How do the Thais stereotype us?

Kaltes says:

They must have names for Taiwan, China, and Vietnam, right? Or do they just refer to those countries by their proper names?

I would guess that the names for Taiwan and Vietnam might not be flattering.

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Hi Kaltes. Thailand's familiarity with its immediate neighbours means that they can't be characterised by a single well-known attribute or export - David

sniffer says:

Can someone ask the Thais to translate "Land of self-important short-arsed, pigeon-chested, moustachioed windbags with a chip on their collective shoulders" so they can get a handle on the Welsh? And that's just the women

bangkokram says:

Three famous Belguim's???

Jon Claud van Damm (Shit actor)

Eddy Mercxx (Best ever cyclist)

Marc Detroux (Seriously sick kiddy perv)

I tried to send a parcel to Belguim the other day, the poor assistant had never heard of it. I had to point it out on the map of the world. In the end they just put France down as the destination.

Make nice chocolates though and is the home of Stella Artois, nuff said!

drogon says:

I am belgian about to relocate to Thaïland.

Just to say that if Germany is know for its beers then it is a big mistake.
We have far more different beers than them......so we deserve the title for
"land of beer"

Also, french fries is wrong, we should say belgian fries...
Anyway, we are still known for chocolate

Dana says:

My experience is that the average or below average Thai would not know any(most) of these geographic monikers. The xenophobic insularity and geographic ignorance of the average Thai is stunning. Most(all) poorly educated Americans are also geographically ingnorant but in Thailand it is slap your palm to your forehead ignorant. I wonder if when Thai leaders are hosting leaders from other nations if there is a Thai State department official who prompts them where these high ranking important to Thailand officials are even coming from. My guess is no.

sparky says:

Belgian fries ???? i thought they were American

Carrier says:

Yeah, I can well believe that with regard to Ireland. Most conversations I've had over there start with:

"Where you from?"

"I'm from Ireland."

"Holland?"

"No, Ireland."

"Ooo eeee! I love Holland man! Holland man very handsome!"

"No, Irrreeelaaannnd."

"Ohhhh I sorry. England man handsome also!"

"Fuck off with yourself before I give ya a kick up the hole!"

There are over 70 million people plodding around this planet who claim Irish ancestry. Thousands of them pass through Thailand every year. There's Irish pubs all over Thailand and there's Irish whiskey behind every bar. Surely it's not too much to expect that maybe the odd person might have heard that there is such a place??

Pattaya Peter says:

"geographically ingnorant"

At least we can spell Dana!

Kaltes says:

I think every other country has just as many ignorant types as America, one difference is that America is so wealthy, our ignorant types can afford to travel abroad. Compound that with the fact that Europeans have a plethora of great destinations for travel without leaving Europe, whereas in America, well I cant fathom why people would waste their money coming here.

All my friends here love Thailand, even when you take the sex aspect out of it, they love the food, the beaches, etc. The only down side is the long, expensive plane flight.

Pattaya Ivan says:

Russia is no land of polar bears. It land of vodka, mafia and whores. Like thailand but no smiles and no hot weather.

tonychang says:

England-land of high class people....
thats me fucked then

SPQR says:

You know Dana is right; we Americans are just terrible at geography. For example I can never remember which is the 51st State.

Is it Canada or the UK?

Oh wait it's Canada! the UK is the 52nd State. Sort of like Hawaii with all those Islands. See we are terrible at this geography stuff.

I'm sorry Dana, I just couldn't help doing this... I'm just playing please don't kill me.

;-)

Nail says:

What do you mean “Take the sex aspect out of Thailand”… if you do that you get Ireland. And why would the Yanks drag their sorry ass half way around the globe to spend 10 minutes in a pseudo-temple and, as for beaches; gimme a break. Forty years ago I remember my dad and his buddies joking about having a new thai for Christmas. Lets face it; Thailand is Sexland; period.

philH says:

Agree with Dana, the average Thai person's geographical knowledge of Thailand is next to zero let alone the rest of the world.

One time driving up country with my TGF I got to a junction where I wasn't sure which way to go. No problemo, I had bought a road map only the day before.

"Road Map of Thailand. Scale blah blah blah" it said on the wrapping. Ripped it open......everything in Thai, not a bluddy word in English! So, being unable to read Thai at the time (not much better now), I showed it to said GF, "show me where we are. Where is that town on the signpost?" Not a bluddy clue, not a spark, lost!

When a Thai bar girls asks "Where you from?" you could answer Burkina Faso, San Salvador, Kalaallit Nunaat anywhere, it doesn't matter, they haven't a clue.

Showed some girls a couple of geosat photographs I'd got of the UK and S.E. Asia. No reaction at all. I pointed to roughly where Pattaya was and said "We are here". I could see by the reaction they were thinking "Stupid farang! No we not, we in bar".

Common Sense says:

I would have to disagree with you that every other country has as many ignorant types as America. It seems that all the other countries send their ignorant citizens to America an then proceed to talk shit about us.

On that subject I always read on here about how rude and and obnoxious Americans are. I say look in the damned mirror because Euro-trash are about the biggest bunch of dicks I have ever met. It never fails that anytime i run into them in a bar that they immediately go on a rant about Americans or our foreign policy and proceed to talk shit to me even though I had done nothing but try to have a neutral conversation with them. So all you Euro-trash out there keep your fuckin mouth's shut. When I'm in a bar staring at tits and ass I think it's pretty fuckin gay for you to start lecturing me about America's foreign policy or how much you hate American's; thinking it's a perfectly acceptable conversation. Take a lesson from the Australian's, the majority of them can at least hold a civilized conversation without acting like a dick.

Johnny says:

Reminds me of an interesting conversation I had with an apartment full of brown bunnies that were friends with my girlfriend. They were showing me their portfolios of guys that they had correspondance with and wanted me to read and sometimes translate for them. Let it be known that they were proud and respectful, for the guys involved. For these girls there was only one main guy at a time too. The correspondance was refreshingly honest too, some of the guys had found other partners too and let the girl know. They also showed me the folders from a girl that had meet someone and had moved to Hong Kong with an American man, she also let the other guys that were in correspondance know. I had a bit of a heart start when I saw my own attache too, it had all the photos and emails printed out that I had sent my honey and she had a "proud of her work but humble and slightly embarassed" expression on her face as she shifted about whilst smiling a little and looking down a touch. I didn't see any other folders in her goody bag that was stored at the apartment. Anyway, I had realised that they couldn't quite distinguish between different accents, so I started reading the emails using the accents of the guys involved, they definitely recognised that there are different accents and they laughed at each change of accent. Then they were putting in requests to say the same thing but in different accents each time. They definitely recognised the Irish accent (as they laughed loudly and quickly chatted), carrier will be pleased to know, they also recognised the varying Europeans speaking in English accents, I think I kind of lost them (and my Aussie self) when I attempted to do all the known English accents, that is hard for an Aussie that hasn't lived there before, but they couldn't tell how crap at it I was, a few of the various English accents got some big laughs as they recognised people they must know (like the husband of their boss, Lin)I got some strange looks when I attempted to explain that there are many different accents in England and a few different ones in America too.

Eniac says:

"It never fails that anytime i run into them [Europeans] in a bar that they immediately go on a rant about Americans..."

"Common Sense" - You have overstated your case to the extent that you sound like a crying girl. Go back to your trailer and take a Valium.

Your claim that "all" Europeans would forgo "staring at tits and ass" in favour of initiating a lively discussion about American foreign policy is bordering on the delusional.

Eniac says:

Here's a more constructive take on Anglo-American relations:

Beatles webcam helps foil burglary

LONDON (Reuters) - An American helped foil a burglary in northern England whilst watching a Beatles-related webcam over the Internet, police said Friday.

The man from Dallas was using a live camera link to look at Mathew Street, an area of Liverpool synonymous with the Beatles and home to the Cavern Club where the band regularly played.

He saw intruders apparently breaking into a sports store and alerted local police.

"We did get a call from someone in Dallas who was watching on a webcam that looks into the tourist areas, of which Mathew Street is one because of all the Beatles stuff," a Merseyside Police spokeswoman said.

"He called directly through to police here." Officers were sent to the scene and three suspects were arrested.

sniffer says:

I would have thought there were plenty of other sites for posters such as "Common Sense" to argue the toss over exactly how vile Americans are. That's what the internet was invented for, wasn't it? That, and photos of women having sex with farmyard animals.
Mr. Common Sense loses credibility, anyway, for his use of 'gay' as an insult and his random use of apostrophes

bangkokram says:

Common Sense (Or lack of it) Your country must be proud of your diplomacy skills!

Next time a member of the Euro Trash gives you grief, just say "I'm sorry that my country continually embarks on pre-emptive military strikes on the pretext of saving the free world. I know they only do it to safeguard their own business interests and have a total disregard for the feelings of any other country on earth except Israel. But please leave me alone i'm trying too watch the Titty Show"

That should do it.

TokyoVigilante says:

As a Romanian I had a terrible time in Thailand explaining where I was from. So I ended up saying I was Italian - Romanians' look and language are close enough to Italians'.

That, until I realized that the two elderly gentlement living next door to me were Italians - and they were bringing 3-4 different girls every night for loud nighttime action! No wonder the TG I was talking to at the time raised her eyebrows when she heard I was 'Italian'.

When I went to the Dominican Republic, most of the guys on the plane were also Italians, and all their conversations seemed to revolve around 'ragazze'.

Oh, and I am not trying to stereotype anyone here :) I just found it funny, there has to be some truth to the expression 'Italian stallion'.

Lewis says:

Yes, 'Common Sense,' many of we Europeans are proud of our incomparable ability to gradually piss off low-life, culturally-ignorant American 'patriots' like you. Your post is soaking with a very obvious, self-righteous lack of understanding of the lethal consequences of your childish government's violent foreign policies on other countries. Otherwise you would realize why so many of these Europeans that you meet are so concerned.

If the Europeans and other enlightened people want to teach one of those 'frog-in-the-well'-type Americans any lessons in realpolitik, geography or in international relations, then I say they very well should, as much as possible in fact.

Maybe nagging these guys wherever we go will gradually annoy them to the point that even their redneck, under-educated, low-IQ military folks start withdrawing troops from countries out of irritation.

Thus through the power of annoyance, we will have saved many civilian lives worldwide. No small feat there.

Most Yanks still have a "pre-21st century" mindset, not understanding that all nations are interconnected now, and not realizing that it is losing even its most competitive edges to China, India and the EU. A little internationalism in the United States might make them realize how much they are constantly endangering other countries through their childish lack of understanding of the world.

altoid says:

Q:

1)Isn't assuming that all Americans support all of the US foreign policy decisions just as ignorant?
2) Particularly the ones who choose to not live there.

In case some others need a geography lesson, the US is a big country that has a lot of people.* 3) Maybe they don't all agree with each other? 4) Maybe some of them living abroad have heard all these rants before?

A:

1. yes
2. just perhaps, yes
3. duh
4. I know I have
*3,679,192 square miles (9,529,063 square km). Population (1993 est.) 258,233,000

Derukugi says:

Lewis:
[[[very obvious, self-righteous lack of understanding of the lethal consequences of your childish government's violent foreign policies on other countries. ]]]

Oh, can you get off it, please? The waffling, wavering, defeatist, appeasing crowd that runs European countries is hardly something to be proud of, either.
Enjoy your bragging, while Europe slowly but steadily slips turns into into an islamic sub-continent wheren women are burkaed and Jews not welcome. You can visit suburbs of Paris or Amsterdam to have a glimpse of your future.
Sheesh! This is a nice, board here, the last thing I want to see is more pathetic, baseless European US-bashing.
(And yes, I am European, too.)

nekochan says:

Literally, Muang poo dee means "land of the noble people". "Poo Dee" is not actually high class, but well-mannered & educated people.

It may have started since Victoria's era.

If you can read Thai, most of these words appear in sport newspaper with sensational headlines. Just like in the west when 3 lions is England, Azzurri is Italy etc.

Sometimes Thais use different words for.

Muang Kang Han (Land of wind mill-Holland)

The Ngheun? : Vietnam (Typical Vietnam's lastname)

Muang Mank Korn: Land of the Dragon (China)

Muang Mong: Burma (Burmese lastname)

sniffer says:

altoid and derukaga: I disagree with you absolutely but I would defend to my death your right to express your views, to misquote Voltaire. Having said that, I'm not sure mangosauce is the best forum for this debate. Can't you migrate over to somewhere like The Guardian website, which is one among many sites appropriate for this kind of discussion and leave this one to posters' thoughts on why fat, whining farang munters are inferior to gorgeous but tricksy Thai babes? That is, after all, what this forum's all about. I've been as guilty as anyone else in prolonging this and the previous thread but enough is more than enough

the yank says:

"Most Yanks still have a "pre-21st century" mindset, not understanding that all nations are interconnected now, and not realizing that it is losing even its most competitive edges to China, India and the EU. A little internationalism in the United States might make them realize how much they are constantly endangering other countries through their childish lack of understanding of the world."

This is the most ridiculous thing I have read on here. If it the United States didn't work with almost every country in the world to help strengthen their economies, help defend them in times of war, or re-build after natural disasters, there would be absolutely ZERO competition for us. I love to hear the bashing on the United States, especially from people who live in countries that wouldn't exist if United States wasn't there to bail them out. (EUROPE/half of asia) And as for not understanding that all nations are interconnected, pfft come on... that is ridiculous. We have the most people from any country in ours alone. You can literallly find huge communities of every race/nationality in America. If anything we are interconnected more then anyone else. It's the liberalist nations and countries outside of ours who are trying to chop us down at the knees. The top dawg is always the BAD GUY, that's how it always is. Funny thing is, if the United States was to stop helping the WORLD we would get bashed for that. We're always expected to help and always bashed if we do by someone. Then, when there is a situation where the states needs any kind of assistance, the true colors of all the countries we have assisted come pouring out. What do we get in the end, LOUD MOUTH FOREIGNERS WHO DONT KNOW SHIT and we end up do everything ourselves with minor assistance from our "allies". Come to America and experience it for yourselves before you bash it. I don't bash anything I don't know about, I suggest you haters in this forum do the same thing.

dhiren says:

Why do u farangs make joke of other countries here...fucking shit topics...Useless discussions....your brains are all spoiled. Can't you all discuss something useful here...Why that Son of a Mega Bitch(SOMB)Bush giving cluster bombs to Israel to kill the innocent children in southern lebanon or Why that SOMB is attacking Iraq and so on....Use your time for something valuable, not by moking others or making fun of others....

David says:

Gentlemen - Please bear in mind that this forum is about Thailand and not American foreign policy - David

American says:

Funny David.

Ya, I don't usually think about the fact that I'm American. But I know I can't help it. I hate stereotypes, though.

I was a history major so I figure I have a better-than-average knowledge of world affairs, etc. I'm quite good at geography, too.

So, please don't stereotype. It's childish.

Also, I don't see how the average citizen is responsible for it's nation's foreign policy. I'm pretty sure a lot of Brits are in opposition to their government being major players in Iraq. Basically, Blair is a co-partner with Bush in this war. So I don't think any Brits can bash on America's foreign policy without taking a look at their own country.

Sorry, I know it's about Thailand. Perhaps country bashers should keep it to the bars, ha ha.

Common Sense says:

David,
I apologize for turning this forum into a discussion about U.S. foreign policy, but on that note what pushed me to post my message was the original topic about how the Thai's stereotype foreigners. Throughout the forum, I noticed several posts by smart asses who were stereotyping Americans while at the same time complaining about how the Thai's stereotype them. This reminded me of the last time I was in Thailand and had to deal with quite a few Europeans who just could not keep there damned mouths shut and enjoy their surroundings. Hell, I even ran into several people from the Middle East and not once did I get any shit from them. I would think they have more of a right to say something than Europeans do. I find the same to be true where I live in Japan. Again David I apologize.

Now for the rest of you fuck wads.

Sniffer,
For a straight man, being called gay would be an insult, and just because you only fancy the lady boys doesn’t make you and less gay. Now wonder you feel the word is not insulting. Pull the dick from your ass. Oh and trying to discredit my argument because of my use of apostrophes. Come on now. Do you know what a fallacy is? Quit trying to act educated you douche bag.

bangkokram
The next time some Euro trash gives me any grief I will do as I have always done and tell them to fuck off and continue watching the titty show. Thailand is for vacationing and wild sex. There is a time and place for everything and a titty bar in Thailand is not the place for discussions about U.S. policy as much as this is not the place. If the Europeans would learn that then I would not have a problem with them.

For those of you who do think that a titty bar in Thailand is a great place to start such a conversation at least try to do it in a respectful manner. Starting a conversation with “you ignorant fucking Americans just think you own the world don’t ya” is never going to lead to anything but some harsh words or a fight in that setting. Again, Thailand is a spot for sex and relaxation. Leave the political opinions at home gent’s and it will be a much more enjoyable time. Now let’s all go enjoy some of the nice rice paddy boxes we all love so much.

The obnoxious American asshole!!!!!

Eniac says:

Apologies for this one, David, but we can't put this topic to bed without considering the views of one former US president.

"Carter raps Blair over Bush

London: Former US president Jimmy Carter lashed out at British Prime Minister Tony Blair yesterday for being 'so compliant and so subservient' to the Bush administration in Washington. 'I have been surprised and extremely disappointed with Tony Blair's behaviour' Mr Carter told The Sunday Telegraph newspaper. 'I think that, more than any other person in the world, the prime minister could have had a moderating influence on Washington and he has not' said the 81-year old former head of state - AFP."

As regards Europeans taking American right-wing extremists to task, it would seem that you're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

sniffer says:

To "American" and other Americans. A lot of British posters to this board are all too aware that our country is a largely unpleasant place lead by a hypocritical chancer. That's one of the reasons why so many of us live in Thailand, Japan or similar, although the quantity and quality of available lasses might have rather more to do with it. David regularly posts articles or makes asides that are derogatory about British culture and I guess a lot of us laugh and nod our head in agreement. While it's nice to know that some Americans are critical of their govt.'s foreign adventures, their postings under this article only serves to reinforce the widely-held belief that you come from the land of humourless twats

sniffer says:

Common Sense writes that "For a straight man, being called gay would be an insult" Am not sure I agree. Instead, I would have thought that someone stuck in the closet and horrified by their sexuality might throw around the term "gay" as a pitiful attempt to deflect attention from their self-loathing. Nowt wrong with being gay, Common Sense, my old mate. Remember; 'be out, be loud, be proud'

the yank says:

[Common Sense, my old mate. Remember; 'be out, be loud, be proud']

hahahaha

Lewis says:

Derukugi,
The Islamic immigration of some 15 million to 18 million people is not exactly swamping Europe’s population of more than 500 million.

Common Sense,
The United States wouldn't exist if France didn't "bail it out" with military and financial backing in the late 1700s. Don't forget that your Statue of Liberty was a gift from France, either.

Make no mistake: America rose to dominance on the back of European money.

bangkokram says:

Sniffer.

I couldn't have put it better myself!

Lost in Any Land says:

Dear people,

The United States of America (USA) is the only country in the world that doesn't have a proper name. Instead, they 'stole' the name of a continent: America.

America is the name of a whole landmass that spans from the frigid Northwestern Territories of Canada to the almost equally frigid waters surrounding Puerto Williams down the Chilean Patagonia/Tierra del Fuego. No such idea of "The Americas" could be consider adequate, as the American continent was named after only one Portuguese cartographer: Americo Vespusio. The history doesn't record to be others 'Americos' to offer their names to additional continents or subcontinents.

Not even the term 'North America' is a name that could be correctly applied to the USA. The geographic extension of North America is shared by 5 countries: Canada, USA, Denmark (as the rulers of Greenland), France (St. Pierre and Miquelon Islands)and Mexico.

Talking about an "American" to reffer to an USA citizen is as vague as using "European" to name an, let say, Andorran or a Macedonian, since an 'American' could be either an Argentinean, Chilean, Brazilian, Dominican, Nicaraguan, Belizan, Cuban, Bolivian, Mexican or Canadian, to name some few nationalities that populate the referred continent.

In most, if not all, the Spanish speaking American continent (Latin-america includes Brazil, that speaks Portuguese, and technically Quebec, that speaks French, a latin language, but excludes Belize, an English speaking country; Hispanic-america also includes Spain; Ibero-america includes the European Iberic peninsula -Portugal, Andorra and Spain-) the easist way to name an USA citizen is by the nickname 'GRINGO', without any derogatory meaning (See the movie 'Gringo Viejo' with Sean Connery). Indeed, the name of "GRINGO-LAND" ('Tierra de los Gringos', in Spanish) seems to be not appropiated, neither worthy of proud by their bearers.

In any case, I think that the things should be named by its name. One of the biggest challenges that the USA has in its task of the national iconographyc and philosophical construction is to find a proper name that only reffers to the citizens of that country.

Re-wording U2... "Where the countries have No Name".

devvo says:

get yer rat out get yer rat out
sweating like a beaver

me mate lee necks e's like you won't beleez, jailbait pleez

summer is here, and its fuckin fuckin buzzin

have a can of kestrel then i kick me gf's head in

Common Sense says:

Well, even though I tried to put the nationalism to rest, the Euro-Trash in true fashion, just couldn't let it go.

Looks as if there will never be an end to their blabbering bullshit about America in or out of a bar...

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Common Sense - I've deleted the rest of your expletive-ridden posting because I'm tired of people "blabbering bullshit about America." Mango Sauce is NOT the Bangkok Post letters page - David.

Combover says:

Why would anyone be insulted over being thought to be gay? Surely all women are in agreement that gay men look better, dress better and talk better?

Andy says:

Nice of "devvo" ^^ above, to interrupt all the predictable jingoistic baiting with a lovely piece of chav poetry there! Top verse, kidda!

somchai says:

first off, this is not addressed to everyone... just a few individuals...

the amount of racism on this board is unbelievable.

This is Thailand. A poor 3rd world country.

Most of the population never had proper schooling. The education is atrocious.

The government is corrupt.

The super rich class is superficial and apathetic.

And your every day average Thai person, about 90% of the country, is just trying to do the best he or she can with his/her poor education, lack of opportunities -- trying to survive and race a family in the 3rd world.

Are the lot of us ignorant? Yes.
Are the lot of us misinformed? Yes.
Are there a million things wrong with the Thailand? Yes.

What do we need to fix the problem?

Certainly not foreigners from the affluent first world laughing at us, making fun of us, insulting us because we were borned poor in a 3rd world country where there's a lack of education, healthcare, social infrastracture, etc...

And definitely not foreigners who live in Thailand, taking advantage of whatever hospitalities we're able to give you.

We Thais are far, far, far from perfect, but please take a look at yourself in the mirror before you jump onto your high horses.

have a pint and a lady boy and make a toast to your lucky circumstance of birth to have been born and raised in affluent societies.

Us 3rd world people are just trying to do the best we can.

CCRider says:

I truly tried to resist posting anything in affirmation or condemnation of the above diatribe. But being an obstinate American, I must. What most of you twits, American, Euro, Asian, whatever, fail to recognize is that none, and I mean none of us chose where we would be born on the this god-forsaken planet and no matter what our nationality, out of a pure savage and survivalistic response, we will remain loyal to our clan. With that said, I too am loyal to the US, because I chose to be, and I am proud to an American, because I chose to be. But first and foremost, I chose to be a decent human being. A decent human being to almost everyone I encounter. Of course, there are exceptions, from every race, nationality and creed, but for the most part, I chose to find common ground on our similarities, not our differences. Again, with that said, I say let’s all choose to be decent human beings, if not to each other, at least to what brought us all here…to the beautiful Thai women, and our love of the pursuit and the thrill of avoiding being bested by them. And, lastly, in the words of one of America’s most treasured masters of prose and escape, Rodney King, “Can’t we all just smoke a bong?”

the yank says:

David,
Even though you are trying to put an end to the off topic discussion, I have to say this whole battle of the words was pretty funny. It just goes to show how diferent people think even though we all have the same thing in common, going to thailand for R&R. haha

Thai Guy says:

david
i never feel need post before but i agree with the yank. this topic was funny so i try not to pea myself. let the crazy farang keap fite. now they not say bad to the thai people just themsalves. vary vary funny i cant stop read!!!!!

ozricmann says:

“Take the sex aspect out of Thailand” if you do that, you get Ireland.

"excellent"

“Well back to the original thread”

How thais see us...... I have just asked this girl what she thinks,this is from the girl next to me in the internet shop,

who says:

1. the Africa man smell too mut and taxi dont go with them he like go boom-boom too mut wit no condom and want to no pay.

2. the italy make to loud and rude.

3. the jerman like ladyboy and like make restaurants.

4. the english soooooooo ugly, mut have have hansom man dawid becqam

5. the arobs like lady boom-booui.

6. the japanese wery generous and like take two or three lady.

7. the swiss mut be very cold, and like make resturant.

8. the american like think we like go wit them for free, we dont.

9. the canadians like think this also.....but is because its true.

10.the scandanavians like buy beer-bar and make restaurant.

11. the dutch like thai whisky and make rearry big house here.

12. ecuse wee……where at Poland?

13. the iwish left Thailand many weers ago to go nig-noi iwand

14. the austawlians like beer – bar too mut, make dirty in toilet.

15. the Indian sell many t-shirt and socks here can make for if you want so can look like hansom man.

stu_$ says:

hey common sense
i'm an australian and i want to sit with you and watch the boobies : )

Common Sense says:

Oh come on David you deleted the best part of my post. Probably for the better though although i nearly cried laughing while writing it. You gotta give me points for the creativity of my expletives though. hahaha.

stu_$
I'd gladly drink a beer and watch some boobies with you while discussing the various positions I plan on screwing whichever young lady i select for the night. Ahhh to have a truly thought worthy conversation with a foreigner in thailand.

ozricmann
I'm guessing your a Canadian since this is the only country that the young lady next to you had a favorable opinion of. The girlies always know the right thing to say to the right people when applying their stereotypes don't they. Although the bad spelling and grammar combined with the perfectly numbered comments raises a few flags as to who the true author is.

KoolKing says:

just read this yesterday:

"Thai bargirl asks customer, where you from?; Customer answers Isle of Man; Bargirl very disappointed looking and leaves him, returns shortly with Thai man in tow; smiling again she says he love man too!!!

the yank says:

Now that is hilarious. I'll be in Bangkok in early september and I would glady have this conversation with anyone here willing to do so:

"drink a beer and watch some boobies with you while discussing the various positions I plan on screwing whichever young lady I select for the night"

hahahaha

ozricmann says:

stu...

im english and not canadian but in fact not at all that ugly.

i have wrote the comment in the way many thai's speak english as it usually of the broken sort.

there was a girl there who i later went to her bar for a drink with and im guessing she was checking her bank account ie. farang guy in another country.

it does seem whenever i go onto an internet cafe, all the thai girls are on hotmail rubbing thier hands with glee or on msn messenger getting their tits out on the web-cam, belive me i have seen it and much much more!

these girls are NOT shy.!

JD says:

At the risk of getting the topic back to USA bashing, I'd like to share with you my first experiences of traveling to America. I'd like to think that I am I very objective, tolerant and reasonable person. I'm also from Europe. Perhaps my points may in some way be interesting to the American readers on this site

My first significant experience was in planning my trip to Hawaii whilst in a hostel in Auckland, New Zealand. I borrowed the Hawaii guidebook that the hostel had sitting behind the reception desk. This was from a fairly well known series of travel guides. In the preface it stated "everyone should visit Hawaii at some time in their life". As Hawaii sits in the middle of the Pacific Ocean I thought this was a fairly bold statement. I went on to read: "Hawaii is the most exotic place you can visit without a passport". I then realised, of course, by "EVERYONE" the author actually meant Americans! A pretty narrow perspective for someone writing a travel guide you would think!

When in Hawaii I played golf. All non-Americans were charged at least a third more than Americans to play on the same course. If you come to the UK, golf courses have one pricing structure for all nationalities!

I tried to book a return flight to another Hawaiian island on the Internet. I got as far as entering my payment details then was told I could not book the flight because I did not have an American credit card. I phoned the two main airlines operating inter-island flights. Both of them told me that I could not book a flight because they would not accept any of my non-American credit cards and that I should call in to my travel agent. I told them I was already on Oahu and didn't have a travel agent here. I phoned the recommended travel agent in the Lonely Planet guide. They didn't take non-American credit cards. After wasting the whole day, I finally found a friendly local travel agent who would take my internationally accepted VISA card and flew over to the Big Island. EVERY single time I took a flight in America I would get SSSS on my boarding card and have to wait in an extremely slow queue to go through the very high security check. Even if I had two short flights in one day, each time I would need a full screening for explosives. I nearly missed my flight twice due to this.

Whilst in America I tried to call home using pay phones. American pay phones don't work for calling abroad. If you don't believe me - just try it. This is meant to be the greatest nation in the world but you cannot make a call overseas using a pay phone. I have used pay phones the world over. America's are the worst in the world. If you ask an American how to phone abroad they don't have a clue. You actually have to use the international code just to call another state in America. If you tell the operator you would like to put some money in the phone and call abroad they are baffled. IF you are lucky they will put you through to another company that will connect your international call at an extortionate rate, so long as you give them a credit card number. If you are lucky they will take your non-American credit card!

I have to say that I really did like many aspects of America and I found the people to be extremely nice and friendly, but I really do think that it is a FACT that Americans live in a bubble!

Common Sense says:

JD,
Here are a few pointers. If you want to call overseas using a pay phone use a calling card. The rates are much cheaper and this can be done from any type of phone. This is how most Americans do it. Dial the 800 number, enter your pin, select 2 for international call, and dial the number. Fairly simple I think.

ALso Hawaii is an international travel destination. I've never been there so i can't refute the different pricing for foreigners but i've never heard of this practice anywhere else in the states. I do know that hawaii and las vegas have differnt pricing for tourists from anywhere outside of the local community though. Even Americans. It's crooked as shit if you ask me.

As far as airport security goes. I'm in the Marine Corps and even when i fly in uniform i sometimes get selected for the extra security screening. It's not cuz your a foreigner it's just our policy. If you want to know the way we do it. If you want to know why just google September 11 and i'm sure it will be obvious.

Now just because we have a different way of doing things don't mean we live in a bubble. You just lack the experience to figure these things out. Oh and get an American credit card.

JD says:

Common Sense,

I agree with some of your points regarding security. However, when you are of British nationality, have no criminal record, no middle eastern stamps in the passport nor any from Muslim nations other than Malaysia (no intention to stereotype here!), have never had any intention of harming anyone in your life, then it does feel frustrating to be labeled a high security risk for your entire stay in the US. If I had received this treatment once or twice then I probably wouldn't have mentioned it at all but on all seven flights, it does feel excessive. A sympathetic American in the queue behind me once suggested that I was getting selected on every flight because all my flights were one-way. If this is the case, then I think the criteria is wrong as this is singling out every person who is taking the time to visit and travel around your country as a potential terrorist threat. Also, I fully agree with carrying out a thorough screening for weapons, such as those used in the 9/11 attacks, but the thing that takes the time is the explosives screening. When you've traveled from a sleepy village on The Big Island of Hawaii to Honolulu and on to LA, and have emptied your rucksack twice and had all your possessions wiped down and analysed twice for explosives residue, it does feel excessive. I don't know what the answer is, but if anything they have to make it quicker. The security personnel act in a very casual manner and there are not enough personnel when a big queue builds up. Sprinting to departure gates with a 20-kilo rucksack on your back, waving and hollering, is not my idea of a relaxing tip!

I appreciate the gravity of the 9/11 attacks. I spent a very somber few hours at the twin-towers site when in NY. In the UK we have our own terrorist threat. Also, before the latest threat grew, we underwent a prolonged bombing campaign perpetrated by the IRA. Unfortunately, significant funding for the IRA's campaign came from sympathisers in America, who probably spared little thought for what it was like to live or work in London during this time. This is not a generalisation. I appreciate this would have been a very small minority of Americans.

Regarding the phone-cards, I tried many of those too. Some were OK but expensive. Some just didn't work at all and were expensive! The ones in Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon just didn't work at all when calling Thailand. After complaining, I did get my money back on one phone-card after it had connected me three times for about 2 seconds each time and charged me $10! One night in NY, when I wanted to make a call but didn't fancy wandering the streets trying to find a late night convenience store, I thought I'd be clever and buy some international calling time over the internet to use from the comfort of my hotel room. I hooked up on to the hotel WI-FI with my laptop, paid the minimum $10 for the connection, searched out a few hours of international talk-time at a good rate - then guess what I couldn't pay for them with my non-American credit card! Shoes and coat on, out on the streets looking for a store, thinking "aagh! I just want to make a phone call!"

The credit card situation is not easily resolved as by "American credit card", I mean a credit card with an American billing address. This basically means anyone who isn't American can't buy stuff!

SE Asia is great but, despite the problems above, I would still definitely go back to America for a holiday and have vague plans to go back to California to take advantage of your long Ski season and fantastic national parks. It aint all bad in the bubble!

Welsh man says:

Sniffer, you prick. Meet you anytime and spark you out! Just name the place and bring your army with you!

sniffer says:

Hello Welsh man! Is "spark you out" the same as "talk you to death with tedious chip-on-your-shoulder rubbish"? You'll be bringing the Sons of Owen Glendower, I presume?

Welsh man's girlfriend says:

Me no work the baaaaahh!!!

bleet bleet

Ken says:

On two seperate occasions, within a span of 30 years, Americans had to mobilize their armed forces and go overseas to bail western Europeans out of a serious messes - otherwise they'd all be flying around in blimps dressed in leiderhousen.
The U.S. has made some stupid mistakes in foreign policy lately, but on many fronts they're front and center at the vanguard of doing what's right - and the rest of the decent countries in the world are dozing at the sidelines or reluctantly toeing the line. Examples: Iran and N.Korea (nuclear build-up), Sudan/Somalia/former Yugoslavia (ethnic cleansing), Burma/Zimbabwe (oppressive juntas). How many governments came out publically to condemn Lesotho's leader for buying a fleet of Mercedes and a jumbo jet while his citizens were drowning in AIDS and poverty? Answer: One, the USA. The US is also one of the few countries which welcomes the Dalai Lama and the President of Taiwan with open arms. Very few countries in the world have the cojones to stand up to China to do that. Next time you realize you're not bowing to a photo of a descendant of Hirohito or Hitler, pat an American on the back and say, "thanks for being there when we needed you."

Jack Wow says:

Ken

the USA has, for along while, only had one agenda - that is being the world's only superpower. By bailing out Western European countries it has achieved this; not because you gave a shit about us. As for N.Korea and Iran building up nuclear stockpiles, as worrying as this may be, only one nation has ever used its nuclear capabilities in war.

Sorry, David, I know this has little to do with your original article, and I don't usually get involved in this anti-American foreign policy bashing, but it's late and I've got nothing better to do.

BTW the quality of Sexy Thai girls! Show me another! keeps getting better. Keep up the good work.

PS, should your photographer ever fall sick I'd be happy to step in.

Common Sense says:

Jack Wow,
Get an education and try to at least be knowledgeable about events of the past before posting.

khon thai says:

You Irish bloke.
if you got mad because of people here don't get that you're from Ireland not England.

We're sick too, of
"Where are you from?"
"Thailand"
"Oh! Taiwan!!"
"No, THAILAND"
"oh ok, you speak Chinese?"

fuck, we hate it too. Alright?

f in l says:

poster 1: tit

poster 2: tat

this continues ad nauseum

Telemachus Rhade says:

I visited Thailand (Bangkok) in 2003, wonderful place. Met a girl called Oom who stole my virginity in a metaphorical sense. Been dying to go back and meet some more of her pals. Anyhow I digress. Oh this is on topic by the way! I worked in Japan for a while and am from Ireland. 90% had no clue the country existed.
Normally I ended up having to tell most Asian educated and the like, Koreans, Japanese, Chinese I am English just so they got the neighbourhood I was from!
Now, while on holiday in Bangkok. I was up Koh San Road area (Horrible place, backpackers, etc) stopped to look at some of the orchids (not gay, no really...)
and this thai guy was tending to them. We struck up a conversation and he asks where I am from. I say Ireland. Next thing, to my absolute shock, starts asking me how I am in really good Irish (Old Gaelic) and telling me welcome to Thailand. I can barely speak Irish. Apparantly his friend had taught him a lot. Might not seem like much but surprised the shit out of me!

Cymro says:

Sniffer, you are a digrace and only bring shame to your fellow English people. Unfortunately, I've met dozens of idiots like you who have some kind of racist stereotype phobia about the Welsh. You're completely boring.

David, I'm surprised you allow posts like sniffer's to pollute your otherwise fine website.

With contributions like his I suppose I should look on the bright side and, like millions of others from around the world, thank God that I am not English.

slb says:

Ivan, leave Russia alone. If you as little as shagged some miserable Moldovan or Ukranian whore(s) in Moscow, do not fool yourself and others into thinking that you could generalize about the nation.

Saucy Sam says:

Of course the Thais have heard of Ireland! The thing is their acknowlegement of this country is soo ingrained in Thai society that it is completely overlooked. Maybe you think I am telling you a load of rubbish, but just ponder on this fact ...
Why do you think culivated rice is grown in .... Paddy fields?!!

jimi says:

i find it disturbing that so many people in this room are debating the rights and wrongs of US foreign policy, without seeing the wrong in going to a poor country to exploit women for sex, by throwing them a few cents.
if we spent a little more time helping and understanding and a little less time mocking and taking advantage then we may b a little better positioned to hold george bush to account.
the way some people use whatever little power they've got sickens me. working a shitty little job and saving for that trip to thailand so u can b treated like a king? is that not abuse of power?
george bush may abuse power on a bigger scale than u but that's only cos he's got more power than u.
irish guy

Pants Elk says:

"Just a few cents"?
Got her number?

Common Sense says:

"Just a few cents"?
You've over paid.

Pants Elk says:

Oh .. *you* pay *her*?

Common Sense says:

Not normally, its more sporty to not pay. Its even funner when you get them to come back for more, and still don't pay.

BioWonk says:

As a wildlife biologist that often volunteers for rehab projects in southern Thailand, I am still amazed by all these EU tourists that drone on and on about global warming and the evil americans lust for consumption. And yet, it's these holier than thou tourists that leave the trail of cigarette butts and the trash on the various beaches they deign to visit. (I won' mention that they are just as good as the americans at exploiting impoverished folks forced to prostitute themselves for food and shelter. The worst offenders are the Germans (screamers),Norwegians (pricks) and Swedes (asshats). The aussies might be vulgar, but they will always do the right thing in the end and the Canadians are bloody marvelous with their insistence on helping the staff carry their bags or apologizing when they get ripped off. But, I just wish you people would try and be more respectful of the resources and landscape when you visit. It's bad enough that I have to deal with local poachers and the like but its frustrating to see foreign tourists that should know better purchasing products made from endangered or restricted use species. HOpe a rabid dog bites them, I do. BTW, rabies is on the upswing in Thailand so do be careful.

Dicer says:

BioWonk...well it would be wonderful if cooler, calmer, thoughtful heads prevailed but unfortunately not. I recently had an old fella (of indeterminate northern European nationality) whip out his tool and unload his bladder about five yards away from us on a Koh Chang beach. Right there in broad daylight and in view of hundreds of people on the beach. He was screaming something to his tart as well. Makes you wonder eh? Even the beach dogs would tentatively look around before doing the same. So this sub-canine category needs to be leashed and sent back to dog school. There is a new growth industry. A questionnaire at the airport and the hopeless misfits would get dog coaching before entry.

"Ok boys, now when you are on the beach and you need to peepee what do you do?"

Hans: "I piss on my prostitute."
Cesar: "No Hans, we don’t do that here...maybe in a Bavarian woodland, but not here."
Luigi: "I pissa in the sea"
Cesar:"well, Luigi...how about consideration for fellow swimmers?"
Luigi: "But the whole island push shit out to sea..."
Cesar: "Luigi, you can’t justify your thoughtless actions like that..."
Hans: "I piss on you you annoying Mexican..."
Cesar tucks Hans' head up and tugs the leash...Hans becomes calm.... etc etc.

Anonymous says:

While you guys have been busy throwing around the labels (racist, ignorant, etc) here are some more for you: Sexist. Misogynist. Perverts.

Or how about Zero-to-hero?

The lovely Thai girls wouldnt piss on any of you if you were on fire if they knew what losers you all really are.

How does it feel that these girls are sleeping with your hairy old fat asses for money? How do you are not the only ones to exploit them, but that they have often been rejected by their families, beaten by their pimps or mistreated by johns not as moral as you foreign policy know-it-alls claim to be?

You guys that say Thailand is for wild sex make me sick.

Do something to make the world a better place and drown yourselves.

Pants Elk says:

Nice post, anonymous 11:07. However, I'd like to point out that all the Thai girls I've "slept" with (well, fucked, actually - why the coyness?) have been only too aware of my "loser" status. In the unlikely eventuality of my self-combustion, therefore, I'm quietly confident they'd point the urethral extinguisher in my direction. In fact ... thanks for the idea!

thebamboorat says:

"The lovely Thai girls wouldn't piss on any of you if you were on fire......"

Mr Anonymous, it's my understanding (from what I've been told) that there are establishments in Bangkok where the lovely Thai girls will however piss on you for money.

nick says:

A bunch of shit talking Limeys is how I would describe this site. I think we should let London burn to the ground in the next world war. Let them and the French see if they can actually defend themselves for once. Hell, I think thailand could overtake the smelly french and the genetically challenged Brits if it wasn't for us. Oh yeah, it's called mouthwash and it won't kill you.

Kenn says:

hey calm down nick the dick
You do know if it wasn’t for the French, America would have not won the Revolutionary War;

I am one of those very proud Americans, but I also can not tolerate stupidity; I do not have a problem with any Ethnic, Color, Creed or Race, Except for Rednecks (just kidding) (Kind of)

nick says:

Wow kenny boy, Nick the dick is really original. You must be very intelligent to have thought up that one. I'll take it as a complement though seeing as I have a huge cock. And no I won't send pictures of it to you, so don't ask.

Kenn says:

Hey there Little Nicky Dicky

Don’t flatter yourself;
It seems that your knowledge on American and World History/ Politics is as small as your Intellect,

And there was not anything original in your little rant, we are in tough times globally, this is neither the time nor the place to start spreading your word hate or prejudice against the English or the French or who ever else you just don’t seem to like,

A lot of what the Brits are posting is in a retaliation of stupid comments such as yours and are usually in a good Nature and tongue in cheek comments; I bet you are the type of guy that loves comparing everything and everyone to how great it is where your from, people like you should not travel; and you really need to get a sense of humor,
It is people like you who give America a Bad Name
As for photos, I really don’t do the guy thing , you may get a kick about talking about or dick with Guys and Lady Boys but that just isn’t my thing , you can be proud to being gay, but you will just always be a faggot

this forum is not for our stupid rants; this is suppose to be about the topic above, hopefully I didn't piss in your Cheerios Bitch

nick with the big dick says:

What the fuck is "word hate?" I have to tell you kenny boy your intellect is not nearly as impressive as you think it is. Now go sing god save the queen as your brit bf fucks you in the ass. And please no more "history lessons," I understand every country has it's faults, just like every country has it's share of gutless, shit talking, internet pussies.

Prufrock says:

Nick O'Toole: Anyone who comes on here and assumes what you assume about other posters AND posts under the name you use wishes to create a certain image.

Whether you agree or not, I think we can get consensus on that at least.

Your comment about assessing Kenn's intellect reflect a certain wish to be considered at least smart informed or maybe even witty.
Tough anyway. A bit of a hard case, tight?
You've failed.
But actually, whether true or false in real life, there Nick, you've crated the distinct impression that you're just another stupid and ignorant, no-talent astro-turfer.

You want to know how people like you are perceived, Nick? Well you remind me of Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill the Thrill O'Rieilly.
I doubt that ANYONE wishes THAT on themselves.
Well maybe they're heros to you.
But somehow I doubt it.

nick says:

Dear pufrock, what image are you trying to portray? I'm guessing intellectual snob? Was I close? People who need to create an image of themselves on the internet usually fail, I think we can all agree on that.
Do I want you to think I'm as witty or as charming as you and your pals, not really. I just came here to find out what women in Thailand are like and see if it is somewhere I might want to visit. If it's full of a bunch of smarmy brits I'm thinking no.

Nick says:

Sean Hannity, Bill O'reilly, Ann Coulter? WTF? I hate these people more then you will ever know. A retarded chimp would be a better president than bush.
I'm not sure how I got lumped in with the looney right, but I'm guessing it's because I believe America isn't the only country with a high percentage of assholes.

I would love to see Obama or Edwards become the next president, but I'm guessing no matter what they say or do the GOP will give them hell, as will the rest of the world.

Just don't compare me to christopher hitchens, and I'll develop the image of whatever the opposite of a tosser is. I don't speak britsh ebonics, sorry.

Prufrock says:

Nick, nick, and nick with whatever he's got in his hand, whined: "I just came here to find out what women in Thailand are like and see if it is somewhere I might want to visit

He opened with: "A bunch of shit talking Limeys is how I would describe this site"

And then: ". . the smelly french and the genetically challenged Brits"

And wonders: I'm not sure how I got lumped in with the looney right,

and then: . . . go sing god save the queen as your brit bf fucks you in the ass.

I'm guessing it's because I believe America isn't the only country with a high percentage of assholes

(Where he's wrong again if he's bothered to read the site's blog role.. . . which he claims to have done if his first statement is any indication, or can be taken at face..

As for my being a, what was it? an "intellectual snob"?
I suppose if having read a few books and having the capacity to think on my own and actually attempt to for original thoughts and appreciate the original thoughts of others and to also appreciate the evolving consensus of this blog role as something other than a contradiction that won't be reversed by subsequent world events and in the country I've chosen as a second home well, I guess, yeah, maybe, so what?
But I'm not British and loads of others here aren't and we're not of the same political stripe not to we all have the same amount of time to devote to answering each other's posts.
But I'll tell you this, Buckwheat: I'm delighted to see that the internet has afforded forums like this to people who want to do something other than play games and grab themselves.
So why don't you nicks identify yourselves as one or many or whatever and actually read some of this "shit".

Or is this how you normally introduce yourself to a company of strangers?

fbuom says:

Nick,

Go read my recommendation to Captain America about learning the players.

And above that, I believe you'll find some recommendations on having your posts read, to say nothing of taken seriously once they are read.

You got lumped in with the 'looney right' by using the language of the 'looney right', aka here as Captain America.

fbuom

Nick says:

Hi David,

Having read your site for around a year before posting, I am a little dismayed to see every odd ball on line adopt my name for every comment under the sun.

Gentlemen, please have the balls to post under your own name. They say 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery', but I dont wish to be hog tied and tar brushed when I next get down to BK.

In saying that tho' it sounds sorta fun..

nick stafford says:

Is that better? I'm sorry I didn't take hours of my time reading the blog role, responding to every post I liked or disliked, going back and looking at previous posts so I might be able to catch someone in a lie, responding to stupid rednecks who should bow down to my superior intellect, wondering where the hours went while I tried to come up with some witty retort, trying to, well I'm sure you get the point.

I am glad though that puff went back and showed the atrocities I had commited when I called the french "smelly."

not suprised at the fact that he left out my original post which showed me entering mango sauce with no malice at all.

Identify myself puff? My name is Nick Stafford, I currently have over 2 million dollars in the First National Bank of Hutchinson, KS. More money than you will ever see in your miserable shitty life. My great uncle was William stafford, I'm sure you would know that name being as literate as you are. My father went to Dartmouth and graduated from Tulane medical school. He is now a very rich and a very successful physician. My mother is a college pysch teacher. I could keep going, but why don't you identify yourself puff?

Put down your Harlequen Romance novels puff and respond like a man instead of your usual "shit."

Kenn says:

Once again another post became a culture bashing, I will admit I don’t like the being bashed by American Politics when sitting in a bar, but usually it is not intended to be a direct attack but it is hard to always turn the other cheek per say, I can sympathies with Americans thinking they are on the receiving end of anti-American Views, but you can not always take it personally

These post generally have a sarcastic type of humor which I enjoy and is the reason why I been a fan for few years now , and the one who was posting as “nick” on the original post seems to have quit the problem , and just does not understand why he looks like such a fool and why nobody seems to like his Antics , and for him to use the term ” gutless, shit talking, internet pussies” is quit hilarious since he seems to be just describing himself ,I can say for sure he much rather argue with me on the internet because I know for a fact I would lay his sorry ass out , as I am against friggin idiots, And he sure takes the cake on that ; I do not claim to be a intellect at all , I am just the general working class who happens to do Expat work , and now I am currently in the Middle East , to be precise I am currently in Iraq , and have been through Europe ,Asia and South America, and the biggest asses are generally any one who tries to think his opinion counts more than the Locals and in this case this blog

I am just an ol’ skool oi Punk, and I will be in Bangkok on the 28th, I look forward of a having a few with any one, as Varity is the spice of life, and looking forward to getting My Exploited Tattoo Redone (does any one know a good Shop for touch up and cover ups ?)

And lastly to you “nick” (from the original post) Dude you should see someone about your anger problem before it gets you in Trouble Bitch;

I am sorry David for my involvement in all of this; it just I do not like arrogant post from idiots hiding behind a keyboard

But it is nice to see every one be in agreement that “nick” (from the original post) is an ass with serious penis envy

It is all just in good fun; first round is on me;LOL

Prufrock says:

nick: Thanks for identifying yourself.
I understand your motives for exposing yourself and your family to those on this site you perceive as ... (well, just scroll up and review your own words)

You have more seriously exposed yourself and your family to hoards of felons and potential felons as well as maniacs who are certifiable but who've just not been caught yet.

You're not very smart, "nick"

In fact, the risk of imaging myself as some kind of intellectual snob, I'll just say that what you've done is quite stupid.
Either that or you are not "nick" and you wish to see this guy "nick" harassed and victimized.

If you ARE "nick" you've demonstrated nicely that money isn't everything. You've also demonstrated that you feel your life will improve little by little as your relatives die off.
You sound like an only child.
You sound pathetic.
You sound terribly damaged.

Maybe you should start over.

Kenn says:

Prufrock;
you are so right with you Evaluation, you seem like a man that I would be happy to sit in a bar with and discuss (not argue) the world with

Nick Stafford (xxx) xxx-5115 000Countryxxxx Dr, Hutchinson, KS xxxxx
If This is truly you; since you claim to be from the so called White Collar upper crust of society, then you should relies you don’t give out this kind of personal information, unless you are one of those Stupid Americans you see people post about, there is such a thing called identity theft, and someone with your millions should understand that

The next time I am sitting in a Bar and People start saying how stupid and arrogant American are , I will think back to you Nick Stafford and I will have to agree with them
You are a joke; I pity you

And to get back to the original post (or less conflicted side topic post)
As an American (I do understand that is kind of a narrow minded way of introducing ourselves)
I just tell people the State, New Jersey or I tell them the Nearest City; as everyone one knows New York City

Kenn (last name withheld because I am not an idiot)

Nick stafford hutchinson, ks says:

You have to be fucking kidding, right? You think I am worried about exposing myself to a bunch of internet hacks? Maybe if I had given out my social security number I might be worried, but I challenge any of you to try and get my social? Do that and I will be impressed by the intellectual elite of mango sauce. Go for it puf :)

As far as kicking my ass, maybe you could and maybe you couldn't but if you are suggesting I would be scared to fight anybody on this site in person, you would be wrong. I'm not anything close to a tough guy but I would probably enjoy a good scrape with puf. The last time I got into a fight the guy ended up with a broken arm, take that info as you want. Being that I'm 6"2 and played small college football, I will say I'm not scared of getting my ass kicked. And I'm not talking about the kind of football where little fairy boys run around and act like they've just been shot anytime they are touched.

I am scared as hell though of being locked up in a Thai prision. I'm sure I owould cry for my mommy and daddy everynight.

Anyways, I do not consider my family or myself to be upper crust. My father was the oldest of nine children in a very poor family. He worked his ass of to be where he is at now and regularly sees patients with no insurance. He sees people that most doctors would not touch.

My point was, that while puf is obviously intelligent, there are people in this world who are smarter then him. I see him as someone who would try to get into an intellectual discussion, with, let's say, my uncle, who has degrees from both Harvard and MIT. He would look like a fucking idiot, maybe kind of how I look.

And it's no longer 101 countryside drive. It's 2517 East 45th. I should update that.

Kenn says:

I wonder if the Thais just see Americans as conflicted and likes to argue and brag about how rich they and their relatives are, if they don’t they should read this post LMFAO

Nick stafford hutchinson, ks

you do seem to have Balls, but lacking Brains http://www.search-detective.net/
There are numerous sites like this, and with the info you already gave, it would not be hard to access anything a person wanted including your SSN, how you think identity theft is done; I see you are lacking a bit of street smarts in your Ivory Tower

Wow a broken arm, I am so impressed, LOL ,
you should go see the Wizard and get a personality; because you already seem like the perfect candidate for a Pro-Abortion Poster LOL

Nick Stafford Hutchinson ks says:

Like I said if you can get my social I l will be very impressed. Go for it!

As for saying I broke a guys arm,I felt that might be important if people want to lable me as just another shit talking, internet pussy. I wonder who would be the poster child for that poster? "Please help me! My life has been taken over by World Of Warcrat and telling people how I'm going to steal their idntity." PIcture of puf hunched over a computer.

If I was in thailand the last thing on my mind would be trying to act like an assole. I would not be on the internet or in some bar chatting up some bloke about what an idiot w and his cronies are.

Nick Stafford says:

The only thing I remember about Jolly ole England is a horde of limeys begging for money and my dad laughing in their face.

Kenn says:

Nick Stafford

It is nice to see that you have to live vicariously off of others since you don’t have a life of your own,

And yes, once again you take the top spot as the poster Boy for shit talking on the Internet since I have never played one of those online type games nor do I ever care too, you see I am not presently in Thailand , I am in Iraq, and I wont be back in Thailand till the end of the month , but with all your millions you still cant seem to leave you beloved Kansas , like most people who post on this site, I have traveled a bit and lived over seas and currently I actually do have and Apartment in Merida Venezuela and also have done my Time in the Military while the whole time you just went to some junior College and dreamed that one day you could get out of your miserable existence.
When your claim to Fame is breaking one guys arm and living off of relatives who actually did make something of themselves, I myself was an amateur free style fighter but with trying to make a living I was never able to dedicate myself in the training life style of full completive fighting and my recuperation time kept getting longer and started to interfere with my life and future matches; I can say with complete ease I have broken more arms than I could remember;
And nearly killed a few ; so until you leave your mothers womb you should not say a thing as it makes you even look like more of and idiot if that even possible ,

And nobody said they would still your identity you frigging moron; just trying to warn you dumb country ass that those things happen in the real world and you should not make it easy on those who live to prey on idiots such as your self you dumb bitch; maybe one day you will get lucky like Dorothy finally did and be able to leave Kansas for a paradise

You should either neuter yourself or go out like Kurt Cobain because we do not need a chance that you will ever breed and pollute the gene pool any further

Plus it is very sad that on a vacation to England a country with so much history and culture you can only remember that your father the good Doctor laughed at the poor and less fortunate than himself , but I guess that explains a lot about you (see you at the cross burning Adolf )

Thank you for your time, I am completely done responding to you because you are a certifiable frigging moron, and please never go to Venezuela or Thailand I don’t ever want even remote possibility that I could have the misfortune of meeting you.

nick stafford says:

if you think I would trade my life for yours, you really are a delusional fuck. Kenn I would love to meet you, hopefully you can show me how tough you are some day. I plan on visiting asia and only hope you will show me what a bad ass you are.

I would be more then willing to let you try to break my arm. Given the choice to fight some 300 pound tackle or some guy who thinks he's some ultimate fighter lmao I'm going to have to choose you kenn lmao.

A lot of good people have come out of kansas and the united states, it's a shame you're not on of them. My grandfather was from kansas and served in WW 2. I'm guessing you would have shown him about the same respect you have shown me.

Hey asshole, there are a lot kids over in Iraq right now that are from kansas you stupid, moronic fuck, why don't you at least show them some respect you pitiful, wanna be ultimate fighter pussy. Quit with the hick jokes you fag and go tell them what you think about the midwest. Kill yourself now and do the world a favor.

My dad is a good man, better thenyou will ever be. Maybe he didn't give the panhandlers money because they all seemed pretty healthy and very creative. London has some of the smartest and creative pandhandlers in the world. If you asked him for money he probably wouldn't give it to you but if you were dying he would do everything he could to save your life.

Have some respect for the kids from the midwest who are serving you fucking ufc wannabe.

poster boy for all the ufc wannabes. Drum roll please. and the winner is KENN!!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Just because you weren't athletic enough to be anything other then a ufc wannabe don't take it out on me little guy.

Nick Stafford says:

Free style fighters aka failed boxers. I bet you're a great jouster also kenn. Leg locks? It's not a sport kenn it's just a bunch of guys who couldnt make it in boxing. Send me a tape of you going over the middle and getting tagged by some guy who runs a 4.5 forty and benches 300 and you getting up and then i'll be impressed with your sorry ass. I'm athletic, your some clown who tries to put people in leg locks. I'd love to fight you. Put me in a leg lock and break my leg I still wouldn't respect you. Fight me like a man and kick my ass you would get my respect leg lock boy.

Prufrock says:

Nick Stafford, you are in Kansas challenging some Iraq-based American to a cage fight. . . 'cause you got yourself a big ole Buford lip-on on behalf of your grampa and some Kansas soldiers who might be in Iraq. And you're trying to frame this Iraq-based guy as being disrespectful to Kansas based soldiers in Iraq.
Whydoncha just enlist instead ;-?

They're over there getting blown to bits so you and your TWO MILLION DOLLARS can be free to drop brainfarts of YOUR caliber??
Your freedoms to shoot your fat face off and your safety are what they're getting killed for???? If I were you I'd shut the fuck up before I caused a massive "re-thinking" on the ground over there and a subsequent massive desertion.

See how shaky your ground is? See how thin your ice is??
Naw. Probably not. You still figure no one can get your SSN ;-)
You are out of your depth, Tornado Bait.

Kid. Are you fresh from the chat boards of some internet shooting or fighting game that was all the rage in your dorm?

And you STILL don't wanna start over??

nick stafford says:

So let me get this straight you have no respect for my grandfather who served in ww2, but a shit load of respect for kenn? Please explain?

I have more respect for wwf wrestlers then I do for your heroes that fight in cages you little shit.

"kansas soldiers who might be in Iraq?" And you consider yourself smart? Yes puf, there are kansas soldiers who have lost their lives over in Iraq and are currently fighting in Iraq. I thought you considered yourself smart puf? You seem like more of a shit talking internet pussy.

I've given my address, and a lot of information about myself yet still don't know much about the pussy named puf? Why don't you go over to Iraq and try to find out for yourself if there are any soldiers who have given their life or are currently fighting in iraq , you stupid fucking little shit.
Quit getting a hard on watching some guys "fight in a cage" and go visit a soldier from kansas over in iraq you complete worthless waste of a human being.
start over, come visit me at 2517 east 45th hutchinson, ks, and we can have a more indepth conversation about starting over. pussy

Nick Stafford says:

Do I want to fight some "cage fighter" leg lock, grappeling master? Not really, do I want to beat your fucking ass puf? LIke you would never believe.

nick stafford says:

What was your grandfather doing while mine was serving his country?Unfortuantely he was fucking grandma which would eventually lead us to the shit talking internet pussy known as prufrock.

If only we could invent a time machine and try to sterilize grandpa pruf from breeding. I wish he would have "started over" the first time he ever decided to stick his dick in grandma. As far as me
"starting over, I'll consider it as long as you promise me you will not have any children. If you already have children I will give you 2 million dollars to sterilize them.

Telemachus says:

I heartily agree Nick. Puffy is a Kanook fucking loser with no friends and that is difficult for me to say as I admire Canadian people.

Drivespline says:

Nick,

Do yourself a favor; forget it. In my mind I envision your antagonists as group of farquads gathered around CRT's with pocket protectors and steamed up black rimmed CLark Kent glasses...... Oh, wait these guys are in Thailand.... let me redraw....... alcoholics on barstools surrounded by hookers (it only makes sense when you're living it) who take the time out each day to annoy others on this site as a form of pennance.

Failed boxers .. I agree but pretty scrappy.

I've known some of the NY Giants from time to time. How about 4.5 40's and bench 450. These guys are fuckin animals. A leg lock or one of Pru's infamous "elbow slams" would invite certain death. It's hard to imagine how athletic and just plain fuckin HUGE these guys are. But don't blame them for not knowing, they are all from the commonwealth.

Thank your father for me for being a good man.

Don't let these losers yank your chain. Your an American. We own the world. Fuck these pale anglo weaklings.

fbuom says:

Nick,

The point is not what the fuck anyone's grandaddy was doing while your grandaddy was off fighting wwii. The point is what the fuck are you doing besides living off daddy's money? Why aren't you one of those brave Kansans off fighting in Iraq?

BTW: What was daddy doing, '67 - '72? Or did he marry your momma so he wouldn't have to go - or move to Canada?

Please tell me you're under 18, please. You really don't have a clue.

fbuoum

Prufrock says:

Nick Stafford from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the bank is too much of a coward-mommy's boy to enlist but he'll physically threaten me and anyone else on this board who'll remind him how stupid he is.
You seem to know an awful lot about naked men in confined spaces, Nick.

You're stupid, Rich Nick from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the Bank. You're just plain stupid.
An oaf. A doofus. A goof. Twat. Wanker.
12:09, 12:16 12:40 Whew. Nice temper you fat toilet trading blow monkey.

It's YOU that no one could possibly have respect for, Fats.
Nothing whatsoever to do with your family. Trying to drag them into THIS as well? Like your earlier boasting, its ALL you dummy. All you. All stupid.
Except that you've exposed your family to danger. Nice work fool. Have you at least told them? Warned them about what you've done?
I didn't think so. They'd kick you out wouldn't they?
That's be the third fuck up this year and it's only March.
But you know that you're a complete fuck up. And there's lots of time to really get into this .
But not with me.

Nobody knows you (except Dana and he's ALWAYS happy to have a moron or two in his pocket next to the stroke hole.)

BTW Telemarketus has been trying to suck Dana's dick for years but it hurts Dana's back. So he's doing it on this site.
And he's got you.
Cuddle up, you pudgy internet hard-ass

Why don't you two wieners just get a room?
Tely can get his usual short-time rate and Rich Nick from Kansas with Two Million Dollars in the Bank can pay and the two of you can "heartily agree" with each other until you're both out of throat yogurt.

In ANY event, in much the same state of complete disgust as Kenn, I'm done with you both.

Dana, you pith helmet wearing, pencil mustachioed, Camel Adventure wear showroom modeling, pipsqueek, where are you?

kwai mai sabai says:

Telemachus (aka Telemarketer),
Proofers is from Quebec, a colony of France, so he's not really a Canuckian. So you can still admire Canadian people just like I admire Irish people because I are one.
Happy St. Patrick's Day, next Saturday!

Andy says:

Watching this e-pissing up the cyberwall contest is all really macho, masculine, and off-topic, but any possibility of re-directing the thread somewhere entertaining...?

Prufrock says:

Yep, Nick Stafford from Kansas
with Two Million Dollars in the Bank
and a Grandfather (Stafford? Yale, MIT?) Who'd Shit Bricks
and Spin in his Grave
if He Knew His Kid had Spawned Such
a Total IDIOT into the Gene Pool
and . . . . Trollemyguess?

You two snot goblins have found your doppelgangers. What a pair of nitwits.

Now we just HAVE to get you two kids together to discuss that time machine project.
BTW nick: Yer buddy Telefunken or John Wayne Gayce Jr. can getcher details with 50 bucks and an hour's research.
Hammerhead.

Nick Stafford says:

My father was never drafted, thank god, but if he had been I doubt he would have run off to canada. Seeing as his father wanted him to go to college and not die for a govenment that loves to fuck it's poorer citizens over I'm glad he didnt go.

Many kansans have fought and died for pieces of shit like puff who can only get off by watching men in cages fight.

Kids from kansas have died in iraq as well an many wars in the tewntieth century. Kansas was also part of the union in the civil war. Maybe you should quit jerking off to your pay per view ufc fights and learn more about the world you live in puffy?

No I'm not fighting in iraq, nor would I ever want to be. I understand though that there are a lot of brave people fighting in Iraq, and all over the world, some of them even from kansas.

Poor puf, he can only get it up for his boyfriend after he's watched 3 straight hours of ufc fights.

Get my details puff? I'd bet every homosexual, animal sex site has your credit card on file. For detials on puff just look up "world record holder for most loads of cum swallowed?" Or "sexual predators"

Telemachus says:

kwai mai sabai
Sweet I knew Canadian's were more down to earth than that lunatic. For interests sake refer to a post I made about the insane ranting Prufrock on "Nana disco walk of Shame". I like to think I offer some good insights into his condition.
Incidently the Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock a poem by T.S. Elliot where Pruffy gets his handle is about a guy who can't get laid.

Enjoy Paddy's day, a chairde.

David (another one) says:

I'm sorry Nick,I've been following most of this dialogue and you do sound like a complete idiot. The best course of action would be to stop replying to people as you are just embarrassing yourself further.

Back to the main post:
I am an english guy living in North East Thailand and many of my Thai colleagues like to say that English people are very polite and calm. I thank them for this compliment but I am always the first to point that we are not all like this. Some of the things I witness Brits doing here and back home really embarass me, I sure many other fellow brits will agree.

Common Sense says:

How can any of you morons compare boxing to mixed martial arts. Boxing is a one dimensional sport going to the wayside. Mixed martial artists have to be able to defend against attacks of any kind. Why do you think so many boxers who have entered the mixed martial arts arena have been unsuccesful or had to alter their style. As for your big bad NFL guys here's a video of Bob Sapp. He's a 355 lb former NFL lineman who fights in K-1 mixed martial arts in Japan. He's had his share of wins but also several defeats by guys half his size.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aczk-cp7Lu4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPrTDsBCM10

So much for your big bad NFL guys huh.

I'll be back to deal with this douchebag Nick Stafford in the morning. By the way Nick, you've officially relieved Road Natzi of the title "Most incessant cunt to have ever posted on MangoSauce".

fortunate son says:

What is going on with this.Good conversation,but where does it lead?
Internet Fighting,Rich boy ,Thai people dislike others that throw their "money" around.Try a little humility

Telemachus says:

kwai mai sabai
The main reason I admire Canadians is BSG's and Canada's Tricia Helfer, a very admirable export indeed.

fbuom says:

Kwai Mai Sabai,

Careful about what you assume about the folks from Quebec.

There is a pretty large contingent of the Irish there (among others), who have been there a looong time.

On a visit to Montreal, one resident told me that many Catholics, on immigrating to Quebec in the 19th century, were assimilated into the French-Canadian ethnicity because all the Catholic schools were run by the French. To 'survive' in school meant learning French. Of course, the same folks also didn't have much time for the Brits, so they had other things in common, too.

In other words, Prufrock could be as Irish as you or me.

fbuom.

Telemachus says:

That's an upsetting thought. I feel I should apologies to the world if that is the case. I know a lot of us, mostly fishermen, ended up settling in Newfoundland (thus the whacky accent) and throughout the territories along with the English and French but I don't think anyone can take responsibility for Prufrock except maybe the Devil.

kwai mai sabai says:

fbuom,
You're Irish too? Well, top of the morning to you lad!
Proof' could well be Irish because his English is too good to be one of them there "separatists". Probably from Montreal but I don't know him as well as you do. I get the feeling he has spent time in the States though because he knows way too much about American politics to be healthy.
He does have some unique insight into life in Thailand (particularly BKK) which is why I'm here.
While he does tend to pound out more words than the sound-byters (as he calls them) I guess life in the City of Angels has some long gaps that need filling.

kwai mai sabai says:

Telemachus,
Gotta agree with you on Tricia Helfer from Battlestar Galactica! I haven't been into science fiction since Star Trek and the American's landing on the moon but for Tricia I'll make an exception. A farm girl from Alberta. Yah! That's what I'm talking about!

Prufrock says:

CS: What puzzles me here is why anyone would actually want to challenge another person to physical combat in a chat room. (We never went there and honestly it did not EVER even occur to me.)

Maybe we should just leave the poor kid alone. Let him be who he wants to be.
He's out of gas by now don't you think?

Prufrock says:

St. Prufrock's Day :-)

Nick stafford says:

you forgot, "a rich as fuck complete idiot" david :)

Nick Stafford says:

I never challenged anyone physically? Just said I would enjoy kicking the shit out of puf. Please send me a video of one your beloved cage fighters kicking the shit out of a 300 pound nfl linemen in a street fight. Not a cage fight where puf and natzi blow each other after watching their heroes fight to the death. I think I did mention the high percentage of shit talking, intenet pussies on this site well. If that offends people like puf and natzi fag, well, I don't really give a shit.

Nick Stafford says:

Never went there puf? You need to spend more hours of your worthless life checking previous posts other then mine. I'm afraid you've developed an unhealthy obsession with me.

Nick Stafford says:

A cage fighter with no NFL experience would last exactly 1 play in the NFL. Whatever cage fighters picture you have hanging on your wall, you know the one you jerk off to everynight? He would be going home in a body bag after playing an entire game in the CFL.

Bob sapp? Yeah, he's a bad roided up mother fucker, a roided up Brian Urlacher or Ray Lewis,who trained for a year to be a cage fighter would send would kick the living shit out of Sapp.

Common Sense says:

Nick Stafford,
This is Common Sense, not Road Natzi. I'm the one who posted the video's of Bobb Sapp getting his ass kicked. In case you don't know, Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) took its roots out of no holds barred cage fighting (i.e. street fighting). Even now the rules are minimal and the gloves are small, 4 oz to be exact. Cage fighting is still very much a street fight. Much more so than your beloved boxing. I can't recall ever seeing two grown men saying "put up your dukes" and going at it al a Jack Dempsey circa 1920's. You obviously lack any real knowledge of MMA, boxing, or street fighting.

In case you don't recognize my name, I am the very same Common Sense who originally got the Europeans throwing a hissy fit on this thread. I'm a 25 yo former Marine whose served 19 months in Iraq, and I still have to agree with them and take offense to what you post. You are the quintessential shit talking internet pussy.

You fail to realize this is a war of words, intellect, and wit on these threads and your boasting of physical prowess gets you nowhere. You must display intellect if you want to even be taken seriously. Do not try to build yourself up on the credentials of your family. As far as I can see you have made no contribution to this world as a whole. You are not judged in this world by what your ancestors have accomplished, but rather what you have done. Your only accomplishments to date are being a momma's boy while living off of daddy's money. You are a freeloading bum who has yet to find his place in live, or make a contribution to the world.

Stop trying to live through the accomplishments of others. Your daddy, grandpa, uncle, and my fellow comrades from Kansas who are off fighting in Iraq did not accomplish what we have so that a little momma's boy rich kid can use it to boast of himself. Do something meaningful yourself, and then come back with an opinion. Until then your lack of experience, maturity, and intellect will always cause you to look like a complete moronic ass anytime you open your mouth.

I disagree with those who think you should stay home. By all means go out and see the world, you need to be cultured. I do not recommend starting out in Thailand however; as that might be to much of a culture shock for you. Try the Philippines first. Angeles City is fairly similar to Pattaya. The people speak more English and its a nice slow transition for someone as unaware as yourself.

P.S. Before you go thinking I'm one of Prufrock's buddies, read some other threads and you'll realize I've spent more time arguing with him than any other. I just happen to agree with him this one time, you are a douche bag shit talking internet pussy.

fbuom says:

CS,

Well said.

If he can't understand your _very_ clear message, it's time for all of us to ignore him like the spoilt child that he is.

Nick's a quintessential example of how the world stereotypes Yanks. Just enough of them to give the stereotype credibility.

Unfortunately, he has been outside the US; it didn't seem to have helped. Not sure whether another trip would help or hurt. His prejudices make him slow to learn.

Siiiiiiigggghhhh.....

fbuom

Prufrock says:

Your, um, writing skills have improved immensely, asshole :-)

Drivespline says:

Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick.....

I tried to tell you how I tried to tell you.

Let's try another tack.

There is a story some darkie told me, maybe it was a Hindi, I'm not sure now..... but the crux of the bisquit was not the apostrophe, but a monkey and a tree... You see, the hindi would place inside a knothole in a tree a nice monkey treat. I don't know what monkeys like but let's say a mango ... so the monkey reaches in to grab the treat and when he gets it in his hand, he can no longer remove his hand from the hole in the tree because he is holding the mango. The monkey just won't let go. He loves his mango. He's not lettin go for nothin. At this point the monkey will just flail around with his hand (and the mango) stuck in the tree. All the monkey has to do is let go; but he won't. It's his mango. He loves his mango. Then you smash his brains in.

It's only a mango, Nick.