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March 12 2007

Nana Plaza bible-bashers hoodwink BBC's Kate McGeown

nana plaza

Helpless child sex-slaves make for a great story but how does an ambitious BBC foreign correspondent track down these mythical creatures in Nana Plaza amongst a fun-loving army of Anna Nichole Smith wannabes?

Most sensation-seeking journalists would just shag a few prostitutes and make something up but, to add weight to her clichéd portrayal of Nana Plaza as Bangkok's very own Heart of Darkness, the BBC's Kate McGeown wanted nothing less than a firsthand account.

A regular at Bangkok's Foreign Correspondents Club (FCC), Kate McGeown has been knocking around Asia for years and knows perfectly well that Nana Plaza is just a run-of-the-mill bunch of girly bars. Her male colleagues regard the place as a second home.

She could have interviewed just about anyone sitting at the FCC bar or simply walked across the road to investigate the place for herself but, instead, McGeown bases her exposé on the unchallenged testimony of a PR woman in the paid employment of a bunch of donation-seeking religious wackos.

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Is this just a typical example of the lazy and incompetent Thailand reporting that we've come to expect or is Kate McGeown deliberately trying to mislead her readers?

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6360603.stm

The interviewee, Khun Pim, is a needy but timid single mum who failed to thrive in Nana Plaza's lucrative but highly competitive sex trade so she joined a religious cult instead. You know that the bible-bashers are pulling her strings but, despite all this, she comes across as being honest and straightforward.

Pim disliked her job but she was neither coerced nor abused during her time at Nana Plaza. McGeown must have been terribly disappointed. Even though she'd compromised her journalistic integrity by seeking out the most tainted source imaginable, all she got in return was a mundane tale about a crazy Japanese bloke who once followed Pim down the street.

McGeown continues this futile line of enquiry with a question that must have gone something along the lines of "but surely one of your friends was gang-raped?"

My friend once went with a guy to his hotel room, and found lots of other men there too. She wouldn't tell me what happened after that, but she was shaking for a long time when she got back home.

The ambiguity of this answer is perfect and the details are impossibly tantalising. She implies that a gang rape occurred without even mentioning it. I'm having a tough time believing that this masterpiece of melodramatic subtlety came direct from the mouth of a former bargirl.

McGeown also attributes this dubious quote to Khun Pim.

Many customers prefer children or young girls.

When the inevitable prompting came about "customers who like 'em young" Khun Pim might well have said "many customer like young girl" because "young girl" is a bargirl expression meaning any woman under 25 but I find it hard to believe that she ever said "many customers prefer children" because it simply isn't true and the go-go bars of Nana Plaza don't employ any.

My suspicion is that McGeown took a few liberties with the Thai/English translation in order to equate paid sex with paedophilia - a debating technique commonly employed by farang women with an axe to grind.

If I were McGeown's editor, I'd insist on reviewing her "paedophile paradise" interview tape. The BBC's reputation for fair and unbiased reporting wasn't built on crude sensationalism and fabrication.

That job belongs to Fox News.

Unless the BBC conducts an internal enquiry, we'll never know what Khun Pim really said to Kate McGeown but we can investigate the motives of the religious maniacs who brought them together.

McGeown gives them a generous plug in her article.

A friend of mine told me about Nightlight [a Christian charity offering training and employment for former sex workers, through a jewellery-making business]. Since I've started working there, my life is so much better.

Nightlight is affiliated to the Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada but its head office is located in Los Angeles. In Bangkok, it hides behind the anonymity of a PO box.

The group's website paints a benevolent picture of their tireless work improving the lives of the "women and children working in the bar areas of Nana/Sukhumvit" but the final item in each list of good works reveals their true agenda.

To introduce women and children to the love and mercy of Jesus Christ, to disciple them into a strong faith as people who will then impact their communities.

In other words, they're here to convert the savages.

Pentecostals regard the Bible as a statement of fact but what sets them apart from other Evangelical Christians is the belief that that the Holy Spirit possesses their converts upon baptism, resulting in supernatural phenomena such as speaking in tongues, prophecy, miraculous healings and signs from God. Their religion owes as much to Voodoo as it does to Christianity.

Nightlight's February newsletter boasts:

Aye, who was diagnosed with lung cancer was prayed for and now her diagnosis has changed to asthma.

It's a miracle! Why don't you write a story about that, Kate, or do you only quote these charlatans when their horseshit reinforces your own prejudices?

(Spotted by Dicer)

Footnote

Kate McGeown is actually a first rate journalist and I'm sure she knew perfectly well that the interview she conducted and the article derived from it was a complete crock. My headline was probably too kind to her. She wasn't hoodwinked at all.

Just to prove it, here's an excellent article that she wrote about illicit trade on the Thai-Burma border.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6430515.stm

Notice how sceptical she is about her principal interviewee's answers.

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Readers' comments

Common Sense says:

What a crock of shit. This is pure plagiarism. I know damned well I read this same interview a few months ago. I think it might have been posted as a link to Mango Sauce, but I may have got to this from another Thailand based website. I don't visit many so I'm sure I can track it down unless it's buried somewhere in a thread Dicer has made a post on. I'm fairly sure the original link was on Mango though.

I think this would be a great piece for that Discovery Channel show Myth Busters to investigate.

KTB says:

Other BBC Drongos....

Geeta Guru Murthy to Kylie Morris on BBC channel :-

Q. And why do you think Thaksin won the
recent election?

A. Erm,I think the Thais were impressed
with the way he handled the Tsunami
Disaster.

Kylie has since decamped to CNN,where I'm sure her talents will be well used.
Now, if only that dopey cunt, Jonathan Head,would follow her.

Paddy O'Ffialle says:

Are these bible-bashers the same ones I sometimes see preaching damnation and hellfire at the entrance to the Plaza? Christ, I wish they'd just get out of the bloody way.

Telemachus says:

Yeah, Yeah this is the chick that makes the beads and necklaces and shit!

bulb says:

" Aye, who was diagnosed with lung cancer was prayed for and now her diagnosis has changed to asthma."

" Bulb , who was diagnosed with bancruptcy was prayed for and now his diagnosis has changed to temporary shortage of funds. "

I have seen Jesus ( Soi 4 / corner Sukh )

bulb

Isaac says:

"God must be dead if you're still alive."
Jello Biafra

Matt says:

Why has she written that story as if it's anything new? It's very one-sided.

Dicer says:

These are the other two articles she recently did on the plight of the Karen people and medical services.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/
6407305.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/
6418645.stm

I was a tad skeptical about the illicit trade article but these two are even better, well informed and detailed. The BBC specifically got her to do a series of articles involving Burma for its Burma programs i.e. the BBC has a dedicated Burma service. However, the Christers Save Nana Hookers article was written to fill a maladroit week for Ms McGowan it seems. Or it's something she wrote to knowingly feed into the dogmatic agenda of her associates.

The Christers are simply making money in Thailand. And the Pentecostals aka Light Beams For Jesus are a loony right version of the much mundane missionary deal found in Northern Thailand. I have a neighbour here who has two plush apartments, an SUV and several employees. He's officially retired but is in fact a minister of some loony church in Texas. Once a month he shows up in Chiang Rai to take photos and hand out cash to poor Akha villagers who are paid to sing the Lord's hymns, digest his words and pose in front of a makeshift church. Geezer heads back to CM to enjoy daily buffet at the Sheraton and other hotels not to mention the company of boyish looking university students who masquerade as his "translators". Is in fact openly contemptuous of both his disciples and the host country. Now the Thais don't care as long as he pays them and they even joke that the heathen hill tribes are probably better suited to conversion than to Buddhism. Geezer of course sends regular feedback to God's country in return for funds. He recently purchased two more condos. Easy pickings! Now wouldn't this guy be a great subject for a McGowan article? Or an addendum to How I Found God and Made Money.

It's common to see and hear the do-gooders run around and complain that they don't have enough leverage over the poo yai baan (big men) to help the girls in the hamlets. When they make it difficult for me to ignore them like in some social gatherings I've a habit of telling the old yanks - most of them third generation landowning American missionaries whose families came to Thailand at the time of Rama V - and some of the Brit do-gooders that they needn't bother; they can actually buy people here. As you can guess "buy people" is a very inflammatory term with its connotations of slavery and needy Christian guilt but buy people you can. If you want to help the girls into schools I say, just pay the family a competitive monthly rate similar if not exactly the same as what a local guy or a farang is willing to pay. You should see their rattled faces as yours truly punctures their cozy bubble. But the fact remains that the hill tribe girls, who are usually cute and end up in the money earning massage parlours of Rachada or Yoawarat by the time they are 18 don't care about any religion let alone the ideas of Christian missionary quacks. Many marry when 14, do the wifey and get bored by 16 by which time the option is Chiang Mai brothels or rental to some local bigwig until the long journey down south. All the missionaries have to do is join in the market and rent the girls then send them to school. The families usually don't care if they're educated or not. What they care about is the money. Now when you tell this rudimentary stuff to the old ladies they start huffing and puffing in their post modern be nice mode. Wull it's either that or all they are interested in is maintaining their own lifestyle.

This is in Northern Thailand where there is not as much money as there is in BKK. When the girls arrive in BKK and see the cash rolling in it's like a dream come true. From village open market to Gaysorn and MBK. Who on earth would believe that a girl working in a jewellery shop run by the quacks would make as much as what she could in Nana. Tell the Nana girls about sasaanaa chris (Christian religion) and all they'd think about is wan chritmaT (x-mas)....carry on about how He later died for our sins or demand to play the repentance number on the go-go stereo... even if you, the Twice Born Christer offer them cash I bet they'd prefer the cola and to move on to the next fella who appears more willing to smile and log the 2000 notes. Money is the most tangible sign of God's love is it not? And sexual activity the route travelled for the hooker to achieve that love. Whaddaya say Kate?

fbuom says:

If this is the article I saw a couple of days ago, Pim was also alleged to have made some remarks about the kind of girl the BGs were supposed to recruit from their home areas.

I don't doubt there are bar owners in Bangkok that would go that far, but in Nana Plaza? Unbelievable! Same for Patpong or Cowboy or any other well known area.

My guess? The lady j. had a deadline, found a news release and followed up on it.

fbuom

kwai mai sabai says:

Isaac,
I laughed so hard my teeth fell out.
I wonder if Dicer ever met the Dead Kennedy when he was in Colorado - when he was attending Columbine High School.

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

Bashing my bishop is about as close as l've came to religion.

PS. by the way l#ve been banned from bangerschat.org.
if you wonkers wanna get a petititon going, l's wont stop ya.

Thaxo.

jimmyboy says:

oi Thaxo put a word in for me with the obese useless brownosing plebs that control bangerschat, or there ll be no pissflap being sent down to you.

bkkred says:

A non story.Girl goes to Bkk gets a job in a go-go,finds she does'nt like it and leaves.An enormous,24 carat so what?Must have been a slow news day.

SPQR_US says:

I hate Kate and her ilk.

There is definitely a feminazi bias at work in the west and Kate feeds off of it.

As for FOX news they bash Thailand too but don't carry water for the feminazis like the BBC or CNN or the rest of western yellow journalists.

Note that the bitch didn't put her email on this scribble either.

Warning: the following is a petty rant:

I just got back from LOS myself. Went with a buddy for the 1st time. He spends most of his time in serial monogamy but starts fucking around on his GF's as soon as he can but has for years pretty much held up what Kate is saying here as the truth delivered straight from the mouth of God himself.

He's one of the most moralistic and pompous people I know. Up until now I would have just said he was a wind bag but seeing him in action in LOS pissed me off a little.

I thought bringing him to LOS for a little reality therapy would help but it didn't. For years he's decried everyone elses pilgramages to the Mecca of LOS.

He partook of the nectar of Thai P4P but then rationalized away that he really didn't do it and blamed me as being some sort of devilish tempter. He also made me promise not to reveal his cavorting with prostitutes, typical isn't it? He claims that he got past Catholic school too by the way...

For example I'm sure Kate is shagging whomever she pleases without a 2nd thought but climbs up onto the stage and decries the same.

Back to my friend. I felt that a tour in Thailand would cut down on his moralising. For example I bought him a special oily massage right after we got there in that place next to the Majestic (on the left as you face the front door) just around the corner from Nana. The lady looked to be in her 20's but was closer to 40. Anyway he gets off I the whole place could hear it. He was happy for about a few days and then attacks me over a beer.

He says: " Man you should have never have pulled that shit with me. Some people who you could have done that to (bought him a hooker) would have gotten mad and walked out and have flown back to the states!"

I just looked at him and thought; "Man I fucked up taking this guy, I wish he would get his lard ass on a plane and shut the F--- up."

So that's what I told him. In keeping with hypocrisy though he continued to screw around and then moralize. He also kept asking me to introduce him to "nice Thai women". I just ignored him for the most part but explained that he knew so little of the culture that I didn't want to risk losing face with my Thai friends families if he said or did anything weird. So that left him the BGs and massage ladies. He kept up his moralizing but somehow convinced himself that if I "introduced" him somehow it wasn't really P4P! Guess what that would have made me??? Fuck!

Needless to say I left him to his own devices after that. Eventually he got the message and stopped his little charade.

The moral of the story is that I think my friend is essentially what these NGO pricks are. They loose all sight of reality and their own masculinity hanging around these fat western harpies trying to get laid. I mean if you want to lay some bad tempered farang chick you have to sit around and agree with her for what seems like eons. Kate probably is one of them. They have this weird skewed world view wherein they see their sloppy fat forms as somehow radiating sexual energy irresistible to men and their own sexual expression is accompanied by dancing unicorns and pixies floating around this "magical" experience.

For me I just can't get past how they smell like that sweaty fat guy they made me wrestle in my 8th grade gym class...

So my question to all of you, this League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, is this; How should I handle my friend's BS in the future?

Should I out the guy to all of the rest of our mutual friends that he is full of S--t or is there another way to reach him and have him "get real"? I do care about him but he has really pissed me off with this "Kate" stand he's taken. Please let me know what you think.

Prufrock says:

SPQR_US: Take it to the rest of your buddies in the US. . . . especially the ones who've been here. Tell them what a prudish, hypocritical bore your buddy turned out to be.

BTW your post was not a rant as far as I was concerned. You were trying to help us to understand that your "buddy" had pissed you off and, lets be honest here, ruined your fucking trip and denigrated your idea of fun and games in LOS.

This guy is a major prick. He's competing with you. Like guys I know who cruise the malls with "Uni chicks" the troll on the web.
They buy them stuff and running back to their buddies with stories of shagging a nice Thai chick.
"She wasn't on the game"
A coupla courses at Ramkamhaeng You-ni-veh-si-TEE does not a Uni gal make. They can "wear the black and white" if they want, but there's a whole new breed of whores who know the play there.
Gimme a seasoned, friendly whore any day over one of these whiny, self-focussed money burners WITH A CELL PHONE ROSTER THAT GOES INTO THE HUNDREDS.

Your post took more than the few words some of these these precious "sound bite artists" parcel out as a preview to a scintillating wit we never get to see.
No problem for me.
THANKS FOR THE EFFORT.

Rick says:

"Money is the most tangible sign of God's love is it not? And sexual activity the route travelled for the hooker to achieve that love."

beautifully put Dicer. I hope someone delivers this message to Kate. She would probably come knocking at your door. Is she shaggable?

Jeff Blosser says:

Nobody mentioned the situation of the two New Zealand guys in Cambodia who got 20 years in prison on the statments of 4 girls made in court. Six months after the conviction the families of the 4 girls went back to court to "tell the truth". It seems that they were promised 10,000 USD each for the girls testimony but were never paid anything. After 6 months of trying to get the money out of the NGO they wanted to go back to court and tell their story.

It seems to me that the NGO's are starting to try and buy false testimony in order to get a conviction so they can continue to recieve funding to continue their "work".

I wonder whatever hapened to those poor guys.

Kenn says:

My current Venezuelan girlfriend was diagnosed with Cancer, she is a Baptist, her whole family and friends and even their church prayed for her,
And when she went back to the doctor………..she still had fricking cancer, how about that

What are these high and mighty holy roller trying to boast about ; I guess if you are a non- Pentecostals you are doomed to hell, so they must convert all Pagans;

And then these news agencies buy into this crap of these special interest groups; and now they want us to believe that their are whole hoards of pedophiles lurking around in the Thai nightlife;
Just because people generally say they want young girls ,, the news media and their Christian interest groups want twist it around to fit what ever they want … and bam .......young girls goes from being around twenty too being frigging toddles , now that abuse on their so called liberal writing skills ;
I am surprised that they just don’t say that’s where Gary Glitter got his start and do a whole special on him and not even mention Cambodia or Vietnam;

Yes these things do happen, but it is not just a problem in Thailand; it even happens in the North America, South America, Europe, Africa and Australia not just Asia,
When they do these stories, instead of using a perversion of the truth why don’t they give the real fact ………..oh yea that’s not what sells


What,,,, since Anna Nichole Smith isn’t a big enough story right now,, so they have to dredge up the same propaganda to save the Christian interest Groups in Thailand and keep digging up the same dead horse to beat it; call the aspca already, it is a dead, they need to find a real story to report not some lame allegation an allege News Woman so called uncovered and isn’t a biased interest

This story has been written and rewritten so many damn times already; we have all seen these reports, and they never really portray the truth

I agree with Common Sense, this would be perfect for Myth Busters or possible resurrect Unsolved Mysteries LOL


If you don’t have a dead body or even a crime scene, its pretty hard to prove their was a crime,

I do believe in freedom of speech but these News Post are getting annoying, it just the same un-factional crap being repeated

Andy says:

Obviously a slow news day when that article was knocked up. "Hmm,... Fuck all to write about today.... Lets do a trite prostitution piece about Bangkok to fill a few columns....." Piece of piss.

I think Kate just knocked out this piece and then the horoscopes before dashing off to lunch.

echobeach says:

Still how many of us have changed a work report to get out on the piss on time… Maybe the lovely Kate did that as well..

Journos seem to follow a predictable pattern

The first couple of years they believe in truth, justice, morals, values.. and report accordingly

The next couple of years they will have a dinner date to get a hot tip without doing the research because of deadlines..

The next couple of years they will shag for a story..

And after that they would have double penetration with the devil for a story on god..

Why research properly when you can get what you need by doing as little as possible!

Isaac says:

sabai, sabai kwai mai
I don't know if that makes sense, nor do I care.
Anyway...
Cheers!

fauxie says:

I liked what prufrock said:

'A coupla courses at Ramkamhaeng You-ni-veh-si-TEE does not a Uni gal make. They can "wear the black and white" if they want, but there's a whole new breed of whores who know the play there.
Gimme a seasoned, friendly whore any day over one of these whiny, self-focussed money burners WITH A CELL PHONE ROSTER THAT GOES INTO THE HUNDREDS.'

You're right, it's an evolution in whoring, but the traditional street corner hooker and bargirl are still going strong.

I can't say I've been with either a traditional prostitute or a cell-phone fixated myspace era one, but can someone confirm whether the difference is indeed in whether you screw or get screwed?

Prufrock says:

echobeach: Just follow the money or the power or the influence line on any story. That "laziness line " works as well.
Journos have to suck up to something or they are not "asked back." NY/Wash media corps anyone? With some notable exceptions : Blowmonkeys and toilet traders ALL. To a person.
Who'd be surprised to learn that "Kate in a Crate" had been sucked up to or had sucked up. Or that she drops an affectionate "Pack of tossers" post on this board from time to time.
There is a new tradition of whoring rimming and blowing in the world's second oldest profession. The real issue in Kate's story is just what consensus is she inflating and which interest group is she tonguing.
Real journalism died out with Sy Hersch and Robert Fisk. Now we get their silly kids ( I'mah filmmmm-mmmaikuhr?-types) roaming around Nana and the border towns looking for action.
Like the pros, they HAVTA come back with SOMETHING even if its a doco on the selling of their own arses.
How many FCCT brethren does Kate know who absolutely DO NOT want to fuck her ond/or have ex-pro wives/girlfriends???

Johnh101 says:

There is no way that the words quoted in that article were spoken by a poor, uneducated Issan farmgirl.

Poetic Licence or just Bullshit ?

Prufrock says:

So true Joh101: Does Consensus license work for you? Pick the right consensus and you can say ANYTHING you want. WMD Anyone? AZT as wonder drug? Y2K?? You name it. Follow the money. Follow the lazy-line.

Feminazi licence. Where are the standards that the BBC was built on?? What's happened to THEM.

Dicer says:

Ahem ahem.

Fisk of course is one of the very few WASP journalists who can speak fluent unadultrated Arabic and also knows language variation between Mid East countries (a very difficult thing to do). Real learning and wisdom requires investment and he's had his in Lebanon for 30 years. It helps that he can actually write too. The problem with most North American journalists is that the companies they work for keep rotating them almost deliberately so that they do not hanker down and develop the network of friends and contacts needed for quality independent journalism. And hence why they always run to govt bodies and embassies to corroborate stories. Also in the third world you have the inevitable arrogance of the Westerner who thinks he knows it all and need not deal with the faceless throngs of local scums and their double dutch language. So why bother research amongst filthy locals when one can wag chins with fellow foreigners in the clubs and bars.

Here is a great article by Fisk about "Hotel Room Journalism"

http://www.robert-fisk.com/articles450.htm

And on another occasion:-

"Well this is the same problem that's existed all along with American journalism. And that is this osmotic, parasitic relationship between the press or journalists, in general, and power, where to criticize your country's foreign policy, especially when it's war, is seen as a form of unpatriotic behavior and thus of potential subversion. Add to this the sort of American school of journalism, where everyone has to have 50% of each story, each side, which is ridiculous. The victims should be the subject of the story if we have any kind of compassion at all as human beings. When we reach this stage, I think, you know, journalism ceases to perform its function."

Actually I'd go as far as to say that there is better journalism coming out mainstream Israeli media than there is out of mainstream US media. The good journalism in the US is to be found in a certain variety of small independent papers.

Prufrock says:

Dicer: I, um, retired from hotel room journalism more years ago than I'd care to admit publicly. At more or less the dawn of its inception, I believe.

Editors back then had just started to raise the "Kurtz factor". . . . started to grumble that one might lose one's objectivity and perspective to the whims and vicissitudes of the locals.

"Why, yes Cameron, you cunt. I suppose you mean: Like Fisk? Like Hersch? Like Pilger?", I remember saying after I'd submitted a piece on the idea that Arafat's ugly mug and un-flossed teeth were going a long way to winning the propaganda war for the Israelis and then having this craven prick shove it back across the desk.

"But it's so much better than losing one's perspective to that pack of rag-pickers you hound for ad revenue, don't you think?.
"You're a racist, aren't you." says he.
It wasn't much of a stand but soon after, as they say, "That was all she wrote."

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

A Uni gal is a uni gal.

If you wake up with a dripping knob a few days later chances are she was the genuine artical.

Going bareback doing a Chula Uni thing is alot more risky than doing the same with a Nana gal white shirted top black skirted thing anyday. {fake Uni gal by the way for the slow one's here}

Trust me the real Uni things are almost all fully loaded with plenty of thai teenager STD's

Thaxo.

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

and l should know, mine glows in the dark.

Thaxo

Ian says:

Such biased drivel is only to be expected from a western female journalist.

The whale is angry, with very good reason.

I bet she didn't get so much action as a wolf whistle during her whole stay in the LOS.

All these whales want is to present us, the girls and the LOS in as bad a light as possible. And of course, nothing as unhelpful as the truth need be considered.

Prufrock says:

Remember, March 17 is St. Prufrock's Day. Get out there and have a plaid beer on me ;-)
Anyone I see having a plaid beer on the the afore-mentioned day gets his bar tab paid. By me!!!
Plaid beers all round !
Happy St. Prufrock's Day, everybody ;-)

kwai mai sabai says:

Piss off! Plaid beer is for Robbie Burns Day, you wee timorous beastie!

D333 says:

It's hard not to feel hacked off regarding such 'reports', but its not worth taking them too seriously-and not to many people do. 12 million people would not roll into Thailand for their annual vacation if they really believed that the 9 year old garland seller was giving blowjobs for 50 baht (wasn't that a Fox 'special'?)

I've known (liked and despised in equal measure) some BKK based journalists for a while. A career in journalism for the average reporter is never going to be a path to riches, so you have to concede they mostly started with a sense of integrity.

What i've also known for a while is that all the media, print and TV, 'prestigious' publications, Aunty Beeb and such like periodically make contact with BKK based journos to offer them a reporting commission. Most of the time that commission is some editor's own idea of what would make a scandalous/titillating story.

Prostitution/underage sex/lager louts in Pattaya are standard fare. There are times when ,especially freelancing, those kind of jobs are taken to pay the rent.

I have a feeling Ms. McGowens piece was probably editor driven although I could imagine her just taking a hot season breather and throwing out a piece of trash.

I do, however, have a sneaky admiration for some journalists. I had a friend who for years filed 'first hand'pieces to serious papers in the U.K and States concerning S.E.Asia (Thailand, Cambodia, Philippines etc)whilst never venturing any further than lower Sukhumvit.

Landmark Larry says:

Far from being timid, shy and scared, I've met some of the most confident and brazen money grabbers ever in NEP. One particularly attractive 'young girl', aged 24, insisted on sex every morning when I'd already paid her and just wanted to go for breakfast.

4naxnt says:

Kate is a self-confessing missionary.
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What Happened to Romania's Orphans, Kate McGeown, BBC News, July 8th, 2005: It is now more than 15 years since the world found out about the thousands of children locked away in Romania's state institutions. In the first of a series of articles, Kate McGeown - who volunteered in one such institution nine years ago - finds out what happened to them.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4629589.stm
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dingdongrb says:

Pru,

Do you even know WTF Y2K was? Or are you just rambling about something you read again?

Anonymous says:

dingdongrb says:

Pru,

Do you even know WTF Y2K was? Or are you just rambling about something you read again?

March 18, 2007 9:58 PM

Actually,I was going to ignore this post of yours intill I remembered that Y2K , (wait for it) was INVENTED IN CANADA :-)
Some fat cunt in Mississauga, Ont. , a tedious suburb of the city of Toronto (and if you measure urban density the same way they do in LA, North America's sixth largest urban center) invented the pseudo crisis Y2K.
I can't be bothered Googling the fellow's name and getting into a pissing match with you over THAT one as well but you can take this to the bank.

Now to get this straight, this lard-arsed 'puter putz didn't INVENT Y2K , like Sir Edmund Hilary didn't invent Mt. Everest, but he promoted the idea that whole world was gonna go for a shit at 12:00 midnight Jan 31,1999.
His reasons made sense to a subculture of 40 year old virgins who as IT mavens in EVERY office environment in the world ran around telling ANYONE who'd listen that the office needed to get this fat shit from Mississauga in to save their particular corner of the planet.
The fat shit made a fortune. 200 dollars of which I hope he used to get himself a blowjob in one of Toronto's Russian strip clubs near Pearson Airport.

Or maybe he ended up in Beijing and its you, I don't give a shit, really :-)
Of course, the whole thing turned out to be bullshit. The world didn't come to an end and horny virginal IT guys who had been eying the possibility of hero-hood as a result of their foresight
a) never got to suck the tits of that hot new chick in sales as they carried her out of the burning office environment and
b) lost their fucking jobs

Do you fit in there somewhere joebltzsfskrb?

Prufrock says:

dingledangl-rubyernutsn-pump: That Y2K post up there is mine. I suspect that you are just about the only one on this board who would not be able to put that together without some help.
In any case, I hope this has helped.
If I can be of further assistance, please try another inane poke.

Next time try something remotely of interest. Like how to spot shaved vs. trimmed, vs. unruly like a Chinese farm girl's (cTK) while the young lady is still in street clothes.
This is of utmost importance.
Prufroque

dingdongrb says:

Hey Pruie, settle down, I understand how overly sensitive you get when someone challenges your intellects over something other than literature and big words. But, it’s obvious of two things:

One is that you know nothing technically or else you would remove that ankle bracelet of yours so that way we all wouldn’t know you’re up in Rangsit slutting around with the local whores. The second I’m sorry to see that technically the only thing you know is the remote control on your TV or else you would be able to remove that parental lockout your folks placed for you and start watching the Discovery channel.

Keep it coming, I like the humor you provide. By the way, Beijing is not the only city in China. And please get out of that Internet Café in Patpong and back to your own PC so that David doesn’t have to keep posting your name as ‘anonymous’.

Canada only invented Molson and Crown Royal. They had nothing to do with the friggin telephone….. :-)

I have provided a link so that you might easily understand Y2K.

http://www.fema.gov/kids/y2k.htm

Eniac says:

Kate McGeown might regret writing that misleading article when she googles her own name. This page is #1 out of 17,000 entries.

Wombat says:

Y2K is old news but 200 bucks for a blow job? WTF

fbuom says:

Must have been a lead-in for this: Sex slavery widespread in England

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/6459369.stm

divad says:

that post about Y2K has a bug in it. I will fix it for 10K GBP + VAT.

kwai mai sabai says:

A Canadian also invented basketball. James Naismith. Another Canadian (Alex Bell) also invented the telephone. After that he invented the cellular phone and the Blackberry and the iPod.

Prufrock says:

dingledangleselfadministered bj:
The Thais word for you is "naa dan".
Have you NO shame, sir. Have you NO shame?

Common Sense says:

Children, children,
What is it with this childish obsession of changing each others names around. With all the talk of intellect and superiority you belittle yourself's by reverting back to the most basic of childish insults learned in pre-school. Grow the fuck up gents.

Prufrock says:

An American woman invented the vibrator:-)

dingdongrb says:

Pruie: Trolling for friends. Have you no shame?

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