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August 21 2006

Fox News: Bangkok is "Pedophile Paradise"

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Any man visiting Bangkok is a pedophile, according to Fox News, and Washington Square echoes to the screams of diseased five-year-old starving slave children being raped and beaten by thousands of salivating Western pedophiles given free passes by the money-grabbing Thai Government.

Fox News is notorious for telling lies but yesterday's report from Rudi Bakhtiar must surely be the ultimate in knuckle-dragging prejudice masquerading as a news story.

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Anchorman: If the suspect John Karr did rape and kill JonBenet Ramsey, as he says he did, it's not surprising where he fled to. He was busted in Bangkok, a place some people call a pedophile paradise because of its lucrative child sex industry.

Bakhtiar: This is a billion dollar industry in Bangkok... Kids as young as 5 or 4 being trafficked and taken to brothels, taken to "painter" bars, taken to places where they basically are used and abused for sex objects.

Anchorman: What is a "painter" bar?

Bakhtiar: It's some bars that are, you know, in some place called Washington Square in downtown Bangkok where people go to get drinks. It's a low key bar but where sex is offered.

Anchorman: With kids?

Bakhtiar: With kids varying in ages and the kids are treated very poorly, John. Basically, they have diseases, they don't get medical attention, they're not fed properly, they're beaten if they don't make enough money.

Citing a Vietnam War era statute permitting prostitution in areas frequented by American troops, Bakhtiar then accuses the Thai Government of condoning - and even promoting - the sexual abuse of children. Disconcertingly, she laughs and grins throughout.

Anchorman: This guy, there's a lot of suspicion falling on him because he has a history. He was arrested for having child porn on his computer, he fled from the charges, he's claiming to be in love with JonBenet and, therefore, confirming all this is the fact that he was in Bangkok, Thailand.

In other words, if you've ever visited Bangkok, Fox News says that you're a confirmed pedophile.

Anchorman: Is the only reason somebody would go to Bangkok, Thailand is the sex industry?

Bakhtiar: Well, I'd hate to speculate on that and ruin Thailand's tourist industry altogether [smiles broadly] in one shot, John, but it's listed as the third place for child abuse and child sexual exploitation. Basically, children there see anything between two and ten clients per week... it's one of the biggest industries for them.

Bakhtiar then repeats her unfounded allegations about the Thai Government's involvement in child abuse. She goes on to quote statistics relating to the size of Thailand's regular sex industry but misrepresents them as being evidence of the widespread sexual abuse of children.

The whole story is pure fabrication from start to finish. I've been to every sleazy bar in Bangkok and have never once been offered a child prostitute.

When planeloads of Fox-inspired pedophile scum descend on Bangkok's shabby Washington Square, they'll be in for a big disappointment.

[Posted to News by David]

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Readers' comments

Anonymous says:

well child trafficking is on the increase in thailand, but i have never heard anything would suggest that it happens in bangkok, or any other main tourist destination in thailand.

i was under impression from what i have read that thailand was purely the country that thai girls are taken from, to go to japan, cambodia, etc.

oh dear, the news media gets it wrong again.

i wonder what thier sources of information are...and where it is coming from.

maybe some journalist farang girls on koh samui are pissed of because their boyfriends pissed off AGAIN with another young thai lovely. not too young i might add.

i would not be surprised as have met a girl who worked for the guardian on koh pan yang {sorry about spelling no time to look it up} she was very interested if we had been with some of the younger ladies around the island.

who knows!

this will be interesting to find out...1

Dana says:

If I had never been to Thailand I might believe this news story. Makes me wonder what other inaccurate stories I believe.

Anonymous says:

why is it that male ex-pats in bangkok or any asian country are so concerned about what 'farang' women think about them? if you're so happy banging asian chicks why whinge about the 'fat, hairy-lipped, money suckers' back home? give it a rest already, nobody cares.

cdubalub says:

Its been all over the news here. Its sad. The news is trying their best to make this guy out to be the paedophile maniac he might be, while vilifying Bangkok so as to make their point seem stronger. I've never seen or heard of children being offered up for sex in Bangkok. Around patpong, some touts may say 'have young lady', but I am quite sure they don't mean anyone under 18.

Mr Lucky says:

You're dreaming if you think the 'facts' for this story came from any journalist based in Thailand.

As a journalist myself, it's not too hard to guess sources when none are quoted. Her source in this case was an internet search lasting no longer than 30 minutes, or I'll eat my hat and the little 'Press' badge that sticks out of it.

Luckily for Thailand, FOX viewers were never in their tourism demographic. Anyone who takes FOX News seriously is too petrified to step out the front door, let alone onto a plane.

Jaques says:

"When planeloads of Fox-inspired pedophile scum descend on Bangkok's shabby Washington Square, they'll be in for a big disappointment."

True, but that's the scary thing about this kind of bullshit reporting is that it might in fact attract pedophiles to Thailand thinking that they can get hold of underage girls/boys easily and that the thai government doesn't care.

SeatSniffer says:

[why whinge about the 'fat, hairy-lipped, money suckers' back home? give it a rest already, nobody cares.]

ummm...you forgot cloven hooved.

nekochan says:

I call this US media self-rightiousness. Fabrication is a norm. We should feel greatful that there is no WMD (weapon of mass destruction). No one has never claimed its existance here.

They may have pity on LOS. Otherwise GW Bush may send his troops here to save hapless kids.

Spoon says:

Bakehara seems pretty powerful if she can "ruin Thailand's tourism industry alltogether in one shot".

I'm really surprised that even FOX would come up with this utter nonsense. Scary thing from a national network. And that anchorman really does sound like a boob.

I havn't been back to the US in 10 years, and from the sounds of it, I better stay away otherwise I might be seen as a diseased young child lover who spend his idle moments in so called "painter bars".

Good Ridance

Kaltes says:

All of the media is doing this, not just FOX news. The only reason that FOX gets any attention is because it is the only network that is seen as conservative, so the liberals here in the US and abroad hate it with a passion.

If you look at the type of people who bad-mouth white men in Thailand and the sex industry there, you aren't seeing conservatives. On this blog and elsewhere, you see almost exclusively the ignorant paternal liberal types who hate globalization, hate free markets, and think that thai women should not have the right to make a living by having sex.

I know it is all the rage to sit around whining about conservatives, the "religious right" that is supposedly going to turn America into a theocracy one of these days (yeah right!), but the fact of the matter is that when I see vitriol aimed at farang man in Thailand the people appear to me to have a decidedly left-of-center slant, with some rare exceptions. The worst are the "let's save the world" wannabe NGO types who cant comprehend that the prostitutes in Thailand are consenting adults who take on this work because it is the best opportunity available to them.

philH says:

This whole case is rapidly getting out of hand on the back of ignorant, uninformed, self serving, attention grabbing, cerebaly challenged journalists and TV channels.

Whether Kooky Karr is guilty or not, whether he is a paedo or not is becoming irrelevant. The world's attention is focussing on LOS for the wrong reasons. Pressure will be on Whacko Tacko and his Minsitry of Culture to take action.

Watch out for increased raids on nightspots by the boys in brown. Sure as eggs are oval they'll be drawn to the bright lights. They won't go poking in dark corners as they may find too many hi-so's playing Santa Claus with little boys and girls.

Paedos do exist in Thailand but probably no more than in the US, UK and other so called civilised countries. The difference there is that when one gets dragged out of his hole the media attention is muted and the story has a very short lifespan unless there is a murder attached. Even then it is off the front page by day four.

Grunt says:

Ok, show of hands, who here agrees this "news" is an inevitable byproduct of the Karr story?

To reflect Fox's "fair and balanced reporting" should we expect to see American or British divorce / child custody statistics and the clear and present danger such actual facts present to the average man on the street.

Or not...

Andy says:

Fox News is hardly any bastion of balanced news journalism though, is it?
Its the equivalent of a tabloid Sunday "newspaper" that caters for semi-literate chavs with hangovers, ie; utter drivel.
It serves its purpose though; keeping bigoted, lardy people scared at home where they can't upset anyone. Fair enough?

sniffer says:

Has this story been reported in the Thai media? If so, is it likely to spark action by the Thai authorities?Would hate to see places of, er...adult entertainment being cracked down upon cos they were misrepresented in the foreign media.
Fox are a bunch of evil bastards, anyway. Bill O' Reilly should be strung up by his testicles. Problem is, Fox's right-wing lunacy is becoming ever more the mainstream in America

Johnny says:

A big story of course, but they shouldn't mistakenly point the finger at Thailand, especially when they don't know the facts. I personally have never heard of child sex in Thailand, except to note that it is cracked down on hard and is never condoned.

Unfortunately for Jon Benet's family it looks obvious that this creep is falsely confessing to seek attention. We need alot more background checks on creeps like him teaching young kids, a couple of "falang" pedophiles turned up recently at an internationally sponsored school in Indonesia. This is definitely not the image of foreigners in Asia we want, the kids and education is too important.

I remember watching another US news channel once that had a story praising Robert Mugabe as a shining example of black people making a difference in the world. The journalist only had to simply ask a black Zimbabean how they enjoyed their torturous labour and reform camp stays.

Journalists are definitely getting dumber, or is that the general population. Hey, they are on TV, they must be right and smart too. They don't check the facts anymore, and don't care if they get things wrong.

Mac says:

I don't have or watch television, but saw Fox news once a couple years ago and, as it happens, again on Sunday night while in an upcountry hotel (visa run time). I don't know if it was Bakhtiar I saw, but this flower-wiltingly strident harpy of a presenter was shrieking about Karr fleeing a kiddie porn rap in the states and then naturally winding up in Bangkok, or "kiddie porn central", as she put it.
I hope someone is keeping a list of these slurs.

Incidentally, I'm sure the Tourism Authority of Thailand has the best of intentions, but coming up the tollway from the airport last night and seeing the succession of huge billboards featuring an assortment of little girls from various parts of Thailand and other Asian destinations, I imagined that when Karr arrived and saw them, he must have thought he'd come to the right place, alright.
No doubt Bakhtiar would find affirmation in them as well.

But for now, gentlemen, let the Fox hunt begin. Which Mangosauce reader can dig up Thailand-related dirt on a Fox news person? Bill O'Reilly has already been exposed stateside as a vibrator-crazed pervert and sexual harasser; it shouldn't be too difficult. Surely there's a friend of a friend out there somewhere who knows one of these sanctimonious hypocrites and can ferret out the secret pedo files locked away in the Fox hole.

Bobby Dazzler says:

So where is the Washington Square, I never even heard of that place, hasn't it been knocked down?

Everyone knows that expat’s in Bangkok are a bunch of perverted bastards, but who cares up to them I say. Huumm dirty, sluty bar girls, I love'em!

Anonymous says:

I'm a regular of about 12 years in Washington Square and find this story personally affronting. And I'm glad to see the issue being discussed. I do a weekly column (well, almost) online about Thailand, and just yesterday I put out my first-ever special edition discussing just this story. Though I myself tend towards the conservative side of things, I've never been a big fan of Fox News if for no other reason than we-are-not-a-monopoly UBC doesn't offer it here in Bangkok -- and now I damned sure never will be. True, the "painter bars" are near Washington Square, located as they are in Sukhumvit Soi 33 almost directly opposite the Square -- but they're not *in* the Square. But more to the point, I've never witnessed pedophilia in the Square OR in any of the Soi 33 bars. Fox News can dry up and blow away, as far as I'm concerned, if this is the best "journalism" they can pull off.

Combover says:

Whilst I agree with the general sentiment that paedophilia is not rife in Thailand as per the perception of the hysterical overseas media, I think people are kidding themselves if they close their eyes to girls under 18 working illegally in the bars of Nana, Soi Cowboy & Pattaya.

I personally have come across a(much older looking) 17 year old with brilliant English who had been in the bars for 3 years, and a 24 year old 11 year veteran of the gogos. Many bars have young looking girls, some of whom are without doubt underage.

Hugh Jarse says:

While it's certainly not true about Washington Square or "painter" bars, there are several massage parlours with side rooms offering fresh produce from the countryside. I doubt child victims in the range of 4-5 y.o. are placed in the parlours. Teenagers 14-15 y.o. is a likely possibility. Then again, the demand is probably created by the local populace rather than imported kiddy fiddlers!

Does the lady on Fox think a name like "Washington Square" combined with a losely mentioned give-or-take 10 years age group, makes the story appealing, or is it just an end product of armchair journalism?

Andy says:

Doubtless there are a few precocious girls who slip through; but the high-profile bars for Westerners can hardly afford to get caught out with jailbait on the books.
The real underage brothels are for local pooyais; hi-so's; and monks, seemingly.
The finger-pointing and cultural imperialism at play here would seem a little hypocritical given that the people in the Southern US were married barely into their teens until fairly recently.

Derukugi says:

Yeah, I have seen working girls that I doubted very much were 18. And I would be careful to ask for some verification that I am not setting myself up for a visit to a Thai jail.

But from 17 or 18 to hard-core child pornography is a long way down. And that kind of stuff is surely something that the perverts have to search for.

stef says:

if i am not mistaken, the US is ahead of Thailand and Philippines when it comes to child abuse; where did i get this? the holy lonely planet bible ...

Chanchao says:

It's easy to pick on Fox as their lies are the most outrageous, but don't forget "respectable" news sources who do the exact same thing.

How about The Guardian? A quality newspaper right? Well think again:

"In countries such as Thailand, child sexual exploitation builds on a long-standing and vast prostitution industry, and thrives where law enforcement is weak or corrupt. That sex with young teens is not a strong taboo in some Asian cultures makes fighting the problem even more difficult.

Poverty-stricken Cambodia in recent years has become new frontier for pedophiles for this very reason. The arrests of aging British rock star Gary Glitter - real name Paul Francis Gadd - first in Cambodia and then in neighboring Vietnam put a rare international spotlight on the matter, though new cases come to court virtually every month."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/
story/0,,-6020197,00.html
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And this in an article on the arrest of Karr. Note how they claim that child abuse is related to regular prostitution, and that child abuse is 'culturally not a strong taboo".. (Not just incorrect but also dangerous.. This might translated to pedophiles as "Hey, a country that may understand me.")

Then they move on to the Gary Glitter case in Cambodia?! How is that related to the Ramsey case?? Seriously.

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

combover my slaphead cretin friend,

Just because the only red light district places you know are farrang based, no need to mention them incorrectly as places where underage Thai gals work.
If you knew just alittle bit about the Thai bargal business you'd know that the massive and l mean "Massive" majority of underage Thai gals cater and work only in the Thai "Man" sector/area's of the industry.

Next time wear a hat when you go out in sun before you post what can only be discribed as another factless based blurry vague Foxy style post.

Thako x

Combover says:

Thaksin - I am in Thailand on average about 20 times a year and not green.

That said, other than the high roller type Thai venues I know little of Thai man haunts. Doubtless you are correct that they are awash with underage girls.

I stand by my statement that there are underage girls working in gogo bars in Bangkok & Pattaya. Derukugi is correct in his statement above and I do not equate this with paedophilia, but if you deny this fact you are deluded or dishonest.

Mick from Isle of Man says:

Very simple story. Pervert with half brain had a choice: 1. spend 10 years in BKK hilton, or 2. get a get out of jail free card by allowing himself to become a poster child for paedophiles and face life imprisonment in the usa. choice 1 probably would have met death by disease in 2-4 years. choice 2 gives him 3 hot meals a day in some us pen for lifetime.

GK says:

Was referred to this specific post by a friend and to tell you the truth it is by far the least obnoxious post you have about Thailand. You even defended the country and I have to tell you it's really good to see Mangosauce posting something like this for a change.

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

No comment combover on the "Dishonest" bit.

Thako

philH says:

Mick from the IoM,
don't forget the trump card. There will be a queue of slimy lawyers a mile long just itching to get a chance at his defence. Add to that the US justice system that seems, like the UK's, to favour scum and we have another whacko jacko circus on the brew.

Unless there is a lot we aren't being told the case is about as watertight as the Titanic.

My guess is that, apart from remand, he'll never see the inside of a jail. The prosecution case will fall apart, he'll be aquitted and then write a nice little earner book.

But, if he is found guilty the prospect of the Bangkok Hilton might be a bit more attractive than spending the rest of his life getting arse shagged in some US clink.

All in all it might have been better had the cops here "found' a quantity of class A substance in his room. Probably would have done had the FBI not been around.

Hank says:

Wait a minute. So this Karr guy has spent the last 10 years on the run, hiding out in Costa Rica, Honduras, Germany, The Netherlands, Korea, Malaysia, etc. And just because he was in Thailand when he got caught, Thailand takes the rap? Why not take this opportunity to praise Thai law enforcement - and to take to task all of those other countries that let him get away?! Or is there some rule that says "The last country a person is in when he gets caught is responsible for his crimes."?

Caro Malta says:

....hey relax! it was on FOX american news! I lost all credibility on every bit of news that come from that continent! probably next week they start sayin that Thailand will be the next nuclear power, powered by pedophiles or somethin like that!

Simmo says:

Damm .. she's hot. I'd nail her

Greer says:

I have lived in Bangkok for 14 years, married a Thai and have 3 kids. I have NEVER been offered, nor of course would I accept, children for sex - a completely disgusting concept to everyone that I know who lives here.

This American slag calling herself a journalist is utter rubbish. Had she or the deadshit anchorman ever been to Thailand, they would know exactly where Washington Square is, not "some place called Washington Square" indicating that they have never been to the place, and further implying in the way it is said, that their information is hear-say.

Washington Square is an area of bars and restaurants that cater mainly, but not exclusively, to American expats - all of the ones I know and have met are very honorable guys who would probably blow a paedophile away just for standing near them!

The guys are being denigrated on national television in a country where the average viewer doesn't even know where Thailand is, but will happily believe the utter filth dished out to them by the electronic and print media in search of ever more advertising revenue - because that's what it is all about - nothing more, and I have worked in the media for over 30 years, so I know what I am talking about.

The idiots provide further proof of their stupidity and that they and their "sources" know nothing about Bangkok by saying that the bars are called "painter bars"!

The so called painter bars are in another street altogether and are simply so called because they are named after famous painters, nothing more sinister than that - if that useless slut is reading this, then for f*ck sake at least try to get your garbage in order before you start deriding a whole country and culture for your own sleazy benefit.

It might interest you to know that the painter bars are up-market meeting places that cater to the well heeled customers usually business men, and are certainly NOT involved in any form of child sex trade, they are completely above board and are not even considered to be "girly bars" like those in some of the more famous areas.

I know this for a fact because I know many of the owners of bars in Soi 33, also known as the "Dead Painters Street" because of bar names such as Renoir, Degas, Van Gogh, Monet etc.

These bars are very up market and high quality bars, definitely not the haunt of padophiles nor their victims. I know the bars there, and I know them well.

Thailand is our home, and I am proud to have been "adopted" and accepted by the Thai people; I most vehemently despise the vile filth vomited from the mouth of this ugly American slag - if this is an example then obviously Fox News is a haven for unchecked, dishonest, and untrue garbage reporting.

daniel says:

she may be ignorant but she is hardly ugly, i think she is rather sexy.....!

hmmmm it must be an asian thing!

ozricmann says:

mr lucky...

are you saying that a national news channel can just use information from accessing the internet.

"somehow i think not", she did however get the information somewhere possibly from a source here in thailand and yes i agree it would NOT be a thai journalist.

surely however with a news channel such as fox who do not research the facts thoroughly, thailand demographic would be just the country to aim its news at.

Andy says:

Anyway, if Fox need a pedophile story, here's one a bit closer to home that they could at least get off their lazy arses to investigate;

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/
0817phxprostitute-ON.html

13 yo??????? Dear me.

Mick from Isle of Man says:

philH, karr would probably enjoy getting arse shagged in some US clink for the rest of his life. anyway, most sane folks would prefer life in a us prison to 10 years in a bkk clink.

Petenic says:

I have seen very few women under the age of twenty five working in Washington Square. In fact the last time I was there the combined age of the three women wanking me off in the bar was well over 120.

Eniac says:

The Times' Brussels correspondent at the time of the Belgian paedophile scandal was called Roger Boyes.

Anon says:

Here is her Wiki page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudi_Bakhtiar

Go knock yourselves out writing what a c*nt she is!

rh says:

Most ironic of all is that John Karr is looking more and more like a harmless delusionist than a genuine pedophile.
See http://abcnews.go.com/US/
LegalCenter/story?id=2351162&page=1

Chair says:

Thanks for the wiki page. She is cute. She is intelligent. I also read she has a Degree in European Art. I’m in love. What a woman.

Mekhong Kurt says:

Greer -- a friend sent your comment to me in an e-mail, and I find it excellent. I'd like to ask your permission to reprint it on my own website, though I don't want to name my site here -- 'fraid I'll violate some forum rule if I do.

foxer says:

How do you even watch Fox News in Bangkok? Not on UBC as far as I know.

Lexo says:

here is another crazy article about bangkok where the reporter claims that those pesky flower/candy selling boys/girls will give you a blow job for 20 bhat on sukumvit!!!!!!!

i lived on sukumvit soi 6 for 3 years now, and go out every night, and never have one of those pesky brats offered me nothing except 100bhat wilted flowers or over priced candy. more lies!

http://www.denverpost.com/frontpage/ci_4244063

a-tscp says:

Did Bakhtiar used to vistit or live in Thailand? I am sure,Everyone who use to visit or live in Thailand, must say,No! she never and don't know anything about Bangkok. Her information may be come from searching an internet, which some guy who 's unknown posted. I have lived in Thaialnd for 34 years and 15 years for Bangkok,
I won't tell you that I weel known about Thailand or Bangkok, But I think I known very well about Thai Culture. Thailand is not sex industry as she refer. Many foreigner came to Thailand in order to Travel or businsee. Only some stupid guys pay theirs money and time for having sex in Thailand. If you are, I just want to tell you that, dont' lost time to come, you can do this thing at your country! If you are others foreigner who wish to travel in Thailand (not including sex), You will see the smile land and beautiful nature. Thailand has many place for you to travel,island,breach,mountain, waterfall and many old temples and palace. You can come to relax for a short time on you holiday, or you can play your life after no business here.

thara says:

someone like Bakhtia make us Thai people fell sick their story about thailand in very bad issue.
it not fair for us, we have very beautyful culture and wellcome every foregner but from you story you make me thai people scare you and can not be friend and trust with farang any more.

jimmagic says:

every country have both darkside and shiny side...and U!!! America have many many many dark side too BUT we never say bad it in public!!! ..... Thailand has many beautiful Place to go not just "Sa-nam-luang"...But U!!! just go to thailand for KAMA cause it's much more difficult for u to find some in your country....U Have no respect in Our country So why we have to respect U!!! Goob-bye America...

Andy says:

Hello, thara. Its not just Thailand that uses xenophobic propoganda to make brainwashed, blinkered fuckwits feel good about themselves you know...?

Bakhtia is obviously a lying 'khaek', and if you saw her and a snake at the same time; you'd know which one to kill first, no?

seashell says:

I agree with Mr. Lucky....child sex is NOT prevalent in Thailand...there is too much other sex to be interested in that wierd shit...

Bangkok oldtimer says:

Have been to Thailand over a hundred times over the years.

Just once (many years back) did a taxi driver suggest that he wanted to take me to a massage parlor where very young (under age ) girls were available. I refused his offer, but the fact that he made such a suggestion to me indicates that there must be some farangs who visit Thailand for under age sex. This is disturbing.

Of course Bakhtiar and Fox News generally, spout utter rubbish. But, just imagine what the average Fox News viewer would think of any person who has been to Thailand.

At the time of the last US election (2004) Time magazine had stated that Fox News was George W. Bush's favorite news channel. GWB has visited Thailand; am I insinuating something?

Nick says:

She makes much of Thailand being "listed as the third place for child abuse and child sexual exploitation."

The list she refers to comes from the UN. I wonder why she doesn't mention who is listed second? Surely it can't be because in second place is........

The United States of America!

(India's number one, BTW.)

Anonymous says:

Oh you poor misinformed lot, or those unable to beleive what human beings are capable off, if you can call these perpetrators human. Very soon the eyes of the western world will be opened up to the real truth, and even to the countries where peadophilia and torture and murder occur. Yeah some sex preditors may have been to the peadophile bars and seen nothing this is because the maggots sus eveyone who enters. I am involved in forcibly taking children from peadophiles by brute force, those who use them for monetary gain. Look those of you who don't beleive there is government corruption are in for a real shock. Look what happened yesterday, why? Soon the real reason will be exposed. Laugh at me if you want but there are more goings on than most people think. I will again write a short letter in about a month or so. All I can say is WAKE UP WESTERN WORLD. If I'm wrong there will be an apology listed on this site. Oh one last thing. LOOK OUT YOU PEADOPHILE SCUM, YOU ARE UNDER INVESTIGATION.

philH says:

I hope that snotty, holier than thou slag Bakhtiar and her anchor poof have read today's Bangkok Post. Then they can do a shocking expose on the number one source of child abuse websites - the good ole US of A by a country mile.

Thailand meanwhile, a mere fifth place with only 7% of the USA score, will continue to be castigated by the likes of Ms Bakhtiar. Well it don't make good press to dig the dirt in your own back yard does it?

Anonymous, you sound a real tough guy, just the sort of real man that makes a coup de'tat happen at the snap of your fingers. Crap! You're just one of these beer bar nutters gobbing off about how they'd run things, all wind and piss. Don't bother with an apology, you are the very embodiment of one.

Grunt says:

"I agree with Mr. Lucky....child sex is NOT prevalent in Thailand...there is too much other sex to be interested in that wierd shit..." - seashell

And in that, seashell inadvertantly nails the entire pedophile issue.

The root cause of ALL socio-sexual dysfunction?

The cancerous social construct that renders males and females incompatible.

None other then feminism.

philH says:

I think a lot of the problem comes from peoples predujiced misconceptions. They see a guy walking with a young kid and they immediately think "paedo bastard". It never enters their tiny mind that he most likely is married to a Thai woman and that is his adopted or natural child. No, that doesn't suit the screaming tub thumping psychopathic agenda of people like mr angrily anonymous above.

Oh well it's just huMAN natURE as BT would say, or maybe a touch of judging others by their own moral standards.

I'm not saying there are no paedo's in LOS, just that they keep their disgusting activities well and truly out of sight. They tend not to parade through Lumpini park 2 o'clock in the afternoon.

Grunt says:

Damn right, phil! Here in America blatant pederasts run for congress!

Of course, then we have dicer...

Dicer says:

"Of course, then we have dicer..."

Grunt cant go without mentioning Dicer.... am I rudely etched somehwere in your subconscious now am I? urgh.

"The cancerous social construct that renders males and females incompatible."

Affecting to be idealistic without having authentic ideas is called posturing, in your case Grunt it is called simple mindedness. Because you are emasculated and cant control your situation doesnt mean that feminism is to blame for your whimpering demaled condition. Crying foul all the time does not help. In any society if you know the rules and think of exactly what to do you can come out a winner. It's yur likes of pontificating whimpering demaled, defanged wankers who I find tedious in Thailand. The Thais are exactly the way they are and if you know it you can deal with them. Also remember that your pederasts and pervs are the exception rather than the rule. So before you go about analysing deviants learn the rules.

Also you keep on leaping like an anchorless eunech thread rope to rope and throw in "Dicer this Dicer that" ... a classic symptom of a mumbling de-alphaed gerbil. Ask your Italian brethren in cement and waste disposal in NYC and they'll tell you exactly what an alpha man is. Or if you cant muster the courage perhaps you can get some ideas from that De Niro & Billy Crystal film Analyse whatever.

I chose the less ephemeral dog psychology because it is simple, deals with animal behaviour and is to the point. So deal with it. Here.

http://dogpsychologycenter.com/cesar/
philosophy.php

Whether you talk about soup or repeat the same crap about pools the point is the same ad nauseum. I can call you here a gutless pretentious sissy, but that would be counter-intuitive so I wont.

Grunt says:

Regardless of how many (unread by most) words you type, dicer, the only image in everyones mind is that bumper sticker on the back of your Ford Escort GT.

You know, the one that reads "Proud Member of NAMBLA"?

Yeah, right next to the "Barney Frank in 2006" one.

Dicer says:

Your home spun Russian mini parables and bumper stickerisms and as I said, peripatetic acronyms give you away easily.... anyway take it easy.

Yes u said that your ex-gerbil is in some midwest gerbilhole and now you've got your trimmed ex-soviet to build your esteem with. Clone her, pickle her No 2 3 4 ..., put her in serial jars and sell her for a premium to fellow demaled. Then we will have known you made it if you are here less and less.

Scott A says:

Ms Bakhtiar is the poster child for why american men come to other countries to find girlfriends, and wives.

Dicer says:

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/international/
news/20061013p2g00m0in003000c.html

The vortex sewer is running over.

Sam Chapman. says:

Maybe there is a some truth in what the press are printing, BUT, one also has to take into account the following usually unwritten Laws of the media industry:

a) 'No news sells like BAD news.

b) An article that can be cobbled up together from 30 minutes of web-browsing, is probably 1000 times more likely to be published, than one which requires leg-work and a couple of days-worth of research.

c) Most newspapers are utter dross, and the internet, is the world's greatest source of un-qualifable and biased information because the freedom it offers those who wish to distort the truth.

If you doubt these statements, I would ask you to specify a daily newspaper that has generated more than 10 original in-depth articles by itself, which has involved investigative journalism that has taken more than a week to compile, and gives BOTH sides of the story.

Sunglasses Ron says:

Painter Bars and Washington Square are mentioned in the same sentence in the Wikipedia's article on prostitution in Thailand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand

It seems that Fox News do their research on the Wikipedia.

Ruben Ask says:

Why am I not surprised? In Pattaya there is a huge billboard targeting Americans about the penalties for having sex with underage persons.

I guess there is a problem in Thailand, as in EVERY f*ing country!! Thailand isn't as bad as the FOX wants it to be. There are places in Eastern Europe and other asian countries where Pedos might travel. I don't think many westerners dare to try Thailand for young sex. They get caught and brandished all over the media.

Grunt says:

Im wondering...

Why is it females can, openly or blatantly, set their compass to the man with the most "financial security"...

But when men focus on youth and purity, something most western females lose by age 11, they are demonized?

Just wondering.

Common Sense says:

Grunt,
While you bring up a very valid point, I'm not sure if a thread with the words "Pedophile Paradise" in the title is the best place to start this discussion.

Mr.Nobody says:

"In other words, if you've ever visited Bangkok, Fox News says that you're a confirmed pedophile."

Did you know that you can sue Fox News for making false stories and accusing people of pedophile? Its called defamation lawsuit. If you ever find yourself targeted as a pedophile just because you go to Thailand by Fox News or feminists or anyone, in America you can sue for defamation. Now that is very serious if someone is spreading lies about you. You win the case 100%. Its always good to pay a few thousands dollars to hire a lawyer once in your lifetime and have the lawyer teach you how to sue and what to sue and when to sue people or feminists or whoever damage you or your reputation.

Tongue-Tied Danny says:

Here's much more reasoned article on so-called child prostitution in SE Asia.

http://www.newint.org/issue252/home.htm

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