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November 20 2006

Tragic Ray needs a loving home

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As Keith Summers declares "year zero" from the granite plinth that once supported Stickman's imposing statue, thousands of bewildered readers find themselves swept up in the cruel tide of war.

Ray is one of them.

Frightened, confused and clutching a small suitcase containing a week's supply of Viagra, two boxes of Durex Extra Safe and a tube of KY Jelly, Ray stumbled through the demilitarised zone into the secure Mango Sauce enclave where representatives of the International Community provided him with humanitarian assistance.

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Hmmmm, i'm new to this scene, but its certainly got a grip on me. I travelled to India to practice Yoga and after the shala closed i decide to go to Thailand for some more Yoga. Unfortunately i was utterly distracted by the stunning Thai girls. Having indulged in Bang Cock (for the first time in my life) i was kind of hooked. I felt like an alcoholic let loose in a liquor store. But i thought, fuck it (no pun intended) i'll indulge.

I gave my thai girl in Bang Cock 1000 Euros to spend the month in Samui with me. The following day she then asked for more money, at which point the financial shutters came down and i thought 'no this is not what i want (of course it was exactly what i wanted!!) After arriving alone in Samui i thought' i'm going to get my monies worth and texted her asking when she would be down, to which she replied in a few days. She said she needed money for the boat/plane/bus, whatever, because she had given the money to her Mother. Then i thought to myself, ' Ahhh here, fuck that for a story! I havent contacted her since. But there was a very attractive ladyboy serving behind the bar last night! Hmm, i might dip in there!!

Since the site's inception in 2003, thousands of Mango Sauce contributors have assiduously avoided cracking the cringe-making "Bang Cock" joke and observers fear that this might be the flashpoint that ignites simmering tensions between the local townsfolk and a "tent city" of Stickman refugees.

Attracted by modern conveniences such as running water, electricity and a comment forum, some of the displaced readers may choose to resettle here but those who can't adapt to life on a new website might end up feeling disenfranchised and bitter.

Marching under slogans like "How much for a gobble?" "Does she take it up the wrong'un?" and "Hmm, I might dip in there!!" disaffected Stick fans may soon be fighting running battles with established Mango Sauce regulars all over the comment threads.

Some analysts believe that stability can be restored only if Stickman returns from self-imposed exile and resurrects his popular Readers' Submissions section.

Though Keith Summers' military victory was swift and decisive, winning the hearts and minds of Stickman's readers has proved tougher than he anticipated. Instead of being greeted as a saviour, Keith's pre-emptive war - which was started under false pretences - has landed him in a quagmire where he's taking incoming fire from all sides.

It can only end badly.

Stickman will ultimately reclaim his birthright but, in the meantime, thousands of displaced readers like Ray are huddled together in the Mango Sauce Superdome at the mercy of roving gangs of Burmese flower girls with just a few out-of-date tins of powdered egg to go around.

We need to bus them to safety before Ray takes umbrage at the inadequate toilet facilities and sets up a rival website to bring me down.

But where should they go?

Thailand's most popular forum is ThaiVisa.com but open-ended discussions about the price of a cubic metre of topsoil in Sisaket moderated by Mary Poppins aren't exactly going to set Ray's world on fire.

The news stories stolen from the Bangkok Post are sometimes quite interesting but the forum itself can become quite dull when it follows the predictable pattern of one contributor lambasting the stupidity and xenophobia of Thai officials before another reminds him that we are all guests in Thailand and must live by their rules.

For those interested in what Keith Summers refers to as "naught nightlife" I'm led to believe that BarLadies.com is the place where ThaiVisa hangs out its dirty washing. However, when viewed from Thailand, the site is up and down like a tart's knickers as various local Internet watchdogs compete with each other to protect impressionable middle-aged Lotharios from its tawdry content.

Perhaps the most obvious successor to Stickman's Readers' Submissions section is ThailandStories.com - a well-run site that has yet to achieve it's full potential. A recent submission by Thaiexpert entitled "The Man About Town" is certainly worth a read.

Returning to the problem in hand, I'm certainly not going to wipe Ray's arse so, if any reader can suggest a loving online home for him, please leave the details below - before anyone else charges the daft twat 1,000 Euros for a handjob.

[Posted to Internet by David]

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Readers' comments

Chuck says:

Ray obviously read the guide books in the wrong order. You're supposed to get the sex out of your system BEFORE you start on the yoga.

Kasman says:

Sure readers are having withdrawals from nothing to read on Stickman and the readers submissions were the best part for sure.

Stories about the bar reports every week get old, but reading about PERSONAL experiences is something very interesting.

I do not think there is any expat in Thailand that does not have at least one experience where they learned something and it is these types of experiences that intrigue the reader to want more.

Stickman site had a major problem in only being able to post a couple stories a day because of the manual format he used.

The other thing I found lacking is not having the ability to comment on the individual stories.

Some people on Stickman are just totally spreading fictitious stories and they need to get challenged before some unsuspecting newbie uses the information and gets burned.

All in all with what has happened, I cannot see why in the world anyone would sign up to do a site after all that happened here?

The other issue with stickman was poor web design and overuse of ads which detracted from the story.

A website where readers can post stories and comment on them, void of all the advertising, would be the way to go. Plus have the ability to post as many per day as the writers wanted.

We all want stories and useful information to make our way in Thailand, not all the other bullshit people are doing to make a few extra bahts.

mike says:

i agree with Kasman....the one thing i like best about this site is the shorter format. it's easy to read and a quick stop while surfing. on the other hand, stick's reader's submission are long and tedious to read...and the black background makes my head hurt.

bob says:

somebody is about to open up a 3rd front in the name of STICKBOY !
who is behind this new site? another Galt disturbed personality or Sticks new personna to shake off summers?
www.stickboy.com

Half Man Half Goat says:

I am a stickamn refugee. I wander cyberspace in limbo. i get by on handouts from aid agencies such as MS, Thaivisa and papayabollockyoghurt.com. I invite the UN, IMF, MFI, CIA and Tesco to intervene and restore normaility. I miss seeing Dana's posts so that I can completely ignore them. I miss seeing Stick add the ''no comments' remark to the reader's submissions which are shite. Classic.

Hurrricane Keith came full force but, as with all weather, it will dissipate into a tepid fart.

Keith Summers: I wipe my arse in your general direction.

Please send donations via MS. I accept smut, hearsay, gossip, rumour, titbits, libel, slander and shiny beads. If truly desperate, I will sometimes assept the truth.

sick of stick says:

ok, I have been amused so far with all the rant going on about stick, but this new article only fuels the hatred, so I'm not so amused anymore. I dont know if anyone has there eyes open, but from what I have seen, everyone has put death threats on galt, then he completely outs stick. It seems to me that your death threats dont mean s**t. You are some sick puppies out there.

SlowJoeNY says:

For those of us that appointed Stickman a Minor God, the loss of Readers Submissions and Stickman Weekly has been disastrous. The pathetic ravings of Keith Summers come nowhere close to the enlightenment that was bestowed upon us by Stickman. We are truly fucked, and not in the way we wanted to be.

Jack Wow says:

Here ye here ye
Announcement to all Stickman fans - The great man has been posting on PATTAYA SECRETS forum.
You will find your fellow worshippers flocking there in their droves already. Please exit MS in an orderly fashion and make your way over to PS in single file.
We respectively ask that you remain there until it is time to return to your rightful home.

philH says:

"open-ended discussions about the price of a cubic metre of topsoil in Sisaket moderated by Mary Poppins aren't exactly going to set Ray's world on fire."

Pure fucking genius! I pissed myself laughing over that one.

Ballerazzi says:

Maybe Tragic Ray can apply for a job with Galt. I see that Summers' (claimed) ultimate goal is to find investors and look for engineers overseas. If Ray is an engineer, maybe he ought to contact Galt for a job.

Andy says:

The remarks about ThaiVisa.com made me titter somewhat. Any forum that has a dedicated thread solely about the new airport needs to spice up its content a tad, maybe?
Must be a lot of expat anoraks out there....?

Derukugi says:

David:
Brilliant analogy. All the more fitting because now Summers is trying to withdraw from the battlefield with egg on face, while still claiming victory, LOL

Keith Summers Sex Tours says:

Funny how things work out.
Last month, if you had Googled "Keith Summers", you would be directed to his turn signal business.
Now, Google his name and the first hits are:
KEITH SUMMERS SEX TOURS BANGKOK THAILAND.
That's nice.

sniffer says:

What is in fact the difference between Schtickman's readership and that of Mangosauce? As far as I can see from the Galt posts the former are a bunch of self-important, sleazy whoremongers with a less than firm grip on the rules of spelling and punctuation. Mangosauce, on the other hand, is essential part of the daily lives of sleazy whoremongers who actually have a sense of humour

UN High Commissioner for Refugees says:

Another interesting reference to Mr. Summers from the World Wide Web:

http://www.finishing.com/319/66.shtml

Andy says:

Before this topic dissolves into its inevitable stick vs nonstick bore-fest, let me just congratulate David on a truly remarkable Photoshop effort as the lead photo for this piece.
Tremendous work, m8;-)

Pants Elk says:

I, for one, am prepared to pay David cash money to refrain from posting anything else Stick/Summers related.
I say: let's see Stick and Summers bury the hatchet and embrace each other publicly, possibly indulging in a little tongue action and groin-bumping. Then we can all put the whole sorry mess behind us, while they get a short-time room for a little more hatchet-burying.
(David: you seem to be something of a khazi connoisseur, could you not help out on the "Thaitanium's bathroom secrets exposed" thread? Thnx.)

Doc says:

Has anyone noticed that Keith Summers looks a bit like John Mark Karr???

Common Sense says:

Alright you sniveling bunch of bitches; get a grip on yourselves and accept that Stick is gone. I now realize why I could never bear to read his site. It was populated by a bunch of emotionally broken cunts latching onto some sense or normalcy and decency in a land of sin. You think yourselves better than Galt because you prefer the go-it-alone method in the P4P scene rather than having a guide. This makes you of no higher social class than Galt your still a whoremonger. Now lets get back to the talk of shagging LBFM's up the poop shooter, toilet humor, and grudge matches between the proud whoremongers of Mango Sauce.

A few of you refugees actually posses a sense of humor and are welcome to stay. The vast majority of you are cunts crying as if The Galt just stuck it to your wife and mailed you the video. Face reality and move on since none of you can muster the intestinal fortitude to carry out anything more than wishful thinking that your worthless threats towards Galt will come true.

Pants Elk says:

Isn't a whoremonger someone who sells whores (ie a pimp?).
Fishmonger - someone who sells fish.
Ironmonger - someone who sells, er, iron.
I don't think many mango-saucers would readily 'fess up to the charge of pimphood. Unless I've wildly misread the demographic here, I think we're just honest consumers of the product in question.
But "Common Sense's" agenda of getting "back to the talk of shagging LBFM's up the poop shooter, toilet humor, and grudge matches ..." seems cogent and timely.

Wombat says:

Hello Common Sense

I have been called a lot of things over the years but never an emotionally broken cunt. Not sure if its a new high or new low. Still every day you experience something new is a good day.

Perhaps Summers did stick it to my ex. That would explain a lot about his actions. I was in Thailand just before Summers embarked on his vendetta. He may have met up with her while she was stalking me again. They possibly compared notes. She may have even convinced him that she was a virgin. After all, she could teach a bar girl a thing or two about telling porky pies.

I better go & draw the curtains & turn all the lights off. Looks like its back to pretending I'm not home again. Still, the next electricity bill will be cheap.

Derukugi says:

[[I say: let's see Stick and Summers bury the hatchet and embrace each other publicly, ]]

This is getting so boring. For the umpteenth time: There is no "Stick an Summers".
Keith Summers is obsessed with attacking Stick. That is all there is to it. Stick never attacked, or even defended himself.

Anonymous says:

Keith Summers
Motorcycle Turn Signal Factory / Direct Sales - Nakhon Phanom, Thailand .
Does anybody have the exact address.
I have somthing for Mr. Keith.

Pants Elk says:

Whatever.

Bruce Kramer says:

For an alternative take on relationships between Farang men and Thai women I still think thaifarang.co.uk is worth a visit.

In these Stickman deprived times maybe some guys would like to read some articles that deal with the same subject matter but offers a different take on it?

Derukugi says:

Bruce Kramer:
I thought David mentioned your "alternative site" already:

"discussions about the price of a cubic metre of topsoil in Sisaket moderated by Mary Poppins aren't exactly going to set Ray's world on fire."

Indeed not. But say hello to Mary Poppins :-)

Concerned For All... says:

Anonymous -

Sure. We've had it for a long time. Here goes and be sure to use two stamps..:)

Keith Summers
Summers Soft Company Ltd.
Soi Poksawat Feangrat Road
A Muang Nakhon Phanom
Thailand, 48000
PH: 09 541 8274 (more current available on request)

Can you believe the Dickhead posts all this stuff on the internet? Some people are fucking stupid enough to post their entire CV along with the name/address/poc of their prior places of employment...and more. They jusy usually posts all this stuff and then go on a "fuck me" spree of revenge..

Mac says:

Yeah, nice Photoshop job, but Superman was a hero to so many of us -- truth, justice and all that -- while Galt/Summers has come across as a nefarious scoundrel, a reprobate, a bounder ... I'd have liked to see him depicted as the classic cartoon villain, with black top hat, black suit (black cape optional), and long, droopy moustache, waxed into curls at the ends. You know, like this ...

http://pegpundit.wordpress.com/files/
2006/08/villain.jpg

bob says:

Mary Poppins at Thaivisa has banned me 15 times already but i always sneak back via the backdoor. 99% of their subscribers have been banned zillions of times for exceedingly minor infractions.
But dirty washing can always be hung at barladies.com

Kasman says:

Concerned for all, you are fucking retarded and don't be concerned for me because I could care less where either one of these guys live and I think the same for 99% of the readers here unless you are gay?

Over an internet story? Why don't you go hump the neighbors dog?

Maybe this is a secret attempt so you can sneak up to Nakon Phanom, bend Keith over and do a little Pulp Fiction action on him?

This story is like so yesterdays news and you need to get over it and get on with your own life.

Do you really think anyone would bother to visit either one of these idiots?

If you do, you need to get a fucking life because that behavior spells LOSER in big letters.

Now slowly back away from your keyboard before you hurt yourself.

This is Thailand and if you cannot find something better to do that bang away on your PC, you are really fucked in the head.

I don't know where in the hell you all live in Thailand but I sure as fuck am glad it is a long, long way from me.

What a fucking embarassment to the caucasion race you are.

No wonder Thai's HATE YOU!

Pants Elk says:

Group hug, everyone!

Concerned For All... says:

"Concerned for all, you are fucking retarded and don't be concerned for me because I could care less where either one of these guys live and I think the same for 99% of the readers here unless you are gay?"

Where did this come from, was someone talking to you? Are you HOMOphobic?

"Over an internet story? Why don't you go hump the neighbors dog?
Maybe this is a secret attempt so you can sneak up to Nakon Phanom, bend Keith over and do a little Pulp Fiction action on him?"

What a sick homo fuck you are! Sounds like "gaydreams" to me..

"This story is like so yesterdays news and you need to get over it and get on with your own life."

Like you are doing?

"Do you really think anyone would bother to visit either one of these idiots?"

Ah, a real question. Yes I do.

"Now slowly back away from your keyboard before you hurt yourself."

Now that was funny...;o)

"This is Thailand and if you cannot find something better to do that bang away on your PC, you are really fucked in the head."

You live in Thailand? You fuck guys in the head and bang your PC? Damn homo's..

"I don't know where in the hell you all live in Thailand but I sure as fuck am glad it is a long, long way from me."

The logic in this paragraph is fucking brilliant!

"What a fucking embarassment to the caucasion race you are."

Yes Keith "the cunt" Summers appears "Caucasian", but since you can't spell it I doubt you are, though since you can't spell "embarrassment" either I suspect you are probably Keith Summers using yet another fake name.

"No wonder Thai's HATE YOU!"

"Thais" love me! But since you can't punctuate worth a damn (or spell) I again suspect you are probably Keith Summers using yet another fake name.

Am I the only one who has noticed all the cunts supporters can't spell, punctuate, or structure a sentence? Either they're just all fucking uneducated sods or.. they're all Keith Summers.. Eh?

And you say no one needs to be concerned for you...

BoatGoner says:

I for one welcome stick's demise, not that I find Galt particularly appealing. That dullard sheep fucker with a tenuous grasp on the English language whose target audience seems to be the greyest of the grey and recently released inmates has been claiming the mantle of the new Trink for way too long. His weekly postings ranged from shite to utter dross and the only reason he lasted so long with his I've-got-the-webdesign-skills-of-a-retarded-
five-year-old site is that most blokes coming to LOS have the social skills to match.

Keith Summers Sex Tours says:

Keith Summers
Summers Soft Company Ltd.
Soi Poksawat Feangrat Road
A Muang Nakhon Phanom
Thailand, 48000
PH: 09 541 8274

Does he run his Keith Summers Sex Tours from there too?

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

dear David,

As l'm sure your aware Noel Thomas died just recently.
A great Guy who could write the socks off almost anybody on the subject matter of LOS.
Will always remember his early bits in Pattaya Mail when that paper just kicked off.
Perhaps a posting on his life would be very fitting here.
I'm sure you'll come up with something as opposed to the cretin subject matter of Sticky and Summers.

Thaxo RIP Noel

Keith Summers Sex Tours says:

Keith Summers Sex Tours Bangkok Thailand.
Where can I sign up?
I want to stalk some Virgins with Keith Summers, Sex Tour Guide Bangkok Thailand.

Derukugi says:

Keith Summers Sex Tours:
[[[Does he run his Keith Summers Sex Tours from there too?]]]

No, the sex tour company is here:
The Man Tour
c/o Aerostar Travel
4521 PGA Blvd #388
Palm Beach, FL 33418
Telephone: (800)568-7566

And we don`t know if it his outfit. Probably not. All we know is that he was a happy participant with them and that the touts it on his website (of course, without any profit motive, LOL).

Kasman says:

Concerned for all. Sorry to break up your wet dream, but this is not Summers.

If you want to be the MAN, why not make a little field trip to Summers house since you seem to have a bone for him, write up a nice story and post it here with lots of photos?

Of course if you want to post the address and you don't have the balls to go visit and do a real story, then as mentioned before, back away from your keyboard before you hurt yourself.

Some how I think once you get away from all your farang buddies, you would not dare venture out of the safe area into the unknown.

Summers might have a bunch of Thai Hillbilly's up there waiting for you!

As far as grammar and punctuation on this post? WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK!!!!!!

How is that for grammar and punctuation? What are you another one of those half-wit retarded wannabe school teachers that migrated over here?

What a dink!

Be concerned for yourself and find something better to do, either that or get your ass up to Summers house and write a report or YOUR FIRED!

Whoops! Improper use of capital letters. D- of this report.

What a goat roper.

SaveOurChildren says:

Once again American wit and can-do attitude sinks another less than colorful Bangkok cyber warrior.

This poor Stick was no match for an American with superior investigative skills and brass balls.

Looks like all of the Bangkok sexual predators masquerading as English Teachers should pack up their meager belongings and proceed to the nearest que for a well deserved thrashing.

With Americans like Summers patroling the Internet you have no where to hide. You and your droll English accents are so pathetic you are not worthy of being his pet on leash.

May god show mercy on your wretched perverted souls because one Keith Summers will not.

Dizz says:

"SaveOur children"
Dude- save yourself!!!

Anonymous says:

Sorry SveOurChildren. I should have
said: Save us from YOU!

Concerned For All... says:

"Concerned for all. Sorry to break up your wet dream, but this is not Summers."

Hey, it's not like Keith Summers is a trustworthy individual and would tell us if caught using 53 aliases.. The guy is a pathological liar and this has been proved time and again. But why all the sexual references? Sounds like Summers to me.

"If you want to be the MAN, why not make a little field trip to Summers house since you seem to have a bone for him, write up a nice story and post it here with lots of photos?"

Not a bad idea.. And you know such "field trips" haven't already been done because?

"Of course if you want to post the address and you don't have the balls to go visit and do a real story, then as mentioned before, back away from your keyboard before you hurt yourself."

You seem to be extremely interested in homo activities and my balls.. Telling.. But, it was only funny once, twice shows a lack of creativity in the joke department on your part.

"Some how I think once you get away from all your farang buddies, you would not dare venture out of the safe area into the unknown."

Very insightful, sooo smooth. Is that all you've got?

"Summers might have a bunch of Thai Hillbilly's up there waiting for you!"

And you'd know this because? Or just another lack of creativity on your part?

"As far as grammar and punctuation on this post? WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK!!!!!!"

So rich! You attack someone who hasn't provoked you, call them an idiot, etc.. and then when you're shown to be the idiot, poorly educated, crappy writer, illogical, and so on.. what do ya do? You attack and act like you're in the right.. Classic narcistic (look it up)tendencies to be sure, just like the real Keith Summers, or one of his many pen names.

By the way, being a poor speller and writer isn't "ok", it makes you look fucking stupid. Add on illogical and you approach the moronic.

"How is that for grammar and punctuation? What are you another one of those half-wit retarded wannabe school teachers that migrated over here?"

No, just someone who made it past the 6th grade and who owns a dictionary. Like I said, IT IS NOT ok to be a poor speller and writer, it only makes you look more stupid.. assuming "more stupid" in your case is possible which I doubt.

"What a dink!"

WOW! Impressive comeback. Someone (me) just made you out to be a stupid idiot who can't spell or punctuate to save their life and you come back with "what a dink!" ??? Smooth.. I can tell you do this often.

"Be concerned for yourself and find something better to do, either that or get your ass up to Summers house and write a report or YOUR FIRED!
Whoops! Improper use of capital letters. D- of this report."

No, you can use caps to emphasize a point. What you can't do is use "your" in place of "you are" or "you're", it makes you look fucking stupid all over again (like that's gonna matter in your case)..

"What a goat roper."

Yes indeed. If Keith Summers has you befriending him then he certainly doesn't need enemies. The absolute scary part about this is that you make him look intelligent, and we all know what a moron he is.

Have a good day sir. Consider some night classes or at least a dictionary. In the spirit of friendship I offer you this help: http://www.dictionary.com USE IT...

waerth says:

Sigh ........

ShaveYourChildren says:

Once again, American twit and canned doo-doo attitude stinks. Another less-than-credible Bangkok cyber wanker.

This poor American schmuck with supine inveighing skills and brash balls is no match for for a dyslexic 12-year-old schoolgirl with a speech impediment.

Such soporific prattlers mass parading as message t-shirts should pack their measly blatherings and proceed to the nearest dump for a well deserved trashing.

With American poltroons like Summers trolling the internet we have Jekyll and Hyde. You and your drawled American assent are so bathetic you are worthy of being his doggy-style partner.

May god shower mercury on your syphilitic holes, because one Keith Summers will rot.

Derukugi says:

SaveOurChildren:
[[May god show mercy on your wretched perverted souls because one Keith Summers will not.]]

But luckily, there is an alternative for the perverted souls: They can book a sex tour with the "TheManTour", and enjoy Keith`s expert American guidance through the Pattaya flesh scene.
So, not all is lost!

Not Anyone Associated With Thailand Websites says:

Here's a thought no-one else seems to have picked up on: I remember hearing, quite recently, that some US-based tour operator was sentenced to some form of punishment (imprisonment) for providing "sex tours" to Thailand. Something to do with promoting prostitution, which I hear is not all that legal in the "Land of the Free". Unfortunately I can't find any online reference right now, but maybe Mr. Summers would like to think about it in any future columns philosophising about illegal businesses.

Anonymous says:

Fuck off summers you fucking little lump of pig shit vomit.

Mike says:

What is JG/Keith Summers going to write about now that Stickman is down for a couple of months? Is he going to bash the other sites such as AsiaBugle, MangoSauce etc?

MJ

faatm says:

Has anyone seen the Stickboy site ? too weird for words.
I would say it has to be Summers , otherwise there are 2 freaks running loose out there somewhere.

Johnny says:

I just worked out a way to get mobbed at a bar in Bangkok, buy and wear some Yoga attire and accutriments. They will rush you thinking that you'll be paying for a month UPFRONT and we all know that Tele-woman is still the fastest form of communication over the television and the telephone. The Yoga is obviously working, he said 'fuck that' and didn't contact her since. I would love to know what her thought processes were when she asked for more money the next day.

The other mistake I've made is to ask for something before asking for the price, this is guaranteed to make it 5-10 times the usual price, no matter how innocent they look, from the old lady selling corn cobs to the baht bus driver that asks for 1000 baht. You live and learn, otherwise "you're screwed... you're screwed"

Johnny says:

I'm still confused what did Stick verbatum actually say or repeat from a submitters article that pissed Keif off ? I remember reading a hilarious report about a strange guy getting jiggy in an S&M club, or was that somewhere else.

Jack Wow says:

David,
I, like most, just come here for a good laugh and a bit of banter, but this is just getting ugly. Printing Summers address - if it is actually his - is a bit out of order. Although I'm sure it can be easily found elsewhere on the net, there's no need to encourage this witch-hunt. Like you said, making a tit of himself in front of thousands should be enough humiliation. If anything nasty should happen to Summers it's not very good publicity for any farang website.

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Hi Jack

I take your point and I normally wouldn't allow this but I think Keith waived his right to privacy when he published Stickman's mugshot and his work address out of sheer malice.

Some might regard the outcome as poetic justice.

Incidentally, I know for sure that Stickman would never encourage anyone to harm Keith.

Regards
David

Ruddiger says:

I suggest David from this site, or another popular Bangkok/Thailand blogger, arrange a meeting with Summers, and see what he has to say. OK, he waged an unfair war against Stickman, but we have heard Stick's side of the story, the least we could do is get a proper response (emotion-free as can be) from Summers.

Hands up who agrees!

my2cents says:

Amazingly, Stickman and cohorts are actually feeling self-righteous as if it is Stickman's right to run an illegal PI business and website in Thailand while the rest of us suckers pay taxes and get silly things like work permits and taxpayer ID's.

Stick, you have only been humuliated on the net and lost some income. The worst has not even happened to you. Not even close. Jail and deportation are much more serious threats and you are doing nothing to protect yourself. Instead you are engaging in a silly web based battle of the egos based on your and other imagined importance.

You have been, and still are, commtting serious crimes in Thailand dude. Wake up. Yoru priority now should be to make yourself 100% legal and lay low.

faatm says:

Who gives a shit if Stick paid any taxes ? and so what if the guy was making some cash on the side ? good on him if he was.
Those that mention this bullshit are only trying to justify the diatribe of a very sad ,lonely socially inept man.
And who is this Kasman? Mate if you are not Summers himself you sound like his gay lover. If not maybe you should give him a call , you guys would hit it off I'm sure ...imagine it ....the exotic location and just the 2 of you against the world.

John Galt says:

Dave, please contact me privately at my email address. Other parties are wanting to know who you are. I believe you can avoid some possible agrivation by conferring with me on a few issues.

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Hi Keith

Are you and these "other parties" threatening me?

Regards
David

Derukugi says:

Johnny:
[[[ I'm still confused what did Stick verbatum actually say or repeat from a submitters article that pissed Keif off?]]]

I don`t know either, but to me it *seems* that what made Summers go ballistic was some less-than-flattering comment on Stick`s site about a Pattaya fleshpot called "Club Boesche". It seems "Club Boesche" is a client of "The Man Tour", so this was seen as business interference.

my2cent:
[[[You have been, and still are, commtting serious crimes in Thailand dude. Wake up. Yoru ]]]

Keith Summers, why don`t you write under your own name? You are so easy to spot, it is ridiculous.

raoul says:

In all of this the person that I admire the most is Whos Your Daddy. Obviously, Whos Your Daddys prayers were answered! He could not afford this prostitution centered lifestyle on his English teachers salary. His wife and his fellow church members should all be proud of him!

On the subject of Whos Your Daddy, a fifty percent contributor to the Stickman Bargirl investigation scam as well as enjoying fifty percent of the benefits, has anyone seen him recently?

He appears to be sliding through all of this untouched and I don't think that is fair. If Stickman has a problem Whos Your Daddy should take fifty percent of the heat..

Anyone seen him recently? Or heard from him?

I have not seen him in close to a month now and the people I know who see him often, fellow whoremongers who do not feel the need to quote scripture, wonder what he is up to.

Dicer says:

Concerned for All and Katsman make yesterday's exchange between Dicer and that swotty fella Tanai Kwai sound like two fat OAPs arguing about the editorial in Exchange & Mart. Tanai Kwai has found his long lost love child and is misty eyed in excitement.... who's missing... oh Grunt of course... probably reached counting to eight in Ukranian. Jack Wow is worried about privacy laws while Thaxo bemoans a fitting obituary. They're all busy... Oh while we're at it David Wyatt the foremost expert in matters all Thai died yesterday too.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2006/11/16/
headlines/headlines_30019121.php

Anonymous says:

Stick you have many fans .Keep up the good work .

Jack Wow says:

Yeh, I understand what you're saying David, let's just hope some of the psycho-tick-tock posts here are just piss and wind. And good on you for trying to break it up with a bit of toilet humour.
btw, faatm, Stickboy can't be Summers - not one single spelling mistake. I agree with what you said about it being too weird for words though.

Kasman says:

This is for David at MangoSauce

When has 2 wrongs ever made a right?

Poetic Justice is bullshit in this matter.

Posting this type of information is not necessary or relevant.

Joe Blow goes to Summers house. Trouble ensues. Joe Blow gets arrested.

Joe Blow says "What the hell, I got his information from Mangosauce".

Right now your the accomplice in any malice.

Not smart.

Last thing we need is for Mangosauce to get taken down like Stickman.

They there will be nothing to read but the writings on the shithouse walls and oh yeh, by the way I cannot read Thai so I guess I am screwed.

-----------

Hi Kasman

"I went to his house and shot him because I couldn't read my favourite blog for a few weeks - Joe Blow"

You don't see a headline like that too often (for a very good reason).

Regards
David

Geoff says:

The options are becoming endless:

www.notnotstickmanbangkok.com

www.stickmanlondon.com

even an ad site trying to captialize off this:

www.notstickman.com

WTF? says:

I was looking at the photo of the LED display Keith is touting on his web site. It looks like some high school kid's science project! I would'nt give two cents for it!

SPQR_US says:

You know this is starting to look more and more like a Greek tradgedy.

Typical murder suicide.

After this all escalated, I started looking around for Asian Signals and "Tragic Ray" several people including David said that Ray had a decent reputation and a small export business. So I figured I would learn more since I thought I could learn a bit.

I checked EBay and the store he had seems to have been "closed". Also all but one of his links I found were dead. Asian signals as a site is just one page now.

Is it possible that in the throws of failure and despair this guy is lashing out? Did Stick somehow meet and or slight this guy in a more personal way than usual? (In my own case stickman added a comment that I was totally wrong about a detail that disagreed with his earlier claims when I wasn't, I just put it down to him being a little quirky).

In Stick's defense his quirkiness was part of his charm as was his primitive website (that I wish he would re-animate).

Anyway this thing looks like a classic murder suicide to me, thoughts?

Dana says:

A thread is really lame when Dicer and Tanai Kwai resist the impulse to take part.

trinksdeadliver says:

Bloody Stickman had the chance to confront Summers and made the choice to ignore the situation.

Summers kept raising the ante and Stick sat back paralyzed and bewildered.

One must remember that Darwin's Law applies in Thailand. Only the strongest survive and the meek shall inherit pain and misery.

Those living in Thailand under the guise of English teachers are fooling no one. A hoard of pasty skinned farangs trying to shag any brown skinned Thai that will open any orifice for under 500 baht.

Greg Daruda says:

I agree 100% with the observation that stickmans readers and submission writers are old, grey , emotionally broken twat/saps. God only knows what a fragile sociopath Keith Summers/Gault is...but Im at a loss to understand why so many other people even give a damn about either one of them, let alone actually 'take sides'...Pathetic !

Bose says:

my2cents... I am not a Stickman fan. Actually I enjoyed John Galt more because of his humourous approach, and weird spelling mistakes. (btw its not "humuliated")

But common sense tells me that Stickman was doing us a favor by running his "serious crime" in Thailand. Do you prefer spending 7000 baht on a farang to know the truth, or 700,000 on your Thai girlfriend and get cheated? He was not a top investigator, but he took a big risk, and spent his time and knowledge for our good.

You said Stickman was engaging himself in a battle with John Galt. When exactly? He kept quiet and kept low like a gentleman, waiting for the insanity to settle down. (They teach you not to make eye contact with plane hijackers.) Its our bad luck that insane people can still do a lot of harm.

howardstern says:

It is tragic what happend to Keith.
I googled his name and it's all sex tour stuff.
Comes up KEITH SUMMERS SEX TOURS.
I mean, that could folow him for life.

chris says:

is that stickboy site for real ,i think its juat a piss take ,enligten me please!

JP says:

In regard to living in Thailand and reading the various web sites around, I generally try to adopt an attitude of not to assume I'm some kind of authority or a person with great knowledge about the place. I also believe in approaching what you hear and read with scepticism as I guess most people would do.

The one and only thing that annoyed me about Stickman's articles was during his PI activities whilst investigating he would say that he was Australian. Why not say he was a New Zealander?

t.s says:

then there are those of us who really couldn't give a sh*t.

TANAI KWAI says:

"Amazingly, Stickman and cohorts are actually feeling self-righteous as if it is Stickman's right to run an illegal PI business and website in Thailand while the rest of us suckers pay taxes and get silly things like work permits and taxpayer ID's."

All involved have committed certain transgressions, as have most of us. If Jesus is returning to earth I can assure you that he will not be taking the form of a condo-dwelling farang who is hustling a living in the gem trade or in the quasi-legal Ebay cycle parts business or in the education/dating game. (Although I did see a guy who was the spitting image of Ted Neeley at Patpong's Safari Bar last week.)

Whatever you think of their professed motives, business activities, sexual proclivities or hairlines, Stick and Galt/Summers are undeniably compelling personalities. While some have dismissed Summers as a grandiose, vindictive nitwit, I think we all must recognize that his bizarre assault against the well-entrenched Stick was clever and inventive.

Unfortunately, the more innocent era of online farang hijinks is gone forever. The precedent has now been established that every farang who posts a blog that some prick finds objectionable may be subject to demonic cyber-sleuthing and, ultimately, attacks on his livelihood. And for this, Keith, I cannot forgive you. (Not that you care.)

You fucked up, whether out of hubris, the Tom Cruise effect, abject greed, corrosive jealousy, or simply a bout of grave stupidity. We all regret what you've done, including you, one hopes.

Did you really send that letter to Stick's boss? Jesus. What's wrong with you? How can you be proud of that? Good God, man, bury your face.

The time has come for you to apologize and then to discreetly and valorously disappear for at least a few years. Since you are so fond of "stand-up" guys, recognize that this is the stand-up thing to do.

In this environment, it’s hard to justify putting oneself out there in the service of a substantially vicious farang "community," using the term loosely. There are much easier ways to make a baht.

But what the hell.

TANAI KWAI says:

Sorry, by the way... brilliant post, David. One of your finest.

TK

Fun Times says:

Bose I agree with you to an extent on this statement:

"Do you prefer spending 7000 baht on a farang to know the truth, or 700,000 on your Thai girlfriend and get cheated?"

However, while this may be true, whats not to say that Stickman could be lying about his intentions in the nightlife? Given his track record for being not always being completely honest. For all anyone knows, he could easily go out and short time the same girl he is investigating. Yes, I know Stickman is married, but how many married men in Thailand are truely faithful are to their wifes? Let's be realistic here.

Now that I really think about it... how fucked up would it be for Stickman to take some poor suckers money, go to the bar, get drunk, and then fuck the guy's girlfriend? Stickman or any private eye could easily do this. Just something to consider, before sending money to a complete stranger with a made-up web persona.

Common Sense says:

Since I'm leaving the military soon I will be in need of a new job. I'm thinking of taking of Stick's PI business. I promise not to operate under any false pretenses. I will simply ask the name, bar, and tag number of the girl in question. Once I have paid her bar fine and got her back to my hotel room I will shag her in every conceivable position while secretly videotaping this. You will then have videotaped proof that your whore is in fact a whore(gasp).

So how many of you morons are willing to learn the hard way that your girl does not really mean it when she says "me love you long time". Any takers????

Pedro Munez says:

I would like to see these two debate it out at the Bangkok Foreign Correspondents Club. It would likely be the biggest turnout that they have ever had!

It could be billed as Bangkok Stick versus the poor (probably Taksin supporting) hard on his luck Isarn whatevertheguysnameis.

my2cents says:

Tanai Kwai:

Your name implies you are a lawyer. If you are aware you should be aware that Stickman violated and is violating the following laws:

Alien Business Law
Lese Majeste
Work Permit Law
Tax Evasion

Now he is going on to terroristic threatening, defamation and possibly assault.

You can belittle the situation if you like. Maybe nothing will come of it, maybe something will. But people that are counselling Stick to go on with his current and past behavior are not helping him, he is getting bad, bad advice.

No I am not Keith and don't know him. I am someone that knows a lot about filing criminal cases and arresting people in Thailand.

Who do I like more? Keith or Stick? Reading these threads is a distraction from my office work. I wouldn't invite either one of them to my next party.

Eniac says:

"Dave, please contact me privately at my email address. Other parties are wanting to know who you are. I believe you can avoid some possible agrivation by conferring with me on a few issues."


This thinly veiled threat against David from Keith Summers is the icing on the cake.

I was starting to feel a bit sorry for the guy but this promise of 'possible agrivation' shows him in his true colours.

What a fucking clown.

Presumably, the 'other parties' are the criminals who run www.themantour.com.

Perhaps David should be exposing them.

Derukugi says:

"my2cents":
[[No I am not Keith and don't know him.]]

I say you are. It`s too f****g blatantly obvious.

Zaphod says:

This is a quote from the porn section of the "The Man Tour" website:

"If you would like to purchase any of these videos please fill out form below, Hi light & print it, then mail with the appropriate amount of check or money order to: ..."

Doesn`t this idiosyncratic prose and 5th grade spelling not look awfully familiar?
Also, "www.themantour.com" is written in the same butt-ugly format with Frontpage as Keith Summers` site.

Hmm...

croonerism is spap says:

"A hoard of pasty skinned farangs trying to shag any brown skinned Thai that will open any orifice for under 500 baht."

They'll be lucky. Prices start at 500 bht even on scabnasty beach road these days mate.

Fun Times says:

Derukugi:
Dude, chill out man. OK, it obivous that you don't like Summers. But damn... take it easy man. Count to 10. Everything is gonna be all right. Just breath a little... The world didn't end just because Stickman is temporarily gone.

I don't like Summers much myself, but you're all over these threads on some kind of fucking rampage. You're starting to sound just as crazy as Summers. Radical internet warrior.

It's very noble of you to try and defend Stickman. I wonder if Stickman would go out his way to do the same if it was you. Wait.. of course he would. Because Stickman cares SO MUCH about others.

TANAI KWAI says:

"my2cents" writes:

"Your name implies you are a lawyer."

LEGAL NOTICE: Tanai Kwai does not give legal opinions. Statements in this post should not be construed as legal advice. Or as anything else.

"...you should be aware that Stickman violated and is violating the following laws:

Alien Business Law
Lese Majeste
Work Permit Law
Tax Evasion...”

Fascinating. I myself am guilty of “Lesbo Majeste,” the elements of which include:

(i) ingratiating oneself; (ii) to one’s girlfriend and to one's girlfriend’s girlfriends; (iii) with the intent to cajole the lot of them; (iv) to have a majestic all-girl orgy; (v) while you watch.

"You can belittle the situation if you like. Maybe nothing will come of it, maybe something will. But people that are counselling Stick to go on with his current and past behavior are not helping him, he is getting bad, bad advice."

Mmmm, quite. The sooner the Royal Thai Police conclude their investigation of Stick's crimes against humanity the better for us all. The detectives who win this plum assignment can then present their phonebook-sized report to the jurists of the Sandika, who will be on nims and peedles in anticipation of receiving the file.

After the public furor and unrelenting press coverage subsides, the Thai courts can go back to addressing criminal matters of less significance, such as the case of one guy who violated the following laws:

"CORRUPTION/CONFLICT OF INTEREST
- Changed concessions on mobile phone business as excise tax
- Created satellite business to gain promotion from Board of Investment
- Corruption at Suvarnabhumi Airport and the purchase of CTX bomb detection scanners
- Corruption in the construction of railway Airport Link
- Lack of transparency in privatisation of state enterprises
- Media interference

ABUSE OF POWER
- Appointed family, relatives, close aides to highranking positions of the state
- Used state budget without seeking approval from the House in projects to promote government popularity
- Abuse of power by negotiating with foreign countries for the interest of themselves (Exim bank loans)
- Abuse of power by instructing state agencies to investigate assets of government opponents

INFRINGED ON ETHICS AND MORAL INTEGRITY OF OFFICE OF THE PRIME MINISTER
- Sold satellite concession and television station to a foreign country
- Evaded taxes from share sale

INTERFERENCE WITH AUTONOMY OF INDEPENDENT GOVERNMENT ENTITIES
- Interfered with the Senate which appointed independent agencies that checked the government
- Interfered with the appointment of Election Commission, Constitution Court judge and National Counter Corruption Commission and Auditor General

HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
- Extrajudicial killing of drug suspects
- Policy mismanagement and abuse of power in solving violence in the south

FOMENTING PUBLIC DISUNITY AND INSTIGATING VIOLENCE
- Blocked information that checked the government and the prime minister
- Created confrontation between anti and pro government supporters."

But nevermind all of that, let's get back to how Stick defamed and threatened a respected member of the Sex Tour Operators Guild.

"No I am not Keith and don't know him."

I don’t care.

"I am someone that knows a lot about filing criminal cases and arresting people in Thailand."

But I am intrigued by your knowledge of the Thai criminal courts. Please elaborate on how you've been involved with filing cases and arresting people in Thailand. May I assume you are some kind of international bounty hunter? Surely you have a war story or two you can share with the assembly?

Look forward to your reply.

SPQR_US says:

Hi:

"Not Anyone Associated With Thailand Websites"

You said;

"I remember hearing, quite recently, that some US-based tour operator was sentenced to some form of punishment (imprisonment) for providing "sex tours" to Thailand. Something to do with promoting prostitution, which I hear is not all that legal in the "Land of the Free"."

Here's what you were talking about:

http://www.equalitynow.org/english/actions/
action_1202_en.html

David should probably contact these split-tailed "rug doctors" and rattle their cages a bit to make for a lively thread.

These are the ones that got Eliot "The Ambulance Chaser" Spitzer (sphincter) to jail a couple of tour operators.

Equality Now's campaign of venom and violence is a driving force in American male castration and depravation. Their goals seem to be the conversion of American males into simpering geldings and the conversion of American females to fat alcholic butch lesbians.

http://www.equalitynow.org/english/index.html

I am really afraid that the America I know and love is in serious danger of dengenerating to the point where only lawyers and biker bull dikes have any say in our society.

trinksdeadliver says:

I believe this juvenile conflict between Stickman and Non-Stickman has done nothing but tarnish the fine reputation of Professional English teachers working in Thailand.

I departed my homeland five years ago to teach at a very prestigious grade school academy in Bangkok. My observation over this time is that the Internet has brought nothing but plane load after plane load of flesh craved American sex tourist to this country who are a blight on society.

I loathe the writing of Stickman’s column because it offends my literary passion for the written word. If one cannot observe proper syntax and diction then you should simply remove the eyeballs from their sockets using a box cutting tool.

Although it could not be proven that my only famous ancestor was “Jack the Ripper”, I believe I am destined for greatness while residing here in the Kingdom. While my father sat in our cellar during the “Battle of Britain” drunk and crying like an infant, I in no way blame that for my belief that I am superior to everyone else because of my brilliant use of a Thesaurus and punctuation guide. Might I add that my exile from the Ajarn.com forum was self imposed, contrary to other postings.

My current project in development is the website portal www.trinksdeadliver.com . This site will bring the very best literary postings to ever be seen or heard. I shall edit each posting to ensure proper use of the Kings English. Do not fear fellow Bangkok literary explorers, my site shall fill the empty void long created by these two lowly ex-pat plagiarists.

I will ask for you to limit your submission to more than 5,000 words double spaced and topics regarding the nightlife in Bangkok are encouraged. Who the bloody hell would read a site that did not discuss sex and prostitutes. However, I will occasionally add reviews from my Shakespeare workshop, as well as where a bloke can find a good ball massage in Patters. My first column will be a probing inside review of my local production of Macbeth, in which I used all British Ex-Pats and Lady Boys from Nana Plaza.

my2cents says:

Tanai Kawai:

Look, it's a funny reply and you're a funny guy. But if you think that foreigners don't get arrested for the crimes I mentioned, you are misinformed. All it takes is someone who knows what they are doing to gather the evidence and pursue the matter. It's done all the time. You must pracice in other areas of law.

Best of luck to you.

TANAI KWAI says:

"But if you think that foreigners don't get arrested for the crimes I mentioned, you are misinformed. All it takes is someone who knows what they are doing to gather the evidence and pursue the matter."

Theoretically, you can get arrested for any number of activities that are technically illegal. But in cases like Stick's, it generally requires an obsessive, petty cocksucker in the mix to make that happen.

"You must pracice in other areas of law."

I appreciate your interest in my practice. I have, in fact, dealt with criminals in the Thai courts, but I clearly don't possess your expertise.

Please elaborate on how you've been involved with filing cases and arresting people in Thailand.

Thanks,
TK

Mr Shifter says:

trinksdeadliver! Spot on! Mow dat's funny!

Derukugi says:

Fun Times:
[[[ It's very noble of you to try and defend Stickman. I wonder if Stickman would go out his way to do the same if it was you. Wait.. of course he would. Because Stickman cares SO MUCH about others. ]]]

Do I sound as if I am Stick fan? Sorry. Fwiw, I never was a Stick reader. I find his site ugly and his pontificating style boring.
But you are right, this Summers guy gets up my nose. The idea that some semiliterate American sex tour dork declares himself to be Thailands internet police is just a bit too much to take.
OK, I'll take it easy from now on, or post under a different handle, so as to lessen your annoyment.

New to Mangosauce says:

David,

I've been reading your columns for a couple of months now and this post just sealed the deal for me.

Witty, informative, amusing...fun stuff, man. Keep it up!

Not Anyone Associated With Thailand Websites says:

"Here's what you were talking about:

http://www.equalitynow.org/english/actions/
action_1202_en.html"

Hi TK,

yes, something along those lines, though I'm sure I heard about a similar case in the last few months.

Yegods is that scary. Makes me glad to be living in the heart of Old Europe, where working girls can legally register for tax and social security (not that many do) and if needs be I can pop out to a selection of "Thai model apartments" for a quick pop (although at around 3000 Baht for the basic half-hour service that's only an option for extreme circumstances).

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

David, shame you didnt mention Noel Thomas passing away recently.

A great chap and one of most respected witty writers this side of the water.

Remembering he pretty much started off the popular farrang banter writing {Trink exception} about all things Asian.

Thaxo.

Paddy Rice says:

I see that Siam Hymen-Hunter (Keith Summers) has thrown in the towel and admitted defeat: his site has dwindling numbers and the walls are closing in. His hairline is so far back now, he combs his fringe from under his armpit. Tracked by satellite, we see his Kawasaki LED underpants streak through Udon in a random pattern. He even has feedback on his ebay site proclaimming he is an undesirable in Thailand because of his sex tour activities. I'll wager that he will be gone from Thailand in less than 3 weeks.

Keith Summers pervert pederast greek asiancycles virgin fool muppet thailand roast potato blackpool rock satan knob cheese Isaan sly spite envy star trek Borg Bjorn thai translation Yaa Baa sweetbreads... ad infinitum

BIARCH says:

MAN WHAT A FUS ABOUT NOTHING STICKMANS SITE WAS OK BUT IT WAS FULL OF DREAMERS THAT YOU HAD TO TAKE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.

STICKBOY IS FUCKING MADNESS ANOTHER FURITLOOP TRYING TO JOIN THE CIRCUS

GUILT SOUNDS LIKE ANOTHER UP THEMSELVES FARANG WHO COULD NOT MAKE IT WITH HIS OWN LOCAL WOMEN SO HE NOW THINKS HE IS GOD IN BBK.

IT WAS FUNNY TO READ THAT WAR THAT WENT ON BUT REALLY AT THE END OF THE DAY WHAT DID IT ACHIEVE??

Zaphod says:

Biach:
It achieved that Biach got so excited he forgot where the capslock key is :-)

tonychang says:

Re: Stickboy
It looks as if this fella may be responsible for it:
http://www.brightblackinternet.com/2006/11/
stickmanbangkok-named#comments

sorry if this has been posted before but cant be arsed to trawl through all the comments on this subject

Rick H. says:

This topic just wont go away. If I want to read about Stickman, I'll go to his website (although that will never happen). Please move on. This is becoming StickmanSauce.

ozricdan says:

this is a true account of the many peeps that do come to thailand as sex tourists.

i know, i have met them.

so true.

i always thought the saying i heard was: you can take girl out of the bar but you cant take the bar out of the girl. so many different preposterous propositions so many prefaces of preposition.

http://www.thailandstories.com/article/non-fiction/
humor/the-man-about-town.html

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