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May 9 2004

Thai hooker email puzzle

Thai hooker email puzzle

After enjoying a Thai adventure with a little CM2 minx, a friend of Combover's recently received this surprise email from a farang that he'd never met. Is the guy a Good Samaritan or could he be working some kind of angle?

This really is none of my business, nor do I want to rain on your parade, but I was in an internet shop in Bangkok a couple of days ago, sitting next to these 2 girls, one very cute with fairly short hair, (like a page boy hair cut, wearing a chain around her waist).

Anyway, I speak Thai, and was busy working, but couldn't help overhear the 2 of them talking about a guy she had done recently, and she was going to ask him for money, and tell him she wanted to go to school for manicure etc. The cute one doesn't read or write English, so the other one was typing for her. I have heard all these stories before, all these girls hope to find a handful of men to tell their sob stories to.

She will never go to manicure school, she will never learn to be a hairdresser, and her father's water buffalo is not sick, in need of medical attention. It pisses me off, the lies they tell, so I peeked, and wrote down your email address.

She was telling her friend she had already mentioned to you something about a friend losing 10,000 baht, and now she was going to hit you up for some cash.

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The way they were talking, I found out she goes to Beergarden on Soi 7, every day, to pick up a guy for the night, then on to Novotel, if she has not been successful. She told her friend she had hung out with you at Novotel a few days prior, and you guys had spent a couple of days together. It is amazing what one can find out about these girls when one speaks their language, and they don't know it.

DO NOT give these girls any money, I don't know how many times you have been to Thailand, if it is your first time, but these girls prey on guys like this all the time.

Cut her loose, let her go, burn her email address, there are a million of them. This is a business to them, getting guys to send money without having to do anything other than write a few tearful "I miss you" mails.

Again, it's none of my business, sorry to burst your bubble, just trying to look after another monger. If I were about to do the same thing you are about to do, I would welcome this message. Or you can ignore it, up to you.

Good luck

Quite often, a jealous farang boyfriend breaks into his Thai hooker girlfriend's hotmail account and sends spiteful messages to all her other guys. The emails aren't normally as convincing as this one, though, so it could be genuine.

[Posted to Relationships by David]

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Readers' comments

stu_$ says:

alas, i now this scenario all too well, but...
in my case it reads a little differently,
i managed to find out her password so i was able to access her online diary of antics from another country but even armed with hard evidence of her boom boom shenanigans , these girls still show a poker face and play it like
former president of usa bill clinton did ...
DENY,DENY,DENY...
to anyone who is the situation of sending money to his teerak ,i say be very careful,
no...f@#k that ,even better than being careful,
do a google on "crack yahoo password"
and you will find a bunch of guys who can get you into her other "inbox" for a small fee
(usually $100 usd)
which makes for nail biting reading (i know)
armed with this info ,i say you cant go wrong

remember, worrying is like a rocking chair
it gives you something to do
but it doesnt get you anywhere !

chock dee

Tatoosh says:

Not so unusual. There seems to be various attitudes about it by various punters. Some like to assist in the fleecing of newbies, others take it as an affront and send a warning off if they can. It is a point of continuing debate in the mongering crowd.

Whether it is valid or not should be a simple matter for you to discern. Does someone you spent time with in Thailand ask you for money? Yes|No?

If no one asks for money, then obviously it is bogus. If someone does ask for money, then it may well be genuine.

TANAI KWAI says:

"Quite often, a jealous farang boyfriend breaks into his Thai hooker girlfriend's hotmail account and sends spiteful messages to all her other guys."

I received one such message a couple of years ago when some marriage-minded boyfriend or other caught on that his "fiance" wore a fin on her back.

The groom-to-be suggested we meet over a friendly drink to arrange a "schedule" so that we wouldn't interrupt one another's playtime. I neither responded to him, nor to the half-dozen of his friends who also e-mailed me. (Unlike here, where I seem to respond to any retromingent* with access to a keyboard and at least one finger).

Come to find out the rankled gentleman had later hired someone to track me down (a "Stickman" type, I imagine), also presumably to congratulate me in person on my good taste. I would have been easy prey, even for the laziest P.I., since I had been at the J.W. for about three months straight. Fortunately, I was on an extended trip to the Pearl River Delta by then so I guess it wasn't meant to be.

Hope springs eternal, however, for a glamorous death in Bangkok -- perhaps in a hail of bullets sprayed from a shiny new moped. That would be better than dying of old age at a desk in Farangland.

(winky)

*(Flowery word of the day) retromingent: an animal that discharges its urine backwards.

Richard says:

I had an interesting variant of this last year when my TGF best friend phoned me. She and the other girls had got together and decided that as I had a good heart I was not to be a "buffalo". As proof of my TGF wandering ways she gave me my girlfriends hotmail password and also her own. Her inbox was crammed full of love emails from assorted Scandinavians but the one she told me to look for was from a fellow Brit. This email was along the lines of Dear Lat its Steve I am arriving soon please let Aom know, I am sending this email to you Incas Richard has her password"

Well now I had everyones password.

TGF went bananas trying to establish who the grass was. Steve I understand was less than pleased as I had stopped the standing order and Aom was therefore skint as was he. I got various reports from mates that Aom and Lat "make big boxing" and an English mate called to say that his wife had told him that young Steve was heading back to Falang land after Aom got the idea ( from me ) that Steve told me all. It seems Aom went for him with a razor whilst ejecting him.

A previous poster recommended hiring someone to crack the password. This in my view is completely unnecessary. Lats password was ( and as I just checked ) still is 55555555 Aoms was and still is 12345678. There seems to be little variation, eight characters long something simple, trial and error will get you most Thai girls passwords.

Richard

isthisok says:

I have been guilty of breaking into a Thai girl's email box and reading the umpteen emails from unknowing/trusting Scandanavians, Yanks, Germans, Italians, Australians and Brits. I also sent an email (from her address) to one of the guys (the one who was being asked for money), with the password to the account, although we all know the damage that Thai girls can cause is not only monetary. I only hope that the guy took my advice, looked at the hotmail account and woke up...

sniff says:

You sad bugger Richard. You sure showed her. Never mind that they were laughing at you while they spent your cash. Yep, finding out makes you much less of a dupe. My thai girlfriend, thats like me saying that taxi driving up the street is my car. get a grip

rob says:

Im new to this t.g thing,split up with farang gf last year,went for a fortnight in pattaya with friend we both had a great time,i met kuk lovely girl well women(31)kept in touchin farang land,no e.mail kuk not know how but phone 3-4 times a week,I then went back to meet her in pattaya she say she not work since I leave last time and could i give her 2000 baht for her part of rent for room,no problem.
We had a great 2 weeks visited her family in sukhothai I bought a load of of beer and thai whiskey and what seemed like the hole village had a party
language barrier but good fun,now back in england I really do miss kuk she is now living with her family but has 2 daughters and a 21 yr old sister to take care of + ma & pa,I have agreed to send her 22000 baht a month,is this enough of course she says not and could afford more,but after reading a few stories on this site dont want to be taken for a mug?Iwould like to build something longterm with kuk but when she asks for 5000 to fix car just after ive sent 22k what do I do,her family are poor but very nice people and sister is 21 and still go to school,she has a brother in bangkok who works factory,do you think im bieng milked?

seedless says:

Yes, rob. I think you are being milked.

22000 bahts is about £300. Would you give a UK girl a £300 per month allowance after you'd only known her for 2 weeks?

Some of these girls have multiple guys sending them money every month and are living pop star lifestyles. Most of them have thai husbands who sit around all day and do fuck all apart from drink your money away.

Do you really want to send £300 a month just to keep the lazy deadbeat who is shagging kuk every night in songsam, yaba and singha?

This can only end in tears. Every week there are guys falling from high rise balconies in Pattaya, penniless after their sweet, innocent tirak milked them for every penny.

Paddy O'Ffialle says:

Rob

Seedless is right. It doesn't take B22K a month to live in Sukothai.

If you are an unskilled worker you are lucky to get B5-6K a month, e.g. as a building labourer or a factory worker. You are sending her what an entire working family would be bringing home.

As a reality check, why don't you ask her what her brother, the factory worker, gets paid?

As for the extras, she's really taking the piss.

P. O'F

Paddy O'Ffialle says:

Also (I forgot to add this), what makes you sure she is back with her family in Sukothai rather than back in Pattaya (or wherever) still on the game?

James says:

I have to ask you all for advice. I have meet a beautiful thaigirl in thailand 4 weeks ago. I meet her in Patong and i think that she is working as a "bar girl". We are talking with each other all the time and i'm starting to get feelings for her. She asked me for money, because she was sick and had to go to the doctor. I said no!

Since that time she is never asking me about money again but she is always saying that she miss me a lot, she is crying in the phone about, i'm not with her. She has been talking in the phone with some of my family about that she loves me!

I "think" i am one of the "stupied" guys that she is playing a game with but i'm not sure.

I have read so many things about bargirls in this forum and it's making me so confused because i want to be really sure before i can take another step further or back.

Please give me some advice, please!

Common Sense says:

James,
I think David has since deleted his previous vacation message, but his standing advice still applies in your situation.

Of course she's a con-artist whore, you love sick fool.

Old Wanderer says:

Sukothai: Boy does that bring back memories. 12 years ago I was in Pataya, where I met a Sukothai girl....Boy she could spin a good story....Well I built a Thai house above Sukothai, and was there for 10 days ever few months.
One day I was looking for something and Ubon was gone (as usual lately). There was a bill for the cell phone pushed way back in a drawer...7 call to England, 4 to Germany, 1 to me in the USA.
I called and found out both were engaged to Ubon, and were sending money to pay for my house.
I wished them both luck and hoped they got what they were paying for.

I went into the pantry and got a 20 liter can of cooking oil and pored it over my teak floors, gathered a few of my favorite cloths and lit a match.

Absolute best thing I could have done. I had all the good memories that were possible and none of the bad parts that could have come in the future.

steve says:

I found the password to my girlfriend’s messenger service and just out of curiosity I signed in to find 1 guy from Italy named Giro online wanting to speak to her, so naturally I pretended to be her. I didn’t find out much as I didn’t want to give the game away but he was full of pleasantries for my girlfriend and said he could not wait to meet her, afterwards I wondered what would happen if I pretended to join dating agencies as my girlfriend, just to see what kind of reaction Thai women have over the web with men from abroad.
So I opened up a new hotmail account and an msn messenger in her name but known only to me to see what would happen as now I was curious.
Well I was surprised to find that many men after brief chats were telling her or me all sorts of things and some even wanted to get it on through the web-cam.
What surprised me even more that some men were willing to pay for tickets for her/me to travel to their destinations when they arrived in Thailand? So of course I thought if they were willing to do that what else could I get.
It surprised me even more that although only small amounts such as 2000 or 4000 baht, they would send it to help with rent or shopping etc. So this went on for about 6 months amassing 80000 baht from different men on different sites, you also had to get the money quickly after establishing a rapport because if you keep denying web-cam then they obviously get suspicious however having a letter sent from you to them and vice versa reinforces the amount of time you can get away with not having a web cam.
This is not an infallible system I think I was a good talker, told them what they wanted to hear agreed with them on many things but more importantly you must have access to the web and also use the web a fair amount. You can get on with what you are working on etc as well as having these guys in the background.

So here is how it was done…………………..

1. Know your girlfriend very well I suggest going out time at least 6 months.
2. Open your girlfriend a new hotmail account and an msn messenger account.
3. Put your girlfriends previous pictures from a few years ago on various dating sites, fill out the form making sure you place the area you are in Thailand clearly so it can be seen by all members then leave it for a few weeks. I.e. most men who are going to Thailand usually look for a girl over the web in the area which they will be.
4. Come back and check all your messages and reply to the most suitable.
5. Get online and know what you can say when asked questions, KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT this is why I say its good to know your girlfriend because you can mix lies with half truths.
6. For example, try and tell them something about the part of Thailand you are in or that they may know, Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, etc.
7 Know your girlfriends bank account details.
8. Have an address where u can pick up mail near your area which is the same as the dating forms. I.e. Bangkok, Pattaya.
9. Never have a web-cam….obviously.
10. Ask them when they are coming and say you will meet them, if they
are not coming to Thailand within 2 months forget it, it won’t work.
11. Even give them a hotel contact which is near your area.
12. Before they come ask them for money for something until they get there, this doesn’t work always of course but the law of averages states the more you ask the more likely you are to receive.
13. Once they send money keep in contact and when they arrive in Thailand leave the site.
14. Most guys are too embarrassed to say anything but really what can they do.
15. Even if a guy does go to the police, if the money was sent voluntarily there is not much they can do about it.
16. If your girlfriend asks about the money say your friend sent it or something to that effect, I actually told my girlfriend it was from friends of friends who needed it quickly and my account here in Thailand had closed but she believed it.

I didn’t plan to do this it just kind of happened but I have to say I learned some very interesting things and some things I was told I still cannot believe.

Chock Dee……………

joe says:

Does anyone know if Thai girls' hotmail passwords are in English or Thai alphabet?
Or can they choose? And does anyone know a hotmail password hacking service in Thailand they can recommmend? I'm assuming guessing the password will be difficult because it could be anything but do they tend to use alphabetical letters only, or numbers only, or a mixture of letters and numbers? Are the most common pw's parts of addresses, birthdays, phone numbers, etc and once again do they have to type the password in Thai letters or use the English alphabet?

AFR says:

Joe, subject to anybody correcting me here, I don't think they can use thai characters for their passwords. In any case, in my experience, Thai chicks aren't that sophisticated. Its most likely their birthday or something similar. A word of advice however, do you REALLY want to hack her email. Everytime i've done something like that I've regretted it. Ignorance is bliss. Just enjoy.

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