Chav thug attacks Chiang Mai pensioner

Andy says:

Nice work, David. *politely applauds*

Just hope it doesn't stop Mr Wonderful posting here. Most of his efforts don't really need a punchline anyway.
Youth (and irony) is wasted on the young.

AChav says:

I can see now how people would want to watch out for complete lunatics like this. They are a danger to themselves and those around them. I am in fact guilty of many of the crimes mentioned here so I hold my hands up. Maybe there are a few people like this, but not too many thankfully. Sometimes guilt and paranoia manifest themselves together

SeatSniffer says:

Your typical puss-ball, picks his victims very carefully...

meister says:

"Many bar girls prefer elderly men because"

Do they really? I'd like to say I haven't spend enough time to Go-Go / beer bars to know but in my experience they flock over to younger guys (leaving the fat ones with stretch marks for the coffin dodgers).

"they're kinder" - I'm as kind as you'll find.

"non-violent" - I'm as non-violent as you'll find.

"they don't want sex" - Buggar, you got me there!

Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah says:

Only have to take a walk down Khao San Road to see hundreds of these types - parading around with their pigeon chests.

I really got a kick out of going down there in my suit after work and picking something up in front of those self appointed human rights observers. Always make sure of a public grope in front of them, that really stirs 'em!

paddy says:

can somone explain to a young dumb aussie what a chav is please? sorry about the stupid question

kris says:

so i'm from UK now ? i'm really not.
and i'm from the upper echelons of society, both my parents being psychiatrists. and your poor laymans attempt at some kind of analysis of me is rather futile. but really, is there noone that can see my actions as atleast understandable given the setting and the fact that he egged me on ? if there isn't i'll retreat to my hole and just be an observer from now on. and btw, as i said in the other thread, i have never perused the ladies of the night. i will however try out eden next time im in bkk. no knight in shining armor and blablabla i posted it in the other thread.

BkkRumour says:

A "chav" is a Burberry wearing un-educated English oik chancer. This variety of amoeba is usually English and may well spell his name "Kris" with a "K" and "arse" as "ass" - he would probably like to be called
K-Dogg by his friends except his name's really Derek. Chavs are indeed the scum of the earth (they originated in Chatham, Kent) however the phenomenon is now global and the term is often applied to anyone of the lower life form species:

some Chav preferences:
McDonalds.
Burberry clothing or copies thereof.
Man Earrings.
Petty theft.
Mis-spelt Kanji tattoos.
Replete lack of understanding of anyone else's point of view.

the female variety of the species is just as bad.
-How can you tell when a girl-Chav has an orgasm?
-She drops her chips.

Kris/Derek: stay in whichever Chatham/Detroit/Marseilles slum you came from, and stay off the drugs.

All others: Peace,cold beers and a nice pleasant weekend.

BkkRumour
p.s. Kris you dickhead, get some therapy.

Jaques says:

Kris, it just seems a bit rash and impulsive to beat up an old man just becuase he is chatting to/touching up a much younger woman. A lot of these women look under 18, but are actually well in their early 20s. If you really cared and felt that this particular woman was underage then this was something that you might have been able to report to an NGO that deals with underage sex or something like that. Beating elderly people (or anyone) up doesn't really solve anything. As for being "egged on", well, that's really no excuse...
Anyway you said it yourself, if you'd been having a "good day" you wouldn't have done anything, but because you were having a frustrating day you took it out on this guy.

Andy says:

Your parents are both "psychiatrists?"
Are you their son or a "work in progress" or cause celebre?
Whatever, I see a Nobel Prize between your ears.

bangkokram says:

Paddy,
I'm honestly not sure where the saying "Chav" comes from. Some say its a slang description of a Gypsy and from there, rightly or not comes a trouble maker.

Gangs of youths in their late teens, early twenties hanging about waiting for their dole cheque, trying to avoid work and causing a maximum amount of grief for normal hard working Citizens.

The dress code is whats sets these youths apart. Burberry, Ellesse, Von Dutch, and FCUK are the designs of choice. Sadly they are always Fake.

They like small family hatchbacks as cars that can stick on hideous bumpers and very large exhaust tail pipes.

The girls that follow them around are the classic stereo-type English Lass, Fat, Dyed Blonde hair scrapped back with lashing of grease, similar clothes and no self respect. Sorry missed out the three kids with three blokes before they become 18.

Sadly all of the above is a very, very common sight in the UK, and more sadly is the wish of many younger people to emulate them. I believe Chav's were my reason No. 42 for moving from the UK to the LOS.

Sceptical says:

Paddy, chav is a UK word that means the same as thug or hooligan.

If Kris the caped crusader's story was actually true that is what he would be.

The most interesting part of this whole sorry tale is that Kris thinks these punters are exploiting the bar girls but at no point does he criticise the mamasan, who is living off immoral earnings and basically pimping these girls out.

Rei Dallas says:

Kris,

All I ask is, please pick your targets more carefully. I suggesting either going after people wearing "World Vision" t-shirts, or that "man in black" dude, in the other Mango Sauce thread. Have at it.

reidallas

meister says:

Apologies for the terrible spelling above. Was boss dodging!

Paddy see http://www.chavscum.co.uk/

Mr Thaky, from bangkokchat.org says:

easy on the Brit slagging off Davo.

or you might get mistaken for that Sticky wonker.

Thako.

Rene says:

Kris,
you are disgusting. It is bad enough that you are a violent thug, but then trying to justify it -- sheesh.
Shame on you.

Coldweasel Quintus says:

Being from the upper echelons of society, Kris's parents must be very disappointed that he doesn't know where to put his apostrophes. Of course, I could be wrong - this is only a laymans (sic) opinion.

There's something very disturbing about the 'Down With Tha Sistas' Farang-Expressing-Solidarity-With-Bar-Girls type. I don't know what makes Kris think that this girl, who obviously survived perfectly well up until the moment he walked into her place of employment, suddenly needed his assistance. Poor delusional fellow. I'm sure his parents could fill a book.

TANAI KWAI says:

David, you are a funny bastard.

Kris writes,

"so i'm from UK now ? i'm really not."

Oh Christ. Can it get any more inconvenient to be an American?

"and i'm from the upper echelons of society, both my parents being psychiatrists"

Holy cow. To the manor born. You're practically royalty. Sired by not one, but two people who get paid by the hour to listen to people deny they want to shag their mothers (Dana).

"and your poor laymans attempt at some kind of analysis of me is rather futile."

Kris, if you read some of David's earliest posts, you will learn that he is, in fact, a former psychiatrist. And if you were to google him you would learn that he has a degree from King's College and a Masters of Public Health from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School, which brought him to Thailand in the first place. So I'm guessing you are feeling like quite an asshole right about now.

"but really, is there noone that can see my actions as atleast understandable given the setting and the fact that he egged me on ?"

No. If you brutalized an old man as you claim you should be locked up. This is an evil act you must surely regret, unless you are truly an animal (or from Bristol). We all know the working girl you reference was neither "16," "scared" nor thankful to you in any regard. Indeed, I account for the possibility that you are making the whole thing up, or embellishing the tale beyond recognition. Liars are not well received here and you'd be surprised at what lies so-called "laymans" [sic] psychiatry can tease out over time. It's a lot easier to stick to the truth, you'll find.

"i have never perused the ladies of the night."

You've never "perused" them, have you? What the fuck does that mean? Are you trying to say you've never paid for sex? You just lounge around in bars for hours sucking up the mamasan's time and assaulting her regular customers when she's trying to do business?

"i will however try out eden next time im in bkk."

As someone who claims to have no interest in hookers I can see why the Eden Club would hold such allure. I'm sure the girls will all greet you as a liberator since a number of patrons they are forced to service are probably in their 50's and overdue for a good beating.

TK

J says:

well, for every incident there are usually unique circumstances and maybe the old guy really did have it coming, but at the end of the day does it change anything kicking his ass? i have to say the setting makes it even less understandable, but as a guy I certainly know that annoying jerk-offs have a knack of pushing the wrong buttons. there really are no victims in these bar encounters, and if any usually it's the customer.

jimbo says:

Kris you little gimp 200 cm, wow can i touch you? id give you a nice little stroke, pull your pants down and tan your little gay shitpipe infront of the whole bar as would half the blokes who read this what a little twat, id pay the staff at casanova to gang rape you like the little soft cunt you are, p.s paddy chavscum.com scallycentral.com

Me says:

If you are not from the UK then you must be either Australian or American. Therefore the following would be appropriate to describe the type of person you are:

1) Australian
You would typically be someone from Melbourne or Sydney���s western or eastern suburbs live in a weatherboard or brick-veneer abode that has a variety of early model Holden and/or Fords in various states of disrepair littered around the yard. You enjoy loud music, drinking and spit a lot, typically you may be sporting a world class mullet however these days a skin head is acceptable. Having no employment you have traveled to Thailand using your fortnightly unemployment benefits, that���s right you are a modern day Bogan.

2) American
The action you took is accepted behavior in your culture, we all understand that. I am sure the elderly pensioner had it coming you were just performing a pre-emptive strike.

All in all I think it could be said that you are a bit of a cunt and the sooner you piss off back from whence you came the better.

hentaigaijin says:

i too find it pretty revolting to see an ancient geezer pawing a very young girl but i don't begrudge them getting their oats. and i do appreciate the fact that it could wind one up though if the girl looked underage.

if the old geezer picked up on one of the comments and threatened said chav then whose fault is it that he got his head kicked in? if it had been me, i would have just told the old geezer to shut his face. then again, copius amounts of alcohol invariably lead to violent incidents so this kris chap might not have been in control of himself.

personally, i would be somewhat ashamed at bashing up an old man. however, the old geezer should have kept his gob shut if he wasn't prepared for what came after.

unless of course our resident chav just beat up the defenceless old paedo and made the rest of it up.

Grunt says:

Noting no dust-ups were reported during any number of outings with Anna Nicole Smith [archtype farang female] and her 80-something year old yet fabulously wealthy husband James Howard Marshall II, we can happily conclude that Kris is indeed a lower form of life then a common ladyboy.

At least western females demonstrate some degree of solidarity! Honor among thieves, and all that.

Providing his account of events is anything other then drug induced hallucinations and an overactive imagination.

geordie says:

Chavs are one of the main reasons I came to LOS,the goal of a young Chav girl is to have a baby called Britney or Chantelle preceded by the first name of Friggin (at least thats what they shout at them in the street "Friggin Britney get here now" sometimes followed by the affectionate term you bastard)by the age of fifteen get a flat and support from the goverment, then have another one a few years later to keep the money coming in to support their affluent lifestyle of Burberry and Diamond White. Thank God most of them can't read or write well enough to apply for a passport.

golfbum says:

CHAV is an acronym for Council House And Violent, so I've heard, but the descriptions above are much more illuminating.

Mr Thaky, from bangkokchat.org says:

wonkers all wonkers.

Sounds like you've all had a slap or 2 in the past from the local Chav brigade.

Don't know the direct translation in Thai for "Chav".

But l can tell you this. Smiling while indirectly {directly younger generation} treating you like a lump of shite is just as riff in LOS's as in old Blighty.
Only difference is considerably higher number of politely acting Chav's in LOS's
At least the Brit Chav's stick out in the crowd.

Thako.

Bangkokdiaries.com says:

Where I come from we are taught to respect people older than us, even we don't agree with what they say or do.

Violence is only the answer for those who cannot think things through.

SeatSniffer says:

He's an american?...jesus, now you see why I ran away to Thailand.

We don't like you because:
A. You're a cock-blocker. You're not getting laid, and no one else can either!
B. You pick fist fights with senior citizens.

Next time you're in Thailand and feel like fighting, just check in to any Muay Thai camp, they're sure to let you stay.

You might not like it though:
1. No seniors
2. They hit back

Ian says:

I really cannot abide this type of scumbag. They imagine that they are "hard".

No really hard guy would punch a pensioner or stab or shoot anyone, or beat anyone up-with help from all his dickhead friends

Acts such as these identify a coward pure and simple

hentaigaijin says:

is this the part where i am supposed to cry and thank 'mama'?

geordie says:

wonkers all wonkers.

Sounds like you've all had a slap or 2 in the past from the local Chav brigade.

On the contrary Mr Thacko (it is Thacko isn't it sounds like you might be a bit of a chava yourself, apologies if I'm mistaken)it was me who gave " the slap" to the Chava I think you'll find that most Chava's like most low life only act the big man when it's safe eg: when he's got 20 mates behind him, if he's got a 50 yard start, or if it's an old age pensioner like Kris preferably a woman just to be on the safe side. I got sick of coming home after a days graft in the UK to see them outside the local shops with their immaculate white track suits drinking cans of lager that my taxes I'd just paid went towards that very can he was drinking. The UK now is a country for scroungers and spongers, wouldn't you like to come to Thailand and say your victimised in the UK and get a house, a car, and money to live, my apologies to the genuine cases and not the eastern block mafia who cause all the bad publicity. Also if you don't like the set up in Thailand don't come, and leave it to those who do, by the way I think you'll find the word is wankers and not wonkers.

hentaigaijin says:

someone else has mentioned one very crucial point that i hitherto overlooked:

if kris the chav was genuinely appalled by the behaviour of said geriatric-paedo, why didn't he treat his 'mama' (the mamasan) with similar disdain? after all, she was utterly complicit in his crime and was more than likely encouraging proceedings!! he beat up the old fart but arse-licked the pimp. bravo!!

the old geezers are there to put cash in the girls' pockets. i'll rarely pay more than 1K baht for an fcuk these days so without them, the girls would be skint.

hentaigaijin says:

i do so hate the "friend of whores" type, don't you.

however, if the girl was 14 then maybe the old geezer deserved to have his false teeth rearranged. shirley?

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

hentaigaijin you just won the "Thaky reply of the day" award.

take a bow.

Thaky.

MattyBoy says:

Kris, what a complete wanker you truly are.

Basically, you walked into a beer bar, late, drunk, latched yourself onto the mamasan, insulted her clientele for no apparent reason, and then dragged a fucking pensioner into a filthy soi and gave him a kicking.

And what’s with the 'ferrang leo' comment, you stupid prick? Are you one of these guys who mutters 'stupid ferrang' at every given opportunity? This makes you feel superior, right? Do you not think the mamasan thought you were a complete dick for slagging off an innocent ferrang tourist, who has committed no crime other than buying a bar girl a few drinks and paying back some of the attention she was undoubtedly giving him?

Which type of ferrang do you think the mamasan prefers? The ferrang guy who plonks him self on a bar stool, buys the girls a few drinks and has a good time (her target market) or the ferrang guy who turns up 2 minutes before closing and beats up her punters?

Let me tell you now mate, I would suffer no guilt or ill feeling in dropping to your pathetic little level and beating the shite out of you, should I have been there and witnessed this.

Something tells me you would not have started on the guy should someone have been there to smash an astray in your face. Personally speaking, I would have done so with a passion.

Your either a cowardly little plum who beat up a guy 42 years senior to you, in which case you are a cunt, or you are a complete fucking liar who has nothing other to do apart from posting bullshit in order to gain attention, in which case, again, you are a cunt.

Cunt.

Kris's Brother says:

Leave my brother alone fcukers! He can't help who he really is. A lonely transsexual from Bristol who regularly flagellates himself...

Andy says:

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Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones singing lord, kumbaya
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Oh lord, kumbayah

Someones laughing, lord, kumbaya
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Someones crying, lord, kumbaya
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Oh lord, kumbaya

Someones praying, lord, kumbaya
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Someones sleeping, lord, kumbaya
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Oh lord, kumbaya
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Mandrake says:

Kris,
I hate you and I hope you die soon.
When they roll out the eugenics program, you're fvcked.

hentaigaijin says:

krissy is my hero,
krissy is my hero,
LA LA LA LA,
LA LA LA LA, OOH!

Derukugi says:

If you believe in Karma, then Kris the self-appointed hero will be dragged into a dirt soi and beaten up when he is old and weak.
I hope with interest.

hentaigaijin says:

hey thaky! thanks a bunch!

is this the bit where i'm supposed to cry and thank 'mama'?

TANAI KWAI says:

By the way, this was fairly entertaining:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000FBNG1O/026-9294725-9502020?v=glance&n=283926

Probably comes off as hackneyed for Brit viewers but provides some useful insights for Americans and other non-subjects about Chav/Hooligan culture, such as it is.

The story is actually told through the eyes of an American college drop-out -- played by the erstwhile hairy-footed Elijah Wood. Some nice performances.

TK

Bill Bat says:

Some 63 year olds are pretty tough.

What kind of 63 year old are we talking about here I wonder. A Clint Eastwood type or a grouchy Bob Hoskins sort of 63 year old perhaps? Or was the victim more along the lines of a helpless Woody Allen or Steven Hawking type?

Billbat

Smudge says:

Dear Kris/Derek,

Please let us know when you are coming back to Chiang Mai. I have a couple of Thai mates on a moto-cy waiting for you.

BD says:

"What kind of 63 year old are we talking about here..."

If it involves an underage Asian type, it has to be Woody Allen.

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

Note chaps :

LOS's has Chav's also.
Most go round in Brown.
Some even kill Farrang BF's and run over their GF's in their pick-ups.
For the pure "Chav" of it.

Thaky.

hentaigaijin says:

BD! Thaky! Such inspired form!

Woody Allen fingering his young asian washer-upper ...

just for the Chav of it =;-P

C.H.A.V.

Cowardly Hammer Ancient Victim

D Dylan says:

Well Kris isn't American as some of you suggest, because we don't know how to measure in metric!

kris says:

wow, an intelligent observation from Dylan ! for such a gathering of the best and brightest, nobody picked up my use of the metric system until this obsevant person. i also stated that english isnt my native tounge. so pay closer attention, "gentlemen". i am actually NW euro, specifically Denmark. my name is Kristoffer. i've never been called anything but that name and the short form "kris". i never slagged off David though, so i can't really understand why he has set it out for me. but for a trained professional to leave europe for thailand something serious must have happened. maybe a 16year old patient was a little to tempting to him ?

i'll try to reply in an orderly fashion.

SeatSniffer : if you're as ccoky in 9-12 months, when i return to LOS, i'd LOVE to meet you. i really would. same goes for the other internet tough guys here.

Jaques and those of you that kind of understand what happened, ofcourse it was a rash and impulsive action. as i stated before, i'm not proud of what happened.
TK, i have a strong fascination for the "nightlife" around Thailand. because of my blond hair, piercing blue eyes and my physiqe, i get pussy thrown at me in Thailand. i have however not had two at the same time, therefore i am considering eden when i come back.

mattyboy, you weren't there. so shut the fuck up. and if you're still interested in calling me a cunt, ill give you a call when i return to los.

billbat, he was the bob hoskins type.
a more disgusting one at it.

smudge, give me your email and i'll be delighted to see you when i return. since my attitudes to the likes of you are shared by many thais, believe it or not i have some friends in high places as well.

i will repeat my warning though.

those of you prone to indulge in kiddyfuck scenarios better start to look both ways before you do. there's a new breed of expats/longtermers in Thailand.
and we don't tolerate you paedophiles.

Johnny says:

I think we all know who needs a thorough jiggy-jig to ease his soul.

We know some people consider a bar girl beneath them, err, and think that those go with them are losers.

Reminds me of that song by Sailor "and the cops they came streaming trying to bring us all in, but we spent the night in the soft silky bed, with the girls of Amsterdam"

fem2u says:

You guys are idiots! He has you guys talking about him. Whether your comments are good or bad, I don't think he really cares and only he knows the truth. Kris is definitely not an American because our unemployed teenagers don't receive monthly "doles" that allows them the luxury of travel.

sceptical says:

"Friends in high places", What the fuck?

Kris, you still haven't explained why you were sucking up to the mamasan, who was employing the bar girls to go with the old guys.

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

The littel shite Kris didnt mention me in his long response.

Jesus fux, hope the little pencil neck don't fancy me.

Thaky.

Sgt. Hoffman says:

Sorry Kristoffer, I thought Kris was short for Stupid Fucker!

Like bullshit, your story and posts stink, you attention craving Fuck Up.

You don't know what hard is, hard is not beating the crap out of an old guy.

hentaigaijin says:

kris,

i work with a guy who trained in clinical psychology at the sorbonne. maybe he and david could put together a panel of doctors to sort your head out.

threatening peeps left, right and centre is neither big nor clever. neither is narcism bordering on twattishness. so what if you can get pussy for free? well done. we're all really proud of you. i recommend booking into eden and shagging a whore up the arse.

i do sympathise though that you could have beaten the old guy up because you were pissed, volatile, and he egged you on. however, have you since been back to the bar to remonstrate with the mamasan/ save the world? have you ever seen that movie "taxi-driver"?

you are right to take a stance against paedos but i don't think all this talk of violence is really demonstrating that you have learnt from your original mistake.

try to chill out and just be a person. it's better than trying to be dolph lungdren. thailand is a place to make friends and not a place to make enemies.

anyway, you'll do what you want at the end of the day.

(to fem2u) it helps pass the day.

Jaques says:

Kris, I feel sorry for you. You have some serious issues that need addressing. Maybe there's something missing in part of your brain, I don't know. Anyway, you obviously feel VERY strongly about underage sex, so why don't you go and do something constructive about it? You could work for an organisation that deals with underage sex workers, instead of threatening people left, right and centre like a spoilt demented child.
If you carry on gong through life being violent and confrontational you will and up very lonely and bitter. It's your choice.

kris says:

your comments are appreciated, hentaigaijin.
i do not have any kind of trouble with my head though but thanks for the concern.
i was merely *responding* to threats by the way.
and i was just pointing out that theres no need for me to buy sex.
i've seen taxi driver (very decent flick) and i can assure you i won't end up like that.
i'm just having a bit of a problem to decide who's really at "fault" in that situation, the mama or the "customer".
i mean if there's no demand there wouldn't be a market.
in my 6 months in thailand i've been in many situations that could have been "solved"(yeahyeah nothing gets solved by violence and all that) by violence but i resorted to it only one time because of extraordinary circumstances.

i'm not on the dole btw, im gainfully employed.

mr. thaksin just so you don't feel left out, i did include something about internet tough guys and i'm assuming that includes you too.

TANAI KWAI says:

Idiot,

David is not a former psychiatrist. He is, however, a current one, as your responses continue to demonstrate.

The vast majority of Danes I've encountered are wonderful people. You are the second exception, the first being a musclebound Danish rapper plying his trade in front of a Copenhagen McDonald's. I recall him exhorting me to recognize that, "It ain't a game to be a Dane!" as I hurried past, his piercing blue eyes focusing on me like two glistening toilet mints. I can't be certain but I believe he also proclaimed, "I get pussy thrown at me/And I fill it with jism/I'm compelled to brag/By my twattish narcissism."

If Kris and the rapper were the same guy, I apologize to all Danes for suggesting there is more than one Danish cunt walking the earth.

That said, the thousands of filthy would-be blonde rastafarians who loiter about in Kristiania are also repellent. And the giant viking cows who run the churro concession in Tivoli gardens are absolute cunts as well. But the rest of the Danes are thoroughly decent folk I can vouch for. I understand they are widely reputed to be the nicest people in Europe.

"fem2u" (a tranny handle?)

TK

kris says:

the kwai part of your nick is very fitting, indeed :)

hentaigaijin says:

we bring the "DRAma", to you and ya muthafuckin "MAma".

paedos and pimps are equally to blame. then again, ask yourself the question, does the "legitimate" sex industry not serve to "legitimise" the paedo activities to some degree. that is to say, if there was less mainstream prostitution, there would be less commercial kiidy-fiddling too (?). i tell myself otherwise but then again i love shagging whores.

if you see a paedo and you deem it necessary to give them a kicking that's up to you i guess. but could be more hassle for you. maybe leave it to the old bill? not sure.

by the way kris, you're command of english seems terribly native to me ("very decent flick"), being an expert of sorts; i find it rather hard to believe you're danish. what's up with that?

matt says:

kris,
Today is international day for retards.Please send an encouraging message to a retarded friend just as ive done.I dont care if you lick windows,interfere with farm animals,vote labour or occasionally shit yourself.beat up o.a.p.s you hang in there sunshine youre special.
Take care you window licking cuntbag

phil H says:

So much angst, so little intelligence.

So kris, after a whole six months in LOS you have friends in high places. Must be the assistant chief to the chief assistant bog cleaner in Nana Plaza. Christ, this takes me back to school days "My dad's bigger than your dad". 'Oh yeah, my dad's a black belt in origami". Pathetic.

But the best bit is the part about the "new breed of expats and long termers". This from a guy who has been in LOS for a truly biblically epic term of six months. From his attitude I can imagine his "new breed", a bunch of pissed up gob off merchants, all wind and piss. Poised they are, ready to fearlessly take on allcomers, over the age of 60, but shit scared of the repercussions of their actions. All that is missing from his warning is "Go ahead punk, make my day".

I have to admit that after his second piece I could imagine how in the wrong circumstances rash actions, later regretted, could ensue. However after the latest rantings I can see that he is merely a petty little thug with severe behavioural problems. I don't know about chav though, unless he could be classified neandochav man.

kris says:

hentaigaijin, just to fire up some more kris-bashing, i consider myself fluent in english. i am danish though, believe it or not. as fem2u said, only i know the truth and thats the sad thing about internet. everyone becomes so fucking hard all of a sudden. i'll just stop replying to the ridiculous flaming btw. maybe i should have just stayed with stickman :) but mangosauce is comedy gold, ill give David that if nothing else. and for any lengthy correspondances my designated mail for abuse is tkollek@gmail.com

hentaigaijin says:

"can't we all just get along?" (rodney k.)

kris: why not join some associations aimed at combatting paedos. or maybe you could just join combat 18 instead.

seriously though; chav and let chav, i reckon. it's done now so.

have fun bumming the shag mattresses at eden club.

kris says:

i resent and hate everything about fascism and racism. i'm as far away from that as possible. and once again to invite some more flames, i donate to org. like
Save The Children, MSF and a couple of smaller organisations working with development in general and trafficking/slavery especially.
my gainful employment at the moment is actually to be the link between companies of various size and different charities like the ones mentioned above

SPQR says:

For Christ's sake at least Kris isn't an American. I mean we aren't the cause of all that's wrong in the world...

Sorry Kris it's just that we Americans are being blamed for everything these days. Thanks again for making it plain that this just isn't true.

You know if Kris is lucky he will live to be an old man, if he isn't he'll meet a younger version of himself some day in a far off land that will kick his ass long after he's recognized the error of his thuggish ways.

I thought about this all the way home tonight from the office. Kris hopefully you are not serious about what you did. I really hope you just made this up. You seemed to be trying to also chat David up for drugs so hopefully you are just clueless and harmless as well. It is my hope that you come to understand a bit more about Thailand and the Lady Bars as well.

Once when I was a in the military posted overseas my brother ended up as a civilian working on the same installation where I was stationed. Anyone having served in such a posting will likely understand the dynamics and environment for soldiers, expats, Foreign Service workers and their families and visiting friends.

The community turns out to be a small one and is analogous to a "company town". You may not know everyone but there aren't many degrees of separation (Not at all unlike the expat community in Thailand.). Anyway one day after a few weeks of deployment I was able to arrange with my brother to pick me up at the heliport after we got back.

The 1st thing I noticed was that he was sporting a black eye and several stitches over one eyebrow. There had to be a good story for this one and since he is a somewhat imposing man 6'3" and about 260lbs mid twenties (at the time), I felt that surely somebody else got a righteous ass kicking. However on the way home he told me the weirdest story...

He was sitting in one of the local bars frequented by mostly NCOs and expats (a favorite of mine) talking to the bar tender. He spoke the local language well enough to converse with the bar tender and staff without English and was just sitting there chatting it up with his local friends and the staff. Another American was there with him but as they both had adopted the "native" look and thus were mistaken for locals.

Whilst my brother was enjoying an evening with his friends at the pub harming no one our thug arrives and slaps my brother in the middle of the back to get his attention. My bother told me that he turned around and was sucker punched by this turd and knocked off his bar stool and into semi consciousness for a few seconds.

As my brother lay there the room froze and this ass stands over him yelling all this crap about how disgusting, stupid and lazy the locals were, ends his rant with a few Nazi slogans(not kidding, shit for brains really did this) and then runs out with his mates.

Seconds later everyone snaps out of it and calls the local cops and the MPs since my brother was an American and we both had MP friends. The local talent gets there before the MPs, takes his statement and starts looking for our boy. The MPs take my brother downtown to get statement and set about finding the perp.

All of this then came together in a kind of surreal made for TV way that night. As my brother was being driven downtown the lucky winner enters an American facility to visit a friend and gets ID'd and taken into custody. Our thuggish friend managed to fuck up in just the right way to face problems with both the American as well as local authorities thankfully.

Anyway as my brother was in the MP station filling out the complaint they bring our tough guy friend in shackles. It immediately dawns on dip-shit ‘tough guy” that he hasn't just assaulted some poor local guy, he has attacked an American working under contract overseas for the US military and...

--"Oh shit...there were going to be some severe consequences..."--

He was not going to get away with being an anonymous criminal preying on the people he thought were helpless to hold him accountable.

Suddenly our thuggish friend loses his faux ghetto demeanor (he was in fact white) and tells my brother (according the police statement):

"Hey man you don't have to do this. I didn't know who you were. I just thought you were one of the locals, you don't have to do this."

My brother told him:

"You did what you had to do now I am going to do what I have to do."

After the MPs finished with collecting their evidence and statements (as well as his jailhouse lobby admission of his own actions) he was processed through the US system quickly and got to sit in a holding cell in the MP office while he waited about an hour for his new friends to come pick him up. The US authority handed him over to the locals with the US complaints and presented him for prosecution under local law where he later served 15 months for assault. The American authorities were only too glad to be free of him and made it quite clear that whatever fate awaited him was of no concern to them.

Not unlike Kris, the thug in my story seemed oddly to believe that once my brother recognized him as an American that my brother would feel some sense of understanding and support for this turd’s behavior.

Alas Kris no matter how you try to justify attacking some poor old man in a pub, your actions are both morally outrageous as well as criminal. In the US we have laws against elder abuse and most American juries relish the chance to put violent psychopaths in jail to rot. Oh yes and before you try to claim that your victim was some kind of perv and thus deserved it, you should better consider your audience. My wife for example is Thai and when she came to this country she was in her late 20’s, the US customs people asked her if she was old enough to have traveled on a marriage Visa since she looked so young to their western eyes. I mention this since not only have you admitted to using hard drugs like cocaine, you randomly mention that you were in a mood altered at the time of your attack on your victim due to frustration and alcohol. You didn’t see a bit of your father in this poor old man did you?

Why don’t you set up an appointment at the Chiang Mai Amphur to let them know what a hero you are? I’m sure they’ll be delighted to sit down with you and get your statement. Alternatively if you lack faith in the boys in brown you could always arrange to meet with a consular officer from your own country and let them in on your chivalrous dealings in the Kingdom? Make sure to pack light for your next trip though, oh and don’t ask anyone for cigarettes…

Hanover Fist (Kris's Dad) says:

My name is Hanover Fist and I am Kris's father. How dare you scold our son so. We are very proud of him...

"Stern, er I mean; Kris is overflowing with the very milk of human kindness..."

---Unless of course you count all the times he sold dope as a nun!---

"Stern, uh I mean; Kris would never hurt anyone not even a fly..."

---Unless you count the preschool prostitution ring!---

Hangings too good for him! Burning is too good for him! He ought to be torn up into itsy bitsy pieces --- and buried alive!

Cut to scene where Kris's dad's chest erupts with bulging muscles and breaks through his shirt.

Queue up "Cheap Trick" as Kris's dad explodes in anger off the witness stand and launches towards Kris, chasing him out of the make-shift hearing room at the Grace. Hanover Fist heads down Sukhumvit after Kris swinging his fists wide knocking Tuk Tuks, cops and noodle stands into the air.

SPQR says:

Kris,

Wow I hadn't realized that you were such a humanitarian. However I see from one of your responses that you are essentially the go between for all these kindly charities and NGOs.

Did you share your recent vigilantism with them? I am sure that they would want to showcase your exploits as part of their PR campaigns.

More likely if they knew you were doing; setting about beating defenseless old pensioners that you decided (through your substance induced haze) were deserving of a good beating you'd find yourself back pushing a broom at Taco Bell.

Finally claming your victim was some sort of sexual predator based solely on your drunken judgment is very troubling. Your justifications read exactly like some Klu Klux Klansman on trial for lynching. You know the part where he turns to the Jury and expects understanding because the lynching victim was black, Jewish, gay, or was in an interracial marriage? Then the jury just stares back at him as if he's a square egg or three legged chicken.

--Notice how you are getting pretty much the same reception here?--

I think you'll find these days that most people will be horrified at your actions should you share your exploits openly with them.

Sure there will always be the rubes who buy your rationalizations for your actions, but then they aren't likely well educated or very experienced, kinda like most bigots I guess...

Should you ever by chance run into me at a pub, the lady with me will likely be my Thai wife. And you'd truly have no idea of what was really going on as you sat there all bleary eyed judging us.

Consider that it is entirely possible that you may run across me in this way as my wife simply loves Chiang Mai. So whilst you sit there judging me for being a sub human of some sort the reality is not at all as you might imagine.

I would encourage you to restrain your thuggishness though. I probably won't be as easy a victim as the last poor old man you dumped out of the wheel chair and assaulted.

Of course I think we all know that if you did run into anyone at the pub under 50 (or without an oxygen bottle) that you wouldn't think of pulling any crap like that...

Kitten says:

I notice a lot of you paying Kris out for thinking the girl was "16" and saying she is more than likely 25, I know most of you are hopeless at judging asian people's ages because they are small in stature, but the face of a 40 year old hag on the body of a prepubescent boy "25" do not maketh.

So will everyone so easily dismiss the fact that underage girls do fall into this line of work ?

matt says:

kris,
what was the name of the bar sounds like its worth checking out free beer and babes cool! It seems the resident retard is out of town for a while also.

hentaigaijin says:

SPQR wrote:

"Sure there will always be the rubes who buy your rationalizations for your actions, but then they aren't likely well educated or very experienced, kinda like most bigots I guess..."

hhmmm SPQR how about the premise "innocent until proven guilty" - it could be applied to both sides of the equation. how do you know for certain that the old guy was not a paedo and that the girl was not too young? were you there? you are making assumptions without anything concrete to back them up, therefore i would say that your opinions exhibit a certain prejudice, and are not unlike those of a bigot. chavs are people too and they deserve a fair hearing.

if the old-timer did indeed offer our young hero a shot at the title then he partly has himself to blame for his cuts and bruises. put up or shut up. i personally would have laughed it off but alcohol is partly responsible for many a violent death. c'est la vie.

i take monsieur chav at his word and that is all anyone can do. if his version of events is bull then he is guilty not only of gbh but also of fibbing.

well-educated? partially. i educate the intellectual elite of thailand but then again you don't need a masters from the sorbonne for that. experienced? well i've shagged in excess of 50 thai whores if that qualifies me?

i think kris has had enough of a roasting. he has admitted his mistake and deserves our understanding.

this one is for you kris in your fight to clear your name.

Help the aged,
One time they were just like you,
Drinking, smoking cigs and sniffing glue. help the aged,
Dont just put them in a home,
Cant have much fun in there all on their own.

Give a hand, if you can,
Try and help them to unwind.
Give them hope & give them comfort cos theyre running out of time.

*in the meantime we try.
Try to forget that nothing lasts forever. no big deal so give us all a feel.
Funny how it all falls away.
When did you first realise?
Its time you took an older lover baby. teach you stuff
Although hes looking rough.
Funny how it all falls away.

Help the aged
cos one day youll be older too
- you might need someone who can
Pull you through
& if you look very hard
Behind the lines upon their face you may see where you are headed
And its such a lonely place.

*repeat
You can dye your hair
But its the one thing you cant change.
Cant run away from yourself, yourself...

*repeat
Funny how it all falls away. (x3)
So help the aged.

(beaten to a) PULP

SPQR says:

Hi Hentaigaijin,

I don't disagree with your assertion that I wasn't there and thus cannot be sure one way or another. I appreciate your point there. Please understand that my reply is meant respectfully. :-)

For me the issue there was one of vigilantism spawn of ignorance from a "holier than thou" hypocrite like Kris. His actions were unacceptable and they are criminal and my not knowing any other facts in the case doesn't change that fact.

Kris allows for himself which of society's laws and values he'll violate (illegal drug use, public drunkeness, assault, elder abuse) and then he picks out in others that he "thinks" are behaving wrongly (and has no proof whatsoever to substantiate this) and then victimizes them in a state of his own inebriation.

Since Kris is a self proclaimed drug snorting, heavy drinking newbee his ability to make any accurate judgements comes into serious doubt and by his own admission his was under the influence of at least one substance.

Further we have all heard the tales of the people staring at the old farang with some little Thai kid in tow on Khaoson. People start to assume he's a perv until to discover later that he's the father.

In the case of the Beer Bars I have (thankfully) had a reasonbable amount of experience here. My experince was that the ladies were for the most part in their 20's and 30's. There are the relatively rare 18-19 or 40 year olds working but that is what I have seen. Of course that isn't to say that Kris sought out something more squalid.

I would add also for Kris's benefit the next time he considers such a stunt that the US has put such pressure on Thailand in this area that the penalties for the farang pervs in Thailand are now greater than in some US cities and states.

For example there was recently a CNN special that described the pervs from Europe and the US going to Atalanta Georgia because the sentancing laws in Atlanta were easier on them than in SEA. Thankfully Georgia has now quickly passed some of the toughest laws on the books anywhere.

None of this means that Kris was wrong in his identification of the lady's age. It is just exceedingly unlikely that he was correct. If he did feel so righteous he should have called the cops but he didn't do that. Regardless of how bad the Thai police might be I would have far greater trust for their judgement than some dunken (what is he 21?) hooligan's.

I don't know "kitten" above but I have been with plenty of ladies in their 30's and 40's both here and in Thailand. For the most part they weren't "hags" they were pretty hot actually and they didn't look what I would consider 40 either.

As I said my wife is Thai and in her late 20's and appears much younger than she in fact is. Her skin is perfect and she has no lines on her face or body. She is also very small in stature so this adds to the difficulty in accurately judging her age. In a dark pub or walking on the street at night it is even harder to guess her age accurately. Unless Kris hits me from behind with a baseball bat I think we'll be fine.

Further I really worry about our own children and myself with them if guys like him are lurking around. Imagine there I am in Siam Square buying school clothes with our kids and getting some noodles. When suddenly stalker Kris lurches up out of the men's room and assaults me because he thinks I'm a perv. No I don't accept that. I would see him rot in a Thai jail for that.

My point really is that I don't want some shiftless yard bird like Kris getting pumped up on paint thinner and wood alchol pulling out his nipple ring and then assaulting people in the dark.

Okay I feel better now. :-)

TANAI KWAI says:

Team Mango:

I do not believe this woman was a minor, or even resembled a minor. The story simply does not add up.

Kris claims he is an avid supporter of NGO's whose members fight human trafficking and the like. Needless to say, this is a heaping shovel-load of bullshit. The overweening detail provided in naming these pet causes is a giveaway atop a pile of other giveaways. Besides, if these multiple NGO affiliations were remotely genuine then:

(a) Kris would most certainly have reported this man since beating up the poor geriatric short of killing him would not have addressed the "problem";

(b) it is HIGHLY unlikely that Kris would have resorted to violence given that lefties of this stripe are hardly known as bar-brawling badasses who spend their time sculpting their biceps;

and

(c) Kris would certainly not be inclined to "exploit" women at a straight-up, hardcore brothel like the Eden Club (which is exactly the way the NGO-types would perceive the nature of that establishment in particular). Any punter with a week in Bangkok under his belt knows that the employees at Eden are required to engage in some of the most spectacular PFP sexual activity on offer in the whole of LOS in order to fulfill the exacting customer-service requirements of the scar-faced Frenchman in charge... Let's just say the film "The Aristocrats" comes to mind. (For Kitten's benefit, this is not the same film as "The Aristocats.")

Get real. This jackass was drunk and, if we view his actions in the most charitable light possible, profoundly ignorant about the rules of the game. Kris has now sought to set aside his machismo and to replace it with the mantle of jovial humanitarianism... As though sprinkling in a few PC catch-phrases and the occasional smiley face absolves him of having behaved like an animal. Nauseating.

Kris would have done well to say:

"Okay, here's the unvarnished truth... The girl wasn't underage. I knew that. The old guy knew that. The mamasan knew that. But the old-timer insulted me and damaged my pride in front of women I had sought to impress with my physique and wit. He was decrepit and ugly. I was young and strong. And yet these ladies seemed amused and even impressed by his challenge. They knew and liked him well, obviously having entertained this infuriating, know-it-all regular on many nights. He was defeating me and I felt diminished. He was going home with this hot woman who should have been mine in any sane world. And yet she seemed satisfied to go with him. I was far from home, culturally disoriented and suddenly felt a crushing, frightening loneliness. Being a little drunk (but by no means drunk enough to excuse my actions), I behaved badly. Very badly. I couldn't stop myself. I restored order to my world with each vicious blow. I believe I am not an evil person, though I know this was an evil act. I experience guilt about what I did. I seem to seek out opportunities to discuss it with others -- even strangers or other Westerners I meet casually in bars. I introduce the topic by boasting about my exploits but I always feel empty after telling the story. And yet I keep telling it, over and over. This experience of hearing honest reactions to this event has helped me to become more honest with myself about what occurred and why. And I intend to spend every day atoning for the brutality I visited upon this older man. It sickens me to think he could have been my father, and may well have been somebody's father. (From the way the women at the bar gently tended to him, you might have thought he was father of them all.) Though many of the comments made here have been abusive and painful to read, and while I may not have respect for every view expressed, this has been a profoundly valuable exercise. Thank you."*

That's the way the new breed of expats and long-termers roll.

TK

*Remember, you just highlight the text with your cursor, then type Ctrl X. Once inside the comment box, hit Ctrl V.

Rick H. says:

To: the author of this website

If I were you, I would block all future submissions and/or corresponances from that sad, boring little twerp who signs off as "TK".

This creep has committed to memory your life story. He has "googled" you for God's sake!!! He obviously has a man-crush on you. I bet he also sends you lengthy personal e-mails in addition to his boring diatribes on the website. It can't be long before a loser like this "TK" moron offers to meet you in person and buy you a drink.

Stay away from lonely, demented individuals like this "TK" prick...or you may be awoken to find him standing in your bedroom with a roll of duct tape, a box of razor blades, and a half used tube of K-Y jelly...all ready to "google" you in person.

hentaigaijin says:

well SPQR has put his point of view across most eloquently.

how about you kris? any chance of you putting away the boxing gloves? could your silence be symptomatic of a breakthrough in your rehabilitation? is now the moment for the group hug?

and the next time your violent fantasies take a hold, be sure to drop by for some more mangosauce therapy. all the best with the charity work.

"it ain't a game to be a dane,
some have advanced the theory that i am insane,
i shake my mane cuz i am the bane,
of paedophilia as i'm smoking that sensimilia,
howz lfe treatin ya OAP,
on your tour of booty (he asks astutely),
who is this cutsey? would you introduce me? she's trying to elude me, i've drunk too much booze see, mai bpen rai mamasan will do me.

oi you've got more lip than akabusi,
this 'll be a doozy, excuse me but did you just look at me funny, listen here sonny...
he puts his lights out like james toney,
he makes about as much sense as a brummy,
he..." OH FUCK IT!!

kris, i hate to say this but, "YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE CUNT AND EVERYBODY HERE (IN THAILAND, I MEAN) HATES YOU". soz. (PS are you really going to fight some of the other posters, and if so when?!!)

TANAI KWAI says:

Rick H.,

You can't google a man who simply goes by the name "David." Try it, and you'll find no clear path to any specific man -- just a voluminous list of people named "David" who have been with your mother. Funny thing is, that works with any name.

It was a put-on, you literal-minded douchebag. Jesus on a ferris wheel.

You have had a sharp object in your ass ever since I declined to respond to your last pitiful cry for help.

Happy now?

Wait, don't answer that, you poor embittered cunt.

TK

Combover says:

Hey TK! I've missed your contributions.

Nice to see you once again putting the fear of God into the cerebrally challenged.

TANAI KWAI says:

Ha!

Noble Combover, of the best Mango Sauce handle ever devised, great to see you dissipating your energies here also.

TK

daniel says:

god! it is a sad day when the chavs finally make it over to thailand in their droves, i myself have seen a few in bangkok and i do all i can to steer clear of these cockney rhyming diamond geezers. its embarassing to be from the uk when they are around, i even do all i can to avoid them back home.
i just have one thing to say " fuck off you chavs cunts and die". i know thats not very intelligent but i am stooping to their level.
im just curious about one thing, "where do they get the money from to come here because they sure dont work for it", and some i have unfortunatly encountered in conversation have revealed that they are just out of prison and need to fuck some thai chavs.its a sad indeed when you sit down in a lovely resturant in phuket for instance and a group of chavs start trying to engage you in conversation, im sorry but i dont speak 'CHAV'
they are the scum of the earth and need to be eradicated.

hentaigaijin says:

chavs are a particular of uk culture wouldn't you agree. it's hard to do the turds justice when explaining the phenomenon to people from other countries.

by bro got in with the wrong crowd and was part of a chav posse. boshing pills, smoking crack, generally being a twat. he was a good kid and i had to be quite tough on him; we came to blows a few times. but he has straightened out now. his idle younger chav gf is certainly a millstone around his neck though. i blame the parents: one generation of chavs begets the other.

ferguson says:

I've met many people like Kris in my visits to Thailand. (unfortunately)
My last night there I had to fend off one angry little shite with a fake chav accent of my own and a couple of kebab sticks.
His problem was very simple and universal amongst these angry young plonkers now roaming the streets of what used to be my favourite holiday destination.
This unfortunate flew all the way to Thailand........ and he still can't get himself laid!
Sounds ridiculous but it's quite common over there.
It's got to suck travelling thousands of miles, and after a week of sunburn,..wandering about with no mates, and nights of cheap Thai whisky (I'm pretty sure this guy travels cheap} coming to the crashing realisation that, even with the friendly little thai hookers,....you still got no game!
He was getting punked by the Grandad with the hot chick while stuck talking to the fat toothless mamasan.
Note to all randy grandads in LOS:
Always travel with a pair of ninja kebab sticks in your pocket,.....they can be purchased at any street corner, covered in some variety of 'mystery meat' that will unfortunately have to be consumed prior to their implementation as a defensive device.

CP says:

so i'm from UK now ? i'm really not.
and i'm from the upper echelons of society, both my parents being psychiatrists.

ha ha 'king ha.....

Upper class, lower class. British, yank, whatever... a prick is a prick, no matter where it comes from.

you can just ask the girls that. And I suppose he came to thailand just for the scenery.

Oh well, I am thankful that chavs are no longer just in the UK, now everyone can have the pleasure of smashed up bus stops and 5 strong gangs attacking. pensioners.

kill 'em all, let god sort it out.

Kaltes says:

Yeah Kris is a turd. The old man, if we take kris at his word, is the one who wanted to fight. If I was in that same situation, I would have kicked the old man's ass too.

Where I diverge from kris is that I wouldn't have PICKED THE FIGHT by sitting in earshot of the old man talking shit about him constantly. If I was the old man, I might not have threatened Kris with a fight, but I certainly would have hired 2-5 thai guys to beat the shit out of Kris for me, then I would have stood over his beaten body and had my "date" hurl insults at him and laugh at him, then give me a nice hot kiss so he could watch.

The other way Kris is a turd is that he lies about not having paid for sex, then tries to act like older men who date young adult women in thailand are paedophiles. Like many perverse minds, Kris uses this faux noble cause to serve as an excuse for violence. I would compare Kris to young leftist thugs who like to wreck property every time you have a G8 summit or WTO meeting.

Kris really hit rock bottom by threatening to beat up people from this site if he sees them with young women. Poetic justice would be breaking into his hotel, plant some drugs, then tip the police. hah.

you are all clowns says:

Dickheads,

were you there? No..
so how the fuck can you comment about what happened. Are you assuming that as soon as you hit 63 you simply are too old to fight or cause any damage on anyone else. I too am against any adult with any young Thai girls especaily someone of 3 times her age. My rule is if she looks young she probably is young. DONT FUCKIN TOUCH IT!
As Kris said the 63 did not ignore him or ask what was wrong, he simply said do you want to fight (or along those lines). At 63 I think that guy is old enough to make his own decisions on whether to fight or not. (he is the one that asked for the fight) If I had a broken leg I would avoid all confrontaion as I know I dont stand a good chance of winning. This 63 year old clown should have done the same.

As for TK.. Get your head out of Davids arse and get some fresh air. Can you leave him out of any of your postings?

daniel says:

excellent 'Acronym' GOLFBUM but i doubt if the chav's would understand what that means. anyway i hope 7/11 doesnt start selling white ace cider anytime soon, god knows what could happen.

JD says:

Kris,

It's pretty easy to avoid a fight just from someone asking for one. Often calmly and confidently turning down a fight says a lot more about you than storming in with your fists flying. I have traveled the world and lived in some rough cities - I've never been in a fight and never lost face in avoiding one. Personally I would never, by choice, start a fight with someone that I would have to cause serious physical damage to in order to defeat, or choose to fight someone that I seriously outmatched. I will save the true violence for when I am backed into a corner or in order to protect friends or family. I think using violence outside of this situation is pretty pathetic. It is equally pathetic throwing around idle threats and arranging meet-ups with people for fisty-cuffs on a chat-site. This seems to me like the actions of a semi-useful pub-brawler with something to prove. There are people out there who are capable of physically destroying you, crippling you for life or ending your life. Perhaps you should calm down now and reign in your temper or maybe you will be unlucky enough to catch of one these people on a bad day, in a quiet bar, and say the wrong thing!

As for the term pedophile, I think it has become a grossly overused term. This term should NOT be used to describe someone who is involved with a girl that is significantly younger than them. The term pedophile cannot be used to describe an age difference. Pedophile should be reserved for people who, for whatever reason, in their disturbed minds, find children sexually attractive. Finding a fully developed, beautiful girl who is seventeen years old to be sexually attractive for example does not make someone a pedophile. I have noticed this term being banded around all to often on this site and others by dim-witted do-gooders. Lets save this term for the truly disturbed and not cast it around at every silver haired fella with a pretty young girl at his side. When Anna Kournikova hit the tennis scene about eight years ago, she was seventeen. Am I and all the millions of blokes who chatted about how she was the hottest thing at Wimbledon that year all pedophiles? My last girlfriend in England was 20 and looked quite young. I'm in my early 30s - does this make me a pedophile? When I was eighteen, I had a seventeen-year-old girlfriend - she was hot - I found her attractive as did a lot of guys in my school - were we pedophiles? Hazel Keeley was voted the 2nd sexiest woman in the world - she's nineteen. She was seventeen when she first appeared as a page 3 model. Britney Spears was seventeen when she made her debut single - I think quite a few guys found her attractive in that video. My god - the world must be full of pedophiles! The fact is that unless a girl has a serious health issue, much before their late teens - all girls will look like women not children. It is down to a matter of personal taste as to whether you find a large age difference unpleasant or not - but it is not an illness to find young women attractive when you are older. I don't believe you suddenly start finding the Golden Girls horny when you are 60 as apposed to the latest young fluff parading around MTV with her arse hanging out.

Kris - a last though for you - if we all tried to impose our own values by kicking the shit out of someone then society would have some serious problems!

steve says:

CHAV=council housing association vermin---council housed and violent-council house alcoholic violent.

Just a few names I have heard for what I used to call "burberry apes" or "baseball capped estate pikeys"

Take my word for it,they are arriving in Thailand in larger numbers than ever before. You can't move for football shirted, tattoed, English brain donors sometimes. BTW the female of the species "baby producing benefit sponge" is far worse than the male--usually egging on the brainless knuckle dragger. They should be sterilised after brat 1. Just proves that the handouts from honest peoples taxes are far too big. These untermenschen are almost encouraged to breed like flies. Thanks for spending my taxes wisely Bliar! Extermination is the only way.

philH says:

Steve, like your style, but why wait until brat #1? Sterilise the bastards in the womb, Chavs only turn out more chavs and, as with all single cell life forms, can start multiplying within hours of birth.

As for the UK governments tax based charity handout schemes this is where I start spitting blood and smashing inanimate objects. I was a lifelong Labour supporter but now shun politics and all that goes with it including taxes. If the UK had the same social security setup as LOS (i.e. none) none of the sponging bastards would be able to get to Thailand.

EXTERMINATE!

M says:

Kris-

I hold a similar apperance as you though not as built and am 30 years old. I enjoy going out with my mates to the bars and grasping on to the youngest things I can get my hands on.

Does it make a difference that I am 30 years younger then the bloke you beat up? If you saw me in that bar grabbing the same girl under the same circumstances would you have taken me out to the soi for a talk as well?

Paddy O'Ffialle says:

Picking up on JD's excellent post, the story of Traci Lords comes to mind.

For younger readers, Traci was one of the biggest porn stars of the 80's. After appearing as a Hustler centrefold she went into porn movies. Because she was beautiful with big natural tits and incredibly hot, she soon became a major star. She did so well that after a few years she was able to set up her own production company and thereby make even more money from her porn career.

At this point the news broke that Traci had only been fifteen years old when she started in porn movies. She had used fake id to get into the business, fake id that was good enough for the US government to issue her a passport!

Immediately all the back catalogue of Traci's movies became kiddie porn and had to be pulled from the shelves. The only source of movies featuring Traci was her own company!

And of course, all those who had so enjoyed her early movies now were paedophiles!

JD says:

Here's another way of looking at the large age difference you often see between foreign men and their local Thai female companions: The girls often choose to start working the older guys. There's millions of different Thai girls working in or partying in the Thai tourist areas. Some girls are undoubtedly looking for longer-term companions to provide emotional and financial support, but many have either settled for, or are mainly looking to sell sex. For many of these girls, it makes much greater sense to approach the older guys. If I put myself in these girls shoes, if I were to suddenly give up my career and turn to international man-whoring, I know for sure what type of women I would target. You'd have to choose a place where there were plenty of women with money, looking for fun. Let's say for example one of the up market casinos on the Las Vegas strip. In this situation, it would feel pretty audacious for me to start working beautiful young girls with the expectation that they pay for sex with me! A lot of girls seem to think I'm good-looking and I do pretty well with the opposite sex, but my success rate with attractive young girls is probably well below 50% and that is when I'm offering sex for free! My ideal target would be an average looking but well kept businesswoman in her late thirties to late forties. I'd position myself at a table next to them, lay on the charm and compliments so thick it makes the nearby eavesdroppers feel nauseous, then quietly drop the hint that a trip up to her room would be nice but include a small exchange of money. She's much more likely to be dragging me up to her hotel suite for a two hundred dollar romp than a fit young girl. It's the same for the Thai girls. By offering a service for a certain price, you have to offer it to someone who cannot readily get that same service for free. I'm not saying all the older guys couldn't charm the pants off young girls for free, but why bother with all the knock-backs when there's a surefire thing available for two thousand Baht.

Whether or not you agree with prostitution, if we all start kicking the shit out of older guys because they are talking to young bargirls, we are in effect beating up the girls’ best, most reliable customers! I’m not sure Kris and his like would be become revered across the land for their bravery and heroism as he seems to suggest!

Pissed Off says:

Just one thing you piece of shit Chris or whoever you say you are - if you really did do what you stated, I really would like a chance to give you a test of my own. Being 45 years old I am sure you would give it a good thought..c'mon what do you say? Any dark small Soi would be fine you cowardly shit head. After over 20 years of Police service & same years of weapons & martial art training I wanna make you "feel" the pain..slowly..I can hear you screaming for your Mamma now..you & all the bozos of your mold I have no hesitation in fucking you up permanently..always remember - be careful on who you pick on - you may get much much more than what you ever thought possible..

Derukugi says:

There is probably something to be said for Karma. When our self-declared hero Kris is old and wiser than now, some young punk will take it upon him and drag him into a dirt soi.
What goes around comes around.
Something to look forward to, Kris!

breakshead says:

Kris!!! Fuck me!!! you loser!!!! Fact of the matter is the old fucker got laid and you didn't. Jesus fucking H on a bike. It's a fucking doddle to get a fuck in Thailand. Hang your head in shame and one other thing i have noticed Scandinavians are shit at holding there ale. Drink tea son and shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!! and go have a Wank or wonk as some have said on here.

philH says:

If it aint bad enough chavs getting out of their prison I saw another representative of low life British "manhhod" the other day.

Sitting outside my favourite Saturday afternoon watering hole in downtown KL people watching I caught a fleeting glance of a hoody! It disappeared into the crowd so I wasn't able to check whether it was a local or an imported version but it was definately a hoody.

So you ask, what the hell has it got to do with Bangkok? Well if hoodies have made it to KL, Bangkok is vulnerable. Coming soon to a shopping mall near you, THE HOODIES!

For those of you that don't know what a hoody is I'll attempt to explain.

A hoody is a pathetic, cringing little low life with the mental ability of a retarded amoeba. They wear loose fitting jacket style tops with large hoods that are constantly pulled up. Their habitat is shopping malls where they congregate in gangs and, bouyed by safety in numbers, they threaten old age pensioners, people in wheel chairs, kids below the age of five and little dogs. To anyone else they are more of a nuisance than a threat, a bit like panhandlers.

"Know your enemy" stamp on a hoody today.

Keith Hancock says:

This obviously retarded violent individual is just one of the reasons why I'm thinking of leaving England for a more peaceful life in Thailand. Please don't tell me that they arriving over there as well. Incidentally to the Aussie guy who asked what a chav is...well apart from being a thick twat from Essex, it stands for Council House And Violent...I think Kris (sic) proved the point.

anonymous says:

Way to go Chris!!!! Give those pathetic lonely old whoring farts a right good kicking!!!!

Peter says:

This brutal and as I believe jealous little shitscandinavian deserves only despise!

Kay says:

okaaaaaay David,
I don't expect you to reply to my comment before this but this time I really want to know. It's already half past two AM in the morning and I'm too tired to read all teh comments above me which may have already addressed the question I'm going to raise:

why would a chav move to Thailand? like, seriously, when they have somewhere closer, like Cyprus, Tenerife, Spain? or shagging chavettes?

Second of all, how/where did they get the money? or is the Thai currency so cheap that a month or two flipping burgers at a local MaccyD's would let them live comfortably in thailand?

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Hi Kay

I don't know. Perhaps you should address your question to a chav.

Regards
David

peter says:

Dyed Blonde hair scrapped back with lashing of grease,

This is known in the U.K.as " The council house face lift"