August 21 2004

Farang girls who pay Thai men for sex

"I've never heard of a western woman having to pay a Thai man. That's ridiculous" says naive Mango Sauce reader, Nong (See Three faces of female sex-tourism in Thailand).

Hannah Duguid of Britain's Daily Mirror has now blown the lid on their shameless whore-mongering. Spotted by Basil Brush, this story is entitled "Brit girls who pay Thais for no-strings sex."

The teenage woman takes a long look at the menu. She makes her choice and the waiter disappears to fetch her order. He returns with a fit, beautiful, young man.

Ruth Evans is 19 and from Manchester. She is in a male brothel in Thai capital Bangkok - and has just ordered a prostitute for the evening.

She will buy him drinks, they will chat and dance. Later, if she wants, she can pay him £22 (1,600 baht in the local currency) to go back to her hotel and have sex with her.

"It's a real power trip," says Ruth. "A lot of girls come out here looking for sex with a Thai man. This is safer than going round the bars and picking one up."

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There are some 20 British girls - mostly students - in the brothel tonight, toying with the idea of paying a man for sex.

"It's something different. All the blokes pay for it so why can't we?" says Carly Purdy, 23, from Hemel Hempstead, Herts.

The sex workers are tested for HIV every four or five weeks. If they do not turn up for work then it means they have had a positive result. Each bar has one or two cases each month.

In other brothels, men wear hotpants with a number badge. Here they wear suits, which makes the place feel less sleazy. The guys move around the bar flirting with the girls and checking they have everything they want. Every hour there is a floor show where they take their shirts off and get up on stage to dance.

They all have perfect, lean bodies.

Charlie Barndon, 23, from Newcastle, says: "It's guaranteed good sex with no strings."

Ruth buys her bloke a drink and asks him to kiss her. A two-minute snog costs her 70p (50 baht).

Louise Fordham, a 31-year-old from Southend, and Gillian Kitrick, 50, from London, are seasoned sex tourists. They both teach English in Bangkok and regularly haunt the boy bars.

Gillian says: "I'd been in Bangkok for a week or so when a waiter approached me and asked me if I wanted to take him home. He was 22 years old and absolutely beautiful."

"He came with me and I paid for him for four days. It's a nice safe business transaction. I know plenty of women here who get bored and horny - so they buy a boy for the night."

When women find a prostitute they like, they tend to keep him on for a while.

Gillian is with Tong. He's a 31-year-old from a remote Thai village who she met in Throb - a bar in Boyz Town, Pattaya. The area is a resort two hours south of Bangkok, notorious for its sex bars.

Every night Tong strips to a gold G-string and performs a synchronised swimming show in a huge fish tank in the bar. Like all the males on offer, his body is in perfect shape.

He is for sale to men and women. Most clients are gay men and 80 per cent of the working boys are straight. They get very excited when a woman comes in looking for trade.

Gillian explains: "If you like a boy, then you make eye contact with him."

"They won't approach you first. If you want to leave the bar with them you have to pay the bar a fine to make up for their absence."

The bar fine in Throb is £4 and sex with a guy like Tong will set you back £7 - 500 baht - for a quick one or £14 for the night. Gillian has been with Tong for a year. They meet every weekend and when they go out she pays for everything.

She says: "I don't mind giving him money. I earn ten times his salary. Although it's not just about money for him. Being seen with a Western woman is good for his status."

"I like being with him because he's so affectionate. He's young and fun. He makes me feel attractive and sexy."

"He has a beautiful body. When we're in bed he's hungry for me. We've had sex five times in one morning before. It makes me feel good."

"He doesn't speak much English but I don't need him for intellectual conversation. I have friends who I can have meaningful conversations with."

All the boys are looking for a regular arrangement with a foreign woman. Pip Johnson, 35, and her husband Jimmy, 43, are also in Throb. She is an attractive blonde and has her arm around a good-looking young Thai man. A stunning Thai girl is draped over Jimmy.

Pip and Jimmy cruise. They have been to Thailand many times. At Christmas, they will be coming back for two months. They leave their two teenage sons, from Jimmy's first marriage, at home with their grandparents.

Pip says: "For 10 years I paid for sex with girls out here. But last year I wanted a change so I tried buying a boy. When I told the bar what I wanted, I was mobbed. I took one boy and kept him for two weeks. This holiday I've had the same boy, Nik."

"He's 27 and I'll keep him for the holiday. I pay him at the end. I'll give him a huge tip. It's 1,000 baht a night but I'll give him 2,000. When I paid the last boy he was so grateful he cried."

"The men here are more pliable than English men. They're athletic and will do anything."

"Nik makes sure that I have three orgasms before he comes."

"He'll always do whatever I want. I'm totally in control. There's no complaining or whingeing."

"Nik has a perfect body and he treats me like a queen."

"In Thailand, prostitutes know how to make you feel like you're worth something. They're so attentive. I'll go out for dinner with Nik and he's always got an eye on me making sure that I'm okay. It's more than sex. It's about getting to know him as a person - although I don't have a strong emotional attachment to him. I could leave him tomorrow."

Jimmy and Pip rent a two-bedroom apartment. One for Jimmy and his prostitute and one for Pip and her boy. They used to have sex with their different partners together in the same bedroom but the local girls were uncomfortable having intercourse in front of a Thai man. In the flat, Nik is shy with Jimmy and only speaks when he is spoken to.

Jimmy says: "When I first saw Pip with another man, I had a problem with it. I didn't mind seeing her with girls but with a man I felt threatened and jealous."

"I had to get over it though - otherwise I'd have looked like a right hypocrite."

Pip claims: "Doing this has made our relationship stronger."

"Jimmy and I have been married for five years but I was his mistress for six years before he left his first wife."

"He's always been a womanizer and this way I know what's going on."

"There are no secrets and we have plenty to laugh about and spice up our sex life when we get home. No one at home knows."

"A few years ago people found out that we'd picked up girls in Thailand and there was a real scandal. Jimmy's mates were okay with it but I lost a few girlfriends."

"We know other couples who come out here and pay for sex. One pair came out with their 26-year-old son."

"Most couples get a girl between them. The husbands can't handle it if their wife wants to buy a man."

Kevin Quill is the British owner of Throb. He says: "I see more and more women coming in looking for sex."

"Two or three a month take a boy home. It's mainly older women who pay for it but younger women are into it too."

"It's not out of desperation - some of them are really attractive. They just want to experience something different."

"These boys know exactly what a woman wants and the women get a kick out of paying for it."

Do you fancy having a go, Nong?

[Posted to News by David]

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Readers' comments

KDub says:

Whatever happened to drunken sailors?

August 21, 2004 1:21 PM

mr peter says:

"He'll always do whatever I want. I'm totally in control. There's no complaining or whingeing'

Bit of a busmans holiday then, same as at home except for the novelty of the girl putting her hand in her purse for a change. Lets hope our thai brothers don't fall for these girls and end up marrying them only to end up on some cold and lonely estate back in falangland. Don't forget guys these girls are just pathetic fat sluts who cannot get a boyfriend back home so go on holiday to pray on the poor young natives, shocking and disgusting, ha ha. I wonder if the tarts have to pay a joiner fee when taking the guys back to the hotel?-peter

August 21, 2004 1:42 PM

Niall says:

I say good for them. Its the only way they will get shagged in Thailand, it helps the locals and also teaches them that what we say about these Fuglies is completely true. They will tell their Thai girlfriends who are likely also our girlfriends so it adds to cultural understanding.

Win win.

August 21, 2004 2:35 PM

BLACK CUNT says:

Must be really confusing that these farang women achieve orgasms with these natives , my numerous girlfriends must be from a different part of siam , cos they always say these thai men dont know how to do a, and are usually small sized.may be they use the tongues most effectively on these sumo wrestlers.

August 21, 2004 4:20 PM

Dicky says:

I remember going to Bali and seeing the same thing there in Ubud with the Balinese blokes, all lined up against the bar in their best jeans waiting for the old slappers to appear. Mind you, it was an alright scene: lots of nice Dutch tarts about. It was funny watching them get more and more annoyed with the hackneyed I-bee-your-guide come-on line of the Bali blokes. Then I would appear after 2 hours of very bizarre people watching and move in on the nice ones. By that time they were screaming for company. The Balinese guys didn't care that much. There was this one guy though who used to walk around Ubud with a big chamelion on his shoulder. He had the rasta look down perfect with not a dreadlock out of place. Had all these women surrounding him, then later he's show up with one of them at the bar. She's be sort of defiant and warding off stares because everyone knew he'd shagged her, he's done her, previously that afternoon. He didn't like having me around, since he was now moving in one her best mate, who by now was with me, unbeknownst to him. I just cackled at him all evening; sod the political correctness "So what you do then? Like, a job I mean. Is that your girlfriend? Some woman was asking about you. Oh shit, there she is! Nah, false alarm, sorry.." etc., etc. He stayed away from my choices and I stayed away from his. Later, in Lovina I picked up another Dutch bird right out from under the noses of these other Balinese guys. Then when I went to take a piss, three of them followed me into the bathroom. Oh no, I thought, that's it. But instead they congratulated me on my approach thus far and insisted "Now you must buy the Pina Colada" which I did and it worked. They all appalauded us I left the bar with her later.

August 21, 2004 5:04 PM

Mr. White says:

ha ha ha. Oh man, please tell me that you photoshopped the eyes on the woman in the photo that accompanies this story. It's beautiful work.
Thanks to you for breaking my sides as I rolled around the floor laughing.
Thanks to the dirty Thai guys who take care of chicks that look like that.

August 21, 2004 5:10 PM

R@gtopmuse says:

David

Your writing is both informative and entertaining. As for the rest ... well, there is the occasional nugget, but man such a large sluice box is required.

Any news to add on the Q Bar raid where many a passportless soul was taken away and fined after peeing into a cup? Another fun Friday in BKK.

August 21, 2004 9:31 PM

Greg says:

Ragtop,

Regarding sluice I have a question for you.

Where do you concentrate your searches?

August 21, 2004 10:02 PM

R@gtopmuse says:

Dr. Suess books mostly. Very handy when I forget how to spell cat.

August 21, 2004 10:15 PM

SLUGGO says:

The only farang girls paying for sex over there are disgusting fly ridden ones who nobody would touch in the first place.As for ole Jimmy and Pip someone should put them freaks out of there misery.

August 21, 2004 10:41 PM

Meister says:

See it many times before but it will still be pooh-poohed by are whale-sized sisters!

August 21, 2004 11:36 PM

Dana says:

Certainly supports the notion that women don't really care that much about size.

August 22, 2004 10:50 AM

Willem Van Amerongen says:

Yes English girls are the ugliest fattest girls in the whole world-and since I have been in bangkok I have heard very many stories of what terrible attitudes they have-some english guys have had a rough ride with them and wasted a lot of time on tehm ( but I have learnt not to mention to these guys who are my drinking buddies how fat their sisters and mothers are!!)lucky for me the dutch girls keep themselves in much better shape and are on the whole quite pretty. and lucky for me I have such good looks that I can get a thai girl who doesn't work as a prostitute even though I'm a poor english teacher!

August 22, 2004 8:26 PM

KDub says:

Any woman that pays for sex should get instant membership in the f'ugly hall of fame.

I actually find it hard to believe. Things may just be diferent here in the US. Here, it seems like there are plenty of big black studs who will fuck anything white.

August 22, 2004 11:15 PM

Peter says:

I am astonished by some of the comments here. Why do some of you have such a problem with the fact that women are buying sex? Isn't this something that many of you do on a regular basis in Thailand? Why the double standard?

August 23, 2004 5:13 AM

anir says:

Hey On a different note I was informed that even Thai divorced ladies and horny ladies do buy guys in somewhere Sanam Luang park..they just come with their mercedes and BMW and pick up guys walking on the streets..does anybody know which place is it exactly and what time the party starts..maybe I can start by giving my G-String to the laundry :))

August 23, 2004 9:32 AM

darkie says:

Northern slags used to go to Faloraki on Rhodes or LLoret De Mar and Tossa , sounds like the guys there are getting a tad choosy now.

August 24, 2004 1:24 AM

Home Truths Revealed says:

"The men here are more pliable than English men. They're athletic and will do anything."

As compared to English men who are fat, bald, ugly and stink to high heaven. And who by the way also need to take intercontinental fligts for sex?

August 24, 2004 4:17 PM

Boney says:

She may not be the best looking farang woman you ever saw -- far from it!

But consider this: when she pops out that glass eye, you can fuck her brains out -- literally!

August 24, 2004 10:17 PM

Anonymous says:

white women paying local guys, for sex is no big deal. it happens all the time in Bali.

September 1, 2004 2:15 PM

TANAI KWAI says:

"white women paying local guys, for sex is no big deal. it happens all the time in Bali."

It also happens with some frequency at resorts in Mexico. Which just goes to show you: THE WHITE WOMAN'S APPETITE FOR SEXUAL IMPERIALISM KNOWS NO BOUNDS, GEOGRAPHIC OR MORAL.

Please join me in helping our dusky brethren around the world to throw off their oppressive chains. Speak out against profligate female lusts and the white woman's peculiar procilivity for young, firm dark flesh.

If by creating greater economic opportunities for factory work and erecting ever-increasing barriers to rampant brown cock-mongering by wealthy anglo-saxon women we can spare even one youngster the cruel and pleasureless existence of being a kept man -- left to simmer idly under the hot sun on a floating chaise longue while his haunchy slave mistress humiliates him further by paying for his drinks -- our efforts will have been amply rewarded.

(Day's never finished...
Master's got me working,
Someday Master set me free...)

September 1, 2004 11:33 PM

JAY1 says:

just like to say that i am a male and i dont think that these women are bad in what they are doing, its called life you ugly men, and guess what if any of you lady want a man you have me, i am not english but far better. so come on girl message me.

September 2, 2004 1:34 AM

Tracey Emin says:

hey mouthbreather, who u calling a man?

September 2, 2004 3:15 AM

Sandy says:

"Speak out against profligate female lusts and the white woman's peculiar procilivity for young, firm dark flesh."

I noticed how much attention one Brazilian guy gets from a growing number of confident, financially successfull(single)western women at the local supermarket. "Could you help me, please, I can't reach that box of cereal on the top shelf." It's quaint, reassuring, and an eye opener to see where many a white womans' proclivity lies, unmasked. He's Mediteranean and she's...well, there's no complimentary opposite if there is no opposite out there, so here's an opportunity for her to act out her supermarket fantasy.

Hardly Bali or a gaw Samui, where you see plenty of drinks and favors exchanged for some discreet pleasure, still they are the stuff a womans' wet dreams are made of.

Some guy has to do it; mais non pour moi. The thought of a "kept" man has some drawbacks difficult to fantasize about. Perhaps it's the fear factor, or a lucky draw at birth, but if I'm going to act on sex it's nicer to decide when to act(or not).

A woman can hide her desires more easily, and most would rather get hooked, reeled in, and landed in style anyway...even with a gigelo isn't that still their ultimate fantasy?

September 2, 2004 11:24 AM

rob says:

yes, i believe most white women do lust after brown cock.

September 2, 2004 11:37 AM

chops says:

Who really cares?
If you seek fun in the sun,black, white or brindle.
People on this site sometimes have interesting wordly views and sometimes racist views.
Colour of the skin only matters to those who have deep seated fear or loathing of other peoples.

September 2, 2004 3:53 PM

Grunt says:

There is no double standard in play here, Peter. Just a matter of perspective.

Put simply, western females are utterly convinced they are the be-all end-all, the virtual pinnacle, of human evolution.

Thus, they also think that western men are trashy oppressors not worthy of being shat upon.

But now we see how the rubber meets the road. The average white western male can walk down the street of many nations and get attention from a goodly percentage of the local females simply by being himself. Its likely he wont need to spend a dime for a little shagging here and there.

Contrast that with the average white western female that must show up for the game with handfulls of cash and expect to be serviced by *only* the most strident chubby-chasing lunatic barboy.

Better him then me!

May 30, 2006 5:10 PM

laughing out loud! says:

To the guy's who call farang girls "fuglies" thats funny because,we who come here that are not ugly.Men and women alike laugh at all you guys that are so pathetic that you need to pay for a bride or just sex.Let alone leave your country because you can't afford to pay for it "back home".We offten refer to all of you as FUGLIES.LOL!!I really pitty all those pretty Thai girls that have no other choice then to lower their expactations of life and resort to you fuglies.There are plenty of good looker's out there who would have them if olny Thailand had some social systems in place for its people.Oh well there are plenty to go around i guess bought or not!To most of you guys who have such double standards, get a real life you bloody losers!!In the real world your all laughed at by men and women!!

June 16, 2006 5:21 PM

phil H says:

I remember an Irish girl back in the mid 90's in Pattaya who pulled a bloke out of a Boyz Town Go-Go bar. Quite fit he was and we all knew him as Number 9. She shacked up with him for a while but I don't think it panned out well for her. Last I saw of her she was pennyless and on a massive visa overstay refusing all offers of a funded exit from LOS. Just shows, men in Thailand don't have a monopoly on losing the plot.

About that time the Pattaya Mail, back when it was a paper worth reading, printed a letter from a woman asking where she could go to get a little attention. Their answer was to go to the boys-a-gogo places as a lot of the guys swing both ways. You just don't get that kind of advice in the Maidenhead Advertiser.

So laughing out loud calls us guys Fuglies as well. Typical woman, can't come up with anything original. Anyway laughing gal I don't call farang women fuglies. A lot of them aint fat and aint ugly. I prefer Attitude Infested Daughters of Slags, it's more accurate.

July 21, 2006 1:39 PM

susan Worthing says:

What a lot of crap. Thai men are huge,they would not get a job in a bar otherwise.Men believe anything thailadys tell them and they all have Thai boyfriends A,not ugly 30year old farang women

September 6, 2006 9:27 PM

a thai guy says:

well thanks, Susan.

glad to hear that you've had revealing experiences with thai men. personally, i also have had several farang women, make similar comments to me (not boasting, just stating a fact).

you're right, those are just crap rumours , that was started by thai girls, who only wanted to boost the egos of farang guys.

so Susan, please do us thai guys a big favour, by spreading the truth about us, to all your farang female friends.

thanks a lot!

September 8, 2006 12:08 PM

philH says:

Yes Susan please do, then all the girls can go to Thailand for a shag and then they'll stop whinging about the blokes that do the same.

Just after that the Americans, Israelis, Palestinians, Arabs, Koreans and Cubans will all do a big group hug and say how much they love everybody.

And then some multi-national pharmaceutical company will develop a cure for HIV/AIDS and in a huge philanthropic gesture will issue it free to the whole world.

Way up there in the heavens some vast sentient being staring down the microscope will think "Bollocks, I was just enjoying that. Oh well another experiment down the tubes".

Soon after an asteroid smashes into planet Earth vapourising all life forms except for a bunch of tiny shrimp like creatures at the bottom of the Marianas Trench. One turns to the other "Boy does that guy piss me off when he does those mass extinctions. Now we'll have to start all over again".

September 8, 2006 2:41 PM

Paddy O'Ffialle says:

If Thai men are so huge why are Thai condoms so small?

September 8, 2006 5:45 PM

Andy says:

thai guy. you are hung like a chinese mouse. your sister told me. susan; keep trawling the gay bars. when you actually dare sample the merchandise or even eventually come to thailand you might be qualified to comment. Worthless.

September 8, 2006 8:14 PM

Andy says:

laughing out loud is probably what you do annoyingly at around 130 decibels between chain-smoking and chugging Diamond Whites down your fat neck. Hoping you get a sympathy fuck sometime soon, sweet hr8. One that doesn't bash your head in with a brick afterwards, that is....

September 8, 2006 8:22 PM

Dick Renegade says:

This article is a load of shit. There is no way in hell that Farang women are flocking to have sex with fit Thai men who engage in gay sex 80% of the time.

NO WAY IN HELL.

Women are more sensative than men to the possibility of contracting STD's. In general, Farang women do not find bisexual male partners socially acceptable. Gay prostitution is a high risk activity and it is not believable that Farang women won't take that into acocunt.

Look at this paragraph in the article: "The sex workers are tested for HIV every four or five weeks. If they do not turn up for work then it means they have had a positive result. Each bar has one or two cases each month."

THERE IS NO WAY a significant population of Farang women will find this acceptable. You would have to be a hardcore sex addict with no respect for your own body.

September 9, 2006 12:13 AM

a thai guy says:

look, i think the gist of what Susan said is that, contrary to popular belief, not all thai men are built small. we come in all shapes and sizes. just like everyone else in the world.

September 9, 2006 6:47 AM

Dick Renegade says:

I don't care if think there are Thai men who have a giant elephant cock swinging back and forth between their legs, this story is complete bullshit.

The author makes extrordinary claims of prolific high-risk gay sex and a staggering rate of HIV infection - claiming each bar has 1 or 2 cases per month. The tone of her piece suggests that these Farang women are not deterred by the idea of shagging a bisexual male prostitute or by the claims staggering HIV infection rate.

This is total bullshit and you are on crack if you think the main reason Farang women would even consider such a rough trade would be the fact (as you would like to advertise) that Thai men have large penises.

You are full of shit. THERE IS NO WAY a significant population of Farang women will find this acceptable. You would have to be a hardcore sex addict with no respect for your own body to persue a gay Thai gigolo.

I can hear the Farang women now:

Pudgy Watkins: "Hey BiG Boy, when you are done flirting with those fudge packers over there, I would love to buy to a drink and maybe take you home so you can stick that Thai elephant cock of yours in my mound of roast beef."

You and the author are completely full of shit.

September 9, 2006 11:30 AM

a thai guy says:

Dick,

neither Susan nor i have suggested that, there are loads of farang women who pursue thai guys in gay bars.

we were merely saying that, contrary to popular belief, not all thai guys are small. just like every other man in this world, thai guys also come in various shapes and sizes.

that's all we've said. nothing more.

September 10, 2006 1:13 AM

Snell says:

I agree with Dick on some parts. I don't think this article is true and in all fairness, everyone knows thai men have small funny colored penises. Let's not kid ourselves.

Thai Guy, if your penis is different from mhat I have described, please take a picture and post a link for us.

Thx, Snell

September 10, 2006 11:42 PM

me says:

What is wrong with you farang guys? You buy thai girls all the time and you think it sucks that a farang girl would want to buy a Thai guy who looks way better than you, smells way better, and is better in bed? Oh and by the way Thai guys don't have small dicks. It's just the same as you guys some are big some are small and it's usually the thai-chinese who have the smallest ones. Seen lots of them and didn't have to buy them. And the comment about the small condoms is silly, they have them in different sizes. Just like anywhere else or maybe you didn't notice.

September 19, 2006 3:40 PM

Telemachus says:

Willem Van Amerongen
Your post is yet another fine example of innate Dutch arrogance. It fits so seemlessly into your world view and that of yourselves. I think it's fine to bullshit others but really sad when you start to actually believe your own crap yourself!
P.S. Worked in Netherlands for a bit myself, some girls are pretty but no more or less than the typical European.
Telemachus

November 12, 2006 6:03 PM

Kara says:

I'm from the United States...and well I'm white. I am dating a Thai man and I'll tell you right now...everyone says asian guys have small wangs...but I found out for myself...They aren't little! My sister also goes out with a thai guy...and well she states the same as me.

December 16, 2006 10:22 AM

Yuri says:

What about americain men??? Would farang girls pay an americain for sex??? What is so special about thai men, I would be willing to bet I could go ten times longer than they could in the sack!! Every girl I wind up having sex with can't even keep up with me, because I wear them all out... So if you wanna pay someone for sex, you don't have to look any further!! Just email me!!

Yuri

January 14, 2007 9:06 AM