Singapore's babe drought intensifies

sniffer says:

Have you secretly moved to Singapore, David, and once there had a series of unfortunate experiences with moneygrubbing local lasses?
I think we should be told...

TANAI KWAI says:

In Singapore many girls chase the "Four C's": Cars, Credit, Cash and Condo.

If you qualify, you might be awarded the privilege of being introduced to the other Four C's: Color, Clarity, Cut, and Carat weight.

But I do love those Singapore Air hotties. God, can they flirt. If they bottled their bathwater I would have a fridge-full.

TK

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

even doing the "one hour transit wait" in airport for rtn flights back to bangers on visa runs is an hour to long spent in that dump.
That place has always attracted complete wonkers types since yr dot.
no wonder the gals are low class below the surface of exterior perfectability.

Thaxo

bob says:

my mate met a SP gal not so hot looking who works in a travel agency .when business is slow in the afternoon she confessed to him that she goes in a back room ,locks the door and masturbates for half an hour till things pick up.

mongallai says:

- The financial centre is full of some seriously attractive women. The only problem is they are looking for extremely heavy wallets and stock or property portfolios.

And of course it's so different in Thailand.
I guess the smiles make it a lot more forgiving

CV says:

"The only problem is they are looking for extremely heavy wallets"

So it's just like ... everywhere else?

Every place I've ever been, women look for, among other things, the guys with fat wallets. It's just the way they're made. Perhaps it's not so noticable to you in places like Cambo where YOU are the guy with the fat wallet?

alanjeen says:

Before dating one for god's sake read the Women's Charter or better still visit the Family Court to see how many men are being sent to prison for not paying maintenance to their wives/former wives.

Grunt says:

I had a Russian guy explain it simply.

The standard of living of a nation is reflected at the edges of the women's mouth's

If the living standard is high, the ends of their mouth's point down.

The the standard of living is low, the edges of their mouth's point up.

Looks like Singapore is suffering from a high standard of living.

brucelee says:

Aren't TGs the same? Asking to build a house in hometown, land, car/truck, cash to send home, sick bull, dowry.....etc.
The main difference is SP gals look for these upfront while TG expects farangs to provide them after they snagged you! For long term relationships, I prefer the former......clear right from the beginning

Dana says:

Hey Grunt

This edge of the mouth barometer thing is brilliant. Something else that I did not think of myself.

Charles Edward Frith says:

I feel compelled to send this post to this chick in Singapore who shouldn't have to defend herself, so I'll let her decide if she wants to respond anonymously or not. She is quite a whizz on Internet trend things, quite a babe in the traditional sense of the word, very Singaporean with respect to SOME of the comments made here, and probably should be listened to be as she is adopted Thai/Chinese. So over to you Miss Singapore. Your chance to tell it like it is.

Grunt says:

Ya Dana and my travels within North America, South America, Asia and Europe show that girls in poorer nations do tend to walk around smiling (a genuine smile, not what my wife calls an "American Smile").

And as another friend noted as he was doing Peacekeeper duty in the former Yugoslavia back in the 90's "The poorer a nation, the more interest the girls have in men".

The theory seems functional, as my foreign wife is 10 years my junion and my friend traded his obsolete American wife for a teenage Serbian beauty.

To the victor go the spoils!

To the American female...go the cats?

Coldweasel Q says:

Having stupidly married a Singaporean woman - seven years of monotonous robotic accents, mechanical sex and mind-numbingly repetitive conversations about Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore's "superiority" over other Asian nations and how Singapore had become "first world" thanks to hard work and "discipline," I can confirm that Singapore is the last place you should look for female company.

The idea of svelte Asian honeys with a decent education and adequate English skills looks great - on paper. (Much like Singapore itself, where the theory is far more attractive than the real thing.) But Singaporeans have taken the worst of all worlds, and created a uniquely charmless national character that is all their own.

The experience of being married to one of the island automatons was so bad that the idea of suicide seriously crossed my mind on literally dozens of occasions.

The day of our divorce - the happiest day of my life so far - coincided with her birthday. To this day, I make sure to send her a big bunch of roses every year on this most auspicious of anniversaries.

Dicer says:

Coldweasel,

That was funny. Sounds something one of Woody Allen's characters would say.... like, "The only time my wife and I had a simultaneous orgasm was when the judge signed the divorce papers."

TANAI KWAI says:

"But Singaporeans have taken the worst of all worlds, and created a uniquely charmless national character that is all their own."

I'd like to nominate Taiwan as a contender for the charmless national character award. (The only place in Asia I would reject in favor of Farangland, including North Korea.)

TK

Sparky says:

I had a friend who was a barman at the China Jump in Singapore. He never had a problem picking up local women and he didn't have a fat wallet. Apparently, more than the average number of Singapore girls are mad for doggy style.

aniyaseo says:

Take it from the horse's mouth. I'm Singaporean and married to a Thai wife. I stopped dating Singapore women some 6 years before I got married, and for good reasons.

The biggest problem with Singapore women is in their deluded mindset. They always think that they are better, and hence deserve better - which is of course light years from the truth on both counts. They're a sorely misguided bunch who expect endless chivalry and pampering, but at the same time they overzealously assert themselves as men's equals, or worse, superiors.

Singapore women like to put down Singapore men who marry foreign Asian women as being intimidated by an equal. That's a laugh. In my 6 years abstinence from Singapore girls, I was dating the perceived superior farang girls before I met my Thai wife. My wife is more feisty and fiercely independent than any Singapore girl I know, and yet she's also one of the most beautiful, sexy and loving women living in Singapore. If there's anyone who's intimidated, its the Singapore women who have lost their feminine charm and edge.

Looper says:

Hi Sparky,
My patter is getting a bit rusty these days.
With Thailand at the back of your mind its hard to muster the will to engage a western woofer in inane banter in the hope of maybe getting some.
In any case, even if I was sharp as a pin and in Singers I'm not sure I'd have the front to work an offer of being done doggy style into my weather beaten array of one liners. Anyway, more power to your mate.

Sparky says:

Hi Looper,

i think his approach was not so sophisticated. As a barman he was quite free to liberally dispense Long Island ice teas and Singapore slings to any cuties sitting alone at the bar on ladies' night, which easily wears down resistance.

Looper says:

I paid S$40 for a pair of gin slings last time I was over there (yes, they saw me coming a mile off). Not all bad news though, it did include a small bowl of peanuts.

I think Sparky's mate is onto a winner. Whilst getting paid to work the bar you slip free pink gins to stranded damsels thereby simultaneously getting them oiled and feeling indebted to you at no cost - and receptive to offers of doggy style servicing - excellent.

seesaw says:

I was in a bar in Singapore last week and I agree the girls do have an attitude problem. I asked one if I could smell her pussy, she said "certainly not". "It must be your feet then" I replied.

Greg says:

I saw a graphic study on the Discovery Channel the other day. A woman will look at a walking stick figure that emulates a mans walk, and say that she thinks this is a walk that a man finds attractive. Wrong. She will guage correctly the walk that other women find attractive. Women can not see what men find attractive.

Men, on the other hand, correctly guage what walk both women and men find attractive.

Power women think that men find power women attractive. They have no idea why we like big eyes and small frames.

freshyip says:

dear all,

i love all your comments becuase all of them have reflected my studies in the field (haha) and also my personal experience. i suppose such issues cannot be avoided unless...well, she personally comes from a wealthy family. and especially women who started working FINALLY realized that it's not just physical attributes of men, but it's the $$$. it's so true that the editor emphasized that "when you're looking to start a family, the last thing you need is a wife who is greedy, materialistic and selfish." i am currently in my early 20s and living @ HK but planning to move to SG in the near future. but i do realize that such issues cannot be avoided...sigh....

if she tries diggin, just try not to let her dig. i guess this is part of the game hahaha..

freshyip

Don says:

Was once in China (Shenzen), not that many ladies, went to this bar/nightclub and alas sitting on the bar counter were some attactive looking women, I did the man thing and went over to say howzit. After the introductions sure enough they asked for a whole bottle of tequila and sure enough they were from Singapore with their as if western accents. When she says she's from singapore ...run don't walk.

tingtawng says:

Singers sounds like Japan - certainly Japan is full of downward-mouthed lasses full of attitude - I married and divorced one. The charade in Japan is that everything is smiley-smiley on the surface - but of course underneath the logic gates are opening and closing and determining the next move. They say Japan is a patriarchal society. Well, they say that about the west too. It's actually a gynocentric society.

I'll give Singers a miss.

pr says:

I've never been to sp or thai, but i know japan. as a twentysomething from the u.s. it rocks. Yeah maybe you hav to be civil to the women, some game, but not much. The women are starved for affection and yes, education and better figures from a varied diet is a plus. For any go under thirty, you can't beat japan.

tracy emin says:

Can't beat Japan?

Like you say, you've never been to Thailand.

clarity says:

I'm a woman and after reading this post I think I know what men like.. women who will shag them, and smile. Even better if they're skinny.

philH says:

clarity, you mean you read this post and only THINK you know?

Johnny says:

Judging by the current crop of Primetime Thai TV soap operas, it looks like Thai girls are headed down the same road. You can see these same shows played the world over, "How to be a nasty bitch without a sense of humour and get away with it". Trouble is that there ain't to many Richard Gere types in real life, so they are really setting false expectations for themselves. Look at the male characters in these shows, how can any man in real life put up with the shit that they do but still tirelessly pursue the female leads ? Totally unrealistic. I often wonder how some of these women (you know who you are)would be judged if they were men instead of women with the same attitude ? In fact I tried that experiment today, I acted like a typically pushy female in posture and expression and the first stranger I saw immediately said "What's wrong ?". Exactly, what's wrong.

Jack Wow says:

I think they're finally catching on!

Dude says:

Wow, Singapore sounds like United States. The women here have become awful. You said:

"Six Bacardi Breezers and a couple of lewd suggestions are usually all it takes."

I currently live in New York City. And that doesn't apply here. If it did, I wouldn't be leaving.

Alan says:

Bad news for all the guys who write in praise and preference of Thai women, the Thai face which we all find so attractive is soon to be a thing of the past, the siamese-cat-like chics are going to be a dying race. The mass media of Thailand appears to be slowly brainwashing a younger generation of impressionable teenagers into a mind-set where they think they have to look european. Just take a look through the articles and ads. in the glossy mags of your Thai lady. Or, if you can bear it, have a look at some of her soap opera DVD`s. Alternatively, if you don`t live in Thailand just watch some of the stars in series and celebrity shows on TGN. What do you see Luuk Krueng, Nothing but luuk Krueng. It`s the same with the pop-shows Hardly a Thai face far and wide. If you do see Thai faces it looks like an advertising show-piece for the Bangkok plastic surgery industry. Nothing against the often very attractive offsprings of Thai-farang marriages but hey! stop promoting them right across the media board as the beauty ideal in film, Fashion, and show bizz. A generation of Thai youngsters are going to conclude there is something wrong with the way they look and want to doctor around with their Thai faces.

Can you imagine anything more awefull than arriving in Bangkok to find the girls all looking like back home?

Dicer says:

Trust a nitwit society like this one to think that there are only two categories - mutant and misfit.

Alan says:

I'm a Singaporean myself and I can't help but agree with everything you've said about the local female populace.

Most of them do have fake accents but they're basically all a bunch of cardboard Californian girls.

Sure, they have the skimpy clothes but what about the orgies and swinging to go along with it? It's just a look for these girls. Most of those girls are prob still virgins.

They're just artificial replications of european girls without- the liberalness and decadence to back up their look.

They're uptight and seriously lack a sense of fun, unlike the lovely Thai women I've come to meet.

Once, I suggested going on a backpacking trip to Amsterdam with a Singaporean women for a major cannabis binge and she freaked out. Typical singaporean: uptight and boring.

I'd personally hate their materialistic nature not because I can't afford it but because they treat it like their goddamn right.

A decent Thai woman(not BG) will never demand for you to buy something expensive for her and even if you did, she'd at the very least be grateful for it and prob sleep with you for the night.

Also, Singaporean women do not see the importance of fair, porcelain skin unlike their Thai counterparts. I appreciate my Thai female friends effort to look presentable with all their skin lightening creams, avoidance of going out in the day etc. so much more now.

Trust me, Singaporean women are frigid and utterly boring.

The exception are those who are truly cosmopolitan and have travelled the world and are open to everything: swinging, pre-maritial sex, synthetic substances and are devout Atheists. Nothing could go wrong with that and you're guaranteed to have loads of fun with them- a rare occurrence with local women here

Otherwise, stay clear of Singaporean women!

TANAI KWAI says:

Dicer writes:

"Trust a nitwit society like this one to think that there are only two categories - mutant and misfit."

As ever, no point to such bombast unless perhaps you're trying to be funny. But you're trying to make a serious point with your broad brush. Just a little too “The Eternal Jew” for my taste.

Alan writes:

“Also, Singaporean women do not see the importance of fair, porcelain skin unlike their Thai counterparts. I appreciate my Thai female friends effort to look presentable with all their skin lightening creams, avoidance of going out in the day etc. so much more now.”

If you could have left this bit out I would have more or less agreed with you. I’d be interested to hear you develop this a bit more. I take it you don’t date a lot of black women or Lao peasants?

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Meanwhile, staying at the Fullerton in Sing with the Ms. and David’s post rings more true than ever. This place is essentially a wasteland in that sense. But the dinner buffet here KICKS ASS. It outdoes the brunch at the J.W. Marriott, which is pretty nice.

Wynne says:

Firstly, i'll have to say that your entry generalises Singaporean women way too much.Have you ever lived in Singapore and truly understood its culture?I guess not.

From what i've read, i came to understand one point. Having enough decency to at least not go around begging for sexual pleasures is considered boring. On the other hand, settling for sex simply because of a few beers - a value and character worth treasuring.

How much less sense can you make?Do explain.

Alan says:

Tanai Kwan:"If you could have left this bit out I would have more or less agreed with you. I’d be interested to hear you develop this a bit more. I take it you don’t date a lot of black women or Lao peasants?"

Oh, I have nothing against dark-coloured women, it's just an Asian thing I suppose, to prefer fair-skinned women.

Personally, I find that there are many attactive black women out there i.e. Naomi Campbell and Tyra Banks. I'm no racist.

But if I were to choose a fellow Asian woman, I'd much rather have a fair-skinned one. Fair skin hints of aristocractic decadence and seperates these women from the peasant working class- granted that notion is outdated but I just prefer fair-skin.

Btw, Singaporean women have terrible skin. Too tanned. Too many zits. Too many fine lines and wrinkles.

It's a bit of an irony actually. In Europe, women with their ivory-white skin have their tanning salons while in Asia, women with their sepia-toned skin have their skin lightening creams.

You'd see why a fair-skinned woman would stand out from the crowd if you live here long enough. It's the exclusivity of it that appeals to me not to mention the aesthetic enhancement that fair skin highlights an Asian woman's bone structure and presents a more youthful appearance.

TANAI KWAI says:

Alan:

"You'd see why a fair-skinned woman would stand out from the crowd if you live here long enough. It's the exclusivity of it that appeals to me not to mention the aesthetic enhancement that fair skin highlights an Asian woman's bone structure and presents a more youthful appearance."

I appreciate your thoughtful candor. You like what you like. I just don't have the same associations since I've known lots of Vietnamese and Chinese gals who have that porcelain skin. I find that a fine-ass lusciously dark Thai woman is also pretty doggone striking. If I haven't learned any better about Asian beauty after 15 years or so I'm afraid I'm not going to get any wiser.

We probably at least agree that one Chinese saying is demonstrably false:

"Whiteness hides ugliness." Sometimes you'd want to do everything possible to obscure that bone structure.

TK

Dicer says:

Alan,

We can all take a long sigh of relief then in knowing your preference for the exclusive kaaaw...take any tart and you can bleach her with one of the several products available in the Tesco whitening aisle.

While we're at it are you partial to sniffing shampoo?

"I’d be interested to hear you develop this a bit more." - Tanai Kwai

chortle.... sounds like that wincing freshman tutor who never changed his pink patterned jumper and had tidbits decorating his beard...

Li says:

A female colleague of mine once remarked that the reason why Singapore men went for China girls was because we couldn't handle the high standards of Singapore women. I had to bite my lip hard (MD was a woman) and not tell her that the only difference between the Singapore girl and her Chinese counterpart was PRICE. The China girls may have been materialistic but they were at least good looking and had the ability to make a decent and educated conversation, which their more educated Singapore counterparts could not.