Gold-digging Thai brides will get 50%

sniffer says:

Hm...tenous link to Thai affairs but a worthwhile post nontheless. The slogan of Cosmopolitan used to be "Having it all" and now we know what they meant.
I'm by no means anti-feminist, have never gone through a messy divorce and cringe when misogynsts make references to feminazis. However the double standards implicit in this ruling are breath-taking. Are women tough, strong, independent adults or are they helpless little ladies who need to be pampered and indulged at every oppotunity?
On the bright side,I suppose if you're gonna get hitched and then fleeced, you might as well do it with one of the sanook-mad babes available in East Asia rather than one of their hatched-faced, beer-bellied western sisters

Jasser says:

Another prime example of how those of you who live south of the Rio Tweed are incapable of distinguishing between Britain and England. These judgements were passed by the ENGLISH courts and, as Scotland has a separate legal system, applies only in England and Wales.

Beezer says:

Just encourages less marriages and more prostitution. Gents will be more cautious and more bastards will be born .

walking tree says:

Hmmm. No death penalty in Britain, eh? Since the bloke is already handed a life sentence, why not...? Might get out in a few for good behavior.

Ian says:

I have never married, and never intend to marry - well a western woman anyway. I have about £50K savings and a house worth about £200K.

You dumb western man hating gringers won't get as much as the steam off my shit. The money's mine.

One day I'll retire to Phuket, and get a model to take care of me. And not some fat, middle aged cellulite sow with saggy tits and black heads on her wrinkly arse. But hey, dream on, maybe you really will meet some disco dancing mincer with a fat wallet, but I don't hold out to much hope.

You,ve left it all far too late, and laughably, you're still trying to play a hand you lost 30 years ago. Ha ha ha.

Landmark Larry says:

Sadly there are still many men in the UK who will do almost anything not to be alone. They will even marry a 50 year old minger. Personally I'd rather go to prison than part with my hard earned dosh to a money grabbing minging hypocrite. I've even managed to turn the tables on my last 2 English girlfriends and am about 6 grand better off now..

Eyal says:

I wonder if this applies to De Facto (civil partnership?) relationships as well, removing even the need to get the guy to sign anything.

Dana says:

Real men don't marry women; they get other men to marry women. All legislation is written by the weak. The strong don't need rules or limits or parameters. They simply predate and copulate. Only the weak stand up in a public forum and announce to the world that they are signing a lifetime one sided contract; idiots who should be kept from breeding and then complain that they got predated upon by the strong (women). If you are weak just shut up. Don't come to me for sympathy. You smiled at the future inlaws, and you told her you loved cats, and you gave her money to buy a pink shower curtain, and you rushed out into the night to get her medicine (not tonight dear I don't feel well), and you walked into the church unaided. You walked into the jaws of hell on earth and now you are surprised that the teeth are sharp? Oh, and one more thing; you found time in your busy pre and post marriage days to judge me because I go to Thailand to hold the hands of smilers. So screw you.

Squeezebox Hilton says:

Just to give balance to the subject of divorce I'd like to tell of my experiences. I was separated from one marriage and asked my ex in England if she would divorce me. She said, "All right if you pay the solicitor." I did this and paid about £250.00 and thecourt ruled that I was to pay£150.00 a month thereafter. I believe one of our two children was still a minor at that time. After I remarried and my new wife was expecting a child my ex agreed that she no longer needed the £150.00 a month, so we applied to the court and the payment was stopped with their approval. Later my ex took up with another man with whom she got on well. She sold the house and sent me £10,000.00 to help me set up my new home. She did this on a purely voluntary basis. Somehow I appear to have come through the minefield unscathed. Everybody has bad luck, but I prefer to dwell upon the episodes of good luck that have befallen me from time to time. I hope others may have like experiences.

dave wattana says:

the guy paying £250,000 for life must be able to hire a hit man for a lot less. mind you having been married to a thai for 14 years i know she would leave me with fuck all if we divorced.

Ogden says:

Here is some advice for any poor sods in the UK where divorce is looming.

Bankrupcy can provide some relief, but only if you have sufficient time to plan for it, and can 'dispose' of your assets well before the creditors (including your ex wife and her solicitors) come hammering at your door. Starting early is the key, and getting good proffessional advice advice is crucial too. The Citizens Advice Bureau in the UK is brilliant for this.

Visit Thailand (or any other country that tickles your fancy) before your divorce and open a bank account to help with your asset 'disposal' activities. Enlist the help of trusted friends and/or partners too to 'mind' things for you for a while. This is not without risk. Note that your newly found ex-bargirl friend may not be the best bet for this kind of help.

Buy your plane ticket in advance of the bankruptcy using one of your soon to be useless credit cards. Leave the UK for about two to three weeks after your bankruptcy.

My understanding is that the juristiction of UK family courts does not extend to Thailand, but that their court orders can be applied retrospectively if you choose to return.

This message will self destruct in ten seconds........

Grunter says:

Am I alone here?

I have a wife who's British, intelligent and beautiful. Unlike an ornamental Asian fuckpiece, she can actually converse with me, and make me piss myself heartily at shared cultural observations which can only be enjoyed by those in the know. If I say something she doesn't hear or understand, she will say "pardon?" and not just giggle at me and squeeze my hand. When she is not around, I actually miss her -- even in the moments just after I've finished my wank. She can talk about politics, sport or soap operas, has read everything from Dickens to Dan Brown, and sucks my cock with a charming tenderness, ending with an endearing flourish as she wipes the spunk from her lips with my own shirt tails. She also speaks English properly, can position an apostrophe like a bastard, doesn't talk in infinitives and remembers that "MacDonald's" does actually have an "s" on the end.

Yesterday my wife and son and I went to a garden party with some friends and their familes. Although there wasn't any cock sucking (not that I witnessed, but they do have a big garden), it was warm, calm and peaceful, there was no posturing, everyone trusted each other implicitly -- since we are friends -- and it was a moment of genuine, blissful peace.

It seems there's a difference between actually being happy and telling people how happy you are.

Ian says:

Yep Grunter, quite alone.
I wouldn't stick my cock in a British woman for a gold clock. What an awful thought, more importantly, what a horrid sight.

A pussy like a burst mattress....yuk

For me its a beautiful thai moustache every time..

hentaigaijin says:

Sounds like a bit of a mouthy bitch if you ask me.

BigJohnson says:

It seems like (as noted above) the fault is not with the women, but the law. This is a great example of a few things, it seems to me. First, it shows clearly how a reasonable sounding law (split the joint assets fairly) can be twisted by a horribly biased implementation into something close to pure evil.

Secondly, it throws a spotlight on the eternal question: what is the government doing in the love-sanctioning business anyway?

Oh, finally, to the guy who's married to the perfect cock-sucking wife - does she have a sister?

OXO says:

Oh gunter, dream on……in answer to your question “am I alone hear”? The answer would be yes if anyone actually believed you.
You seem to know a great deal about Asian women for one Sooooo happy with their farrang. Thank you for the detailed description of how your wife sucks you off—also how she can pronounce McDonalds perfectly,---a really difficult word for a British women, how does she do in a second, or third language, I am sure she has mastered them, I mean if an Asian fuckpiece with just a few years schooling can do it, your wife must be a shoo in as a linguistic , in between wiping her lips on your shirt tail.
OXO

Lewis says:

Grunter,
Wow, what a wife! I'm so impressed that she can "talk about politics" and that she's "read everything from Dickens to Dan Brown." And she can share "cultural observations" with us on a daily basis? Right, that's exactly the sort of dream wife we males all ache and pine for, from the day we were born. Yes, in the end, that's what we all desire in our relationships: "Shared cultural observations."

Um, right. I seriously doubt your Western whale is able to satisfy you sexually in comparison to her lovely counterparts here in Thailand (give it go and compare), and I doubt that she is as comfortable with her femininity as the Thai girls are, as well.

In fact, I'm willing to bet she spends half her life trying to be more male, like most Western women.

Wow, sounds like the perfect wife to me! Like most Western males, you've obviously been culturally programmed to seek whatever obese female mediocrity that's available at the moment. Way to go!

Lewis

PS: It's "McDonald's," not "MacDonald's".

Miro says:

Could't have said it better than OXO and Lewis. Nothing better than a good talk about politics. But for some reason I do enjoy the hand squeezing and giggling a little more. Call me simple

Ian says:

We ought to get around to Gunters pad right away. Seems to me, Gunters dating a spell - witch, or maybe she's slipping mind bending drugs into his ovaltine.

Wake up dude. Smell the flowers. Take her swimming. Don't forget to stand well back when Hornblower, Drake or whoever, harpoons the whale... You'll never get those blubber stains off your jeans.....

Grunter says:

Gents, you seem to have rather missed the point.

Lewis - I never suggested that my wife is as good between the sheets as your slinky, little-oiled little hunny bunny. But I wouldn't swap for the world. It would be such a down-trade.

The point was that I quite enjoy being with a companion who can stimulate more than the end of my cock. I enjoy being able to laugh with her, not at her. I enjoy being with family. We have a fucking good time. Better, dare I suggest, than you do. But that's the whole crux of it, isn't it?

I put it to you that a solid circle of family and mixed friends of similar ability and education is more rewarding than boozing and humping every night. (Which is fun for a while - of course I have done it, which is why I enjoy this site.)

But it gnaws at you like a cancer after a while... You know it.

Tanai Kwai says:

"But it gnaws at you like a cancer after a while... You know it."

I was thinking the same thing about you. You seem to be suffering a great deal. Your longing for a return to beauty, to excitement, and to occasionally feeling alive is palpable. Your forced smugness only serves to bring this painful syndrome into bold relief.

Unlike some here I account for the possibility that there are many farang men who are quite happy with their farang women, and vice-versa. But if my life depended on identifying such a relationship I'll be goddamned if I'd place my bet on you and your lady. While she sounds perfectly lovely, in a Camilla Parker Bowles sort of idiom, she's not the problem, is she? You're the one with the cancerous gnawing in the crotch.* And that -- not merely a detached interest in a life you once led -- is exactly why you are here.

TK
(winky)

*"Crotch-gnaw," as it's known in the backstreets of depressing English villages. Symptoms include a compulsion to shit all over anyone who might be enjoying themselves and a tendency to describe Thai women as giggling monkeys, much to the delight of the wife and her in-laws.

OXO says:

Yes gunter I can feel the cancer gnawing away at me now……oh how I yearn for the company of my ex wife’s in laws, and the stimulating garden parties that you attend.
I really do think after reading your second post, that’s it is you who are living the lie gunter. It’s sad, and my only advice for you is keep taking the medication; it will work in the end.
OXO

Grunter says:

I find it interesting - and somewhat disappointing - that you gentlemen descend so quickly into levels personal insult. Lewis, have you met my wife? She is not a whale, much to your dissatisfaction - she is poised, elegant, slim and beautiful, and I am proud of her. Attack me for saying this? Jesus, what qualities DO you value?

Christ, such vitriol! I had higher hopes of insights and snippets of personal experience. Instead, I get back such rage for daring to suggest that a loving relationship with an intelligent partner is a fool's game. Seems to have touched a nerve.

Gentlemen, I don't agree with you. The lifestyle you defend is fun, in the same way that cocaine is fun. But it's empty, shallow and vapid. And don't you question as to why do you place yourself in a third-world country where you can be top of the league? Why did you fail at home where others win? Do the aspects of failure about your life you need to defend and justify?

But it would be far more fun to have this out over a beer rather than fiddling with flowery english and posturing on a forum...

Dana says:

Jesus suffering Christ--Tanai Kwai is back. Temporarily brings every neuron in my head to a dead stop. Tanai Kwai is back. Jesus suffering Christ.

Errant says:

The good news for Grunter is that he’s not alone there, not if he’s sitting in McDonald’s talking about Dan Brown. Plenty of company. There may not be any spunk wiped from chins but whatever that is in those pies might do.

vacuous airhead says:

Grunter, you are as clever as a big book of clever things. Eloquent and Erudite, how do you find the time to sort your bird out? I have Yellow fever big time, my Mrs is also a British Citizen (that is what her passport says) but she originates from Isaan. She is intelligent, beautiful, compassionate and has an excellent sense of humour. If she does not understand something, she will squeeze my hand, giggle and ask me in English to explain further. Your Mrs sounds right dirty.

tracey emin says:

One of the few ways people like Gunter can feel good is by making other people feel bad.

Tanai Kwai says:

An all-too-familiar scenario:

"Reformed" farang treats the readership to a breathtakingly condescending lecture about the emptiness of life in Thailand and the superiority of his farang woman, what with her dainty fellatio technique, typically gorgeous 40 year-old Englishwoman's figure and sparkling intellect.*

Here, the discussion of damning mispronunciations by subhuman Thai fuckpieces provides the predictable component of repugnant cultural arrogance.

When this tool's hostility is merely reflected back the deluded individual exclaims, "Heavens me, what vitriol!" -- lamenting with disappointment that his attempts at thoughtful conversation were met with such an uncouth rebuff. (Amazing that such a person could expect to bask in the approval of people he came to insult, er, insightfully engage.)

More stupid generalizations follow, along with the parting "I must have struck a nerve!" and "Now that I've revealed myself to be an asshole I'll just leave, but not before mocking the forum as merely a place for flowery language and posturing."

Dana,

Taken aback by your presence as well. I trust you continue to do your bit to keep us all safe as the spokesman for Trojan condoms.

Tanai Kwai
(...)

*Holy Christ, I've just figured it out! "Grunter" is none other than Indian millionaire Arun Nayar!

http://www.rediff.com/movies/
2004/may/15lead1.htm

Dana says:

Attn: Mangosauce Brothers in Email

Tanai Kwai is back. Time to dig out the unused dictionary and thesaurus and english writing manuel. And do not forget the need for steroids and nutritionals and dig down deep philosophies because he never uses a word when 5000 are available. Presumably David will not allow him to run amuck like before but be warned--the western smarti-pants snake is in the wife's frog pen. So much for the power of prayer. Another lie.

Pity me--Pity us; we thought a stake had been driven into the heart of the beast and here on our screens is ego and pomposity and sniveling judgemental behavior of people he does not even know. Thank god in heaven I am modest and saintlike and moderate in my thoughts and actions. Acts as a compensating weight.

Rick says:

It didn't take long for the usual idiots to ruin (again) the comments section of mangosauce, did it?

Johnny says:

Well, back on the subject of divorce - let me give you guys a taste of what it's like.

When I got divorced several years ago, after 13 years of marriage our house was sold and assets divided up. We have two kids. Our assets came to £175,000. My wife got £135,000 and I got £40,000. OK so two kids involved, but fair?

I also have to pay maintenance that weighs in 20% of my Net salary per month for the next 10 years.

Further my wife is now moving to a £600,000 house with her new b/f and I will be subsidising their mortgage.

When I met my wife she didn't have a pot to piss in. I had my own house and substantial savings. My wife never worked once we had kids and only recently got a part-time job.

Despite this I have managed. Through sheer graft I have got myself a nice two bed house, about UKP10,000 in savings and a job I love. Most of all I have the freedom to live my life as I see fit and my divorce was worth every penny. Since my divorce I have been to Thailand twice and Malaysia once too. It's been a real revelation. I spend a lot of quality time with my kids. I actually have a life now.

A final word of warning. You do not need to be MARRIED to a women for her to have a substantial claim on your assets here in England. You simply need to live together.

Mr Thaky, bangerschat.org says:

wonkers all wonkers.

the only ring l ever want to see is that of one of my Chula gals.
Single and happy Thaky.

Errant says:

"[T]his disgraceful legal precedent was set by a pushy American PR woman seeking to rob her hapless British husband of five million pounds (about $10 million)."

Is this the "special relationship" heard so much of nowadays?

Andy says:

Grunter's missus sounds like a bit of alright! You up for a bit of "swinging", then m8? I'll bring the cocaine, and a couple of local bints. Up to you...

Peter HTT says:

Do you buy a cow if you would like to drink some milk???

Ian says:

I couldn't agree that it is Thai women who are the gold-diggers. This award surely belongs to Western women,Western politicians and liberals who have developed the technique to an artform.

Assadd Sensei says:

Too much hatred in the sometimes clever expressions. How about Buddhism, anyone? I don't know for sure how entertaining and lively it might be without all the animus, but I assume it might be somewhat comparable to a world in which war was a thing of the past -- less human suffering.

Anyway, what would you think about the proposition that many women raised other than in Thailand are just fine and wonderful -- even caucasian women? Sure, most of them may start out with an attitude problem if they did not understand who you are and what you are about. They do not have an easy ability to transcend their own culture through readily having enjoyable relationships that include sex with non-caucasian men -- it is too dangerous for a woman who does not in some way "need" it.

Many Thai and other women have been moved to see the alternative as dangerous or as a life sentence without their dreams coming true. Like a man's pocket rocket, they decide to use their little money-makers to gain an edge with men who might, just might, be the answer to these particular problems.

Could it be you were a Buddhist sympathizer without knowing it, who was also interested in foreign cultures but found the one closest to your heart to be that similar to Thailand's cultures? The sex is just something that always goes along between men and women ... and then some, of course.

You will come to share characteristics of those you are close to, including those you have romantic and even just mere sexual relations with. So, make the most of it, you will be changing each other and the changes both ways should be for the good.

Mr. Nobody says:

No, the fault is not with the women, not with the law, but with stupid British society who are letting their government pass unfair laws and get away with it. The British society should try to do what the French people do. REVOLT!! Revolt, revolt, revolt on the streets and would make any lawmaker in UK piss in their pants.
So NOOOO, the fault is not with the women, not with the law but with you stupid people who dont do shit about these problems and the UK government knows this.
Look at the French government, it's totally paralyzed by the angry people revolting on the streets. Why can't you do the same? French people are generally a pain in the ass but I admire for what they stand for and for what they believe. But you British do nothing. You are pathetic. You deserve what you get.

Mr.Nobody says:

As Americans says, if you dont stand up for what you believe and you dont vote then you DONT matter.

This is very true especially if you dont stand up against those ridiculous new laws passed regarding marriage and assets. If any UK lawmaker does not stand up for what you believe then remove him or her from the office and vote for somebody else.

Mother Terrisa says:

It’s not just half of your money they can get. They are entitled to 100% of your body in death!
A friend of mine recently died here in Thailand at a young age. He had got married to a local lady a few years ago but things quickly went pear shaped as she turned into a real bitch.
Shortly the inevitable happened and they split (not very amicably I may add).
As he believed she had little recourse in the law courts here, he didn’t do anything to make the split legal straight away. I can only guess he intended to make it legal later.
In the mean time he had settled down with another lady here and was very much in love.
When he died his family from the UK came to claim he body only to be told by the British Embassy the body belonged to his ‘wife’ who he fucking hated! Whether out of spite or to help claim pension rights etc his enemy turned up and took the body without even letting his family conduct a service for him.
Apparently her power can from the fact that he had made the marriage legal both here and in the UK.
I hate to think of what she did with his remains.

This story is very fucking true and I hope it stops similar happening to another guy.