Singapore girl, you're a great plate of fries

Yu Tinktumut says:

"Unfortunately, dejected Western men can't expect their own governments to follow suit because, despite paying lip service to the free-market, obsolete farang women desperate to hang onto their state-sanctioned monopoly would never allow it."

Funny that your criticisms of Thailand's xenophobia are so eloquent on your site, yet you can't resist a single opportunity to post these kinds of discriminatory comments.

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Hi Yu

Advocating more open borders is neither xenophobic nor discriminatory.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

Regards
David

bangkokram says:

My first trip to Singapore was like a long awaited trip to the cinema. The film you've been dying to see turns out to be no where near as good as the book and you leave disappointed.

Not planning to stay overnight, we were forced through illness to spend a couple of days there. Being Labour Day, there weren't many Hotel rooms left, a Taxi driver took us to a place he knew would have rooms. Seemed to be where all the Ethnic Chinese bought and sold fruit. Also slap bang in the middle of a red Light Area.

I didn't know Singapore let this type of behaviour or carry on, something about being birched for spitting out chewing gum. Coming from Bangkok, it was pretty much home from home. The Ladies seemed to be of two varieties, chubby, white skinned chinese birds who wear dressed in little black dresses and very dark skinned Indian looking girls who seemed to be catering for the Indian migrant worker community. Not really a looker in sight.

The only top looking women were in a Restaurant we had to go in. You guessed it, a Thai Restaurant. Obviously when we leave the shores of Thailand, "Her who must be obeyed" as to have Thai food on a daily basis or my life is hell. The Waitress's were all very lovely and a credit to Thailand.

No wars and and a western diet, you were right David.

Yu Tinktumut says:

True, your overall point about borders isn't... But your attitude towards farang women is.

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Hi Yu

If my portrayal of farang women is in any way inaccurate, please let me know.

Regards
David

Johnny says:

I read in the paper that all the girls at Orchard Towers were arrested a few days ago ?

Paul says:

David, amusing responses to Yu.. I had to laugh.

I've never been to Singapore and despite all my moanings about Thailand, it seems its still a great place to live in comparison to other countries in the region..

Undoubtably, if you want a decent woman in the west you have to import her from somewhere else.

kevin roberts says:

True, the Singapore women don't come close to their Thai sisters, but compared to the pampered, whining fat Canadian slappers that I face everyday, I should be so lucky as to be around the average "Singapore Girl". I'd fly on her anyday.

SPQR_US says:

David,

I might have to stand in defense of Yu if you ever said; all farang women were like harpies or shrews.

As I'm sure you (and Yu) and everyone knows; both harpies and shrews are very lightly built. Shrews are small vicious and insatiable grub eaters.

Harpies while more closely resembling the average farang female have to be slightly enough built to fly around with their leathery wings.

While most farang women have the personality traits of harpies and shrews it is still an unfair comparison I feel.

Prior to the attainment of their full girth many farang females may have a more shrew-like appearance. During this phase they may be briefly slimmer than in their adult (or lumbering phase) and may act like either harpies or shrews are both, depending on their mother's disposition and the availability of Hagan Das.

If only walruses had little bat like wings and the dispositions of male elephant seals during a mating brawl; then we'd have a creature for a more accurate characterization and one that Yu might be more comfortable you associating with western females.

madsci says:

I don't know you guys used to live in the States, but I bounce back between New York and San Fran all the time and American girls are hot. Sure, I find blondes a bit blah, but in the melting pot there is a hell of a lot of sexy. I don't know about you, but all my female friends keep really fit and don't have that sad flat butt thing going on either.

chris says:

what the hell u talking about i would put a singapore women over a thai anyday,hang on thats an intresting thought ,do u think i could pay for that kinda of action in the eden club bangkok.

Alan says:

just took Sing Air from BKK to San Francisco. Business Class the entire way. I saw 4-5 of the most beautiful girls ever. To a point that I thought I should go visit Singapore. Think I'll just stick with what I know.... Thailand

khao san guy says:

Well I had my first trip to Singers last year, and I can confirm some of those gals are pigs with knickers on! Though If you gave me the choice of.. A. English woman or B. Singer girl........ Sorry Brit bitch! it's the singer girl for me:-)

Adam says:

I once described Singapore as comparable to Bournemouth. For anyone who knows Bournemouth, enough said. It is, frankly, a rather boring place, asian without most of the charms of asia.

Orchard Towers is an experience that everyone should try, whether or not you intend to sample the goods. It's exotic, eclectic and quite different from Bangkok.

The mix of nationalities is much greater than in Thailand. You have filipinas, indonesians, vietnames, thai but almost no chinese! A couple of the thai girls I spoke to said they come there for a month (no visa required), work hard then go home to be "good girls". Hmmm....maybe. None of the girls are even a little shy but they do have the good grace to get lost if u say u are not interested.

I very much doubt that the Towers have been raided but the IMF is meeting there shortly so girls from all over Asia have been pouring into the country. Many of the Thais have apparently been refused entry and sent back home. Now why on earth would an IMF meeting lead to an influx of girls? Surely these very worthy dignitaries and their staffs aren't interested in extra-curricular sex. I think the IMF should make it policy to ban their staffs from indulging. Yeah right........instead they will attack the corruption of countries like Thailand.

lulu says:

What a sickening hate-fest !

Without any doubt, men who cannot get past go with desirable women at home.

Richard says:

I live in Singapore and Bangkok, and both have their fair share of stunners.

That little island has some of the best looking girls anywhere on the planet - including a high proportion of the best of both worlds, your half European half Chinese/Indian/Malay. Unsurpassed. They're also extremely well educated and speak exceptional English as a whole.

Can you please explain what you mean by " ...the average Singapore girl can barely fit into her jeans - which might explain why so many choose to become sarong party girls (SPGs)".

Firstly, the phrase hasn't been in wide use since the 80s - and refered to unspeakably beautiful slim girls who tended to gravitate towards expats earning stellar packages, rather than locals. Why would today's Singapore girl who can't fit into her jeans choose to become an SPG? The phrase ceased to exist, the girls stayed the same.

The trademark little black dress or skin tight Levi's, rarely a sarong, is so incredibly irresistable because of the svelte body of the stunning girl inside.

I doubt you saw too many Singaporeans in the Four Floors. Next time you visit, try going to the famous Zouk night club or the KM8 beach club at Sentosa. I'm sure you will change your opinion.

Andy says:

I spent a few months working in Singapore, and the girls as I remember were very good looking indeed. To the chagrin of a lot of Singaporean males however, the financial requirements of dating / marriage to these girls has them flocking to Hat Yai in droves.
Singapore is clean; attractive; organised; etc.
But imho; rather sterile and soulless.

Each to their own

sooo tired says:

Wow, over the mark! Shit in the eyes or what?
1 Singapore Airline is by streets a better one than Thai - service, aircraft, safety, food etc etc.
2 Thai girls sexy? Brown, wide piggy nose, dawky, gawky facial expression, stink and never smile - not to mention 8 out of 10 on the make. Singapore girls are more attractive, usually self-supporting, speak English, have something between their ears and can communicate about more than shite TV programs.
3 Singapore is a clean, well ordered society where everything works and law and order means something. It is also democratic and seems to understand the concept of democracy.

I could got on and on. What is it with this contstant obsession with Thai women? They really are not that special, make crap mothers, hopeless housewives and boring conversationalists. Do all the foreign men in Thailand hate anywhere that isn't populated by bar-girls and whores?

Please explain. No offence intended by the way.

SG democracy says:

to sooo tired:
I want to focus on this abnormal, totally off the hat opinion of "is also democratic and seems to understand the concept of democracy."

Please, I refer you to see this:
http://web.amnesty.org/report2006/
sgp-summary-eng
Amnesty International report on SG. There is democracy for you. Sure, the law in that country upholds peace and order, but also curbs anything else.

And Reporters without Borders:
http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=554
SG on place 140...
'nuf said.

bazza says:

in response to sooo tired, do i take it u were once married to a thai gal if not what do u base your rant on?

Common Sense says:

sooo tired,
I would have to say the world would be a much better place if more countries had higher populations of bar girls and whores such as Thailand. Hell i even find the typical conversation with a bar girl more interesting than with many western women.

For example:

BG: Hello sexy man!!! Where you from?
Me: Nowhere

BG: Ohhhh i like Norway. What your name?
Me: Common Sense

BG: I am sitting with you. What your name?
Me: Bob

BG: Oh i like that name. You want to play game?
Me: Ok

(Three moves later on a game of connect four I'm wallowing in self pity from the ass whooping i just recieved.)

Me: You want to play another game.
BG: What game you want?

Me: Hide the salami!!!!
BG: What game that.

Me: Here's the bar fine I'll go refresh your memory.

(Now a conversation with a western woman. Played by Narin)

Me: Hello
Narin: How are you. Would you mind buying me a drink i'm thirsty.

Me: Sure why not.
Narin: Thanks. So what are you doing here.

Me: Just relaxin.
Narin: Cool I'm just here with my friends. Hey would you mind buying them drinks too.

Me: Can i just pay your bar fine and save me some money.
Narin: What???

Me: Your trying to milk me for money like a whore so you might as well be upfront about it.

(Here's where you hear a slapping sound followed by my laughter for informing her of the ugly truth of her ways.)

No matter how many times I have the same conversation with a BG it always makes me laugh whereas the same conversation with a western woman just makes my blood boil.

Itchy the Killer says:

Anyone notice the massive amounts of "padding" which is built into the bustline of every Singapore Air stewardess' uniform? You think they could get away with that in the west?

Behind the makeup and the padding what you're really drooling over is nothing but a glorified waitress, whom you wouldn't look twice at in any other situation, let alone want to go out with.

Seat Sniffer says:

Some like Thai Girls,
Some like Singaporean Girls,
Some have a crutch stuck up their ass...

To each his own, that's whay I always say.

SPQR_US says:

Common Sense,

You hit the nail on the head.

Sooo Tired,

I mean this respectfully. I don't understand the slam of BG's and Thai ladies frankly. I have a friend who after a couple of trips to LOS began to complain constantly about the lack of conversational english displayed by many of the BG's he was shagging. He just kept complaing about the coversational English thing and it started to annoy me. One day it really made me laugh and he asked me why.

I told him; look you in particular are just coming over here to shag BG's. You sit and drink for hours and sweat profusely in the heat even at night. You have 5 or 10 beers at least before you bar fine "the one" that you've chosen purely for the way her ass looks (which is fine) and proceed negotiate her down because it's low season and you remind her of that. You take her back to your bunglow and then you take a vitamin V and go at it for a while. What inspiring bit of English liturature are you two going to discuss before you start groping for the fun bags?

In the mornings I'd get up and go diving and he'd still be out since he hadn't usually packed it in until 2 or 3am. When I'd get back he was often just stirring and if we met for a bite he'd always try to get the BG to pay for her own. As I had begun to do my best try to understand a few Thai words I could sometimes get the jist of things when she took a call.

Once there was a BG he called "Cat Tail". He said that he needed to get away from "Cat Tail" and avoid the Soi where he'd met her the night before. When I asked him why he called her "Cat Tail" he said it was because she had something wrong with her and didn't talk much, she just kept sounding like an angry cat whose tail you ahd just stepped on. He said she kept walking around in the morning sounding like a sick cat on her cell phone, saying; "Mai ow, Mai ow, mai ow..." I didn't have the heart to tell him for several years what cat tail was saying. I did however tell him two days later when his behavior got him "fired" by a BG over lunch for trying to renegotiate the previous evening's price of admission. She just made a cell phone call stared off into space and walked away empty handed. Not missing a beat he then asked me to help cover her share of the meal price when she walked out on him. I had to explain it to him slow too, like I was dealing with a child...

He is really a nice guy but he just projects what he wants to see on the BGs and then when it goes pear shaped he still looks confused and then goes and tries in on the next one.

I am married to a Thai who is a wonder wife that I can discuss anything with and she gets it or tells me if she doesn't and so do I. If one of us doesn't "get it" we work together on it if it is important to us. If not we move one. She is a great cook and has a good business head. I have done my best to explain the economics in America and she gets it. My Thai is still terrible but I keep working at it. Her English is getting better all the time as her confidence here grows. When I do work outside she shows up and helps me. She likes to shop but knows our budget and is careful with the money.

We just got back from a trip together to Puerto Vallarta. Among the more interesting scenes was the one at the pool. I have to say it was an eye opener. I haven't been down to Mexico for a few years owing to the pull of SEA but thought I'd take her down to see if she liked it. Anyway the pool was amazing as you can imagine people were ther from all over the world. The difference from LOS was staggering (or should I say lumbering). All but maybe 20% of the women were sloppy fat. Not morbidly obese only about 10% of the women were that fat.

Most of the Western women had the kind of fat where they are wearing those low riding hip huggers with the belly roll flopping out and their ass saddle-bags are hanging over the side. My God I thought I was only in the country last 5 years ago and look how it's gone down hill. The local talent outside the hotel was still 50-50 so there's still time to see that. Anyway my little Thai-Lao scampered around the pool not unlike a little shore bird darting over the sleeping hulks of sunbathing elephant seals. It was a site to behold.

All in all there seemed to me to be a change with the younger set. I didn't sense the "worship me, get away from me" vibe that I used to see so much of. The 35-45 year old ladies were there too primarily single oddly enough I didn't sense the negative so much with them either anymore. Apparently all those enough men are getting sick of experiencing their particular form of prostitution. In LOS the cost for sex with a woman ranges from $12-$25 LT. In America it costs you your house, car, job and all assets. Oh yes and the sex isn't as good in America.
It occured to me that maybe they were killers of opportunity and not sensing weakness didn't attack.

Just fo Yu:

I just read a story this morning on the CNN website about this guy: H. Beatty Chadwick. His farang ex-wife filed for divorce 11 years ago after he had amassed a small fortue and the judge and her lawyer had him jailed for 11 years since they can't find the money. The upshot here is that it is the judge and lawyer working together because they like to run these things out to up the fees. Of course if there is no money then they have to eat it. Being that the divorce systems in the west are lopsided and corrupt they kept the guy in jail for 11 years and he's still there. Happily the whore of an ex-wife that he has is peniless and bitter. CNN (Communist News Network) predictably ends their turd of a story with a shot at the husband (victim). Gee why does David portray Farang females the way he does? Well he is just reporting the news not making it. It also isn't that they are Farang I'm sure. It is how they have turned themselves into what they now are. It is a preception that they themselves have earned by being gutter sluts and it will be a generation or better after they choose to change before it gets better. BGs have a morality about them that is better than that of female farangs. BGs descibe women that act like farang females as;"Street Chickens." With a BG you can be reasonably sure of what you're getting and that's that. Female farangs are like a fraudlently labled product. That's why people are so pissed off about it.

Imagine if you bought a new Lexus and paid full sticker price. Once you get it home it doesn't run like they told you it would. It starts leaking fluids, begins smelling funny its responses are slow and it lumbers through traffic squeaking and squealing everytime you get in it.

After a few days you you notice that your neighbors been driving it and got it all scuffed up and spilt all this sticky stuff all over the inside. Finally when the paperwork arrives you find you have no warranty and worse yet while it has Lexus badges when you try to go back to the dealer to complain they tell you; "Yeah sure we lied so what." Angry and in disbelief you return home.

Later that week you receive a legal notice at home from the dealer's attorney admiting that they lied but accusing you of mistreating the product. Your neighbor is now driving your "Lexus" and has stolen your keys from your house while you were out of town working and is now parking in your garage as you find upon your return. He asks you to clean up the house and garage up and mentions that you need to clear out of the whole house anyway. He'd expects you to keep paying the mortgage though.

Later at work (you've had to take a bus) you're served with legal notice. The dealership is suing you to pay for a lifetime of repairs and upkeep for the car even though you've only owned it a few weeks. You seek legal help to try to find a way out. You find a lawyer right away that tells you you have a great case and takes half of your life savings to get things started.

After a few weeks he tells you you need to realize that your case is hopeless and asks for more money. When you refuse to pay he gets the court order to share anything you have remaining after the matter with your neighbor and the "Lexus" is resolved. Later that week while attending a court ordered car care workshop you notice your previous attorney driving your "Lexus" out of the parking lot as you arrive at the workshop in a taxi. Your neighbor is also working with the dealership at this point and has complained to the court that since you left the house where he's been parking the car that it has fallen into disrepair due to all the parties he's been throwing and expects you to pay for it.

In desparation you ask him to just keep the car and sell the house as that could cover all the costs up to this point. At this point you are told by the police at your office that the neighbor wants to keep you car and house. You are to make all the payments and pay for all repairs as long as the car exists. In addition they plan on buying some more cars so you'll need to make arrangements to pay for those as well.

The other thing that I heard a lot around the pool bar was how many men they knew who were marrying Asians from SEA. Why not I said? These ladies were gracious so I was honest with them. Anyway it may be wishful thinking but I think that the corner may be starting to turn on things.

Only a couple of times did some amazon with her tits flopping around give me the attitude at the pool bar, but I made allowances for her. She was young and hadn't attained her full girth yet.

Sadly Lacking Moral Fiber says:

..."I think the IMF should make it policy to ban their staffs from indulging." ...

The United Nations rolled out a global policy last year which prohibits any of its staff, contractors or peace-keepers from having any contact with P4P providers. It is enforcing that policy. The IMF and UN tend to mimic each others rules and polcies so I expect that IMF will indeed ban their staff from indulging.

sniffer says:

Lulu:
I would have thought "sickening hate-fest" best described an average girls' night out in Glasgow . Are you just bitter cos you're getting a bit old for some Boom Bang A Bang?

bangkokram says:

"Sooo tired"

Why do you talk sooo much bollocks you twat?

Please explain. No offence intended by the way.

sooo tired says:

Comments about me wrong on all counts. Never been jilted by a Thai, never been with a bar-girl and opinions based on good old common sense.

So, the western girl is milking you for moolah? Well hello, but what do you think the whore is doing? Do you really think she thinks you're 'wery han-some big boy'? Get real please.

Comparing demorcacy and law and order in Singapore to Thailand is a joke. How many mass graves have been found in Singapore and silenced? How many foreigners are killed by wonderful bargirls and their boyfriends/family in Singapore (the girl of course serves very little sentence because killing dumb foreigners is allowed in Thailand)? How much vote buying do you think goes on in Singapore? This list goes on but gets boring because the loser is Thailand on every count.

Hell, maybe you're right. Maybe it is better to marry a whore rather than simply strike up a relationship with a women, get to know her, and use charm and wit to get into bed. And then you'd probably know her some more and love would come into it and you might get married and have kids and the whole thing would be clean and real and genuine.

But maybe you have it right; pay for sex every time, marry a tart who has bedded how ever many thousands and will continue to do so and will lie to you on an hourly basis. Be exploited by her and her family, have her steal from you and you get to live in her country - WHERE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME!

By the way, why are you all so anti-western women? If the choice is between a well covered, curvaceous bird with a brain from the west or a dumb Isan girl who is bony and straight up and down back and front and looks like a boy, then I'm in the west everytime! Should I assume that you've all been given the boot by western women?

What was the reason for this post anyway? Did the guy who started it get turned down by an SIA air hostess? Seems like an unprovoked attack on a glorious nation of wonderful people. Or is it a case of 'If you want to get noticed, start a fight'.

Common Sense says:

sooo tired,
Actually the whore ends up being cheaper since it is a rare occasion when i actually have to pay anything other than the bar fine. My point is that a naked bar girl in Pattaya usually comes off as less of a gold digging whore than most western women. In Thailand the business end of the deal is covered on the backside and often no mention is made of money until its time for her to head back to her Thai boyfriend the next day. Western women often have no problem with asking for things from the get go. Sizing up your wallet perhaps???? I'm quite notorious for telling women where they can stick their heads if propositioned for drinks or anything else for that matter. If i'm interested in her i will offer to buy in due time.

Oh and I'm not anti-western women. I'll stick my dick in anything with a cute face and a tight ass no matter where i'm at. Theres equal opportunity for all in my pants. I do prefer the personalities of asian/hispanic women though.

As far as using charm and wit to bed women; i do it all the time. I'm just a natural born man whore and despise the whole relationship thing.

Oh and sooo tired, do you really buy into your romanitcized version of falling in love with a western woman and getting the house, kids, white picket fence and living happily ever after. Well pal odds aren't in you favor so i'll probably hear about your case in divorce court one day after walking blindly into a relationship and being stripped of everything and going postal.

You run the chance of being exploited and stolen from by any woman you meet not just a bar girl. Use some COMMON SENSE and open your eyes to the world around you. Sure there are great women out there both in the west or even a BKK bar that you can begin a great relationship with but they are few and far between. Until then i suggest you take my philosophy.

Keep lookin for the right one, but have fun with the wrong ones.

hentaigaijin says:

common sense - you are my hero!

sooo tired says:

Hey, Common Sense. You missed one very important point my friend - I am married! I am happily married! I have great kids (2)! My wife and I love each other very much! She earns more than me and we share everything! AND we've been married for just over 20 years!!! Shit I must be blind like you say.
Each to his own I guess but the 'real' relationship does work and is out there amongst the crap, you just gotta find it!
Happy hunting!

Paul Booth says:

Never been drugged and mugged in Singapore. Nana Plaza...

Mick from Isle of Man says:

This forum makes me laugh sometimes, but not as hard as I do (like most everybody us) when you see a Western man with a Thai women outside of SEA. It is just too comical.

duangping says:

sooo tired,

i do find your lazy steriotyping of thai females as pretty sad especially as you admit to never having any first hand experience or any interaction with a thai female, you state your opinions are based on your common sense, do you often have such strong opinions on stuff you clearly know little or nothing about?

duangping says:

mick from isle of man,
Have never been to the isle of man,and if its true that you and the rest of the island(what the fuck does"like most everybody us" actually mean?)finds a mixed race relationship so funny i doubt i ever will.Is the IOM like the league of gentlemen or something? my thai wife and i never have any problem in London with bigots.Keep laughing mate but i assure you i will be laughing last (and longer).

Mick from Isle of Man says:

Dong ping - every harry, dick, tom, and mary snickers because in the year 2006 when they see an older caucasian male walking down the street with a younger thai women that Charles Masonesque forehead tattoo shines brightly (only it reads): SUCKER/LOSER

Torq says:

Hi Mick,

I am smiling as I write this at your comment about how you think it is funny to see someone married to a Thai outside of SEA.

I often feel the same way when I see a sheep not married to someone from the Isle of Man.

;-)

SPQR_US says:

Hi Mick,

I guess I'm one of those SUCKER/LOSERs according to you. I'm not that much older than my wife though. :-)

Uh I don't feel much like a SUCKER/LOSER. I'm in decent shape have my hair and teeth and have no problem getting laid here in chilly farangland.

I did used to feel like that when I lost close to a million dollars when my ex-wife divorced me and took everything I had. Like most farang females she made me feel like I was a SUCKER/LOSER while I was with her and for years after she'd left me for dead. I haven't heard anything from the cunt in years but the last I heard she was still whining that she didn't fuck me over more.

For years I felt depressed and like I really was a SUCKER/LOSER.

Then I took "Thai Tonic" and I've been feeling "Thai-Tastic!" ever since.

I wish I could bottle the stuff.

Thaihome says:

Good one David. Another humorous article based on half baked, ill informed impression written in witty style that still manages to get in some low shots at western women.
Keep up the good work.
TH

aniyaseo says:

I'm from Singapore married to a stunning Thai wife and can verify that this article speaks the gospel truth. Sure, you'll find some respectable head-turners in this sterile island, but if you're looking for the gorgeous species, you might as well go blind. Bear in mind too that in Singapore, there's a huge population of girls from China, and chances are the exquisite ethnic Chinese you meet here are probably China Chinese anyway. As for the average Singapore chick, while I disagree that they're walrus phat, they're certainly not as shapely as the Thai counterparts.

duangping says:

mick from isle of man,
you obviously like dark skinned/haired woman because you have stated that you reckon its much better to have an italian girlfriend(see micks comments in farang go home)on your arm than a thai because this means joe public wont be laughing at you.whats wrong with you?are you insecure or scared or both?
Why do you claim to be from isle of man and then deny it?
I am still laughing at your illiterate posts and i am sure the rest of mangosauce is too.bye bye scared loser

sooo tired says:

Message to duangping

No experience!!! I've already stated, I've been happily married for twenty years, twenty fucking years and my wife is Thai. How much f'ing experience do I need before I'm allowed to have an opinion in your eyes????
My wife is educated, Chinese/Thai and far from being or ever having been a bar girl.
I've been here a long time and seen thousands of failed relationships and all the crap and misery that goes with bar girl relationships.
And even after twenty years I still maintain that a good western woman is far hornier than any Thai bird. big tits and big hips, the best!
Mick, despite being married to an Asian I know what you mean. We're both still in our forties and young looking. She is, in fact, older than me by a few years. Seeing a seventy year old westerner with some eighteen year old Thai bird hanging off him still gives me the creeps. We're not that scenario so don't give a horse's dick what anyone thinks about us though.
And to SPQR_US. Come on, do you think a Thai bird has never fleeced a guy. Shit, it happens everyday at every level. Bar girls are fucking weak minded idiots over every hour of every day but for some reason the victims are the biggest apologists for this. Odd that.
I suspect the Singaporean is in fact not a Singaporean. Just a hunch.

Mick from Isle of Man says:

SPq whatever, even in farangland, only suckers/losers let their farang ex-wives get anything. ever heard of a good lawyer? cayman island bank accounts? second mortgages? sounds like things havent changed much for you.

Eniac says:

Rumour has it that the Isle of Man's answer to Warren Buffet keeps his own investment portfolio in a jam jar.

Jonno says:

Spot on mate. My bird is Singaporean and she is really tops. I mean look; she is beautiful, fluent English, immaculately dressed and hasn't 1% of the bad attitude that most western women have. I cook for her just about every night, she wakes me up with a a blowjob each morning. Choice.

SPQR_US says:

Things have changed a lot Mick. I can see by the string of spittle dribbling from the corner of your mouth and the turnip truck that you rolled into town with that you aren't from around here, so I'll cut you some slack for talking like a complete Rube.

You can have the best lawyers in the world here and if you are a man you are fucked.

I now have a prenup so now that my asset picture has rebounded nicely there won't be any more difficulties there. As for the Caymens and all that I'd love to hear what sort of experience you have with those.

What they do in the States is simply find for the wife and if you have moved it or hid it they throw you in jail for contempt of court. There is a guy that has been jailed 11 years on the east coast because he claims he lost 2.5 million on an investment and there is a paper trail supporting that. However they keep him in jail because they can. Mick you are not playing with a full deck or you are pretty young.

Sooo Tired,

I think that your point is a good one about Thai girls fleecing. I am in NO way saying that they don't. I am just saying that it is a lot more likely that you know what you are getting with one. Sure there are some good western girls but not many anymore as a % due to the culture. In the west the problem is that we go in with our defenses down for the most part and get nailed. In Thailand unless you are some sort of retard you know how things are laid out, that's all.

faatm says:

good common sense , common sense .Sooo tired is sooo tiring

Daniel says:

Hey Chris...

Weren’t you married to a girl from Singapore who was born in England and resided in Luton.?
Anyway I think the girls from Singapore are pleasent and interesting but a little on the chubby side generally speaking,
{ no offence 'CHRIS' } its just that south east Asian girls IE. Singaporean, Thai, who are born in England become much like their English counterparts 'rude brash arrogant lewd self-appraising and FAT. i.e. no self respect. so really in essence the Farang women are not alone in their plight they too seem to have their south east Asian counterparts.
Just something to add to David’s little rant……………

So 'Mick from the isle of man' you may understand why some foreign men choose to do this, however the zoophiles from the isle of man can do whatever you like. However Mick you seem to contradict yourself as I’m sure that you stated in an earlier post that you live in Thailand and have a Thai girlfriend.

So what’s the story?

Common Sense says:

sooo tired,

I see we can agree on one point. Seeing 70 yo hanging on a 18 yo BG gives me the creeps too, although I bite my tongue and look the other way since it is not my business to judge them. The girl is there by choice and if you don't think so I have seen many BG's turn down an unappealing customer.

Other than that point I think you are full of shit on all fronts. You praise western women but are married to a Thai woman living in Thailand. You also talk down on all Thai women like thier the scourge of the earth.

"Thai girls sexy? Brown, wide piggy nose, dawky, gawky facial expression, stink and never smile - not to mention 8 out of 10 on the make."-sooo tired

With opinions of Thai's like that I wonder how you've managed to last 20 years in a marriage to a Thai woman. Perhaps you only let your opinions be known to total strangers on the net. Or possibly you have found the perfect recipe for a succesful relationship in Thailand. Marry a well off Thai woman who makes more money than you do so she is afraid to divorce your pathetic bigoting ass because she wants to save face and not be known as the only Thai woman in history to be fleeced by a western man. Oh the shame she would have to deal with. Family would probably disown her I bet.

Why are you here defending Singapore anyways as I can see no ties between you and that country in your posts. Did you shag a flight attendant on a trip there once and now feel obliged to defend the country because it was the best piece of ass you ever had?

I too find it hard to believe you've lived in Thailand for 20 years and have not partaken in the flesh trade. Temptations are just to great and I've seen it break the holiest and most devoted of husbands.

Oh well you can be whoever you want to be here on the net. I just have one more question though. Is either of your 2 kids a daughter and if so how old is she??????

Timothy says:

Of course maybe the situation is that because the Singapore economy is doing so well, and education levels are so high, local women don't need to work as glorified waitresses in silly dresses, or to get cash tips for fellating flabby, malodorous telecom engineers from Dunstable whose wives have left them.

So they fly in Thai and Malaysian girls who aren't as rich or clever.

sooo tired says:

Common Sense, so your true perverted tendencies are revealed at last, your interest in my children is quite disturbing. No surprise to me.
You're very hostile to an opinion that differs to yours. Could you really be totally ashamed that your sad little life revolves around paying desperate farm girls to jump into your bed because no one else will? Are you really disgusted with yourself for having nothing better to do than defend yourself and your grubby little lifestyle on this board? Is this the only place you are a big man? I sense little man in big hat syndrome here.
By the way, did you know there was a coup today in this country? Or were you too busy paying to suck creampie from one of your 'ladies'?
My reason for defending Singapore is simply that I'm pissed off with hearing whoremongers in Thailand bleat on about how any country that doesn't have go-go bars is shit. Singapore is just a nice well run country where tanks haven't rumbled along the streets for quite some time, because they haven't needed to. How about live and let live, each to his own and all that?
I love my wife and I'm proud of who she is. That said I've never felt attracted to any other Thai woman, simple. I'm 100% for western women but fell in love with a Thai, can't help that. Just because my wife is Thai doesn't mean I have to spend my time bitching about women from other countries. That would be plain dumb and childish.
As for you not believing that someone can live here for twenty years and not pay for sex, that's just crap. I wouldn't pay for sex at home so why pay here? If I wanted to fuck around I wouldn't have got married.
Open your eyes and be honest and you'll see everything I've said is true. Chances are you've been fleeced a dozen times here but you'll still defend them to the very end and then blame someone else.
Can't be bothered to continue. I was told this was a good site with intersting debate and some wit but with nonce comments from common sense I think it is time to leave the keyboard.
Mick, keep up the good work. Baiting people with no sense of humour who take themselves seriously is enormously entertaining.
Goodnight all!

Common Sense says:

soo tired,

I never once denied being a pervert and will proudly wear that title. So thank you for your kind words. Don't kid yourself though, I'm not a sick bastard looking for a kiddy fuck. I asked how old you kids were to be sure of legal age. Since your in your mid 40's and been married for 20+ years, it would not be an unreasonable assumption to think you may have an of age daughter. Since your on the recieving end of the joke I doubt you find it funny but I know others did.

No I don't suffer from big man syndrome or any other psychobabble bullshit you may conjur up. You just irked me with your stereotypical views of Thai women and the men who fuck them. Well I'm not the fat balding 40 yo expat shaggging bar girls day and night because I can't get laid in my own country that you think I am. I'm 25, a U.S. Marine, live in Japan because uncle sam told me too, and have no problem getting women who aren't whores in any country. I ended up in Thailand working a few times and took a vacation there too because it's a nice place to go for a little fuck fest without any of the normal bullshit you have to deal with when hunting for a new piece of ass. I simply use Thai women for recreation while working or vacationing in the area. Me getting fleeced. HAHAHAHA!!! Not in this life.

You stated that if you wanted to fuck around you wouldn't have got married. Well I'm not married and I want to fuck around. It's the life I choose to live and I'll defend my lifestyle choices against morally crusading cunts such as you. That's where the hostility comes from. I'm young, have a high sex drive, low morals, and I'm damned proud of it.

Your excuse for defending Singapore seems misguided too. David's articlle wasn't about Singapore being shit for not having go-go bars. The article was about his surprise at the lack of quality looking women in the country. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and that is his opinion. I've never been there so could care less to put my opinion on the subject until I've had the opportunity to judge it for myself.

If you want to have an interesting debate with some wit try coming off as less of a stereotyping hypocritcal cunt talking down on those who do not share your moral views or taste in women. Let the men here enjoy their lifesytle and you do the same with yours.

For the rest of you guys here, don't be bothered by the morality circus ringmastered by sooo tired. Enjoy life to the fullest and dip your wicks in whatever beautiful tart you choose.

sooo tired (of bullshit) says:

Common sense, oh dear. What a rant and such wonderful use of the English language. I think I clearly have more respect for the women of this country, when you come out with things like "I just use Thai girls for recreation". What a boy you are! Ya mama must be proud!

I'm curious, are all young male Americans in the marines? It's just that every one under 30 comes out with this crap. Must be one big mother of a regiment!! If you are they must be proud of having you on board my friend, just the reputation dear old uncle sam wants to push on the world I suppose. Let me guess, you can take the top off a bottle with your teeth too, right?

You'll find it hard to grasp this but not everyone who gets married has to knock out kids straight away. We waited ten years. So my kids are niether legal age nor female. No surprise you're a nonce, that's quite common for US soldiers in Japan, isn't it?

You'll notice that I haven't resorted to your kind of language, now that I know you're just a kid. I guess you're away from home for the first time, bless. When you grow up, with your big hard man marine sex drive (this is all starting to sound homo-erotic actually) you might find a woman who will let you near her without charging for it. Then you'll experience eating a woman who doesn't taste of Jap businessman's jizz.

Anyway, I'll let you get back to the gym and work up a sweat with the boys and compete to see who can piss furthest. Just good straight manly fun of course.

Common sense (yeah, right), I think it is you who doesn't know when the joke is on you. You're the one getting nasty and bitchy. I have no bad feelings towards you and find this all very jolly and amusing.

I'm back stateside next week, so if you have an OLDER sister who would like to take it like a man pass on her details and I'll give her one from you and the boys in green.

Take it easy friend and don't take things too seriously.

Combover says:

Why does 40 seem to be the benchmark for fat & balding?!

I'm 40, and whilst I cannot deny a few grey hairs & early male pattern baldness, I'm in good shape and have no problems getting a shag with regular girls.

It's the baggage that comes with those shags that makes me wish to partake of bar girls. And their little hard bodies of course.

40 is the new 30!!

Common Sense says:

Combover,

No offense meant to anyone by my statement earlier. I was just putting into words the stereotype the Mr. sooo tired had of me and many others here on this site.

sooo tired,

No not every American under 30 is in the Marines although many of the ones you meet in Thailand probably are (or in the navy) since we make several deployments there every year. But yeah i can open a beer with my teeth if necessary. Comes in handy when lacking a bottle opener. If you can manage to take a break from coming up with your homo-erotic lines i would gladly engage in a pissing contest with you for some good manly fun. Oh wait i change my mind. I don't think i would feel comfortable whipping my cock out around someone who's testing the waters with those homo lines.

“The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!”-Eleanor Roosevelt

I don't know where you got this impression of Marines being innocent little choir boys. As you can see form the above quote we've been known quite some time for our perverted, foul mouthed, and unruly ways.

I still want to know exactly what your point is with all this though. you talk down on those who have relationships with BG's and those who use them for simple recreation. Is there a happy medium you find acceptable or do you believe we should all encase our dicks in glass with a sign reading "Break Glass Only for Breeding"

Since your thick dense skull still hasn't given way to this although I've said it several times i will repeat it once more. I CAN AND OFTEN DO GET LAID FREE OF CHARGE. Even by whores in Thailand. It's going to take a lot more than what you've got so far to get under my skin since you've yet to come up with a single view beyond the typical stereotype that you must tell yourself to convince you of your rightousness.

Well I'm off to the gym to release some testosterone.

Andy says:

40 y.o. is when people start telling you that "life begins at 40" and other patronising crap that hints you're past it; over the hill; etc.

I don't feel any different to when I was 39, apart from a compulsion to part-ex the pickup for a Maserati; surround myself with giggling young nubiles; and try to fit into tighter pants than usual.Is there a problem?

duangping says:

MY NAME IS GENERAL SOOO TIRED and i have now taken over mango sauce,David has been ousted and has been sent to Pattaya.
You are now all under morality rule and i have decreed a new constitution which is as follows;
1/All bar girls,go go girls, freelancers and massage girls you will be stripped of your slutty clothes and marched from the city.Its year zero and you will be sent back to work the land and live in abstract poverty.
2/All farangs men will be prevented from any relationship with any thai female.(exemption to this rule will be where the thai female is university educated and the couple marry within days of meeting)
3/All farang men who persist in their whoreing ways will be sent to our re education camp (an ex sheep farm on the isle of man)and will be under the command of colonal Mick and his 1000 strong army of bulky female stormtroopers.
4/During re education you will be taught how to love big western females again and will attend workshops with titles like "foreplay and bingo wings" and "big pussies can be sexy".
5/any farang male who fails the re-education programme will have sucker/loser tattooed on his forehead and banned from having a sex life.
6/All farang males over 65 will only be allowed relationships with fellow pensioners once re-education is complete.
7/when returning to the kingdom of thailand all farang men will have to pass the arousal test run by our special elite force of nubile agents (ex dancers from rainbow 1 and 2)this test will consist of several shows,shower show,lesbian show,stap on and dildo show carried out at camp nana.Any sign of arousal (even a slight semi)will result in immediate expulsion.

Your glorious leaders

General Sooo tired and colonal mick IOM

duangping says:

common sense,

100% behind you on this one (homo erotic pun not intended)
I think Sooo tired lost all credibilty after completely slating thai females then claiming to be married to a thai.How dumb is that?
I also find it difficult to believe that he has lived here 20+ years and never been tempted?I am actually starting to believe that sooo tired is really female and is just on a wind up.

john says:

The reason why so many guys on here are pro Thai ladies is.. dum da da dum....It's mango sauce....all about Thailand etc. Just for those who hadn't realised that! As for the likes of lulu and her sickening hate fest comment....how can you take someone serious who's named after two toilets Lulu! go back home and drink your whisky alone, and remember how redundant you are, nobobdy wants you and your kind so sit and wallow in your whisky, hey maybe someone could give you a sypathy shag lol As for the charming Thai ladies more more pls and the singer girl, sorry love time to clean up your act babe if ya wanna get into my bed.

Common Sense says:

Duangping,
Ive been thinking the same thing about sooo tired myself. Only woman would suggest we stop all use of our cocks unless married and then shun any suggestion of manly behavior. God forbid men act like men instead of some metrosexual from queer eye for the straight guy. Hopefully he or shes not behind this coup or the country will likely end up like your example from Gen sooo tired.

Well im off to spend the rest of my day shagging this Japanese nurse i met last night. I hope she dont charge me at the end of the day but who knows she may be trying to escape poverty also.

Sooo tired says:

Be careful, you're in danger of getting funny. Some amusing posts have arrived and duangping has shown signs of great wit. Nice to see common "shoot'em up" sense is still tapping those keys too.

Still, a shame you two can't accept a different lifestyle from your own, or understand when you're having you little winkies pulled.

I hope you two aren't thinking of any governmental finance related position. New mantra for the world's poverty stricken - anyone poor should become a whore. Maybe you should drop Bill and Miranda Gates or Bono a line and tell them that the answer they are looking for is prostitution. All those poor families need to whore their daughters.

I feel so selfish for not having boned a whore. Now you've educated me I realise that I've been depriving the world's poor by not fully exploiting their situation. Cheers guys.

Common sense, you missed the point about the homo-erotic thing. You'll get it when you grow up. I hadn't realised by the way, that to be a good soldier you have to swear a lot, fuck whores, and try and be maaaaachoooo (kind a like the Village People I guess) along with having zilch compassion. I'm starting to see why a bunch of rice farmers whipped uncle sam's butt now.

And you two, don't worry, I'm not one of those nasty western women that you're so afraid of and who make you feel so insecure. Just a guy enjoying some banter.

Until next time.

bangkokram says:

Sooo Tired, enough of the the new man shit!

I'm going to puke...

Common Sense says:

sooo tired,

"Anyone poor become a whore" I like this one its kind of catchy. Although you must be an idiot to suggest this as a means to rid the world of poverty. The ugly people will still be left poor. Who would fuck them.

I believe its you who cannot accept a different lifestyle than your own. I have no problem with your lifestyle other its just not for me. Your the one who finds it necessary to come on a website full of expats and start preaching about our immoral ways. I doubt many of us here would take the time to visit a christian website and preach the wonders of prostitution. Hell we'd be banned in a heartbeat if we did. here at mangosauce your allowed to give your view whether popular or not and typically recieve unedited feedback for or against it. It takes a lot for good old David to censor something. Don't get your panties in a bunch because we haven't converted to your lifestyle yet, and you must be naive to think your comments would pass without catching some hell. Oh and don't think your all clever pulling our winkies and what not because your not. I'm enjoying fucking with you just as much as you are.

I didn't miss you homo erotic thing I just spun it around back at you. Or were you to busy gloating to realise that. Just let me know if theres something else you don't understand and I'll be sure to break it down Sesame Street style for you.

Grow some manhood too while your at it.

Robert says:

nothing to do for Andy just giggling young nubiles......only things make him happy haha

Hobgoblin says:

Common sense--- Atta Boy !!! Thanks for preaching the truth man.