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August 25 2006

How do the Thais stereotype us?

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I nearly pissed myself laughing when I learned that the Thais refer to England as "Muang poo dee" - the land of high-class people.

Alighting from their vintage Bentley, the first English visitors to Thailand might well have resembled Sir John Gielgud and Dame Judy Dench but, these days, our most visible ambassadors are drunken chav meatheads taking a break from mugging old ladies before returning home, via the Immigration Detention Centre, courtesy of the British taxpayer.

The Thais have a colourful alternative name for most important countries around the world and, today, we learn what they are:

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America

Muang lung sairm: Land of Uncle Sam

Australia

Muang jing joh: Land of kangaroos

Denmark

Muang nom: Land of milk (not breasts)

France

Muang nahm hom: Land of perfume

Germany

Muang beer: Land of beer

Holland

Muang tulip: Land of tulips

Italy

Muang macaroni: Land of macaroni

Japan

Muang plaa dip: Land of raw fish

Korea

Muang gim-ji: Land of vegetable pickle

North Korea

Muang sohm dairng: Land of red ginseng

South Korea

Muang sohm khao: Land of white ginseng

Norway

Maung pra-atit thiang keun: Land of the midnight sun

Portugal

Muang for-ee thorng: Land of egg-based noodle-like sweets

Russia

Muang mee kaow: Land of polar bears

Scotland

Muang whiskey: Land of whiskey

Spain

Muang gratin duk: Land of angry bulls

Sweden

Muang wiking: Land of Vikings

"Name three famous Belgians" represents pub quiz Armageddon (a task made considerably more difficult due to Poirot and Tintin being fictional characters) so it's unsurprising to learn that Belgium has failed to enter the Thai consciousness - along with Canada, New Zealand, Africa, South and Central America, Ireland, Wales, the Isle of Man (I'm sorry, Mick) and the whole of Eastern Europe.

[Posted to Learn Thai by David]

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Readers' comments

Kaltes says:

They must have names for Taiwan, China, and Vietnam, right? Or do they just refer to those countries by their proper names?

I would guess that the names for Taiwan and Vietnam might not be flattering.

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Hi Kaltes. Thailand's familiarity with its immediate neighbours means that they can't be characterised by a single well-known attribute or export - David

sniffer says:

Can someone ask the Thais to translate "Land of self-important short-arsed, pigeon-chested, moustachioed windbags with a chip on their collective shoulders" so they can get a handle on the Welsh? And that's just the women

bangkokram says:

Three famous Belguim's???

Jon Claud van Damm (Shit actor)

Eddy Mercxx (Best ever cyclist)

Marc Detroux (Seriously sick kiddy perv)

I tried to send a parcel to Belguim the other day, the poor assistant had never heard of it. I had to point it out on the map of the world. In the end they just put France down as the destination.

Make nice chocolates though and is the home of Stella Artois, nuff said!

drogon says:

I am belgian about to relocate to Thaïland.

Just to say that if Germany is know for its beers then it is a big mistake.
We have far more different beers than them......so we deserve the title for
"land of beer"

Also, french fries is wrong, we should say belgian fries...
Anyway, we are still known for chocolate

Dana says:

My experience is that the average or below average Thai would not know any(most) of these geographic monikers. The xenophobic insularity and geographic ignorance of the average Thai is stunning. Most(all) poorly educated Americans are also geographically ingnorant but in Thailand it is slap your palm to your forehead ignorant. I wonder if when Thai leaders are hosting leaders from other nations if there is a Thai State department official who prompts them where these high ranking important to Thailand officials are even coming from. My guess is no.

sparky says:

Belgian fries ???? i thought they were American

Carrier says:

Yeah, I can well believe that with regard to Ireland. Most conversations I've had over there start with:

"Where you from?"

"I'm from Ireland."

"Holland?"

"No, Ireland."

"Ooo eeee! I love Holland man! Holland man very handsome!"

"No, Irrreeelaaannnd."

"Ohhhh I sorry. England man handsome also!"

"Fuck off with yourself before I give ya a kick up the hole!"

There are over 70 million people plodding around this planet who claim Irish ancestry. Thousands of them pass through Thailand every year. There's Irish pubs all over Thailand and there's Irish whiskey behind every bar. Surely it's not too much to expect that maybe the odd person might have heard that there is such a place??

Pattaya Peter says:

"geographically ingnorant"

At least we can spell Dana!

Kaltes says:

I think every other country has just as many ignorant types as America, one difference is that America is so wealthy, our ignorant types can afford to travel abroad. Compound that with the fact that Europeans have a plethora of great destinations for travel without leaving Europe, whereas in America, well I cant fathom why people would waste their money coming here.

All my friends here love Thailand, even when you take the sex aspect out of it, they love the food, the beaches, etc. The only down side is the long, expensive plane flight.

Pattaya Ivan says:

Russia is no land of polar bears. It land of vodka, mafia and whores. Like thailand but no smiles and no hot weather.

tonychang says:

England-land of high class people....
thats me fucked then

SPQR says:

You know Dana is right; we Americans are just terrible at geography. For example I can never remember which is the 51st State.

Is it Canada or the UK?

Oh wait it's Canada! the UK is the 52nd State. Sort of like Hawaii with all those Islands. See we are terrible at this geography stuff.

I'm sorry Dana, I just couldn't help doing this... I'm just playing please don't kill me.

;-)

Nail says:

What do you mean “Take the sex aspect out of Thailand”… if you do that you get Ireland. And why would the Yanks drag their sorry ass half way around the globe to spend 10 minutes in a pseudo-temple and, as for beaches; gimme a break. Forty years ago I remember my dad and his buddies joking about having a new thai for Christmas. Lets face it; Thailand is Sexland; period.

philH says:

Agree with Dana, the average Thai person's geographical knowledge of Thailand is next to zero let alone the rest of the world.

One time driving up country with my TGF I got to a junction where I wasn't sure which way to go. No problemo, I had bought a road map only the day before.

"Road Map of Thailand. Scale blah blah blah" it said on the wrapping. Ripped it open......everything in Thai, not a bluddy word in English! So, being unable to read Thai at the time (not much better now), I showed it to said GF, "show me where we are. Where is that town on the signpost?" Not a bluddy clue, not a spark, lost!

When a Thai bar girls asks "Where you from?" you could answer Burkina Faso, San Salvador, Kalaallit Nunaat anywhere, it doesn't matter, they haven't a clue.

Showed some girls a couple of geosat photographs I'd got of the UK and S.E. Asia. No reaction at all. I pointed to roughly where Pattaya was and said "We are here". I could see by the reaction they were thinking "Stupid farang! No we not, we in bar".

Common Sense says:

I would have to disagree with you that every other country has as many ignorant types as America. It seems that all the other countries send their ignorant citizens to America an then proceed to talk shit about us.

On that subject I always read on here about how rude and and obnoxious Americans are. I say look in the damned mirror because Euro-trash are about the biggest bunch of dicks I have ever met. It never fails that anytime i run into them in a bar that they immediately go on a rant about Americans or our foreign policy and proceed to talk shit to me even though I had done nothing but try to have a neutral conversation with them. So all you Euro-trash out there keep your fuckin mouth's shut. When I'm in a bar staring at tits and ass I think it's pretty fuckin gay for you to start lecturing me about America's foreign policy or how much you hate American's; thinking it's a perfectly acceptable conversation. Take a lesson from the Australian's, the majority of them can at least hold a civilized conversation without acting like a dick.

Johnny says:

Reminds me of an interesting conversation I had with an apartment full of brown bunnies that were friends with my girlfriend. They were showing me their portfolios of guys that they had correspondance with and wanted me to read and sometimes translate for them. Let it be known that they were proud and respectful, for the guys involved. For these girls there was only one main guy at a time too. The correspondance was refreshingly honest too, some of the guys had found other partners too and let the girl know. They also showed me the folders from a girl that had meet someone and had moved to Hong Kong with an American man, she also let the other guys that were in correspondance know. I had a bit of a heart start when I saw my own attache too, it had all the photos and emails printed out that I had sent my honey and she had a "proud of her work but humble and slightly embarassed" expression on her face as she shifted about whilst smiling a little and looking down a touch. I didn't see any other folders in her goody bag that was stored at the apartment. Anyway, I had realised that they couldn't quite distinguish between different accents, so I started reading the emails using the accents of the guys involved, they definitely recognised that there are different accents and they laughed at each change of accent. Then they were putting in requests to say the same thing but in different accents each time. They definitely recognised the Irish accent (as they laughed loudly and quickly chatted), carrier will be pleased to know, they also recognised the varying Europeans speaking in English accents, I think I kind of lost them (and my Aussie self) when I attempted to do all the known English accents, that is hard for an Aussie that hasn't lived there before, but they couldn't tell how crap at it I was, a few of the various English accents got some big laughs as they recognised people they must know (like the husband of their boss, Lin)I got some strange looks when I attempted to explain that there are many different accents in England and a few different ones in America too.

Eniac says:

"It never fails that anytime i run into them [Europeans] in a bar that they immediately go on a rant about Americans..."

"Common Sense" - You have overstated your case to the extent that you sound like a crying girl. Go back to your trailer and take a Valium.

Your claim that "all" Europeans would forgo "staring at tits and ass" in favour of initiating a lively discussion about American foreign policy is bordering on the delusional.

Eniac says:

Here's a more constructive take on Anglo-American relations:

Beatles webcam helps foil burglary

LONDON (Reuters) - An American helped foil a burglary in northern England whilst watching a Beatles-related webcam over the Internet, police said Friday.

The man from Dallas was using a live camera link to look at Mathew Street, an area of Liverpool synonymous with the Beatles and home to the Cavern Club where the band regularly played.

He saw intruders apparently breaking into a sports store and alerted local police.

"We did get a call from someone in Dallas who was watching on a webcam that looks into the tourist areas, of which Mathew Street is one because of all the Beatles stuff," a Merseyside Police spokeswoman said.

"He called directly through to police here." Officers were sent to the scene and three suspects were arrested.

sniffer says:

I would have thought there were plenty of other sites for posters such as "Common Sense" to argue the toss over exactly how vile Americans are. That's what the internet was invented for, wasn't it? That, and photos of women having sex with farmyard animals.
Mr. Common Sense loses credibility, anyway, for his use of 'gay' as an insult and his random use of apostrophes

bangkokram says:

Common Sense (Or lack of it) Your country must be proud of your diplomacy skills!

Next time a member of the Euro Trash gives you grief, just say "I'm sorry that my country continually embarks on pre-emptive military strikes on the pretext of saving the free world. I know they only do it to safeguard their own business interests and have a total disregard for the feelings of any other country on earth except Israel. But please leave me alone i'm trying too watch the Titty Show"

That should do it.

TokyoVigilante says:

As a Romanian I had a terrible time in Thailand explaining where I was from. So I ended up saying I was Italian - Romanians' look and language are close enough to Italians'.

That, until I realized that the two elderly gentlement living next door to me were Italians - and they were bringing 3-4 different girls every night for loud nighttime action! No wonder the TG I was talking to at the time raised her eyebrows when she heard I was 'Italian'.

When I went to the Dominican Republic, most of the guys on the plane were also Italians, and all their conversations seemed to revolve around 'ragazze'.

Oh, and I am not trying to stereotype anyone here :) I just found it funny, there has to be some truth to the expression 'Italian stallion'.

Lewis says:

Yes, 'Common Sense,' many of we Europeans are proud of our incomparable ability to gradually piss off low-life, culturally-ignorant American 'patriots' like you. Your post is soaking with a very obvious, self-righteous lack of understanding of the lethal consequences of your childish government's violent foreign policies on other countries. Otherwise you would realize why so many of these Europeans that you meet are so concerned.

If the Europeans and other enlightened people want to teach one of those 'frog-in-the-well'-type Americans any lessons in realpolitik, geography or in international relations, then I say they very well should, as much as possible in fact.

Maybe nagging these guys wherever we go will gradually annoy them to the point that even their redneck, under-educated, low-IQ military folks start withdrawing troops from countries out of irritation.

Thus through the power of annoyance, we will have saved many civilian lives worldwide. No small feat there.

Most Yanks still have a "pre-21st century" mindset, not understanding that all nations are interconnected now, and not realizing that it is losing even its most competitive edges to China, India and the EU. A little internationalism in the United States might make them realize how much they are constantly endangering other countries through their childish lack of understanding of the world.

altoid says:

Q:

1)Isn't assuming that all Americans support all of the US foreign policy decisions just as ignorant?
2) Particularly the ones who choose to not live there.

In case some others need a geography lesson, the US is a big country that has a lot of people.* 3) Maybe they don't all agree with each other? 4) Maybe some of them living abroad have heard all these rants before?

A:

1. yes
2. just perhaps, yes
3. duh
4. I know I have
*3,679,192 square miles (9,529,063 square km). Population (1993 est.) 258,233,000

Derukugi says:

Lewis:
[[[very obvious, self-righteous lack of understanding of the lethal consequences of your childish government's violent foreign policies on other countries. ]]]

Oh, can you get off it, please? The waffling, wavering, defeatist, appeasing crowd that runs European countries is hardly something to be proud of, either.
Enjoy your bragging, while Europe slowly but steadily slips turns into into an islamic sub-continent wheren women are burkaed and Jews not welcome. You can visit suburbs of Paris or Amsterdam to have a glimpse of your future.
Sheesh! This is a nice, board here, the last thing I want to see is more pathetic, baseless European US-bashing.
(And yes, I am European, too.)

nekochan says:

Literally, Muang poo dee means "land of the noble people". "Poo Dee" is not actually high class, but well-mannered & educated people.

It may have started since Victoria's era.

If you can read Thai, most of these words appear in sport newspaper with sensational headlines. Just like in the west when 3 lions is England, Azzurri is Italy etc.

Sometimes Thais use different words for.

Muang Kang Han (Land of wind mill-Holland)

The Ngheun? : Vietnam (Typical Vietnam's lastname)

Muang Mank Korn: Land of the Dragon (China)

Muang Mong: Burma (Burmese lastname)

sniffer says:

altoid and derukaga: I disagree with you absolutely but I would defend to my death your right to express your views, to misquote Voltaire. Having said that, I'm not sure mangosauce is the best forum for this debate. Can't you migrate over to somewhere like The Guardian website, which is one among many sites appropriate for this kind of discussion and leave this one to posters' thoughts on why fat, whining farang munters are inferior to gorgeous but tricksy Thai babes? That is, after all, what this forum's all about. I've been as guilty as anyone else in prolonging this and the previous thread but enough is more than enough

the yank says:

"Most Yanks still have a "pre-21st century" mindset, not understanding that all nations are interconnected now, and not realizing that it is losing even its most competitive edges to China, India and the EU. A little internationalism in the United States might make them realize how much they are constantly endangering other countries through their childish lack of understanding of the world."

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here. If it the United States didn't work with almost every country in the world to help strengthen their economies, help defend them in times of war, or re-build after natural disasters, there would be absolutely ZERO competition for us. I love to hear the bashing on the United States, especially from people who live in countries that wouldn't exist if United States wasn't there to bail them out. (EUROPE/half of asia) And as for not understanding that all nations are interconnected, pfft come on... that is ridiculous. We have the most people from any country in ours alone. You can literallly find huge communities of every race/nationality in America. If anything we are interconnected more then anyone else. It's the liberalist nations and countries outside of ours who are trying to chop us down at the knees. The top dawg is always the BAD GUY, that's how it always is. Funny thing is, if the United States was to stop helping the WORLD we would get bashed for that. We're always expected to help and always bashed if we do by someone. Then, when there is a situation where the states needs any kind of assistance, the true colors of all the countries we have assisted come pouring out. What do we get in the end, LOUD MOUTH FOREIGNERS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT and we end up do everything ourselves with minor assistance from our "allies". Come to America and experience it for yourselves before you bash it. I don't bash anything I don't know about, I suggest you haters in this forum do the same thing.

dhiren says:

Why do u farangs make joke of other countries here...fucking shit topics...Useless discussions....your brains are all spoiled. Can't you all discuss something useful here...Why that Son of a Mega Bitch(SOMB)Bush giving cluster bombs to Israel to kill the innocent children in southern lebanon or Why that SOMB is attacking Iraq and so on....Use your time for something valuable, not by moking others or making fun of others....

David says:

Gentlemen - Please bear in mind that this forum is about Thailand and not American foreign policy - David

American says:

Funny David.

Ya, I don't usually think about the fact that I'm American. But I know I can't help it. I hate stereotypes, though.

I was a history major so I figure I have a better-than-average knowledge of world affairs, etc. I'm quite good at geography, too.

So, please don't stereotype. It's childish.

Also, I don't see how the average citizen is responsible for it's nation's foreign policy. I'm pretty sure a lot of Brits are in opposition to their government being major players in Iraq. Basically, Blair is a co-partner with Bush in this war. So I don't think any Brits can bash on America's foreign policy without taking a look at their own country.

Sorry, I know it's about Thailand. Perhaps country bashers should keep it to the bars, ha ha.

Common Sense says:

David,
I apologize for turning this forum into a discussion about U.S. foreign policy, but on that note what pushed me to post my message was the original topic about how the Thai's stereotype foreigners. Throughout the forum, I noticed several posts by smart asses who were stereotyping Americans while at the same time complaining about how the Thai's stereotype them. This reminded me of the last time I was in Thailand and had to deal with quite a few Europeans who just could not keep there damned mouths shut and enjoy their surroundings. Hell, I even ran into several people from the Middle East and not once did I get any shit from them. I would think they have more of a right to say something than Europeans do. I find the same to be true where I live in Japan. Again David I apologize.

Now for the rest of you fuck wads.

Sniffer,
For a straight man, being called gay would be an insult, and just because you only fancy the lady boys doesn’t make you and less gay. Now wonder you feel the word is not insulting. Pull the dick from your ass. Oh and trying to discredit my argument because of my use of apostrophes. Come on now. Do you know what a fallacy is? Quit trying to act educated you douche bag.

bangkokram
The next time some Euro trash gives me any grief I will do as I have always done and tell them to fuck off and continue watching the titty show. Thailand is for vacationing and wild sex. There is a time and place for everything and a titty bar in Thailand is not the place for discussions about U.S. policy as much as this is not the place. If the Europeans would learn that then I would not have a problem with them.

For those of you who do think that a titty bar in Thailand is a great place to start such a conversation at least try to do it in a respectful manner. Starting a conversation with “you ignorant fucking Americans just think you own the world don’t ya” is never going to lead to anything but some harsh words or a fight in that setting. Again, Thailand is a spot for sex and relaxation. Leave the political opinions at home gent’s and it will be a much more enjoyable time. Now let’s all go enjoy some of the nice rice paddy boxes we all love so much.

The obnoxious American asshole!!!!!

Eniac says:

Apologies for this one, David, but we can't put this topic to bed without considering the views of one former US president.

"Carter raps Blair over Bush

London: Former US president Jimmy Carter lashed out at British Prime Minister Tony Blair yesterday for being 'so compliant and so subservient' to the Bush administration in Washington. 'I have been surprised and extremely disappointed with Tony Blair's behaviour' Mr Carter told The Sunday Telegraph newspaper. 'I think that, more than any other person in the world, the prime minister could have had a moderating influence on Washington and he has not' said the 81-year old former head of state - AFP."

As regards Europeans taking American right-wing extremists to task, it would seem that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

sniffer says:

To "American" and other Americans. A lot of British posters to this board are all too aware that our country is a largely unpleasant place lead by a hypocritical chancer. That's one of the reasons why so many of us live in Thailand, Japan or similar, although the quantity and quality of available lasses might have rather more to do with it. David regularly posts articles or makes asides that are derogatory about British culture and I guess a lot of us laugh and nod our head in agreement. While it's nice to know that some Americans are critical of their govt.'s foreign adventures, their postings under this article only serves to reinforce the widely-held belief that you come from the land of humourless twats

sniffer says:

Common Sense writes that "For a straight man, being called gay would be an insult" Am not sure I agree. Instead, I would have thought that someone stuck in the closet and horrified by their sexuality might throw around the term "gay" as a pitiful attempt to deflect attention from their self-loathing. Nowt wrong with being gay, Common Sense, my old mate. Remember; 'be out, be loud, be proud'

the yank says:

[Common Sense, my old mate. Remember; 'be out, be loud, be proud']

hahahaha

Lewis says:

Derukugi,
The Islamic immigration of some 15 million to 18 million people is not exactly swamping Europe’s population of more than 500 million.

Common Sense,
The United States wouldn't exist if France didn't "bail it out" with military and financial backing in the late 1700s. Don't forget that your Statue of Liberty was a gift from France, either.

Make no mistake: America rose to dominance on the back of European money.

bangkokram says:

Sniffer.

I couldn't have put it better myself!

Lost in Any Land says:

Dear people,

The United States of America (USA) is the only country in the world that doesn't have a proper name. Instead, they 'stole' the name of a continent: America.

America is the name of a whole landmass that spans from the frigid Northwestern Territories of Canada to the almost equally frigid waters surrounding Puerto Williams down the Chilean Patagonia/Tierra del Fuego. No such idea of "The Americas" could be consider adequate, as the American continent was named after only one Portuguese cartographer: Americo Vespusio. The history doesn't record to be others 'Americos' to offer their names to additional continents or subcontinents.

Not even the term 'North America' is a name that could be correctly applied to the USA. The geographic extension of North America is shared by 5 countries: Canada, USA, Denmark (as the rulers of Greenland), France (St. Pierre and Miquelon Islands)and Mexico.

Talking about an "American" to reffer to an USA citizen is as vague as using "European" to name an, let say, Andorran or a Macedonian, since an 'American' could be either an Argentinean, Chilean, Brazilian, Dominican, Nicaraguan, Belizan, Cuban, Bolivian, Mexican or Canadian, to name some few nationalities that populate the referred continent.

In most, if not all, the Spanish speaking American continent (Latin-america includes Brazil, that speaks Portuguese, and technically Quebec, that speaks French, a latin language, but excludes Belize, an English speaking country; Hispanic-america also includes Spain; Ibero-america includes the European Iberic peninsula -Portugal, Andorra and Spain-) the easist way to name an USA citizen is by the nickname 'GRINGO', without any derogatory meaning (See the movie 'Gringo Viejo' with Sean Connery). Indeed, the name of "GRINGO-LAND" ('Tierra de los Gringos', in Spanish) seems to be not appropiated, neither worthy of proud by their bearers.

In any case, I think that the things should be named by its name. One of the biggest challenges that the USA has in its task of the national iconographyc and philosophical construction is to find a proper name that only reffers to the citizens of that country.

Re-wording U2... "Where the countries have No Name".

devvo says:

get yer rat out get yer rat out
sweating like a beaver

me mate lee necks e's like you won't beleez, jailbait pleez

summer is here, and its fuckin fuckin buzzin

have a can of kestrel then i kick me gf's head in

Common Sense says:

Well, even though I tried to put the nationalism to rest, the Euro-Trash in true fashion, just couldn't let it go.

Looks as if there will never be an end to their blabbering bullshit about America in or out of a bar...

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Common Sense - I've deleted the rest of your expletive-ridden posting because I'm tired of people "blabbering bullshit about America." Mango Sauce is NOT the Bangkok Post letters page - David.

Combover says:

Why would anyone be insulted over being thought to be gay? Surely all women are in agreement that gay men look better, dress better and talk better?

Andy says:

Nice of "devvo" ^^ above, to interrupt all the predictable jingoistic baiting with a lovely piece of chav poetry there! Top verse, kidda!

somchai says:

first off, this is not addressed to everyone... just a few individuals...


the amount of racism on this board is unbelievable.

This is Thailand. A poor 3rd world country.

Most of the population never had proper schooling. The education is atrocious.

The government is corrupt.

The super rich class is superficial and apathetic.

And your every day average Thai person, about 90% of the country, is just trying to do the best he or she can with his/her poor education, lack of opportunities -- trying to survive and race a family in the 3rd world.

Are the lot of us ignorant? Yes.
Are the lot of us misinformed? Yes.
Are there a million things wrong with the Thailand? Yes.

What do we need to fix the problem?

Certainly not foreigners from the affluent first world laughing at us, making fun of us, insulting us because we were borned poor in a 3rd world country where there's a lack of education, healthcare, social infrastracture, etc...

And definitely not foreigners who live in Thailand, taking advantage of whatever hospitalities we're able to give you.

We Thais are far, far, far from perfect, but please take a look at yourself in the mirror before you jump onto your high horses.

have a pint and a lady boy and make a toast to your lucky circumstance of birth to have been born and raised in affluent societies.

Us 3rd world people are just trying to do the best we can.

CCRider says:

I truly tried to resist posting anything in affirmation or condemnation of the above diatribe. But being an obstinate American, I must. What most of you twits, American, Euro, Asian, whatever, fail to recognize is that none, and I mean none of us chose where we would be born on the this god-forsaken planet and no matter what our nationality, out of a pure savage and survivalistic response, we will remain loyal to our clan. With that said, I too am loyal to the US, because I chose to be, and I am proud to an American, because I chose to be. But first and foremost, I chose to be a decent human being. A decent human being to almost everyone I encounter. Of course, there are exceptions, from every race, nationality and creed, but for the most part, I chose to find common ground on our similarities, not our differences. Again, with that said, I say let’s all choose to be decent human beings, if not to each other, at least to what brought us all here…to the beautiful Thai women, and our love of the pursuit and the thrill of avoiding being bested by them. And, lastly, in the words of one of America’s most treasured masters of prose and escape, Rodney King, “Can’t we all just smoke a bong?”

the yank says:

David,
Even though you are trying to put an end to the off topic discussion, I have to say this whole battle of the words was pretty funny. It just goes to show how diferent people think even though we all have the same thing in common, going to thailand for R&R. haha

Thai Guy says:

david
i never feel need post before but i agree with the yank. this topic was funny so i try not to pea myself. let the crazy farang keap fite. now they not say bad to the thai people just themsalves. vary vary funny i cant stop read!!!!!

ozricmann says:

“Take the sex aspect out of Thailand” if you do that, you get Ireland.

"excellent"

“Well back to the original thread”


How thais see us...... I have just asked this girl what she thinks,this is from the girl next to me in the internet shop,

who says:


1. the Africa man smell too mut and taxi dont go with them he like go boom-boom too mut wit no condom and want to no pay.

2. the italy make to loud and rude.

3. the jerman like ladyboy and like make restaurants.

4. the english soooooooo ugly, mut have have hansom man dawid becqam

5. the arobs like lady boom-booui.

6. the japanese wery generous and like take two or three lady.

7. the swiss mut be very cold, and like make resturant.

8. the american like think we like go wit them for free, we dont.

9. the canadians like think this also.....but is because its true.

10.the scandanavians like buy beer-bar and make restaurant.

11. the dutch like thai whisky and make rearry big house here.

12. ecuse wee……where at Poland?

13. the iwish left Thailand many weers ago to go nig-noi iwand

14. the austawlians like beer – bar too mut, make dirty in toilet.

15. the Indian sell many t-shirt and socks here can make for if you want so can look like hansom man.

stu_$ says:

hey common sense
i'm an australian and i want to sit with you and watch the boobies : )

Common Sense says:

Oh come on David you deleted the best part of my post. Probably for the better though although i nearly cried laughing while writing it. You gotta give me points for the creativity of my expletives though. hahaha.

stu_$
I'd gladly drink a beer and watch some boobies with you while discussing the various positions I plan on screwing whichever young lady i select for the night. Ahhh to have a truly thought worthy conversation with a foreigner in thailand.

ozricmann
I'm guessing your a Canadian since this is the only country that the young lady next to you had a favorable opinion of. The girlies always know the right thing to say to the right people when applying their stereotypes don't they. Although the bad spelling and grammar combined with the perfectly numbered comments raises a few flags as to who the true author is.

KoolKing says:

just read this yesterday:

"Thai bargirl asks customer, where you from?; Customer answers Isle of Man; Bargirl very disappointed looking and leaves him, returns shortly with Thai man in tow; smiling again she says he love man too!!!

the yank says:

Now that is hilarious. I'll be in Bangkok in early september and I would glady have this conversation with anyone here willing to do so:

"drink a beer and watch some boobies with you while discussing the various positions I plan on screwing whichever young lady I select for the night"

hahahaha

ozricmann says:

stu...

im english and not canadian but in fact not at all that ugly.

i have wrote the comment in the way many thai's speak english as it usually of the broken sort.

there was a girl there who i later went to her bar for a drink with and im guessing she was checking her bank account ie. farang guy in another country.

it does seem whenever i go onto an internet cafe, all the thai girls are on hotmail rubbing thier hands with glee or on msn messenger getting their tits out on the web-cam, belive me i have seen it and much much more!

these girls are NOT shy.!

JD says:

At the risk of getting the topic back to USA bashing, I'd like to share with you my first experiences of traveling to America. I'd like to think that I am I very objective, tolerant and reasonable person. I'm also from Europe. Perhaps my points may in some way be interesting to the American readers on this site

My first significant experience was in planning my trip to Hawaii whilst in a hostel in Auckland, New Zealand. I borrowed the Hawaii guidebook that the hostel had sitting behind the reception desk. This was from a fairly well known series of travel guides. In the preface it stated "everyone should visit Hawaii at some time in their life". As Hawaii sits in the middle of the Pacific Ocean I thought this was a fairly bold statement. I went on to read: "Hawaii is the most exotic place you can visit without a passport". I then realised, of course, by "EVERYONE" the author actually meant Americans! A pretty narrow perspective for someone writing a travel guide you would think!

When in Hawaii I played golf. All non-Americans were charged at least a third more than Americans to play on the same course. If you come to the UK, golf courses have one pricing structure for all nationalities!

I tried to book a return flight to another Hawaiian island on the Internet. I got as far as entering my payment details then was told I could not book the flight because I did not have an American credit card. I phoned the two main airlines operating inter-island flights. Both of them told me that I could not book a flight because they would not accept any of my non-American credit cards and that I should call in to my travel agent. I told them I was already on Oahu and didn't have a travel agent here. I phoned the recommended travel agent in the Lonely Planet guide. They didn't take non-American credit cards. After wasting the whole day, I finally found a friendly local travel agent who would take my internationally accepted VISA card and flew over to the Big Island. EVERY single time I took a flight in America I would get SSSS on my boarding card and have to wait in an extremely slow queue to go through the very high security check. Even if I had two short flights in one day, each time I would need a full screening for explosives. I nearly missed my flight twice due to this.

Whilst in America I tried to call home using pay phones. American pay phones don't work for calling abroad. If you don't believe me - just try it. This is meant to be the greatest nation in the world but you cannot make a call overseas using a pay phone. I have used pay phones the world over. America's are the worst in the world. If you ask an American how to phone abroad they don't have a clue. You actually have to use the international code just to call another state in America. If you tell the operator you would like to put some money in the phone and call abroad they are baffled. IF you are lucky they will put you through to another company that will connect your international call at an extortionate rate, so long as you give them a credit card number. If you are lucky they will take your non-American credit card!

I have to say that I really did like many aspects of America and I found the people to be extremely nice and friendly, but I really do think that it is a FACT that Americans live in a bubble!

Common Sense says:

JD,
Here are a few pointers. If you want to call overseas using a pay phone use a calling card. The rates are much cheaper and this can be done from any type of phone. This is how most Americans do it. Dial the 800 number, enter your pin, select 2 for international call, and dial the number. Fairly simple I think.

ALso Hawaii is an international travel destination. I've never been there so i can't refute the different pricing for foreigners but i've never heard of this practice anywhere else in the states. I do know that hawaii and las vegas have differnt pricing for tourists from anywhere outside of the local community though. Even Americans. It's crooked as shit if you ask me.

As far as airport security goes. I'm in the Marine Corps and even when i fly in uniform i sometimes get selected for the extra security screening. It's not cuz your a foreigner it's just our policy. If you want to know the way we do it. If you want to know why just google September 11 and i'm sure it will be obvious.

Now just because we have a different way of doing things don't mean we live in a bubble. You just lack the experience to figure these things out. Oh and get an American credit card.

JD says:

Common Sense,

I agree with some of your points regarding security. However, when you are of British nationality, have no criminal record, no middle eastern stamps in the passport nor any from Muslim nations other than Malaysia (no intention to stereotype here!), have never had any intention of harming anyone in your life, then it does feel frustrating to be labeled a high security risk for your entire stay in the US. If I had received this treatment once or twice then I probably wouldn't have mentioned it at all but on all seven flights, it does feel excessive. A sympathetic American in the queue behind me once suggested that I was getting selected on every flight because all my flights were one-way. If this is the case, then I think the criteria is wrong as this is singling out every person who is taking the time to visit and travel around your country as a potential terrorist threat. Also, I fully agree with carrying out a thorough screening for weapons, such as those used in the 9/11 attacks, but the thing that takes the time is the explosives screening. When you've traveled from a sleepy village on The Big Island of Hawaii to Honolulu and on to LA, and have emptied your rucksack twice and had all your possessions wiped down and analysed twice for explosives residue, it does feel excessive. I don't know what the answer is, but if anything they have to make it quicker. The security personnel act in a very casual manner and there are not enough personnel when a big queue builds up. Sprinting to departure gates with a 20-kilo rucksack on your back, waving and hollering, is not my idea of a relaxing tip!

I appreciate the gravity of the 9/11 attacks. I spent a very somber few hours at the twin-towers site when in NY. In the UK we have our own terrorist threat. Also, before the latest threat grew, we underwent a prolonged bombing campaign perpetrated by the IRA. Unfortunately, significant funding for the IRA's campaign came from sympathisers in America, who probably spared little thought for what it was like to live or work in London during this time. This is not a generalisation. I appreciate this would have been a very small minority of Americans.

Regarding the phone-cards, I tried many of those too. Some were OK but expensive. Some just didn't work at all and were expensive! The ones in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon just didn't work at all when calling Thailand. After complaining, I did get my money back on one phone-card after it had connected me three times for about 2 seconds each time and charged me $10! One night in NY, when I wanted to make a call but didn't fancy wandering the streets trying to find a late night convenience store, I thought I'd be clever and buy some international calling time over the internet to use from the comfort of my hotel room. I hooked up on to the hotel WI-FI with my laptop, paid the minimum $10 for the connection, searched out a few hours of international talk-time at a good rate - then guess what I couldn't pay for them with my non-American credit card! Shoes and coat on, out on the streets looking for a store, thinking "aagh! I just want to make a phone call!"

The credit card situation is not easily resolved as by "American credit card", I mean a credit card with an American billing address. This basically means anyone who isn't American can't buy stuff!

SE Asia is great but, despite the problems above, I would still definitely go back to America for a holiday and have vague plans to go back to California to take advantage of your long Ski season and fantastic national parks. It aint all bad in the bubble!

Welsh man says:

Sniffer, you prick. Meet you anytime and spark you out! Just name the place and bring your army with you!

sniffer says:

Hello Welsh man! Is "spark you out" the same as "talk you to death with tedious chip-on-your-shoulder rubbish"? You'll be bringing the Sons of Owen Glendower, I presume?

Welsh man's girlfriend says:

Me no work the baaaaahh!!!

bleet bleet

Ken says:

On two seperate occasions, within a span of 30 years, Americans had to mobilize their armed forces and go overseas to bail western Europeans out of a serious messes - otherwise they'd all be flying around in blimps dressed in leiderhousen.
The U.S. has made some stupid mistakes in foreign policy lately, but on many fronts they're front and center at the vanguard of doing what's right - and the rest of the decent countries in the world are dozing at the sidelines or reluctantly toeing the line. Examples: Iran and N.Korea (nuclear build-up), Sudan/Somalia/former Yugoslavia (ethnic cleansing), Burma/Zimbabwe (oppressive juntas). How many governments came out publically to condemn Lesotho's leader for buying a fleet of Mercedes and a jumbo jet while his citizens were drowning in AIDS and poverty? Answer: One, the USA. The US is also one of the few countries which welcomes the Dalai Lama and the President of Taiwan with open arms. Very few countries in the world have the cojones to stand up to China to do that. Next time you realize you're not bowing to a photo of a descendant of Hirohito or Hitler, pat an American on the back and say, "thanks for being there when we needed you."

Jack Wow says:

Ken

the USA has, for along while, only had one agenda - that is being the world's only superpower. By bailing out Western European countries it has achieved this; not because you gave a shit about us. As for N.Korea and Iran building up nuclear stockpiles, as worrying as this may be, only one nation has ever used its nuclear capabilities in war.

Sorry, David, I know this has little to do with your original article, and I don't usually get involved in this anti-American foreign policy bashing, but it's late and I've got nothing better to do.

BTW the quality of Sexy Thai girls! Show me another! keeps getting better. Keep up the good work.

PS, should your photographer ever fall sick I'd be happy to step in.

Common Sense says:

Jack Wow,
Get an education and try to at least be knowledgeable about events of the past before posting.

khon thai says:

You Irish bloke.
if you got mad because of people here don't get that you're from Ireland not England.

We're sick too, of
"Where are you from?"
"Thailand"
"Oh! Taiwan!!"
"No, THAILAND"
"oh ok, you speak Chinese?"

fuck, we hate it too. Alright?

f in l says:

poster 1: tit

poster 2: tat

this continues ad nauseum

Telemachus Rhade says:

I visited Thailand (Bangkok) in 2003, wonderful place. Met a girl called Oom who stole my virginity in a metaphorical sense. Been dying to go back and meet some more of her pals. Anyhow I digress. Oh this is on topic by the way! I worked in Japan for a while and am from Ireland. 90% had no clue the country existed.
Normally I ended up having to tell most Asian educated and the like, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese I am English just so they got the neighbourhood I was from!
Now, while on holiday in Bangkok. I was up Koh San Road area (Horrible place, backpackers, etc) stopped to look at some of the orchids (not gay, no really...)
and this thai guy was tending to them. We struck up a conversation and he asks where I am from. I say Ireland. Next thing, to my absolute shock, starts asking me how I am in really good Irish (Old Gaelic) and telling me welcome to Thailand. I can barely speak Irish. Apparantly his friend had taught him a lot. Might not seem like much but surprised the shit out of me!

Cymro says:

Sniffer, you are a digrace and only bring shame to your fellow English people. Unfortunately, I've met dozens of idiots like you who have some kind of racist stereotype phobia about the Welsh. You're completely boring.

David, I'm surprised you allow posts like sniffer's to pollute your otherwise fine website.

With contributions like his I suppose I should look on the bright side and, like millions of others from around the world, thank God that I am not English.

slb says:

Ivan, leave Russia alone. If you as little as shagged some miserable Moldovan or Ukranian whore(s) in Moscow, do not fool yourself and others into thinking that you could generalize about the nation.

Saucy Sam says:

Of course the Thais have heard of Ireland! The thing is their acknowlegement of this country is soo ingrained in Thai society that it is completely overlooked. Maybe you think I am telling you a load of rubbish, but just ponder on this fact ...
Why do you think culivated rice is grown in .... Paddy fields?!!

jimi says:

i find it disturbing that so many people in this room are debating the rights and wrongs of US foreign policy, without seeing the wrong in going to a poor country to exploit women for sex, by throwing them a few cents.
if we spent a little more time helping and understanding and a little less time mocking and taking advantage then we may b a little better positioned to hold george bush to account.
the way some people use whatever little power they've got sickens me. working a shitty little job and saving for that trip to thailand so u can b treated like a king? is that not abuse of power?
george bush may abuse power on a bigger scale than u but that's only cos he's got more power than u.
irish guy

Pants Elk says:

"Just a few cents"?
Got her number?

Common Sense says:

"Just a few cents"?
You've over paid.

Pants Elk says:

Oh .. *you* pay *her*?

Common Sense says:

Not normally, its more sporty to not pay. Its even funner when you get them to come back for more, and still don't pay.

BioWonk says:

As a wildlife biologist that often volunteers for rehab projects in southern Thailand, I am still amazed by all these EU tourists that drone on and on about global warming and the evil americans lust for consumption. And yet, it's these holier than thou tourists that leave the trail of cigarette butts and the trash on the various beaches they deign to visit. (I won' mention that they are just as good as the americans at exploiting impoverished folks forced to prostitute themselves for food and shelter. The worst offenders are the Germans (screamers),Norwegians (pricks) and Swedes (asshats). The aussies might be vulgar, but they will always do the right thing in the end and the Canadians are bloody marvelous with their insistence on helping the staff carry their bags or apologizing when they get ripped off. But, I just wish you people would try and be more respectful of the resources and landscape when you visit. It's bad enough that I have to deal with local poachers and the like but its frustrating to see foreign tourists that should know better purchasing products made from endangered or restricted use species. HOpe a rabid dog bites them, I do. BTW, rabies is on the upswing in Thailand so do be careful.

Dicer says:

BioWonk...well it would be wonderful if cooler, calmer, thoughtful heads prevailed but unfortunately not. I recently had an old fella (of indeterminate northern European nationality) whip out his tool and unload his bladder about five yards away from us on a Koh Chang beach. Right there in broad daylight and in view of hundreds of people on the beach. He was screaming something to his tart as well. Makes you wonder eh? Even the beach dogs would tentatively look around before doing the same. So this sub-canine category needs to be leashed and sent back to dog school. There is a new growth industry. A questionnaire at the airport and the hopeless misfits would get dog coaching before entry.

"Ok boys, now when you are on the beach and you need to peepee what do you do?"

Hans: "I piss on my prostitute."
Cesar: "No Hans, we don’t do that here...maybe in a Bavarian woodland, but not here."
Luigi: "I pissa in the sea"
Cesar:"well, Luigi...how about consideration for fellow swimmers?"
Luigi: "But the whole island push shit out to sea..."
Cesar: "Luigi, you can’t justify your thoughtless actions like that..."
Hans: "I piss on you you annoying Mexican..."
Cesar tucks Hans' head up and tugs the leash...Hans becomes calm.... etc etc.

Anonymous says:

While you guys have been busy throwing around the labels (racist, ignorant, etc) here are some more for you: Sexist. Misogynist. Perverts.

Or how about Zero-to-hero?

The lovely Thai girls wouldnt piss on any of you if you were on fire if they knew what losers you all really are.

How does it feel that these girls are sleeping with your hairy old fat asses for money? How do you are not the only ones to exploit them, but that they have often been rejected by their families, beaten by their pimps or mistreated by johns not as moral as you foreign policy know-it-alls claim to be?

You guys that say Thailand is for wild sex make me sick.

Do something to make the world a better place and drown yourselves.

Pants Elk says:

Nice post, anonymous 11:07. However, I'd like to point out that all the Thai girls I've "slept" with (well, fucked, actually - why the coyness?) have been only too aware of my "loser" status. In the unlikely eventuality of my self-combustion, therefore, I'm quietly confident they'd point the urethral extinguisher in my direction. In fact ... thanks for the idea!

thebamboorat says:

"The lovely Thai girls wouldn't piss on any of you if you were on fire......"

Mr Anonymous, it's my understanding (from what I've been told) that there are establishments in Bangkok where the lovely Thai girls will however piss on you for money.

nick says:

A bunch of shit talking Limeys is how I would describe this site. I think we should let London burn to the ground in the next world war. Let them and the French see if they can actually defend themselves for once. Hell, I think thailand could overtake the smelly french and the genetically challenged Brits if it wasn't for us. Oh yeah, it's called mouthwash and it won't kill you.

Kenn says:

hey calm down nick the dick
You do know if it wasn’t for the French, America would have not won the Revolutionary War;

I am one of those very proud Americans, but I also can not tolerate stupidity; I do not have a problem with any Ethnic, Color, Creed or Race, Except for Rednecks (just kidding) (Kind of)

nick says:

Wow kenny boy, Nick the dick is really original. You must be very intelligent to have thought up that one. I'll take it as a complement though seeing as I have a huge cock. And no I won't send pictures of it to you, so don't ask.

Kenn says:

Hey there Little Nicky Dicky

Don’t flatter yourself;
It seems that your knowledge on American and World History/ Politics is as small as your Intellect,

And there was not anything original in your little rant, we are in tough times globally, this is neither the time nor the place to start spreading your word hate or prejudice against the English or the French or who ever else you just don’t seem to like,


A lot of what the Brits are posting is in a retaliation of stupid comments such as yours and are usually in a good Nature and tongue in cheek comments; I bet you are the type of guy that loves comparing everything and everyone to how great it is where your from, people like you should not travel; and you really need to get a sense of humor,
It is people like you who give America a Bad Name
As for photos, I really don’t do the guy thing , you may get a kick about talking about or dick with Guys and Lady Boys but that just isn’t my thing , you can be proud to being gay, but you will just always be a faggot

this forum is not for our stupid rants; this is suppose to be about the topic above, hopefully I didn't piss in your Cheerios Bitch

nick with the big dick says:

What the fuck is "word hate?" I have to tell you kenny boy your intellect is not nearly as impressive as you think it is. Now go sing god save the queen as your brit bf fucks you in the ass. And please no more "history lessons," I understand every country has it's faults, just like every country has it's share of gutless, shit talking, internet pussies.

Prufrock says:

Nick O'Toole: Anyone who comes on here and assumes what you assume about other posters AND posts under the name you use wishes to create a certain image.

Whether you agree or not, I think we can get consensus on that at least.

Your comment about assessing Kenn's intellect reflect a certain wish to be considered at least smart informed or maybe even witty.
Tough anyway. A bit of a hard case, tight?
You've failed.
But actually, whether true or false in real life, there Nick, you've crated the distinct impression that you're just another stupid and ignorant, no-talent astro-turfer.

You want to know how people like you are perceived, Nick? Well you remind me of Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill the Thrill O'Rieilly.
I doubt that ANYONE wishes THAT on themselves.
Well maybe they're heros to you.
But somehow I doubt it.

nick says:

Dear pufrock, what image are you trying to portray? I'm guessing intellectual snob? Was I close? People who need to create an image of themselves on the internet usually fail, I think we can all agree on that.
Do I want you to think I'm as witty or as charming as you and your pals, not really. I just came here to find out what women in Thailand are like and see if it is somewhere I might want to visit. If it's full of a bunch of smarmy brits I'm thinking no.

Nick says:

Sean Hannity, Bill O'reilly, Ann Coulter? WTF? I hate these people more then you will ever know. A retarded chimp would be a better president than bush.
I'm not sure how I got lumped in with the looney right, but I'm guessing it's because I believe America isn't the only country with a high percentage of assholes.

I would love to see Obama or Edwards become the next president, but I'm guessing no matter what they say or do the GOP will give them hell, as will the rest of the world.

Just don't compare me to christopher hitchens, and I'll develop the image of whatever the opposite of a tosser is. I don't speak britsh ebonics, sorry.

Prufrock says:

Nick, nick, and nick with whatever he's got in his hand, whined: "I just came here to find out what women in Thailand are like and see if it is somewhere I might want to visit

He opened with: "A bunch of shit talking Limeys is how I would describe this site"

And then: ". . the smelly french and the genetically challenged Brits"

And wonders: I'm not sure how I got lumped in with the looney right,

and then: . . . go sing god save the queen as your brit bf fucks you in the ass.

I'm guessing it's because I believe America isn't the only country with a high percentage of assholes

(Where he's wrong again if he's bothered to read the site's blog role.. . . which he claims to have done if his first statement is any indication, or can be taken at face..

As for my being a, what was it? an "intellectual snob"?
I suppose if having read a few books and having the capacity to think on my own and actually attempt to for original thoughts and appreciate the original thoughts of others and to also appreciate the evolving consensus of this blog role as something other than a contradiction that won't be reversed by subsequent world events and in the country I've chosen as a second home well, I guess, yeah, maybe, so what?
But I'm not British and loads of others here aren't and we're not of the same political stripe not to we all have the same amount of time to devote to answering each other's posts.
But I'll tell you this, Buckwheat: I'm delighted to see that the internet has afforded forums like this to people who want to do something other than play games and grab themselves.
So why don't you nicks identify yourselves as one or many or whatever and actually read some of this "shit".

Or is this how you normally introduce yourself to a company of strangers?

fbuom says:

Nick,

Go read my recommendation to Captain America about learning the players.

And above that, I believe you'll find some recommendations on having your posts read, to say nothing of taken seriously once they are read.

You got lumped in with the 'looney right' by using the language of the 'looney right', aka here as Captain America.

fbuom

Nick says:

Hi David,

Having read your site for around a year before posting, I am a little dismayed to see every odd ball on line adopt my name for every comment under the sun.

Gentlemen, please have the balls to post under your own name. They say 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery', but I dont wish to be hog tied and tar brushed when I next get down to BK.

In saying that tho' it sounds sorta fun..

nick stafford says:

Is that better? I'm sorry I didn't take hours of my time reading the blog role, responding to every post I liked or disliked, going back and looking at previous posts so I might be able to catch someone in a lie, responding to stupid rednecks who should bow down to my superior intellect, wondering where the hours went while I tried to come up with some witty retort, trying to, well I'm sure you get the point.

I am glad though that puff went back and showed the atrocities I had commited when I called the french "smelly."

not suprised at the fact that he left out my original post which showed me entering mango sauce with no malice at all.

Identify myself puff? My name is Nick Stafford, I currently have over 2 million dollars in the First National Bank of Hutchinson, KS. More money than you will ever see in your miserable shitty life. My great uncle was William stafford, I'm sure you would know that name being as literate as you are. My father went to Dartmouth and graduated from Tulane medical school. He is now a very rich and a very successful physician. My mother is a college pysch teacher. I could keep going, but why don't you identify yourself puff?

Put down your Harlequen Romance novels puff and respond like a man instead of your usual "shit."

Kenn says:

Once again another post became a culture bashing, I will admit I don’t like the being bashed by American Politics when sitting in a bar, but usually it is not intended to be a direct attack but it is hard to always turn the other cheek per say, I can sympathies with Americans thinking they are on the receiving end of anti-American Views, but you can not always take it personally

These post generally have a sarcastic type of humor which I enjoy and is the reason why I been a fan for few years now , and the one who was posting as “nick” on the original post seems to have quit the problem , and just does not understand why he looks like such a fool and why nobody seems to like his Antics , and for him to use the term ” gutless, shit talking, internet pussies” is quit hilarious since he seems to be just describing himself ,I can say for sure he much rather argue with me on the internet because I know for a fact I would lay his sorry ass out , as I am against friggin idiots, And he sure takes the cake on that ; I do not claim to be a intellect at all , I am just the general working class who happens to do Expat work , and now I am currently in the Middle East , to be precise I am currently in Iraq , and have been through Europe ,Asia and South America, and the biggest asses are generally any one who tries to think his opinion counts more than the Locals and in this case this blog

I am just an ol’ skool oi Punk, and I will be in Bangkok on the 28th, I look forward of a having a few with any one, as Varity is the spice of life, and looking forward to getting My Exploited Tattoo Redone (does any one know a good Shop for touch up and cover ups ?)

And lastly to you “nick” (from the original post) Dude you should see someone about your anger problem before it gets you in Trouble Bitch;

I am sorry David for my involvement in all of this; it just I do not like arrogant post from idiots hiding behind a keyboard

But it is nice to see every one be in agreement that “nick” (from the original post) is an ass with serious penis envy

It is all just in good fun; first round is on me;LOL

Prufrock says:

nick: Thanks for identifying yourself.
I understand your motives for exposing yourself and your family to those on this site you perceive as ... (well, just scroll up and review your own words)

You have more seriously exposed yourself and your family to hoards of felons and potential felons as well as maniacs who are certifiable but who've just not been caught yet.

You're not very smart, "nick"

In fact, the risk of imaging myself as some kind of intellectual snob, I'll just say that what you've done is quite stupid.
Either that or you are not "nick" and you wish to see this guy "nick" harassed and victimized.

If you ARE "nick" you've demonstrated nicely that money isn't everything. You've also demonstrated that you feel your life will improve little by little as your relatives die off.
You sound like an only child.
You sound pathetic.
You sound terribly damaged.

Maybe you should start over.

Kenn says:

Prufrock;
you are so right with you Evaluation, you seem like a man that I would be happy to sit in a bar with and discuss (not argue) the world with


Nick Stafford (xxx) xxx-5115 000Countryxxxx Dr, Hutchinson, KS xxxxx
If This is truly you; since you claim to be from the so called White Collar upper crust of society, then you should relies you don’t give out this kind of personal information, unless you are one of those Stupid Americans you see people post about, there is such a thing called identity theft, and someone with your millions should understand that

The next time I am sitting in a Bar and People start saying how stupid and arrogant American are , I will think back to you Nick Stafford and I will have to agree with them
You are a joke; I pity you

And to get back to the original post (or less conflicted side topic post)
As an American (I do understand that is kind of a narrow minded way of introducing ourselves)
I just tell people the State, New Jersey or I tell them the Nearest City; as everyone one knows New York City

Kenn (last name withheld because I am not an idiot)

Nick stafford hutchinson, ks says:

You have to be fucking kidding, right? You think I am worried about exposing myself to a bunch of internet hacks? Maybe if I had given out my social security number I might be worried, but I challenge any of you to try and get my social? Do that and I will be impressed by the intellectual elite of mango sauce. Go for it puf :)

As far as kicking my ass, maybe you could and maybe you couldn't but if you are suggesting I would be scared to fight anybody on this site in person, you would be wrong. I'm not anything close to a tough guy but I would probably enjoy a good scrape with puf. The last time I got into a fight the guy ended up with a broken arm, take that info as you want. Being that I'm 6"2 and played small college football, I will say I'm not scared of getting my ass kicked. And I'm not talking about the kind of football where little fairy boys run around and act like they've just been shot anytime they are touched.

I am scared as hell though of being locked up in a Thai prision. I'm sure I owould cry for my mommy and daddy everynight.

Anyways, I do not consider my family or myself to be upper crust. My father was the oldest of nine children in a very poor family. He worked his ass of to be where he is at now and regularly sees patients with no insurance. He sees people that most doctors would not touch.

My point was, that while puf is obviously intelligent, there are people in this world who are smarter then him. I see him as someone who would try to get into an intellectual discussion, with, let's say, my uncle, who has degrees from both Harvard and MIT. He would look like a fucking idiot, maybe kind of how I look.

And it's no longer 101 countryside drive. It's 2517 East 45th. I should update that.

Kenn says:

I wonder if the Thais just see Americans as conflicted and likes to argue and brag about how rich they and their relatives are, if they don’t they should read this post LMFAO

Nick stafford hutchinson, ks

you do seem to have Balls, but lacking Brains http://www.search-detective.net/
There are numerous sites like this, and with the info you already gave, it would not be hard to access anything a person wanted including your SSN, how you think identity theft is done; I see you are lacking a bit of street smarts in your Ivory Tower

Wow a broken arm, I am so impressed, LOL ,
you should go see the Wizard and get a personality; because you already seem like the perfect candidate for a Pro-Abortion Poster LOL

Nick Stafford Hutchinson ks says:

Like I said if you can get my social I l will be very impressed. Go for it!


As for saying I broke a guys arm,I felt that might be important if people want to lable me as just another shit talking, internet pussy. I wonder who would be the poster child for that poster? "Please help me! My life has been taken over by World Of Warcrat and telling people how I'm going to steal their idntity." PIcture of puf hunched over a computer.

If I was in thailand the last thing on my mind would be trying to act like an assole. I would not be on the internet or in some bar chatting up some bloke about what an idiot w and his cronies are.

Nick Stafford says:

The only thing I remember about Jolly ole England is a horde of limeys begging for money and my dad laughing in their face.

Kenn says:

Nick Stafford


It is nice to see that you have to live vicariously off of others since you don’t have a life of your own,

And yes, once again you take the top spot as the poster Boy for shit talking on the Internet since I have never played one of those online type games nor do I ever care too, you see I am not presently in Thailand , I am in Iraq, and I wont be back in Thailand till the end of the month , but with all your millions you still cant seem to leave you beloved Kansas , like most people who post on this site, I have traveled a bit and lived over seas and currently I actually do have and Apartment in Merida Venezuela and also have done my Time in the Military while the whole time you just went to some junior College and dreamed that one day you could get out of your miserable existence.
When your claim to Fame is breaking one guys arm and living off of relatives who actually did make something of themselves, I myself was an amateur free style fighter but with trying to make a living I was never able to dedicate myself in the training life style of full completive fighting and my recuperation time kept getting longer and started to interfere with my life and future matches; I can say with complete ease I have broken more arms than I could remember;
And nearly killed a few ; so until you leave your mothers womb you should not say a thing as it makes you even look like more of and idiot if that even possible ,


And nobody said they would still your identity you frigging moron; just trying to warn you dumb country ass that those things happen in the real world and you should not make it easy on those who live to prey on idiots such as your self you dumb bitch; maybe one day you will get lucky like Dorothy finally did and be able to leave Kansas for a paradise

You should either neuter yourself or go out like Kurt Cobain because we do not need a chance that you will ever breed and pollute the gene pool any further

Plus it is very sad that on a vacation to England a country with so much history and culture you can only remember that your father the good Doctor laughed at the poor and less fortunate than himself , but I guess that explains a lot about you (see you at the cross burning Adolf )

Thank you for your time, I am completely done responding to you because you are a certifiable frigging moron, and please never go to Venezuela or Thailand I don’t ever want even remote possibility that I could have the misfortune of meeting you.

nick stafford says:

if you think I would trade my life for yours, you really are a delusional fuck. Kenn I would love to meet you, hopefully you can show me how tough you are some day. I plan on visiting asia and only hope you will show me what a bad ass you are.

I would be more then willing to let you try to break my arm. Given the choice to fight some 300 pound tackle or some guy who thinks he's some ultimate fighter lmao I'm going to have to choose you kenn lmao.

A lot of good people have come out of kansas and the united states, it's a shame you're not on of them. My grandfather was from kansas and served in WW 2. I'm guessing you would have shown him about the same respect you have shown me.

Hey asshole, there are a lot kids over in Iraq right now that are from kansas you stupid, moronic fuck, why don't you at least show them some respect you pitiful, wanna be ultimate fighter pussy. Quit with the hick jokes you fag and go tell them what you think about the midwest. Kill yourself now and do the world a favor.

My dad is a good man, better thenyou will ever be. Maybe he didn't give the panhandlers money because they all seemed pretty healthy and very creative. London has some of the smartest and creative pandhandlers in the world. If you asked him for money he probably wouldn't give it to you but if you were dying he would do everything he could to save your life.

Have some respect for the kids from the midwest who are serving you fucking ufc wannabe.

poster boy for all the ufc wannabes. Drum roll please. and the winner is KENN!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Just because you weren't athletic enough to be anything other then a ufc wannabe don't take it out on me little guy.

Nick Stafford says:

Free style fighters aka failed boxers. I bet you're a great jouster also kenn. Leg locks? It's not a sport kenn it's just a bunch of guys who couldnt make it in boxing. Send me a tape of you going over the middle and getting tagged by some guy who runs a 4.5 forty and benches 300 and you getting up and then i'll be impressed with your sorry ass. I'm athletic, your some clown who tries to put people in leg locks. I'd love to fight you. Put me in a leg lock and break my leg I still wouldn't respect you. Fight me like a man and kick my ass you would get my respect leg lock boy.

Prufrock says:

Nick Stafford, you are in Kansas challenging some Iraq-based American to a cage fight. . . 'cause you got yourself a big ole Buford lip-on on behalf of your grampa and some Kansas soldiers who might be in Iraq. And you're trying to frame this Iraq-based guy as being disrespectful to Kansas based soldiers in Iraq.
Whydoncha just enlist instead ;-?

They're over there getting blown to bits so you and your TWO MILLION DOLLARS can be free to drop brainfarts of YOUR caliber??
Your freedoms to shoot your fat face off and your safety are what they're getting killed for???? If I were you I'd shut the fuck up before I caused a massive "re-thinking" on the ground over there and a subsequent massive desertion.

See how shaky your ground is? See how thin your ice is??
Naw. Probably not. You still figure no one can get your SSN ;-)
You are out of your depth, Tornado Bait.

Kid. Are you fresh from the chat boards of some internet shooting or fighting game that was all the rage in your dorm?

And you STILL don't wanna start over??

nick stafford says:

So let me get this straight you have no respect for my grandfather who served in ww2, but a shit load of respect for kenn? Please explain?

I have more respect for wwf wrestlers then I do for your heroes that fight in cages you little shit.

"kansas soldiers who might be in Iraq?" And you consider yourself smart? Yes puf, there are kansas soldiers who have lost their lives over in Iraq and are currently fighting in Iraq. I thought you considered yourself smart puf? You seem like more of a shit talking internet pussy.

I've given my address, and a lot of information about myself yet still don't know much about the pussy named puf? Why don't you go over to Iraq and try to find out for yourself if there are any soldiers who have given their life or are currently fighting in iraq , you stupid fucking little shit.
Quit getting a hard on watching some guys "fight in a cage" and go visit a soldier from kansas over in iraq you complete worthless waste of a human being.
start over, come visit me at 2517 east 45th hutchinson, ks, and we can have a more indepth conversation about starting over. pussy

Nick Stafford says:

Do I want to fight some "cage fighter" leg lock, grappeling master? Not really, do I want to beat your fucking ass puf? LIke you would never believe.

nick stafford says:

What was your grandfather doing while mine was serving his country?Unfortuantely he was fucking grandma which would eventually lead us to the shit talking internet pussy known as prufrock.

If only we could invent a time machine and try to sterilize grandpa pruf from breeding. I wish he would have "started over" the first time he ever decided to stick his dick in grandma. As far as me
"starting over, I'll consider it as long as you promise me you will not have any children. If you already have children I will give you 2 million dollars to sterilize them.

Telemachus says:

I heartily agree Nick. Puffy is a Kanook fucking loser with no friends and that is difficult for me to say as I admire Canadian people.

Drivespline says:

Nick,

Do yourself a favor; forget it. In my mind I envision your antagonists as group of farquads gathered around CRT's with pocket protectors and steamed up black rimmed CLark Kent glasses...... Oh, wait these guys are in Thailand.... let me redraw....... alcoholics on barstools surrounded by hookers (it only makes sense when you're living it) who take the time out each day to annoy others on this site as a form of pennance.

Failed boxers .. I agree but pretty scrappy.

I've known some of the NY Giants from time to time. How about 4.5 40's and bench 450. These guys are fuckin animals. A leg lock or one of Pru's infamous "elbow slams" would invite certain death. It's hard to imagine how athletic and just plain fuckin HUGE these guys are. But don't blame them for not knowing, they are all from the commonwealth.

Thank your father for me for being a good man.

Don't let these losers yank your chain. Your an American. We own the world. Fuck these pale anglo weaklings.

fbuom says:

Nick,

The point is not what the fuck anyone's grandaddy was doing while your grandaddy was off fighting wwii. The point is what the fuck are you doing besides living off daddy's money? Why aren't you one of those brave Kansans off fighting in Iraq?

BTW: What was daddy doing, '67 - '72? Or did he marry your momma so he wouldn't have to go - or move to Canada?

Please tell me you're under 18, please. You really don't have a clue.

fbuoum

Prufrock says:

Nick Stafford from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the bank is too much of a coward-mommy's boy to enlist but he'll physically threaten me and anyone else on this board who'll remind him how stupid he is.
You seem to know an awful lot about naked men in confined spaces, Nick.

You're stupid, Rich Nick from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the Bank. You're just plain stupid.
An oaf. A doofus. A goof. Twat. Wanker.
12:09, 12:16 12:40 Whew. Nice temper you fat toilet trading blow monkey.

It's YOU that no one could possibly have respect for, Fats.
Nothing whatsoever to do with your family. Trying to drag them into THIS as well? Like your earlier boasting, its ALL you dummy. All you. All stupid.
Except that you've exposed your family to danger. Nice work fool. Have you at least told them? Warned them about what you've done?
I didn't think so. They'd kick you out wouldn't they?
That's be the third fuck up this year and it's only March.
But you know that you're a complete fuck up. And there's lots of time to really get into this .
But not with me.

Nobody knows you (except Dana and he's ALWAYS happy to have a moron or two in his pocket next to the stroke hole.)

BTW Telemarketus has been trying to suck Dana's dick for years but it hurts Dana's back. So he's doing it on this site.
And he's got you.
Cuddle up, you pudgy internet hard-ass

Why don't you two wieners just get a room?
Tely can get his usual short-time rate and Rich Nick from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the Bank can pay and the two of you can "heartily agree" with each other until you're both out of throat yogurt.

In ANY event, in much the same state of complete disgust as Kenn, I'm done with you both.

Dana, you pith helmet wearing, pencil mustachioed, Camel Adventure wear showroom modeling, pipsqueek, where are you?

kwai mai sabai says:

Telemachus (aka Telemarketer),
Proofers is from Quebec, a colony of France, so he's not really a Canuckian. So you can still admire Canadian people just like I admire Irish people because I are one.
Happy St. Patrick's Day, next Saturday!

Andy says:

Watching this e-pissing up the cyberwall contest is all really macho, masculine, and off-topic, but any possibility of re-directing the thread somewhere entertaining...?

Prufrock says:

Yep, Nick Stafford from Kansas
with Two Million Dollars in the Bank
and a Grandfather (Stafford? Yale, MIT?) Who'd Shit Bricks
and Spin in his Grave
if He Knew His Kid had Spawned Such
a Total IDIOT into the Gene Pool
and . . . . Trollemyguess?

You two snot goblins have found your doppelgangers. What a pair of nitwits.

Now we just HAVE to get you two kids together to discuss that time machine project.
BTW nick: Yer buddy Telefunken or John Wayne Gayce Jr. can getcher details with 50 bucks and an hour's research.
Hammerhead.

Nick Stafford says:

My father was never drafted, thank god, but if he had been I doubt he would have run off to canada. Seeing as his father wanted him to go to college and not die for a govenment that loves to fuck it's poorer citizens over I'm glad he didnt go.

Many kansans have fought and died for pieces of shit like puff who can only get off by watching men in cages fight.

Kids from kansas have died in iraq as well an many wars in the tewntieth century. Kansas was also part of the union in the civil war. Maybe you should quit jerking off to your pay per view ufc fights and learn more about the world you live in puffy?

No I'm not fighting in iraq, nor would I ever want to be. I understand though that there are a lot of brave people fighting in Iraq, and all over the world, some of them even from kansas.

Poor puf, he can only get it up for his boyfriend after he's watched 3 straight hours of ufc fights.

Get my details puff? I'd bet every homosexual, animal sex site has your credit card on file. For detials on puff just look up "world record holder for most loads of cum swallowed?" Or "sexual predators"

Telemachus says:

kwai mai sabai
Sweet I knew Canadian's were more down to earth than that lunatic. For interests sake refer to a post I made about the insane ranting Prufrock on "Nana disco walk of Shame". I like to think I offer some good insights into his condition.
Incidently the Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock a poem by T.S. Elliot where Pruffy gets his handle is about a guy who can't get laid.

Enjoy Paddy's day, a chairde.

David (another one) says:

I'm sorry Nick,I've been following most of this dialogue and you do sound like a complete idiot. The best course of action would be to stop replying to people as you are just embarrassing yourself further.

Back to the main post:
I am an english guy living in North East Thailand and many of my Thai colleagues like to say that English people are very polite and calm. I thank them for this compliment but I am always the first to point that we are not all like this. Some of the things I witness Brits doing here and back home really embarass me, I sure many other fellow brits will agree.

Common Sense says:

How can any of you morons compare boxing to mixed martial arts. Boxing is a one dimensional sport going to the wayside. Mixed martial artists have to be able to defend against attacks of any kind. Why do you think so many boxers who have entered the mixed martial arts arena have been unsuccesful or had to alter their style. As for your big bad NFL guys here's a video of Bob Sapp. He's a 355 lb former NFL lineman who fights in K-1 mixed martial arts in Japan. He's had his share of wins but also several defeats by guys half his size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aczk-cp7Lu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPrTDsBCM10

So much for your big bad NFL guys huh.

I'll be back to deal with this douchebag Nick Stafford in the morning. By the way Nick, you've officially relieved Road Natzi of the title "Most incessant cunt to have ever posted on MangoSauce".

fortunate son says:

What is going on with this.Good conversation,but where does it lead?
Internet Fighting,Rich boy ,Thai people dislike others that throw their "money" around.Try a little humility

Telemachus says:

kwai mai sabai
The main reason I admire Canadians is BSG's and Canada's Tricia Helfer, a very admirable export indeed.

fbuom says:

Kwai Mai Sabai,

Careful about what you assume about the folks from Quebec.

There is a pretty large contingent of the Irish there (among others), who have been there a looong time.

On a visit to Montreal, one resident told me that many Catholics, on immigrating to Quebec in the 19th century, were assimilated into the French-Canadian ethnicity because all the Catholic schools were run by the French. To 'survive' in school meant learning French. Of course, the same folks also didn't have much time for the Brits, so they had other things in common, too.

In other words, Prufrock could be as Irish as you or me.

fbuom.

Telemachus says:

That's an upsetting thought. I feel I should apologies to the world if that is the case. I know a lot of us, mostly fishermen, ended up settling in Newfoundland (thus the whacky accent) and throughout the territories along with the English and French but I don't think anyone can take responsibility for Prufrock except maybe the Devil.

kwai mai sabai says:

fbuom,
You're Irish too? Well, top of the morning to you lad!
Proof' could well be Irish because his English is too good to be one of them there "separatists". Probably from Montreal but I don't know him as well as you do. I get the feeling he has spent time in the States though because he knows way too much about American politics to be healthy.
He does have some unique insight into life in Thailand (particularly BKK) which is why I'm here.
While he does tend to pound out more words than the sound-byters (as he calls them) I guess life in the City of Angels has some long gaps that need filling.

kwai mai sabai says:

Telemachus,
Gotta agree with you on Tricia Helfer from Battlestar Galactica! I haven't been into science fiction since Star Trek and the American's landing on the moon but for Tricia I'll make an exception. A farm girl from Alberta. Yah! That's what I'm talking about!

Prufrock says:

CS: What puzzles me here is why anyone would actually want to challenge another person to physical combat in a chat room. (We never went there and honestly it did not EVER even occur to me.)

Maybe we should just leave the poor kid alone. Let him be who he wants to be.
He's out of gas by now don't you think?

Prufrock says:

St. Prufrock's Day :-)

Nick stafford says:

you forgot, "a rich as fuck complete idiot" david :)

Nick Stafford says:

I never challenged anyone physically? Just said I would enjoy kicking the shit out of puf. Please send me a video of one your beloved cage fighters kicking the shit out of a 300 pound nfl linemen in a street fight. Not a cage fight where puf and natzi blow each other after watching their heroes fight to the death. I think I did mention the high percentage of shit talking, intenet pussies on this site well. If that offends people like puf and natzi fag, well, I don't really give a shit.

Nick Stafford says:

Never went there puf? You need to spend more hours of your worthless life checking previous posts other then mine. I'm afraid you've developed an unhealthy obsession with me.

Nick Stafford says:

A cage fighter with no NFL experience would last exactly 1 play in the NFL. Whatever cage fighters picture you have hanging on your wall, you know the one you jerk off to everynight? He would be going home in a body bag after playing an entire game in the CFL.

Bob sapp? Yeah, he's a bad roided up mother fucker, a roided up Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis,who trained for a year to be a cage fighter would send would kick the living shit out of Sapp.

Common Sense says:

Nick Stafford,
This is Common Sense, not Road Natzi. I'm the one who posted the video's of Bobb Sapp getting his ass kicked. In case you don't know, Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) took its roots out of no holds barred cage fighting (i.e. street fighting). Even now the rules are minimal and the gloves are small, 4 oz to be exact. Cage fighting is still very much a street fight. Much more so than your beloved boxing. I can't recall ever seeing two grown men saying "put up your dukes" and going at it al a Jack Dempsey circa 1920's. You obviously lack any real knowledge of MMA, boxing, or street fighting.

In case you don't recognize my name, I am the very same Common Sense who originally got the Europeans throwing a hissy fit on this thread. I'm a 25 yo former Marine whose served 19 months in Iraq, and I still have to agree with them and take offense to what you post. You are the quintessential shit talking internet pussy.

You fail to realize this is a war of words, intellect, and wit on these threads and your boasting of physical prowess gets you nowhere. You must display intellect if you want to even be taken seriously. Do not try to build yourself up on the credentials of your family. As far as I can see you have made no contribution to this world as a whole. You are not judged in this world by what your ancestors have accomplished, but rather what you have done. Your only accomplishments to date are being a momma's boy while living off of daddy's money. You are a freeloading bum who has yet to find his place in live, or make a contribution to the world.

Stop trying to live through the accomplishments of others. Your daddy, grandpa, uncle, and my fellow comrades from Kansas who are off fighting in Iraq did not accomplish what we have so that a little momma's boy rich kid can use it to boast of himself. Do something meaningful yourself, and then come back with an opinion. Until then your lack of experience, maturity, and intellect will always cause you to look like a complete moronic ass anytime you open your mouth.

I disagree with those who think you should stay home. By all means go out and see the world, you need to be cultured. I do not recommend starting out in Thailand however; as that might be to much of a culture shock for you. Try the Philippines first. Angeles City is fairly similar to Pattaya. The people speak more English and its a nice slow transition for someone as unaware as yourself.

P.S. Before you go thinking I'm one of Prufrock's buddies, read some other threads and you'll realize I've spent more time arguing with him than any other. I just happen to agree with him this one time, you are a douche bag shit talking internet pussy.

fbuom says:

CS,

Well said.

If he can't understand your _very_ clear message, it's time for all of us to ignore him like the spoilt child that he is.

Nick's a quintessential example of how the world stereotypes Yanks. Just enough of them to give the stereotype credibility.

Unfortunately, he has been outside the US; it didn't seem to have helped. Not sure whether another trip would help or hurt. His prejudices make him slow to learn.

Siiiiiiigggghhhh.....

fbuom

Prufrock says:

Your, um, writing skills have improved immensely, asshole :-)

Drivespline says:

Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick.....

I tried to tell you how I tried to tell you.

Let's try another tack.

There is a story some darkie told me, maybe it was a Hindi, I'm not sure now..... but the crux of the bisquit was not the apostrophe, but a monkey and a tree... You see, the hindi would place inside a knothole in a tree a nice monkey treat. I don't know what monkeys like but let's say a mango ... so the monkey reaches in to grab the treat and when he gets it in his hand, he can no longer remove his hand from the hole in the tree because he is holding the mango. The monkey just won't let go. He loves his mango. He's not lettin go for nothin. At this point the monkey will just flail around with his hand (and the mango) stuck in the tree. All the monkey has to do is let go; but he won't. It's his mango. He loves his mango. Then you smash his brains in.

It's only a mango, Nick.

Nick Stafford says:

Yeah, lets see, I could make millions and millions of dollars becoming a world class boxer or make millions and millions of dollars playing in the nfl, but I'm going to become a cage fighter because I see myself as sort of modern day gladiator.

there are some tough ass mother fuckers fighting in your beloved cage matches, but Klitchsko would send everyone of them to the morgue in a boxing match.

Let me get this straight, you've never seen a street fight where guys used their fists and not gay ass leg locks and grappling moves? Look, I know you think the guys who fight in cages are erotic, but not for one second do I believe they wouldn't get their asses handed to them in the ring or on the field. Bob sapp is no longer in the nfl because he was a roid monster who couldn't cut it and no team wanted him anymore. Do you really think he would rather be fighing in cages instead of playing in the nfl?

After one play in the nfl whatever cage fighter you are in love with at this moment would be wondering how come he couldn't move his legs. As soon I see a cage fighter go from the cages to the nfl and kick some ass in a real sport I'll believe the hype until then fuck off.


Common sense huh? Forget about me for one second and accept the fact that my grandfather fought for you and everyone of your buddies in WW2. If you cant accept that then you sure as hell shouldn't go around calling yourself a marine. If someone is going to talk shit on someone that fought in ww2 why shouldn't they be called an internet pussy? Are you saying i shouldn't be proud of my grandfather who faught in ww2 marine?

My family paid you and your buddies salary while you were in the military. As brilliant as you are where do you think the money comes from so you can live in a nice house and travel all over the world. I would love to stop paying taxes so I wouldn't have to listen to some jarhead talk about what a fucking bad ass he is. Believe me common sense it gets fucking old.

Never once heard my grandfather talk about WW2, but I would bet money common sense can't go 15 fucking minutes without talking about Iraq or how brave he is, or how he would kick my ass with all the training I paid for.

The difference between the world war 2 vets and the people who served or are serving in Iraq, are that my grandfather and the men he served with never talked or bragged about what they had to do, common sense and his buddies will never let you forget what they did.

Nick Stafford says:

Only people with blood lust can appreciate ufc. I'm guessing your favortie part common is when a man is down and they go in for the kill. I can't believe kicking someone or jumping on them after they are out is considered a sport. I'm guessing marines love this shit?

Nick stafford says:

Butterbean is 8-3 in mma, lmao. I guess this sport can be entertaining. What's manute bols record? How many wins does william the refrigerator perry have? How is Danny Bonaduce doing in mma?

Nick stafford says:

Butter Bean vs Bam Bam Bigelow, who wins common?

Nick stafford says:

Does Brock Lesnar ever use a chair as a weapon in mma?

Kenn says:

Nick Stafford,
let me clarify and educate you a bit;
1: I never fought in a Cage,
2: I am not a “Grappler” as you put it, how can I be a failed Boxer if I never was Boxer, and just because a Football Player is big does not make them a fighter , even if they train for a year does not mean they will be any good and if that was the case you would see a lot more football players doing it , it has to be in a person
3: I was never under UFC rules ,
4: you need to read up about things you are talking about, because it obvious to everyone you just do not really know much
5: you have to stop talking about how great you and your family is, as I am sure it is important to you, but no one else cares
6: almost every one had a relative in a major war, but what have you done
I had family in the Vietnam War, and they weren’t drafted I had Family In Concentration Camps in Germany, my father was also a decorated Hero of the Korean war , but that is only important to me and my family , no body here cares nor should they

So when it is all said and done at the end of the day; it comes to you

What do you have to talk about or even contribute?

Why are you so angry, is it because with all your suppose Million and A successful Father , you just were never able to live up to his standards and was never able to get in a good college or even dedicate your self into improving your life ;

I am sure there is a better forum for you on this great wide world of the web
The problem is this forum isn’t for you; you need one that is set up for people who want to brag about whatever;
You need some soul searching and find something you can be proud of instead of relying on your family
You may want too attack everyone, but you wont win, the majority does not see it your way

I am done arguing with you, I hope every one else is also, their is no point, you just really don’t understand where we are coming from,
This forum is about Thailand related Subjects…. Yea it does get of track at times……., if you came to learn then you should just be an observer and ask questions
Not throw in your uneducated comments,

Take this as you will, but you need to get over yourself

Almost Every day we get mortared here, while you sit back at home , I have seen people die, I have seen what shrapnel will do to a person, and bullets and Shrapnel does not care who you are or where your from; and American are not the only ones here
I have been through Asia and currently reside in South America/ Iraq
I don’t say this to sound better than anyone; I have just got some experience,
I chose to come to Iraq, and have been here for over three years,

I don’t claim to be better than anyone, but you need to find a subject that people are willing to talk to you about, because I am done with your psychobabble and your uneducated responses, there is more to the world than your back yard and what’s on T.V


So cut the umbilical cord
But it has been my experience with people like you that you will never change, I hope you could prove me wrong but I know you won’t
It seems you are just a shit talking Internet pussy, at least that how you portray yourself

Nick stafford says:

Where in the hell do you come up with this bullshit kenn? Seeing as the nfl has better athletes, they make more money, and get more endorsements what the fuck would make a person chose to be a cage fighter over playing in the nfl. Look, I'm sure the ufc is a big deal to you and your marine buddies, but if you seriously think the majority of players in the nfl would rather be fighting brock lesnar or butter bean for 10,000 dollars then I'm not sure I'm the one you should be calling an idiot.

"It has to be in a person?" Yeah it has to be in a person to want to get the shit beat out of them every saturday or sunday as well. I know this is going to piss you off, but as the ufc becomes more and more popular you are going to see more black athletes in the "sport" you cherish so much. when this happens you will see what a true athlete can do in mma.

You and common sound like pretty tough guys, how do you think you two would fare in a Junior College football game at lets say middle linebacker? And don't say you haven't trained for it, because anybody who can break lord knows how many arms, and has almost killed several people should be able to dominate, at least at that level, right?

No one cares about your video posts of bob sapp, I want to see you two guys in action. People who talk as much shit as you two shouldn't be scared to post a video of themselves on you tube kicking some ass. I know I will never see this though. And how do I know, well, I won't say it again, but you know how I know kenn.

So I'm wating to see some videos on You Tube of you guys kicking some ass, oh wait, you guys are just, well, you know what you are.

Like I said my grandfather would never talk about WW2 but I'm petty sure you and your buddy common will never shut the fuck up about Iraq and all the horror stories you guys went through. The context is that you guys will throw it in everyones face unlike the people I have met and known who served in WW2. one of the first things you mentioned to me was how you were in the millitary. I do feel pretty proud that my grandfather served his country and never threw it in others faces. Something you and common will never do.

I would be more then happy to never have to talk to you again, but you have to admit that as tough as you and common portray yourselves to be you owe it to the people you do respect in here to show them that it's not just a bunch of hype. No more Bob Sapp Videos lets see what you and common can do?

You both will try to worm your way out of this one, but just to make it interesting and prove my point, $500 dollars to walter reed hospital for a video of you kicking some ass, and another $500 for a video of your buddy common kicking some ass.

Videos must be at least a minute long and if you have any balls at all they will be of you and not your favorite mma fighter.

Anyone want to make a wager if they will post or not? Didn't think so. Have a nice life pussies.

Prufrock says:

You're right, Drivespline. But there's obviously WAY more to this one.
You got it right, fbuom
Kenn tried (again in spite of his vow - THAT "took some")
Common tried.
Geez Louise, even MY sweet-talking didn't work. (Typical asshole Prufrock evisceration - kid didn't feel a thing 'cause he's in too much pain already.)

At the risk of sounding pompous this kid has had the benefit of commentary from quite a few men who somehow recognized his pain. Doesn't that mean anything to him?

Cut those steroids maybe? (They're NOT 'roids, kid. They're steroids and they'll kill you, as sure as anything else your into while your in this frenzied solitary wild state of mind.)
What other blue-pill wonder drugs are you into?? The anger, the flailing, the irrationality is all too painful to watch.
You need help, Nick.
Set up a new email.
Post it.
Sit down and talk to one of these guys at least.
* * *
And YOU ,TrollemallIguess/Dana, you exploitive cunt, you go fuck yourself.

Nick Stafford says:

"kenn and Commons greatest knockouts Volume 1." I'm pumped are you guys? Do you guys need a manager or an agent?

Andy says:

Just need Michael Buffer to announce this one;

"Let's get rrrready to mumble!!!"

& The first rule of internet fight club is....?

Dicer says:

"There is a story some darkie told me, maybe it was a Hindi," - Drivespline

Won't Racist Boor be a fitting name for you?

The right term is Hindu. Obviously one more of those hill billies who can't distinguish between a turban and keffiyeh. Or let me guess, you're just a notch up from using words like nigger and paki eh? Don't be shy...feel free. I'm sure there are many here who'd enjoy your company. I say, if you are going to bandy them about though at least get the accompanying terms right. And please don't tell me that you have a college degree or that you like brown girls, defence of last resort as that always is.

Reminds me after 9/11 a few nutters in Texas who found a group of Sikh kids and beat them up to pulp thinking they were Arabs... even had their Gurdwara burnt... Typical big gulp mentality eh...

Anyway glad to know that I share a forum with a racist filth. Here read and learn what is happening...

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/usahate/
usa1102-03.htm

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/
1G1-99907508.html

http://wahdah.blogspot.com/2006/10/
terroristmuslimbrownarabsikh.html

http://www.aamovement.net/hatecrime/wtc/
wtchatelist2.html

The best one is this:

On Sunday, 9/16/01, near Eugene, Ore., a 54-year old California woman was arrested for trying to pull the turban off the head of a Sikh man at a highway rest stop. (Source: Lewin & Goodstein article, NY Times, 09/18/01)

Maybe she thought there was a bomb inside?

-------

Here. Do you want to be Brian or the prisoner?


Prisoner: They must think you're lord God Almighty.
Brian: What will they do to me?
Prisoner: Oh, you'll probably get away with crucifixion.
Brian: Crucifixion?!
Prisoner: Yeah. First offense.
Brian: Get away with crucifixion?! It's...
Prisoner: Best thing the Romans ever did for us.
Brian: What?
Prisoner: Oh, yeah. If we didn't have crucifixion, this country'd be in a right bloody mess.
Brian: Guard!
Prisoner: Nail 'em up I say!
Brian: Guard!
Prisoner: Nail some sense into 'em!
Jailor I: Hahrkhm...what do you want?
Brian: I want you to move me to another cell.
Jailor I: Hah! Ptui! [Spit]
Brian: Aehw!
Prisoner: Oh! Look at that! Bloody favouritism!
Jailor I: Shut up, you!
Prisoner: Sorry!
Jailor I: Huah! Huhuhu...
Prisoner: Now take my case. They hang me up here five years ago. Every night they take me down for twenty minutes, then they hang me up again. Which I guard as very fair, in view of what I've done. And if nothing else, it has taught me to respect the Romans, and it has taught me that you'll never get anywhere in this life, unless you are prepared to do a fair day's work for a fair day's...

Common Sense says:

Nick,
Now pay attention and read this closely, you might learn something. Its doubtful, but I haven't given up hope on you yet.

First I'll answer some of your questions.

Have I never seen a street fight where no one used there fists......?
Yes I have. I've also seen them kick, elbow, knee, head butt, grapple, snap bones, and slam each other. Fists are not the only weapon, the body possesses many. MMA is about learning to use them all.

Can you not accept that my grandfather was in WWII and fought for me?
Yes I can and I have the utmost respect for your grandfather. However, his accomplishments have nothing to do with you and earn you no respect.

Do I know who paid my salary while I was in the Marines?
Ummm, I pay taxes too bitch. Pretty ironic don't you think, I was paying my own salary.

Now that some of your questions have been answered lets talk about your failings in logic. You say that I boast about being a Marine and serving in Iraq. Never happened. I threw out my past because you were trying to justify your stance on the backs of others who serve in Iraq to Prufrock. I cut your legs right out from under you.

You seem to have a penchant for basing your arguments off the accomplishments of others although you have accomplished nothing. Whether it be your family, soldiers in Iraq, NFL players, boxers, or whoever else you can dream of, you have no choice but to look for the accomplishments of others to justify your position because you, Nick Stafford, amount to nothing. You idolize those around you because you wish you could amount to what they have, from what I see here, you never will.

Your a nothing, a nobody, not even a has-been; your a never-was Nick.

I can go on and on with this but will give you a chance to digest this first. I see I have already reduced you into a neurotic obsessive-compulsive fit, which prompted you to post five times in a two-hour period on the same subject. I can see you know staring at your computer screen wondering how you can intelligently retort.

You can't Nick, you do not have the necessary qualities required.

I'll continue on toying with you,, if you so choose, until you either learn something, suck start a shotgun Kurt Cobain style, or get reduced to wearing an 'I love me jacket' while bouncing around a DuPont coated room for the loonies.

P.S. I'm sure your father really does love you Nick, regardless of your failings.

Nick Stafford says:

I've got a fever pruf, a fever for some hardcore ass kicking videos of common and kenn kicking the shit out of pussies like myself. I want to see the broken arms, men on the brink of death begging for mercy. Mercy? Ha, your buddies have no idea what that means. They are hardcore killing machines. They laugh at people like me, for only they know what it's like to have a man's life in their hands while he begs for mercy. Soldiers? Only if you want to call them that. I call them commonkenn, the greatest superhero duo ever to walk this planet. Myth? While they break every bone in your body they will have you believing in myths. Pain. You think you know pain puf?

Nick Stafford says:

You sure as hell weren't paying what I was paying. What's it like to travel the world on my bill?

Prufrock says:

Andy: The first rule on the Internet Fight Club is: Don't bite if the troll has no grit.

Dana, you self-centered, self-promoting, self-aggrandized, dick-cheese sniffing bore. "Where the fuck are you."

Oh yeah, the Lightweight sex tourist with a massive Prozac/Viagra habit is working on that WEAKLY column he writes about his crotch.

Nick Stafford says:

I'll take that as I'm not getting a video of you guys kicking the shit out of some poor, helpless loser like myself, who dared to breathe the same air as you?

How bout this. Tag team mma? You guys travel the world kicking the shit out of people, only you both take turns? I'm no rocket scientist but it sounds like a winner to me.

Seriously, tag team mma is the next step towards commonkenn becoming a household name. Don't break my heart again, I wanted to those youtube videos of some serious ass kicking, and what do you do? More insults. Can you not understand i want to see the baddest mother fuckers on this planet kicking the shit out of anyone who dares cross their path? I've only experienced commonkenn on the internet. I'm, no make that the world is ready to experience it from Hutchinson, Ks, to timbuktu.

Prufrock says:

Common: Good appraisal, but Jaisus man, don't bother. He doesn't have the cognitive skills to assimilate what we say to him, let alone post anything resembling an engaging response.
He's just tom yam khun-ing his way all over the place. . . . like a busted fembot I saw years ago on the Twilight Zone.

BTW St Prufrock's Day is almost upon us and I'll need a report of the evening's festivities in your part of the USA.
(fuck . . . this'll be good ;-)

Nick Stafford says:

I am staring at my computer, and on it is a picture Chotiror Suriyawong. But she probably only dates bad ass marines like you commoner, I mean common, simple mistake, don't get mad, just typed the wrong letters. I know, I know, shotgun to mouth like kurt cobain, I'm learning, it's just going to take time sir.

Nick Stafford says:

If that monkey masturbated a lot and threw his shit at other monkies that story would have been a lot funnier dicer.
An ancient man I once knew told me a story, a story of marines from the west who had been trained in mma. These were no ordinary marines though, their abilty to make themselves sound really cool and bad ass was unparalled. Their likes had never been seen before. Ok their likes had been seen a million times, but anyways...The man went on "the men were asked many times by my even more ancient father, what the fuck is mma?" the men replied "if you don't know then we will have to show you." "they proceded to break every bone in my fathers body" the ancient man said, not the even more ancient mans ancient father, because he couldn't speak but two words, "Bob sapp!"

Anyways that story freaked me out. does anybody know when the brock lesnar butterbean fight is? Is it before or after the bam bam bigelow fight?

nick stafford says:

Pruf, pretty much all you do on this site is suck dick? "way to go common you really showed him that time." "yeah kenn you are the man." "you showed him that time fill in the blank!" Don't your lips ever get chapped from sucking so much cock? "way to go kenn you are still the man ;)" Puf get off your knees and go rest those lips they've had enough cock for one night.

Road Natzi says:

Common,

What amazes me most, is, I have remained silent all this time, watching NICK THE DICK make a complete utter fool and FUCKWIT out of himself and somehow you drag me into it.

I actually agree with what you have said to this twit, but CS, at the ripe old age of 25, I know you think you know everything, but you don't. Don't take my word for it though, when your 30, look back on what you knew when you were 25 and you will agree, that you know so much more. Keep doing this every few years and in no time at all, you will realise that what you know now is fuck all (To your credit mate, I don't mean fuck all as an offence but merely to point out u will know so much more in another 5).

CS, let NICK THE COCKSUCKING DICK, flounder away, unlike yourself he has made no apparent valuable input into anything other than the art of self manipulation.

CS, speak with Dave or TK and ask them if you can write a blog on your experiences in Iraq and see if you can relate your tales to something about Bangkok or Thailand in General. Lets face it some of the battles fought in Iraq are no different in some respects to those of the daily lives of some FARANGS in Thailand.

CS, I thought you originally were a complete fuckwit, but I realise you are not that at all. I thought you were a FAKE, but appear genuine to me. Good on you mate for completing your tour of duty, I hope it hasn't scarred you too badly. I am sure you have some hair raising tales to tell, don't give some douchebag like NICK anytime and please stop repeating ur credentials in ur posts, as many of us already acknowledge you efforts and respect you for that. I too have some fairly hair raising experiences in my near 18 year career, I've been stabbed shot at and nearly ever second night end up toe to toe with some scumbag, but I don't constantly spew that information out to justify myself,because cock heads like nick are not worth it.

CS, I am also genuinely interested in what you intend to do with yourself now that you are free from the bans of the US Marines, when r u going to Thailand dude?

As for you Nicholas, your a nobody, get over yourself and fuck off back to your paedophile blog or whatever bizarre place you came from, there is much more perverse people than the poster's of MS and BKKGF to help you bat off your tiny slug.

Nick Stafford says:

Translating prufrock. "way to go kenn you really hit it right on the button on that one." Please fuck me in the ass kenn.

"you are so right dicer." Please fuck me in the ass dicer.

"what the fuck is this moron talking about common?" Please fuck me in the ass common.

For anymore help translating prufrock I will be able to help.

Nick Stafford says:

What's that slurping sound? Oh, it's just you pruf, carry on.

kwai mai sabai says:

I could take out any cage fighter. With my two friends Smith & Wesson. (shout-out to Dirty Harry).

Nick Stafford says:

Which one of you mother fuckers stole my credit card number and ran up a twenty thousand dollar charge to a male escort serice called "secrets?" Well, it's not a secret anymore, IS IT PRUF!!!
It will be a lot easier on you prufrock if you just admit that you did it. Look, I have no interest in knowing what a tossed salad is, but if you just take responsibility now I won't press charges.

I was warned and look at me now. Pruf is getting his salad tossed, whatever the fuck that is, at every male escort service in thailand. Damn you prufrock!!!!

Nick Stafford says:

Now I've got some russell crowe wanna be talking shit. Hey mate, I suggest you save all your tails of wounds you have suffered and fights you have been in for a movie of the week. In fact you, pruf, kenn, and whoever else wants to be included should all write a book together.

"When we weren't on the internet we were fighting for our lives, fucking beautiful women, and living a life men only dream of." You guys sound like a bunch of pirates. "Arrrrgghhh, we found our gold at the bottom of the red sea and then traveled to bangkok where we bedded the most beautiful women in the world. We buried our treasure in isle of man, and then set off for our next great adventure."
This stuff is gold, but I suggest you save it for a publishing company.

Nick Stafford says:

Did you ever get in a fight with russell crowe road natzi? If so, post pictures of his battered face after you were done with him. Also, kenn and common sense will show you no respect unless you can explain, in detail, how you would take out the entire offensive line of the chicago bears in 5 moves. I just know we are going to get to watch some of their fights on youtube, it's just they are so modest.

-------------

Gentlemen

Who slipped the ephedrine into Nick's coffee?

Regards
David

Nick Stafford says:

I went to St.Johns millitary school for a couple of years and used to get my ass kicked all the time up there. I can say for a fact I lost many more then i won. Most of the kids I went to school with either joined the millitary or are locked up in prision. I would never go on the internet and act like I'd never had my ass kicked. Yeah, 99.99999 percent of the marines would kick my ass. The thing I can't stand is this bullshit about pro boxers being pussies who couldn't hang in the mma. How long would Ben Sapp or whoever you think is a bad ass last against Klitchko in the ring?

Telemachus says:

I think ERNESTO ORTEGA and I are to blame for that one. We were talking about BOOBIES and then thought, wouldn't it be great to slip
(αR)-α-[(1S)-1-(methylamino)ethyl]benzenemethanol, α-[1-(methylamino)ethyl]benzyl alcohol, or L-erythro-2-(methylamino)-1-phenylpropan-1-ol into
Nick's daily brew, after that the conversation quickly returned to BOOBIES.

Telemachus says:

Nick you really do sound like you are fifteen.

kwai mai sabai says:

falang baa maak maa! hehehe

Kenn says:

Nick Stafford,
Bam Bam died in January, he lost his life to a fight he could never win, diabetes snuffed him out ……..
You really want to know where I come up with this…well…….it is called experience and Knowledge , something you cant understand because you don’t have any;

So you want to turn this into a Fantasy fighting League, what next you are going to start an argument over Mighty Mouse and Superman and since Superman is from Kansas he will win?
I remember doing that with my friends when I was a kid, it time to grow up a bit and put away your Action Figures
And you think it that “Dicer” story would have been funnier with masturbating shit throwing monkeys; you defiantly seem very childish (he was giving you some good advice you nitwit)

You seem to be a little touched also and are one of the special people.

Size dose not matter it is how you use it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the most important instrument any athlete has , is his ability to out think his opponent , so a guy small in stature can take down a colossal of a man , you know kinda like David and Goliath , that goes for all sports

I never played Football, I never liked the sport, I was a Soccer Player,

You see I would rather be known as a has-been than a never-was like your self; so you idolize Football Players, is that how you want to be known?

Your insults are becoming further intelligible, you seem to be going on rants that really have no substance, but instead of being smart about things ……..you keep going to show everyone either how stupid you are ……….or can be

You do not understand MMA , you don’t know why people do it , and you think every one does Brazilian ju-jitsu , do you even relies that Boxing is considered a Martial Art ,there are countless numbers of different Styles of Martial Arts, but if that not your thing then why write about it,
I don’t like Football; do you see me talking about a sport I don’t know about? ……….no you don’t

Like I been trying to tell you ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,(speaking really slow here so you can understand),you need to find a subject you know about so you can talk about it;
I am sure there is a site about masturbating shit throwing monkeys somewhere, or you may even be able to start one of your own,,,, would you like that, if you stop crying I will give you a wolly pop


Like I said earlier size does not matter nor does race, color, creed or religion , like being here , it is not your size or strength that wins battles it is how you use your brain and if you can out wit your opponent ,

You are in a battle of wits here …………and you are unarmed

No matter how many post you spit out in a row ………. By doing that it just shows that you are getting a bit flustered, so we have already beating you,

So go on with your useless banter ………….you are just proving how much smarter we have played this game than you,,,,,,,,,, how does it feel waiting for a response,,,,,,,,,,can you taste it ………..are your hands shaking …………..is the hair standing up on your neck ……………you see that is called anger…………..every Good athlete knows you go in as calm as possible . just because you claim to be athletic does not make you an athlete neither in sports or internet writing ………….but I am sure you wont understand any of this …………….

So go on with your childish comparisons and ridiculous tantrums ……………. Get of the couch ……..tell mommy you will do your own laundry for now on and that you are going to be big boy now

Since I am a has-been and you are a never-was, why should I ever respect a person who has never-been

And by the way thank you for paying my salary…… I do work Tax Free, so I get to bank not only my hard earned money but yours too, so do all the Foreigners I work with since we are contractors for the State Department and Department of Defense
See once again I was able to out think the opponent and keep as much money as I can so I can travel to world on you expense; you are just one hell of a guy…….thanks again

Lets think about it here……….if there was a league for internet Blogs, what level would you be in , I would bet pre-k , since you cant get over throwing your childish hissy fits

Drivespline says:

Well, isn't that precious! Dicer, oracle of effluence and insult, all a-twitter about the use of a particularly offensive word. I knew some hyper PC cunt (that's ok, isn't it?)would take the bait.

1) Subject: "How do the Thai's stereotype us" Hmmm.

1) darkie: art-deco stereotypical slur

Please add one and one. What'd ya come up with? Two alpha dogs?

It's pretty funny to hear you, who constantly refers to Thai's as animals, become so breathlessly outraged at an antique racial slur (or toothpaste). I guess your blatant racial predjudices are more pure at heart than mine. Maybe you rank blacks above Asians, or maybe you just see blacks as a protected class, as is the fashion. Most likely, though, you just follow the PC dictums of the day.

Glad to see your on the job in Thailand protecting blacks from prejudice. Not me, I was too busy in East Orange dropping off maternity clothes and furniture at a Baptist (tar-baby) Church for distribution to the less fortunate (negroes). You know, the Christians you hate. The Pastor (picaninny) was pretty pleased with some of the stuff. His wife (la negra), too.

Your a talentless self idolizing asshole who perpetually wears out our wheelmice as we bypass your crap; line after line after line after line after line after line of just really dreadful blather.

I don't have a pretense to talent, as you do. And I don't police other peoples casual postings for thought-crime like you do, either; but if I did, you'd be first on the list. Your endless diriding of Thai culture, flawed as that culture might be, really illustrates an ugly bigotry on your part.. Oh I know, your a scientist! My ass, your a scientist. Your a sexpat. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the sooner you drop the pretense to literary prowess, the sooner you'll be able to address the underlying problems that drive your obsesion with the "alpha dog" shit. In short, I assume your obsession with hierarchical social structures is the fact that you are on the bottom looking up. Accept it and breath free, dicer! Your a loser holding a place on a barstool until the next loser steps in.

Oh, yeah...

fuck you, cunt

Prufrock says:

Nick: My last questions for you is gonna be about your personal life. You needn't answer it, because I plan to ignore anything posted by you in the future.

What kind of Drugs might you be taking?
Any SRI's, stimulants, steroids?
What about muscle-building diets?
Do you have a regular circle of friends? Do you have brothers and sisters?
Do you have a girlfriend?
Does your Father know about this thread? Does your Mother?
What do you think your family doctor would say if he could see a print out of this thread?

And let's all TrollemallIguess/Dana "agrees with Nick heartily."

Drivespline says:

Oh, and Dicer, one other thing. About throwing 9/11 in my face. I used two work at a NVOCC on the 25th floor of the North tower. Did you know the tower had it's own Zip Code? I know people who died. My mothers' friend Susan was one of the people who carried a man down 90 stories in a wheelchair. Her brother worked in the other tower. He died. The two girls living a few doors down from me, 13 and 9 now, lost their father. So, about your lamentation of a couple of Sikhs getting a beatdown in Texas; is that the only thing you can come up with in a land of 280,000,000 people and 300,000,000 registered guns?

My Hindi friend, a real gentleman of about 60, told me a few days after 9/11 that he was so proud to be an American citizen. He was originally from Bangalore. He said was very, very, very impressed with how, as he put it, "civilized" our reactions were to such sick barberism. In India, he opined, 500,000 Muslims would have been burned alive in retibution. Now juxtapose that to what happened in the US. Some insults, some people slapped around? You know what I say? Too fuckin bad!

Oh, and hears one you might not have heard. In Paterson, NJ (terrorist central along with Jersey City, New Jersey)some nice Palistinian shopkeepers were out in the street dancing and celebrating the death of our friends. Some brothers (Yo, what up nigga') came upon this lovely scene and proceeded to relieve them of their teeth. Well, when the local police responded, the officers reminded them of the rule of law.... then they left. The nice Palistinians were then beaten and stabbed to death. Know what I say.... Excellent! What did they expect? Are they martyrs now? Or just dead?

This was on the news for about an hour as a precurser to rioting and wholesale murder of muslims, but the major news services retracted it as a rumor after about an hour. In fact, I was on my cellphone with someone who saw it as it was happening. He was happy, too.

So, if your looking to point out how violent and boorish Americans are; how oafish and racist we are, go right ahead. There is some truth to it, even in the African Americans (spear-chuckers) you feel compelled to protect. But in light of the provocation of having thousands of people murdered, I agree with my gentlmenly Indian (hindi)friend. Reaction was remarkably subdued.

Of course, since you seem to subsist on other peoples faults, any hint of rascist retribution or unfocused anger in reaction to the murder of thousands of ordinary people would be siezed upon by you (sitting in a whore house with a impoverished underage girl sucking your little pee-pee) as evidence of your (and EuroBrits (I just invented that word), in general) moral and intellectual superiority.

I find all this funny coming from a former inhabitant of the most blood soaked continent on earth and the nation that spread empire and slavery around the globe to the point where the sun never set on subjugation.

You may feel superior calling me a "rascist boor", but you, it is generally felt, are a literary bore. Really... your just another whoremonger in paradise, ticking away your wasted life boozing and fucking whores. Your drivle sucks.... it won't save you.


Fuck off

Nick Stafford says:

Pruf? Since when have you ever been on an internet blog an asked a last question? I'm not impressed road nazti finally got paroled, your mind blowing intellect does not impress me, the toughness of some marines who think they could take on a 300 pound nfl linemen does not impress me. I really don't give a shit what your last question is pruf.
On the internet it means nothing. So excuse my while I wait to hear your last question from your cock sucking lips, instead of on the internet, on a keyboard.

Nick Stafford says:

I'm going to wait for the movie pruf. I think it will rock. I heard they got David Spade to play your role of the English teacher-pedophile. Any truth to these rumors? And who else could play road natzi but mel gibson. The only thing thing they better stay true to is when kenn and common take on the entire nfl, after kicking the shit out of the klitchko brothers. If they don't stay true to that the movie will fail.

"way to go kenn!" As pruf cheers on his heroes he knows the hunger will never stop.

I heard the original script was about a bunch of shit talking, internet pussies comparing notes on who was the baddest mother fucker on the planet. Obviously they had never visited mangosauce.com!

Prufrock says:

Remember, March 17 is St. Prufrock's Day. Get out there and have a plaid beer on me ;-)

Dicer says:

Seems I've hit a nerve.

Sanctimony: "I was too busy in East Orange dropping off maternity clothes and furniture at a Baptist (tar-baby) Church for distribution to the less fortunate (negroes)..

and then

" darkie: art-deco stereotypical slur..African Americans (spear-chuckers) ..Oh, yeah... fuck you, cunt" - Drivespline

Such a zing to it eh. Did you pick up the words after you dropped off the clothes at the Baptist Church?

Since you are incapable of understanding nuance or reference I'll make it simple for you.

1. You have used words like darkie and paki. Have noticed it before.
2. Its the tone and context that usually says it if not the exact wording (in your case both)
3. And then as expected you mounted your high horse and trotted right into the sludge.

"my gentlmenly Indian (hindi)friend"

4. You cant even tell the difference between Hindi and Hindu. My point was a darkie Hindi is not only a racist term but (gramatically as well as ethnically) incorrect. Let me guess Hindi was another beauty facade on your art deco structure.

and then you say:

"I don't have a pretense to talent"

poor chap of course you don't, even if you tried you can't... the cracks already show... The more you try it widens into a neural chasm.

Here is one last one:

"My Hindi friend..opined, 500,000 Muslims would have been burned alive in retibution. Now juxtapose that to what happened in the US. Some insults, some people slapped around? You know what I say? Too fuckin bad!"

We call that non-topic substantiation. That is WAFFLING for you. But what an enlightened individual you are mate.

What you are is a garden variety uneducated racist.

Ta ta...

kwai mai sabai says:

A Scotsman buying a round! That's a first!

Gianni says:

I first wanted to tell you how much money I have in the bank, how strong I am and all the war medals I won but then I thought....

WHO GIVES A TOSS?

Nick, nobody gives a shit if you suck the entire offensive line of the chicago bears or fancy only one player. We couldn't care less...

All the others, don't even bother answering this guy.

p.s. David, this is a great site - keep up the good work.

Telemachus says:

I agreed with Nick that you are an idiot Prufrock. However, that who would win the UFC gut or NFL guy shit does sound juvenile, sorry Nick it does but take heart at least your wife didn't divorce you like Prufrock's because he said she was "trying to cheese him out".

Obviously you come here Puffy Stuff looking to be someone when everyone else in your life hates you.

Why the need to get on side with everyone even the bitter misogynists and hypocrites like Aldo:

http://www.mangosauce.com/nightlife/
keep_thai_bar_girls_happy.php

Why the desperate need to form a clique for yourself. What are you running from, what's the threat? You know the one that manifests itself as other bloggers.

I understand you need to justify yourself...

"no, no I wasn't my fault she didn't divorce me because I'm a tactless shit and continually made a nonce out of myself like in our chalet, at the raclette due, in front of her Sorority Sisters, Pruffy wit is good I'll prove it"

but geeze to make imaginary friends and enemies just to do is a bit extreme. The real threat is the mirror Pruffy and your guilty conscience.

That's why you left Canada because deep down you know you are f****** inadequate and couldn't stand to be reminded of it everyday by your peers. Run, Pruffy, Run all the way to BKK. Make imaginary friends to validate yourself and fight the "bad guy" only the "bad guy" is you!

and for the last time I have one handle onnnneeeee. I'm not Dana. I only have one “handle” Pruffy. It is from Homer’s Odyssey. I have only ever used one name and only ever will unlike you…

“My names alway stood up for themselves. “

Obviously not!

Telemachus says:

"But as I grow older these sport fucks become more and more rare. (But still, women are women and their curiosity must be satisfied."
From
Prufrock

Mangosauce March 14, 2007 5:38 AM
http://www.mangosauce.com/nightlife/
keep_thai_bar_girls_happy.php

"I grow old, I grow old, I shall wear the bottoms of my trousers rolled,
Shall I part my hair behind, do I dare to eat a peach,
I shall wear white flannel trousers an walk along the beach"
From
The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Elliot

The similarites abound but why name yourself after a guy who can't get laid?

Prufrock I must warn you that Aldo from the above post is evil. In your drive to establish yourself as a big man of the scene here you may have overlooked this. Be careful Pru not every new person is a decent guy or your friend and not every adversary is your enemy. Oh except me, I f****** hate you.

Prufrock says:

You're not Dana?
So then there are two, possibly three, including Nick, assholes of your caliber. (but then mighty Nick Stafford from Kansas with two million dollars in the Bank's an insane 15-year-old)
That leaves you and Dana.
Dana's a self-confessed (excessively so, in the sad tradition of Woody Allen) egomaniacal, Viagara/Prozac gobbling doofus with way too much time on his hands.
And you're actually not even here if we can believe anything you say. But we can believe you're not here because it's self-evident even though you're desperately doing anything you can to create the impression that you know what's going on here.
For a while you wanted us to believe you WERE here but you knew sooner or later you'd get caught so you dropped that one. Your imaginary world is much better. It suits you.
Your account of your Bkk vacation was fascinating. Didn't like Kao San .....ooooh must be "one of us" then.

You are projecting more than just a little bit I'm gleefully reporting to you. You're utterly and consistently wrong about everything you've imagined about me. And some stuff I've even told you about.
I'm actually enjoying all the effort you're putting into this fantasy world you've concocted for me. Now let's have a critique of my post to TK. There's lots there for you to play with. I figured you were, like Nick, running out of gas. So, yeah, there's a tid-bit for you.
Thanks for the Prufrock reference.
And the explication de texte. Where did you dig up the actual poem ?? it's so old. Where did you find it? And all the trouble you went to cutting and pasting.

Who says chemical engineers aren't literate? I'm sure there are loads of people who want to hear from you about your life in Europe and your imaginary holiday in Bkk and your fabulous life.
So keep typing and I'll critique your copycat drivel every month or so.
Maybe you should find yourself a girlfriend though. Somebody who can stand you for more than the four hours it takes to plow through an internet date and into one of those obligatory charity fucks you exist on.

Still think your Dana.

Telemachus says:

I give in Pruffy, you win but I'm still not Dana, believe it or not. Everything I've written about myself is true by the way. The poem, I studied it in school along with a myriad of others, Joyce, Yeats, Dante, Greek Classics. I am such an erudite chappie you wouldn't believe it. I could probably recite the whole thing off the top of my head,

"No I am not price Hamlet nor was meant to be am an attendant lord one that will do to swell a progress start a scene or two etc, etc..."

See no need for cut n' paste. Funny that you mention charity fucks isn't the problem of the Prufrock of the poem that he couldn't get one of those. Strange that you would pick that name, irony perhaps? Anyway everyone already knows...

"In the room the women come and go talking about Telemachus"

Anyhow jokes aside and no more below the belts from me, Pru. It's not my place to comment on anyone's personal life, if in fact you were serious about that.
It's impossible to win with you and as I mentioned before I find verbal bashing beyond the bounds of good taste pointless and nasty and it's f****** unbelievably impossible to win with you!!!! I did however get that scrap. So chill Pru and the Paddy will drink one on Prufrock's Day March 17th

Grunt says:

Goal: Destroy all logical or interesting discussion of Thai culture by shoveling mountains of "canned debate" pap into the comments section.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

"Zzz" - David

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[The final line was Grunt's comment, not mine - David]

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