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September 25 2006

NOT Stickman's Guide to Bangkok

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Stickman fans will be in for a treat when they discover the deliciously subversive "NOT Stickman's Guide to Bangkok."

Every Thursday, Stickman's nemesis, John Galt, rips the piss out of our favourite "Bangkok Commentator" and then goes on to show him how a Thailand nightlife column should be written. He also talks knowledgably about living and working in Thailand.

Galt's style is actually quite reminiscent of the early Stickman before he developed an inexplicable distaste for the "naughty nightlife" and we could be witnessing the Thailand Webmaster equivalent of a military coup.

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The best prank so far was Galt's use of Google Adwords to promote his anti-Stickman site on the great man's own homepage. It took days for The Stick to notice and, by that time, half his readership was already in on the joke.

Far from being another upright and chaste English teacher, the energetic John Galt runs a successful export company and likes to shag around.

NOT Stickman's Guide to Bangkok: Embracing Thailand values ... not begrudging them

[Posted to Internet by David]

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Readers' comments

Gally says:

Ha ha

Well funny

Hope Mr Galt doesn't get the shit kicked out of him like Sticky babe, though

Still waiting for his weekly column to tell all about the bashing he got, come on Stickman we all wanna know what happened

sniffer says:

About time somebody took the self-regarding, semi-literate Kiwi buffoon down a peg or two. I'm sure he'll take it in good part, though, as his ability to laugh at himself is legendary. Anyone desiring further guffaws is strongly recommended to get himself over to Stickman's book review page. It's beyond parody

Sparky says:

Somewhat spitefull and cruel .. but at the same time, utterly hilarious and refreshing, akin to the loss of Thailand's Party-Pooper-in-Chief

Combover says:

In my view, within just a few weeks of starting NOT Stickman, Galt is losing form almost to the level of the tedious Kiwi himself.

It's nice to have some mild controversy, but some of his chapter and verse "this is how it is" ramblings are not really much better than Stick's.

Grunt says:

Well, the lead page has it all! Bar girls! Sex toys! Neon lights! Drunken Brit's carting off Thai lovelies! And *rubs eyes* 50's era armor? Holy vehicle identification cards, batman!

Although I found StickMans site fairly amusing for occasional perusing, NOTStickMan is now firmly entrenched in the sloppy seconds position, right behind MangoSauce of course.

Lest I forget...dicer, a lenghty diatribe on the inherent shortcomings of the M-48 Patton Main Battle Tank may be in order? Sure, its a product of America, but its IN THAILAND and therefore fair game!

So dicer, I suggest you begin by pointing out its lack of gun stabilization, and its primitive stereoscopic range finder. Garunteed to induce narcolepsy almost instantly.

Ok, and at least 10 paragraphs on the lack of even a simple generation one thermal sight, then a sneering comment about the anemic powerpacks effect on mobility added for extra flair.

Then, finally, put them all to sleep with a dash of your ever-present "Thailand sucks and so do all of you" condescension added for good measure.

Oh, and dont forget at least one alpha male reference too, dicer. Consistency, dontcha know.

Dicer says:

Grunt,

You're misfiring again....they have no ammo at all...all the toothless old soldiers manning the tanks actually prefer putting on pink blouses and standing cross-legged to appear de-maled, neutered yadi yada.. so no alpha talk.

Here are worthier topics Grunt boy, choose liberally.

1)spontaneous noodle groups

2)rice whisky smirk sessions

3)or my favourite, the two thai planets called nebulous and nefarious

and throw in some non-sequiturs about the subterranean erogenous zones of Ukranian tarts. Once you're done writing post it at anyone of the many sites bout rice tits-n-arse like notstickmans above.

Pattaya Peter says:

I don't know lads, Stickman bashing is getting a tad stale. It's a little incongruous criticizing stickman, yet profiting off his name with a title like "NOTstickman's guide...". We've all be helped by stickman's site when we were newbies. At least he's not a hateful hypocrite like FOX news, or he didn't charter an Airbus and make off with the country's riches...

SadlyLackingMoralFiber says:

So lets rate the sites, in terms of entertainment value and practical advice. My take:
1 Stickman
2 Mango Sauce
3 Thai 360 (formerly NanaPlaza.com)
4 NotStickman

bangkokram says:

Oh my God, i'm blind!

I've just read both Stickman and NotStickman Columns. The white on black as fucked my night vision up. Will the lines in my sight be there permenantly?

Andy says:

Galt reads like a smug motivational speaker type. Using Stickman's formatting and web style to try usurp him is a bit of a laugh, but hope he has more to keep people interested as time passes.
I'd much prefer to read Dicer's happy-go-lucky take on chuckles galore in Smirkland. ;-)

TANAI KWAI says:

"Lest I forget...dicer, a lenghty diatribe on the inherent shortcomings of the M-48 Patton Main Battle Tank may be in order?"

That's pretty funny.

TK

Grunt says:

Bravo dicer, another stellar performance! *golf clap* And please do go on about ALL things Ukrainian as you, having never left your mommys basement, are eminently qualified to judge.

As far as site ratings go, for myself MangoSauce will retain its #1 postion as it manages to cover the positive as well as negative aspects of Thai and Western culture humorously.

Here we find the problem, a possible solution, all while poking fun at western females and dicer (one in the same?).

TANAI KWAI's Mom says:

Dear TANAI

It's your mother here.

That swotty lad Dicer has practically taken over the Mango Sauce chess team and you're just sitting there picking your nose.

Just because you won the last Spelling Bee, young man, it doesn't mean that you can rest on your laurels.

Where is your spunk?

Dicer's mum (the one with the bicycle clips) told Combover's Dad (silver SUV) that Dicer reckons that you haven't got what it takes to be an alpha male.

I think he's calling you a puff.

Sort him out son.

Love
Mrs. KWAI

Dicer says:

It was not long ago that the Hizbullah lads went insane and lined up the missiles in the olive groves to be fired into kingdom not so becoming, and one thinks now our little bkk buddhas grinning on top of the tanks (technical details from Grunt) need a costume. The mullah costume is taken and fatigues are so passe...how about the Salman Rushdie in disguise wig-and-stilletoes costume to allure the already overallured shampoozins and perhaps a few mullahs will catch a flight to the ghost infested new airport.

Maybe Borat can cover it live?

Time to vote:

Do you belong here:

http://www.itv.com/news/entertainment_
30f728d7e3c4022b74231a628747a12b.html

OR here:

http://www.wonkette.com/politics/borat/
kazakhstan-loves-borat-200695.php

I hope Borat comes to Thailand, after he's done with the Kazakhs.

Grunt says:

When an individual, ostensibly or otherwise, sits in a position of enjoyment regarding a person place or thing [in this case the LOS] yet seems incapable of doing anything more then pointing out the flaws of said person place of thing...you are dealing with a western female.

Or dicer.

Remarkable, the similarities?

Dicer says:

Grunt,

that was cute...

repeat after me...this is your mantra, if you forget it come to this page and check again:

when I see a sewer I'll say a sewer not a swimming pool, and certainly not bird bath of baptismal font!

to condense it: sewer swimming pool bath of baptism...there you go.... now deep breath in between mantra.

Grunt says:

Whats wrong dicer, got a little sand in your vagina?

Ill make you a deal, dicer. Man to, well...you.

You lay off the self-appointed elitist routine and Ill stop paddling your little bottom red and raw.

That being said, you are nothing if not a creature of habit. So save us both the trouble and after each post, just assume the position.

Should be second nature to you by this point.

Dicer says:

"...got a little sand in your vagina?"

http://www.spscriptorium.com/SPBios/
SPlexicon.htm

affecting to be a Cartman? so thats where you get your worldview from eh? I hope you have a long line of good Kyle quotes too...just throw in the word "noodling" here and there and it will give the impression that we're talking about notstickman or something about thailand.

Example: Today the anti corruption boys did spontaneous noodling to get to know each other better.

"Ill make you a deal, dicer. Man to, well...you"

In dog psychology this is when the sub pink bubble great dane flashes his de-bolloxed knob to the pack of pekinese... what should the pekinese do? nip?

btw after a week of repeating that mantra the halo you're wearing will fade off.

Dana says:

Most of the above thread was not about the NOT Stickman site because there is just not enough meat on the bone. Entertaining by knocking someone else is effective but of limited hang time. Basically the site is smoke and mirrors posturing as a new point of view. Mark my words: Galt wants to sell things and more and more the site will become a vehicle to introduces Galt products and services you should buy. That is not camp or parody or satire; just mercantilism. His points-of-view are unoriginal, his writing pedestrian, and his proofreading nonexistant. This is a boy in a treehouse throwing stones at a boy on the ground. Boring.

anon. says:

David,

You website comments section is under threat of becoming too tedious to bother with due to a certain few individuals. Please don't let them continue ruining an otherwise lively comments forum.

----------------------

Agreed. Let's call this pissing contest a draw and move on - David.

(12 comments removed)

James says:

Tell me more about Stickman's recent beating. Now that would be an interesting article

Dana says:

Ya know, sometimes the mind just speculates unprofitably.

To wit--is it me or have you guys noticed that the current Dicer and the Tanai Kwai of the pre-Google crackdown period bear a striking literate resemblance?

I'm so persuaded by this idea that I can not get it out of my head. It's TK back in the body--an infestation that can not be beat. Next we'll be getting 'Dicer' lectures on the investment possibilities of Krispy Kreme donuts.

I wish I was clever enough to bring this idea to fruition and uncover the imposter but I'm not. So I guess I'll just continue to enjoy this website and labor under a notion of tremendous appeal.

TANAI KWAI says:

Dana,

I would like to think (though I know I'm wrong) that my longwinded posts of yesteryear were not quite so cringeworthy as certain vast expanses of late. Sometimes, inspiration takes hold and won't let go. (It doesn't help that our mothers goad us on so.

Conciseness takes a bit longer to accomplish but I find it's rarely unwelcome. Intellectual flexion for it's own sake... not so welcome.

By the way, Dana, I don't believe I write (or think) anything like "Dicer." Nor have I ever provoked any tears of ecstacy with my trifles.

In terms of subject matter, anyway, "Dicer" often reads more like a "Greg" on equine steroids than anyone else, what with his "critical mind" palaver, which amounts to fancy vestment for the same barbarous notions about the supposedly impoverished humanity of the Thai.

Dicer's Star Trek geek-caliber command of Thai history, however, disqualifies him from being Greg, who was far more focused on ostentatiously padding his resume in the bedroom. Dicer may well have more in common with Stick.2 as sexual matters go, but I am not at all curious.

TK

P.S. By the way, I commend to your attention the utterly unsurprising three-year chart for Krispy Kreme.

Reader for Democratic Reform (formerly "Caretaker Reader") says:

Yes, come on, what is all this about Stickman getting beaten up? Was it an angry parent? Angry client? Angry investigation subject? Did Mrs. Stick refer to her mother to explain that it's a venerable part of Thai culture to beat up farangs?

rodney deet says:

Regarding the NOT-Stickman's Bangkok...Brilliant!!!About time somebody literate starting commenting about Bangkok nightlife without pretentious middle aged wanking which we get from the Almighty ( I Am A Walking Thai Babe Magnet ) Stickman. He writes all his columns with an embedded self-righteous tone and a know-it-all condescending style. Wank, wank, wank. He really is a repetitive twat. And even though the odd newbie to BK may have learnt a little from Stickman, there's really very little intelligent content on that website that constructively contributes to the expat life within BK itself. If you're an absolute self-deluded computer geek, then you would relish Stickman's imbecilic Weekly Column which is really nothing more that a weekly wank from an aging Farang who is psychologically self-exiled in a country which is a urinal compared to his own, with no other option but to wank about it every week, call it "Stickman's Weekly," and pretend that he loves living here because he has no other durable options up his sticky sleeve! RIP Stickman!

Grunt says:

My apologies to the MS gang. I just found myself seriously bothered by the constant degredation of Thai culture on a site created to exploration of that same subject.

Ill hang my head and shame and keep my mouth shut now.

Dick Renegade says:

Grunt can lick my sandy vagina with Heinz tomato ketchup.

Dicer says:

"Is it me or have you guys noticed that the current Dicer and the Tanai Kwai of the pre-Google crackdown" - Dana

It's you.

"Dicer .....fancy vestment for the same barbarous notions about the supposedly impoverished humanity of the Thai. " _ Tanai Kwai

A BIG YES. "barbarous notion" ... what a curious bamboozle phrase? disambiguation, one bamboozles back!

Given the known old animus between the huge egos lurking in MS we still get a miasma of faux analysis and speculation. Two by individuals who are learned: one tentative and chastened; the other redeemed and reflective or is it redeemed so as to collect his then trenchant now concise wits, an evolution in MS mannerisms it seems. And two awards. One is the Sigmund Freud award for identity scanning. The other is for the redeemed brief speaker. However one goes a bit further and reads the following remark.

"Dicer may well have more in common with Stick.2 as sexual matters go, but I am not at all curious."

puke to eternity....blah blah and who by a strange caprice of the forum owner was admitted to fling himself about.

Grunt,

As for keeping shut you do exactly that.

"degredation of Thai culture on a site created to exploration of that same subject. "

I'd say what is denigrated is your skewed grasp of ideas that have added up with detail that gives them credence, but somehow with you got confused for their order. Yes, they smile and they are nice...and moving on, let's come out with some baaad stuff..... poor Grunt... It's like someone opens the MS door, which moves noiselessly and easily, walks in with trepidation and readily apologises yet jabs to have a go at anything negative...and "for the sake of it" cried the man abruptly.

Which preety much makes what happens so far look like a picnic. "On a site created to exploration of that same subject" oh really? prevaricating forever eh? How disingenuous the apology while at the same time keeping head high to be the arbiter of such things and to announce MS as a peg on which to hang any favoured thai topic? Contradictions abound....having consulted the dog psychology manual again I revise what I said about de-bolloxed great dane... great dane also has bulldog complex). It's like a macho kateoy...what a contradiction.

It is like saying. "I could not understand the fondness some people have for confusing their heads by dwelling on negative comments about Thai culture that merely awaken theirs and others doubts and excite their imagination, giving them a bent for exaggeration, quite contrary to the positive simplicity required in an online forum." Well how can we, miserable outsiders that we are, explore the terrible and foggy Thai secrets shrouded in an impenetrible veil without at the same time inducing some people like Grunt here to feel ill at ease.

All the above seems to reflect a view rather than provide one. So here is an example.

You finish work late and run into a soi Cowboy go-go only to realise that a few people are clearing up and none noticed you. While taking in the acrid scent of an empty go-go bar what kind of positive thoughts - apart from "bugger" - circulate in your head. Are you going to start admiring the chair arrangement, the polish, or are you going to imagine it populated by the cuties. For both you require drugs. Any sensible person would think the place is a shithole without a puzzy rotating round the chrome pole or flinging itself at you. But take heart, there is always tomorrow. Best to go out into the open air and join the hookers on noodling break. Maybe you can score there. Thinking positive is ok in the right places, not when it is out of step with reality. And here, the one talking incessantly makes an effort to control himself and not become vehement or scolding. Is this my Achilles heel? More like an Achilles body I'd say. Maybe a mantra button somehwere would help.

btw NotStick seems to talk nineteen to the dozen while the original is just dry and insipid.

Grunt says:

Now dicer, I know simple logical concepts are nearly impossible for you to grasp, let alone respond to in anything remotely resembling an adult fashion.

So while a renegade dick slathers you with god knows what, I will ask yet another fantastically simple question you will be unable to answer.

If Thailand is so mind-bogglingly horrible, why are you there and more importantly why are you here?

TANAI KWAI says:

Dicer,

I should have mentioned that conciseness also has the added benefit of increasing the chances that one's posts are actually read, and not merely glossed over like so many banner ads for free ringtones.

You do so desperately want to be read, I assume? (Please don't answer that as I am trying to avoid the downside of rhetorical questions, which is that they are sometimes mistaken for invitations to interact.)

I will only say that I long ago abandoned the chore of sifting through your partially digested thoughts in search of flecks of entertainment. Your love affair with your own stream of consciousness is one for the ages, and will be written in the skies with a billion glimmering ellipses.

Please either leaven your writing in some way that makes it suitable for, say, reading -- or announce yourself early on as a courtesy. Sometimes I fail to note the author and I'm halfway through one of your posts and it's like, "oh fuck, that's another 35 minutes I'll never get back."

moss says:

Dicer is "Cog", D@na...good to see the both of you back!

Andy says:

Dicer just needs a job presenting game shows or as a daytime radio host. I'm sure his happy-go-lucky demeanor and cheeky-chappy repartee will mark him out as one of Asia's top light entertainers!
Can anyone think of a good catchphrase for his character? ;-)

Dicer says:

They are compelled to reply back. Not that compulsion is something that would drive them...naaah, of course not, never....

Tanai Kwai seems to have grown gentler, or as close to it as he can be, restrained in his choice of words and measured in his request for me not to reply back to him. So I wont. Except changing "partially digested thoughts" into "inedible buffet" and to add that one should try to masticate even harder, as a beta buffalo does.

Grunt, I thought you decided to shut up. What's with the polarity? We dont get too many chances to repeat ourselves, but when silly questions are thrown endlessly it becomes like what shrinks call transference neurosis. I cant help you here.

Can anyone think of a good catchphrase for his character? Andy

polymorphously perverse would please Grunt.... or...hmmm naah you said "good" so I'll let MS graduated wordsmiths have a go....

Ted says:

Where exactly do we see Mr Galt's work?

Dilip says:

HE,
By the way, don't miss out exploring the controversy regarding the new spoof site called 'notstickmanbangkok.com' . Read hilarious comments on this, that follow the article on it at mangosauce.com

Incidentally, Stick and his loyal followers at least try to be gentlemen. The other bunch has no such pretentions, which is a relief.

Thanks for the explanatory note on your nom de plume HOMO ERECTUS. Otherwise I would have thought it was proclamation of a proclivity. Not that I have any view on that.

Dilip.Mishra@mtnl.com
28.9.2006

Dilip,

I agree with you that it is about life! The site for many people is theraputic (I use it for therapy) in that most of the submissions are about getting it out or getting over it. Some people use it for a soapbox and others use it to share... either way I like it. I am going to the Mango Sauce site Thanks for the tip...

Homo erectus - ("upright man"); a hominin species, ancestor of modern humans. Credited with; first to use and control fire, use tools for killing and cooking, built rafts traveled over the oceans (looking for Isaan/Thailand), the first early human to fit squarely into the category of a hunter gatherer society and not as prey for larger animals.

Homo Erectus
askhomoerectus@yahoo.com
25.9.2006


HE,
I loved your story appearing on Stickmanbangkok, it is about LIFE. Hope to see the rest of it soon. Wonder if Stick got his hedache halfway through, on getting the drift of your piece. He seems partial towards submissions from (s)ex/pats/tourists nursing a little disaffection for life in their home countries or a dispensation to be enchanted by the exotic pleasures so cheaply available in some asian lands. Yet, it is great site - a terrific compilation of diverse experiences and thoughts - a historical documentary of this unique cross-cultural phenomenon. Farangs living in or planning to visit Thailand may be the main readers and contributors, but there are lessons here and I suspect it is read much more widely around the world for the insights the material could give to a serious observer. I learnt a lot from the site called Mangosauce, too. Not only about Thais, but about Brits, Aussies, Yanks, Dutch, Arabs, Japs, Chinese, Indians and the rest of the world that drifts in and out of the LOS and surrounding places mostly for a piece of prim mongoloid ass.

Dilip.Mishra@mtnl.com
23.9.2006

Grunt says:

A day with dicer, a local restaurant;

Waiter brings dicer a bowl of soup...

*dicer slurps some soup*

"Ugh! This soup, how revolting! This has to be the worst soup I have ever tasted!" - dicer

*dicer slurps some more soup*

"Disgusting! This place is a sewer I tell you!" - dicer

*dicer slurps some more soup*

"Hey dicer, if the soup is so horrible, why do you keep eating it?" - Grunt

"Silence knave, how dare you point out my monumental ignorance and hypocricy?! I come here every day, not to eat mind you, but for R&R!" - dicer

"Need some condiments with that soup dicer? Its fresh from my vagina!" - the renegade dick

*dicer slurps some more soup*

"Disgusting!" - dicer

*dicer slurps more soup*

"You all suck more then this soup, but I am perfection incarnate!"

*dicer slurps more soup*

"Add mindless drivel related to transindental meditation and/or alpha male behavior here" - dicer

Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum...

namban says:

Dana, just read your Sept 26 post. How can you possibly compare the drivel posted by Dicer with TK’s posts? It is like comparing a tuk-tuk with a Rolls Royce. Surely this is a wind-up? I know this guy and he is an embarrassment to everyone he meets even including the lady-men who get turned off by his incontinence pants. The only possible, very tenuous, connection with the Tanai Kwai name is that Dicer prefers a katoey kwai.

sandman says:

I learned two important things from the Stickman site. A)If you have a great time in Thailand don't go and live there as you will cease to have a great time and B) Don't marry a Thai women as you will become just as pussy whipped as if you had married a British or American women except the possibility of having an intelligent conversation will be absent from the relationship.

Chico says:

I enjoy reading the stickman website, indeed it gave me some good info about thailand when I was a newbie.

I have to say Notstickman is a great idea, and an amusing read. Increasingly, I have come to think along the same lines as mr NotStickman. Although I bear with Stick because his site can be a good source of info. Having said that its clear he's become a bit of a hypocrite; on one hand he suggests that the 'naughty nightlife' is not a good thing, and on the other he publishes a column, half of which goes on about it. Moreover, he is obviously making money from it via his bargirl investigations.

I find that a little bit 'questionable', as stick would say.

namban says:

we all know that the guy who posted under "namban" is actually Franger. what a dickweed. You saw my comments to Dicer on another thread and thought you could have your go here. You cant even use your own moniker you piece of dog shit.

nambam says:

No Dicer,
We all know that nambam is one of your numerous identities that you use to post toady comments to yourself. Otherwise whoever would even notice or think that it is worth while?

namban says:

yeah whatever. It's self evident that you are quivering in hatred. It is not good for you mate. Using others identity is cheap. Any issues you have with Dicer take it up with him. If you used your own name here I wouldnt have bothered. You dont even have a clue what "namban" means.

look youself up here and you know what I mean. http://www.mangosauce.com/learn_thai/
thai_insults_is_farang_a_racial_slur.php

If you still insist on being "namban" carry on....What a sad cunt.

nambam says:

You are very unobservant Dicer, er.. I mean namban. My name has nothing to do with slush although it surprises no-one that yours does. Grunt had the right idea but he should have had you drinking the dog’s piss version. I would like to say that you are a total arsehole but I fear that this would be a gross insult to other arseholes. The best that can be said is that with posters like Dicer/namban who needs enemas?

Combover says:

I see Galt has now given MS a thank you nod for the increased traffic last week. Nevertheless, his approval is as diffcult to win as he purports his opinions are to buy. Plenty of sauce but little substance seemed to be his verdict. Fewer chips and a little more sauce might not go amiss on his own site. I'll be staying here for now.

mongallai says:

Stickman rules!

OK, he can be a little hypocritical of the nitelife, but can't we all sometimes? His is still the bkk bible for newbies, and his recent interview with Mr Eden was a great read. While MS was taking an "anti-foreigner" break the stick was still writing his weekly article. MS looks more pleasing on the eye, but the Stick always seems more honest about who he is - a guy who will always be drawn by the nightlife but still wants the good wifely comforts that Mrs Stick gives.

Dicer says:

Grunt, you could be a perpatetic case for a new definition of "persistence," in a manner not unlike the happy air of a school boy called up before a large audience for an examination in which he smulgy feels sure he'll distinguish himself.

Puckering his face as if driving off a troublesome fly....On a closer look however, you sound like you're ensconced in a suburban bubble or perhaps are in the pipeline to becoming the overwrought emasculated yank man in his midlife crisis, a man you can uniformly design, like an avatar made to a consumer choice. THIS is precisely why I find others' superimposed reality a recurring theme in Thailand.

Your "degradation of Thai culture" accusation is funny. We dish it out to everyone in equal measure, not only to the Thais. And this is particularly so in regards to foreigners who live here. If anything foreigners who amble from one blunder to the next provide us an entertainment to comment on. The following character illustrates what is meant by this.

Not far from here up in the Chiang Rai mountains I have a neighbour from Ohio. He's been living with a local tart 4 out of the 15 years he's been here. One day I asked him if he spoke Muang (that's Northern Thai language) and he said, "what's that then?" "You know northern language?" No was the reply. A few other questions followed with baffling answers. Here is someone who has been in Thailand for 15 years and couldn't care less to find out basic facts about the locals. And then he told me that his girlfriend wanted a Honda Jazz. He told her he couldn't afford it. What did she do? Pulled out a kitchen knife and chased him out of the house barefoot. There are toooo many of these stories. OK, let's say these are case studies and research. Maybe even avuncular therapy. You don't say to this guy, sorry you are too pathetic to be a case study, because in the end you want a spectrum. We need him harassed by the knife wielding local tart as a benchmark. Something odd to watch. And you ask the question, how long does a person put up with this and what is the outcome? One thing clear is that Ohio Man is mentally still in Ohio. Which is what I normally refer to as psychosis, the classic western mayo brained stupidity writ large. You find out that some of these people do not have any insurance, no contingency plan, nothing except the monthly stipend they collect from wherever and their only concern is the once in a month tourist visa run. Have you ever lived in any other country on a tourist visa for 15 years? I hope not.

You have to sift through levels of background here. Leering on the set are the locals. Then you have the younger foreign vagabonds. Whereas Bangkok has a way of Blade Runner about it Northern Thailand is full of space people out to begin with. Locals can deal with the environment, foreign barbarians and esp the geriatrics rarely can and simply get worse. Pretty soon the criminals are the only ones who can hold a conversation. This continues to a higher degree as you get closer to Burma. I keep finding this as though the very act of life is going to surprise these karmic canines.

And now that visa rules have changed you see them in yellow polo shirts grovelling at the feet of immigration officers. The disgust on the Thais' faces is palpable. There are thousands of these guys up north. Retired & vagabond foreigners with very little understanding of what's happening.

And then we come to the locals. Which is where you're troubled with in your missive. Yes, most of them have no clue about the outside world. No education. No principles. No morality. And you have a sort of self declared national retardation throughout the country. Not interested. Dont know. Dont care. None of this is news. When you have the psychotic foreigners and retarded locals in a singalong, albeit the former don't know the script (it's not my culture and I dont care attitude), the incongruity is irresistible.

Once I say this your neural pathways are quickly filled with offence. Come now.... Something has to be indicative and conclusive. This is the whole pattern.

Also you had a poke at meditation, which is probably something you know a bit about? In dhammakaya meditation you learn that whether you are in Bangkok or New York one place is as no place as the next one. The first step is to face the harsh reality in front of you. With a degree of sangfroid you follow that up with a survival strategy. Meaning? Learn Soup Making. The answer is to make your own. Or you buy the restaurant and fire the cook. What you missed in your soup missive is the action at the end of logical follow-ups. You cant have follow-ups forever. You have to synthesise, conclude and act. The alternative is to join the deluded people, the karmic people who finally regress into psychotic canines.

An allegory in a zoo of mongers.

Hasnt it kicked in yet Grunt? A dog knows what to do and so do locals here. You are not here so you can speculate. What would you do?...nip around until they stomp you? Or whimper like a slave.

You ask anyone of these guys WHAT DO YOU WANT and it is pretty funny the mumbles you get back. The same vacuous demented lost faces you see roaming around here. Well, Ohio Man has got snuckums the village pekinese and gave her everything except Honda Jazz, but she is mean and not nice to him...The question is why should a pekinese partner with a farang (or a senile hyena if you like) in the first place? Imagine a demented geezer coming to Thailand looking for pussy and is lost in the sneer nation at work, the cheating, the deals. You dont need comedy here as it's hard to out do reality. The situation is, our veritable psycho-geezers are so far into the back alleys of reality it is hard to figure what to do with them, where to begin... No one knows about these sordid array of misfits. One would want to know. Why, you look at the situation and you cant help laughing. One somehow figures these people with closed minds and no language have drifted off from reality into a very strange world where wishful thinking is supposed to cure everything.

We hear in the end, you saying "But surely we are all dogs." No Grunt we are not! The pekinese is a nose made good for shagging and out the door. The complexed hyena wants to romance it. And receives posthaste nip by pekinese.

Then you will have noticed as well that the very same bloated senile old farang hyena trying to press his luck with other local pekinese. Now the average US man goofing about in Thailand is a wuss with a bald head and wandering like the senile hyena. He thinks there is no one to challenge his status. But hey a psychotic and geriatric hyena has no status in the first place. It's just a sad spectacle. The moral is that dogs do not need training as they know exactly what to do, but humans need a lot of work...if you have a pet you need to train it, BE IN CHARGE..and ditto if you end up with a pekinese (hint hint). What does Ohio Man do when a local tart gives him the eye? A conundrum. Or is it lunar peril? Does he study her ovulation-mensus charts or start to culturally analyse her? Come Now. Ohio Man does not even have health insurance and doesnt know any language. Him and his mates are well intentioned geezers, with a mass of screws loose, lecherous geriatrics who can digest clockwork abuse better than spicy food. The odd thing is I think somewhere they actually understand all of this.

The final message to him, you and me from pekinese pack is GET OUT. Even if you are the strong verile type they won't give you male status much less alpha. This is a threat (to them) in any mammal group.

The evidence is that most western men who come to Thailand have had to relinquish the alpha status way before they even arrive. Here they'll run them out of the pack. In dog terms they want you as far out of the pack as possible and submissive all the time and submissive is what they get. Strange thing is that I thought you mentioned the nasty undercurrent at one time - confirming your own conjecture - about the Czech Republic and Ukraine. When you come out with all the stories some say "my you are so conflicted!".... a common expression of misarticulated irritation.

Another acquaintance here bought one in a line of lone huge houses along back rice roads up in the hills...the girl it turns out wanted a bloke for a few months every year. Sure it's his money that bought the house, but the rule is he spends ten months a year in Europe and two here. Perfect. The stipend is the perfect deal. He sends 30 thousand baht a month to an empty house. The family squats next to their hut and laughs. The guy shows up for two months a year just like a divorced husband who's got visitation rights. What happens when an alpha male shows up by mistake. Turmoil. The same family had a younger daughter who met and married a Khmer who was on village soccer tour. Every night the family gathered over dinner to discuss if they had enough money to bump the Khmer off. Here is some true alpha who was living there 24-7 and had no money at all. Eventually the daughter broke off from the family and she and the Khmer disappeared into bkk.

Back to Ohio Man. Here is a man who previously had a yank wife who thinks of herself as Cleopatra, the power lady...the idiot husband runs away to Thailand and now some rice ant is chasing him around with a knife. It's hysterical! There are so many like him. He needs to be told to think of the rice ant as a valuable brief case while on a walk...imagine these people. One can get the nut pekinese to normal until it shows respect. A grown man afraid of a bunch of twit village girls, however, is damned beyond redemption. As you wander around you will encounter more and more examples of pekinese trying to keep you away from alpha level...away from lower rank male and finally away from male all together..and then they keep on pushing , a closed hierarchy or a closed pack until you see guys shoved to the margins finally cry, "she took my house and money."

What would a thai male do in his shoes?

The alpha point is to override the snits...making you lose face (respect) is what Thai society is all about. If you think of yourself as a man... now when Noi starts the sneer, you stop her right there.... You dont achieve leadership through violence or bullying either, but with calm, assertive energy. The dog isn't threatened; it just knows its place in the pack. Control through exercise, discipline and affection. You show her that you are the pack leader.

So Grunter I'm not talking about myself when writing the occasional diatribe. In fact, I’m here for the express written purpose of watching the likes of these foreign psychotic dribs get the bends when resurfacing to neolithic reality and the terror when their local tarts poop and sneer at them from a great height. I log onto my time radar and note the coordinates for karmic canines indulging in non human behaviour. You get the downcast eyes when both sides eventually acknowledge they are on the other side of a time warp and this brings up a hatred...hating time and hating people on the other side of time.

For some reason the psychosis in essence is males who want to live in the margins of a ranked foreign society once they lose it in farangland... and replay the same shit here. Work against Mother Nature.

This is not cultural degradation Grunt, this is temporal denigration. Alpha barbarians would say time damaged. Bleak isn't it? Well it's just a narration of sinewy farang dementia in Thai time warp.

In an air of gloomy gravity....In the end, its a bit like watching a chamber drama cloaked with a go-go soundtrack...local greed to foreign lust..various species of primate, bovine and canine doing survival of the luckiest. The local bit is punctuated with fear, the foreign with stupidity. The local clueless almost as an occupation, incapable of questioning her reality, the foreigner who descends into his self-inflicted personal hell.... The only light relief is the sight of the mounted farang dog shagging away at any cost while the local pekinese nip him from behind.

Dicer says:

Oh...nambo, namban OR nambam, is anyone of you Narin's long lost love child?

TANAI KWAI says:

mongallai writes,

"MS looks more pleasing on the eye..."

An advantage that cannot be overstated. Can you imagine if MS were in the same format as Stick? Speaking for myself, it would decrease my quality of life by 7%.

"...but the Stick always seems more honest about who he is - a guy who will always be drawn by the nightlife but still wants the good wifely comforts that Mrs Stick gives."

I find David's humorous and incisive (but understated) persona to be the draw here. He's been sufficiently "honest" for my taste. Can't think of anything I'm dying to know about his personal mating habits.

Dicer,

I stuck with you until:

"Not far from here up in the Chiang Rai mountains I have a neighbour from Ohio. He's been living with a local tart 4 out of the 15 years he's been here. One day I asked him if he spoke Muang (that's Northern Thai language) and he said, 'what's that then?'"

I don't think your neighbor is from Ohio if he said "What's that then [Guv'nr]?"

When you approached him did he also say, "I'm wringing out me wife's knickers I am... She has such long bacons she does"?

"Only the truth is funny." Sandra Bernhardt

TK

philH says:

I think I've been reading way too many of Dicer's pieces, I started to follow the thread of that last one (not the nambo one). Does this mean I am rising out of or decending into psychosis?

It is said that we are all but elements in a dream. Well, if so, who is the dreamer and what is the dream?

Just to return briefly to the subject of this post I have read both Stickman and Notstickman recently.

Stickman I can say is a complete fucking plonker. Reading his recent piece on "pulling" a bar/gogo girl had me in tears. J. H. Christ he'll have us wining and dining the tarts before we shag them. Should we pitch up at the bar with a dozen red roses to win the heart of our latest lust magnet? Hey Sticky, how 'bout mailing a few Valentines cards? That ought to qualify for some kind of bar fine discount.

Talking about discounts, when is the latest marketing ploy going to hit Thailand? I'm talking about BOGOF's (Barfine One Get One Free), now that would generate some extra low season interest.

Notstickman is OK, writing style is a bit ponderous but he does take the piss out of Sticky which isn't difficult.

Combover says:

Did someone say psychosis? All I see is self indulgent psychobabble.

Give it a rest FFS.

Grunt says:

A day with dicer, a downtown BKK swimming pool;

We see dicer enter the pool...

*dicer splashes around the pool*

"Ugh! This pool is FILTHY! How repugnant! These dirty Thai heathen cant do anything right!" - dicer

*dicer splashes around the pool some more*

"I hate this pool, the water smells like urine and the chlorine stings my Alpha male eyes!" - dicer

*dicer splashes around the pool some more*

"Hey dicer, if the pool offends you so, why not get out?" - Grunt

"Keep your opinions to yourself, pig! Watch your step or I will unleash one of my mind-numbing digital water-torture posts upon thee!" - dicer

"I want to be just like dicer when I grow up!" - the renegade dick

*dicer splashes around the pool some more*

"I hate this country! Death to all things Thai! Im only here for R&R! Im not a hypocritical poltroon! I am google woman, hear me whine!" - dicer

*dicer splashes around the pool some more*

"Lifeguard, I demand you drain the water from this pool and refill it with Evian! Then drown yourself! Scum!" - dicer

*dicer splashes around the pool some more*

"Add rambling stream-of-consciousness intellectual drivel here, yet reduce ability to differentiate between heavy words with heavy thought." - dicer

Rinse, repeat, ad infinitum...

nambum says:

David,

May I respectfully suggest that you open a new section especially for unreasonably long posts? It could be called say, diarrheoa or vomit. In that way. we normal readers would not be obliged to scroll through them – after all, there is much better rubbish on the Stickman site - and those that wanted to could indulge to their heart’s (sic) content.

nambum

anon. says:

I have had it, David. You failed to reign in long winded blowhards with a word count limit and now your site has lost it's appeal. Just too damn tireseome to bother with anymore.

Grunt says:

Well it seems that dicers assigned mission to muddy the intellectual water of this webpage is going quite well.

No good deed shall go unpunished, eh David?

When the enemies of free thought exploit your kindness, its ok to trim the fat. Freedom of speech is not a suicide pact.

daniel says:

i like to read the comments but do i have to scroll though peoples fucking life stories.........

yes david, plese get rid of the long-winded bloggers................

PLEASE!

philH says:

David, in deference to your monosyllabillic neanderthal readers you should limit the posts to one worders, preferentially the four letter kind.

Listen up meatheads, if you don't like what you are reading scroll down. If that gives you repetitive stress disorder hit the page down key. This is the one helpfully labelled "Page Down" but this may be abbreviated on low spec models.

Other than personally offensive and/or racist attacks and tiresome intellectual(?) ping pong matches NO CENSORSHIP.

Dicer says:

Maybe I should come up with an even longer post to see them quivering with their keyboards in foetal position under the desk.... but one actually needs something worthy.... psychosis eventually dissipates and dog psychology evidently belongs in the rich enclaves of California and/or the Discovery Channel....let us brood for a while and we'll see. lol.

P.S. and Ohio Man who speaks in cockney mannerisms has delusions twice removed from his home town.... know what I mean mate aye.

YH says:

Although much of this isn't about Stickman or NOTstickman, here goes.

Whatever Stickman may be, plonker or various other things he has been called so far, he still does offer information to newcomers that are interesting and sometimes useful. I definitely checked out the website before moving here, and obviously many other people have seen it too, given how many people have opinions on the site.

Notstickman, manages humour to a certain extent, but I seriously don't know how you can continue a website with the main aim being to bash another. Galt is forever looking for mistakes or for Stickman to say something he can pick at. Like someone else pointed out earlier, he definitely needs a proofreader. I personally think Galt is rather sad, and should get a life.

John Galt says:

I write the NotStickmanBangkok.com column. I've been reading Stick's column for 5 years. In recent months, trickery and falsehoods have been appearing. There are no excuses for these actions. Lying to the gullible public is completely dishonorable. I'll continue my column until honesty is restored or until his ability to hurt people is sufficiently diminished. It's not personal; it's just what should be done. My thanks to those who support the effort to disrupt dishonest dealings on the web.

Mrs Stick says:

"In recent months, trickery and falsehoods have been appearing"

Explain, John.

TANAI KWAI says:

Mrs. Stick,

Galt's contentions are all spelled out on his site. I find his sleuthing and homespun style to be amusing, on balance. Though I must agree, his spelling can be hideous to the point of being jarring. But quite creative in its mimicry and definitely worth a visit.

A response from Stickman to Non-Stickman would also provide some comedy so do encourage him to rejoin.

TK

Dale says:

Well for starters Catz is certainly not a good bar as portrayed by Stickman. The only thing going for it is that Ricky is there.

Also what happened to Dave the Rave's join up with Stickman? Did the google adsense threat loom ever larger?

Both falsehoods and trickery...

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

sticky's classic lie is his Mrs's perfect English grammar.
l have never met a woman who came close to speaking Engeeelish that perfectly.
Believe me l've slept with just about every yr 1 and 2 and 3 Chula and thama Uni gal over the past few decades.

Thaxo

Brick Top says:

I see that Kiwi fuck head is holding a little get together for those who submit the usual tripe to his forum. I'm going to submit so I can finally meet the guy and kick the fuck outta that cunt!

Justin Joy says:

woah brick top, what did he do to you??

Justin Joy says:

...and Mr Thanksin, what's wrong with Stickman tidying up his wife's grammer?

John Galt says:

Not everything on Stick's site is false. Just some items that are designed to convince people to buy products and services from those who pay Stick a fee.

Is this the real Mrs Stick? Somehow I doubt it. You can contact me directly from my web site. But, of course even then it would be hard to prove it. However, I would know if you wrote like a Thai because I've been listening to them for 5 years. A farang impersonator would not get away with it for long.

Deaner says:

Let the buyer beware John Galt. Your writing makes you sound like some jilted lover... I'm sure Mark David Chapman convinced himself his actions were justified just like you are doing now.

CREEPY

Skwaznag says:

The only crime Stickman has commited is the fucking awfull formatting of his website. In webspeak it's what we would call rather "busy" as for Galt it's all very weird indeed.

Andrew Fox-Russell says:

Before you all say "who cares", has anybody noticed Stick's website has effectively been pulled? Anyone able to shead any light?
BTW, the more I read Galt's website, it would seem he's got some axe to grind...

Jack Wow says:

I noticed last week the Stick didn't bother with his weekly column, now the sites down altogether.
He'll be back - probably just having a long overdue new look added to the website.

bkkred says:

A few things occured to me today.
Primarily the bloody nerve of this Galt fellow setting himself up as our guardian against the evils of the stickman site.Do you honestly want or need to be protected by this guy?
Its the self rightious tone that gets me.The claims that hes defending us from commercial pressure from within the site and then boldly admitting that in fact it has something to do with slagging off his mates bar...so in fact all the spurious claims about consumer protection were BS by his own admission! He claims to merely be interested in the stick himself so he posts pictures of innocent parties with overlays of bananas.How low can you get?
His whole site is so full of absurd contradictions its hard to take it seriously,(as sites go it really is the most amateurish rubbish out there...and the irony is that the guy probably slaved for hours and still got this bucket of shit) and no one would have if he hadnt posted those girls pictures.An unacceptably low blow.
Bottom line.The stickman site is entertainment and we all took it as such.Before this incident I had no particular feeling one way or the other but as a result of publishing those womens pictures and dragging innocent parties onto the net and utterly humiliating them in a country where 'face'is paramount I know what I'll be reading going forward.Congratulations Galt you've turned me into a lifelong stick fan!(whether he reappears or not)I was never once tempted to buy a service,nor visit or ignore any of the places he recommended or otherwise, but as we know Galts stated claims for the site where a heap of horse shit.I looked forward to a good read of an evening and basically enjoyed the time on line and now Galt has ruined it for thousands....thanks for nothing asshole!

p.s. Dear Galt,
I shan't be filing suit,tracking you down in the provinces,trying to ruin your bike business or bombarding your server with complaints (though if I do see you I'll probably cough a large green one into your coke...on the sly of course and then watch you drink it).Why? Because aside from these comments your not worth the bother(apart from watching you drink my bacterial bogies).The worse fate you can suffer is to be ignored(your nightmare scenario) and from this moment forth thats what I'll do (unless I can get close enough to your drink).
Besides I'll be too busy reading the stick or its successor....(and if you really want to punish the devious little shit then thats what everyone should do).
P.s.s.I hope one of your so called 'virgins' gives you herpes.

ilikesittight says:

I think Galt is more "on" than "off" about Stickman. Stick was good before he started making a fortune off of the advertisements and plugs.
I will continue to enjoy reading John Galt more than Stickman until I start seeing advertising and lame recommendations of crappy products and services and books I MUST read.

Soi Dog says:

Whatever your personal take on the Stickman site and the Stickman vs Not Stickman debate, perhaps we should all reflect on the following:


1. The Stickman site, which has been running for many years is currently offline and may remain permanently closed.

2. As a consequence of what has happened both Stick and John Galt will most probably experience some local difficulties, and their respective long term future in the LOS may become untenable.

3. Love him or hate him, most reasonable people accept there was much useful and interesting information (especially for newbies) posted on the Stickman site. This has now been denied to his substantive readership.

4. Much of Stickman's site was made up of readers contributions, who took the time and effort to share their knowledge and experiences. Not all of the opinions expressed would concur with Stick's own view, but in the interests of balance and good journalism he published them just the same.

5. Whatever the personal differences between Stick and John Galt, the personal attack on Mrs Stick and the banana pictures of the young ladies who work with Mr Stick are deplorable. This is gutter journalism at it's very worst and John Galt should be ashamed of himself.


In conclusion, if the loss of the Stickman site is permanent, then we are all the losers. John Galt may like to reflect on the fact that if this were to be the case then his own site would automatically become redundant. It's a question of the parasite killing the host. I say, "Come back Stickman, all is forgiven."

Soi Dog.

IT Specialist says:

"I noticed last week the Stick didn't bother with his weekly column, now the sites down altogether.

He'll be back - probably just having a long overdue new look added to the website."

-Jack Wow, November 5, 2006 4:08 PM

There's absolutely no reason to take a website offline just because you're going to change the look of it or even change to a different publishing model such as a portal or something else database-driven.

Of course Twigboy is a proven techno-peasant: witness the ads for Galt's site via Google AdSense that appeared on Twig's site for several weeks; the late-90's hip black background; the laughable structure and coding of his site.

Our money says that Twig pulled his site thinking he could hide it from the school before the cack hit the cooling device.

Jack Wow (techno-peasant) says:

Cheers geek.

Jim says:

He calls himself the Great Galt! Pleeeease,what a giveaway.This guy must be completely and utterly off his little rocker.To hold a grudge to such an extent where you`d set up a site like that is just so unfuckenbelievably insane.So Stickman makes a bit of money out of ad revenues? Yer,and so what?Get over it.What,thousands of other sites out there on the net make money but Stickman isn`t allowed to? So Stickman committed the sin of "changing" after he got married (like a lot of men do)and suddenly Stickman is no longer allowed to write about the Bangkok NNL with authority anymore? Well,I`ll tell you something.If you don`t like the Stickman site,don`t read it.If you are offended by the ads,don`t click on them.If you don`t agree with what Stickman says about certain bars and entertainment areas well,you just go to the next article.Galt seems to forget the main point here and that is that Stickman.com is Sticks own site to do whatever and to say whatever he wants. As a foreigner(blue eyed)living in another Asian country I found a lot of Stick`s stuff pretty informative for my yearly travels to Thailand.It`d be a great loss for all of us foreigners who read Stick`s columns to have the site remain down for good because of the rantings and envy of one man`s hatred for Stick.

Lucifer says:

I agree!

Nuf said lets move on!

Come on Stick Twig Branch or Root (Rootman?) lets have you back!

Hilarious says:

it
specialist

Stick a IT-Peasant?

he has a diploma from a top NZ College in Computing to prove he is certainly not - it even got him his WP in Thailand ;-)

marklatham says:

john galt is a cunt.

Mow Ling says:

Galt as another perspective was useful. He's very much a one-trick pony, though.

He's taken the anti-stick thing much too far.

Anonymous says:

Come on Galt,
Because of this pissing contest your ending years of enjoyment for us Stick
fans. He has every right to make a buck off his site.If you can come up with a site that draws readers to it , you should also make some money. If you leave out your moaning of Stick, you really don't have alot of content. So get on with life, create some of your own content without ripping Stick and go get laid.

Mad Jack says:

God..or should I say oh my Buddha!(BarGirl Talk I hear:)
I feel like I've been reading a bunch of oxfords grads whining. DO you really care if Stickman makes money as a quote: PI or Weekend writer?
Who really cares if he bad mouths the bar life but then writes about it? This has become like the story of a guy who was a good guy(I didn't say Great)and lived and worked hard at what he did and one day he gets singled out for a crime he didn't do. EVERYONE JUST about turned on him but in the end, he didn't do it. His life was still a , How you boys say it a Crapper after that? In the end, lets get back to our work as punters or you expats(God I hate that word too)and get laid and you expats go do the voodoo you do to that barstool so well:) and let Stick do his! YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT YOU KNOW, BUT MOST OF YOU WOULD AGAIN I THINK..:)

Videovic says:

I hope Galt gets his lights punched out.
Go get him Stick.

hueston says:

Stickman, you have my support.

Dave The Rave says:

Hello David & Readers,

I noticed that my name "Dave The Rave" was mentioned, so I thought I would reply. I was writing for Thailand-nightlife.net but I decided to quit. After knowing Stickman for over five years and supplying Stickman with nightlife news, Stickman offered to host my nightlife newsletter on his website. I took my time to deliberate my options, but finally decided to launch my own website. The launch of www.DaveTheRaveBangkok.com occured previously to the Galt VS Stickman flame war. The timing although coincidental has worked in my favour. Please visit my website here - http://www.DaveTheRaveBangkok.com

dave says:

fuck stickman fick galt, fuck dave the rave,who the fuck r they,fucking wankers who get off dribbling shit on the net.

Pants Elk says:

"dave" says: "fuck stickman fick galt, fuck dave the rave,who the fuck r they,fucking wankers who get off dribbling shit on the net."

"dave", when it comes to "dribbling shit on the net", I don't think anyone can come close to you*. With this short comment you show yourself to be the sheik of shit-dribblers! Respect!

(*Well, okay, there is a select band of shit-dribbling clowns here who could give you a run for your shit-dribbling money. So don't think your title is a lifetime award! Drool some stool NOW to stay ahead of the pack!)

Zaphod says:

What was the term, Tourette's Syndrome?

canipsi says:

"I'll continue my column until honesty is restored or until his ability to hurt people is sufficiently diminished. It's not personal; it's just what should be done"

mr summers, if you truly believe this statement do you really think you should hurt someone else?

do two wrongs make a right?

Confused says:

Sorry, but how did this whole "NOTStickmanBangkok" thing start? What did Stickman do (or not do) to Galt? The whole site seems like sour grapes to me.

Anonymous says:

Why do you lot want to poke fun at us western women anyway? (and please come up with something other than "fat, and not subservient enough")

Prufrock says:

Isn't this really David working the threadcount ;-)
Anonymous: Why do you lot want to poke fun at us western women anyway? (and please come up with something other than "fat, and not subservient enough")

Okay: Nonny-tits-like-clown's pockets-Muss

How's this: Regarding your post.

"res ipsa loquitur"

Prufrock
(Monostat franchisee for SE Asia)

I have to have a part time job because this franchise barely covers the cost of staying on line here.
The land of clean crack, Ms. Faustbox.

No fat, no subservience meant but how do some of you manage to actually, you know, wipe your butts?)

fbuom says:

Anonymous,

Truth hurt?

Anyone who believes Thai women are subservient has no long-term experience with them. There's more than a little humor/irony/sarcasm in the tagline at BGF.

Any daughters of mine would be taught to be self-reliant, strong and independent. But their mother would teach them to pick their battles, too. By example, she'd teach them how to make their partners _believe_ they are at least kings of their own castles. Manipulative? A bit, but the old saw about honey and vinegar still holds. I think we find more 'honey' in Thai women.

In other words, assertive? Yes. Aggressive? Predatory? Absolutely not!

As for body type, there is evidence that cross-culturally, men (and women) find the same physical attributes attractive. Symmetry was one positive. Child-bearing capability was another. That second criterion was found to reflect a cross-culturally similar body type. I don't believe over-weight was an attribute.

Then there's simply personal preference. Without regard to ethnicity, some men like tall, big-busted women, some like tall, slender women, some like small women. Personally, whether 'western' or 'Asian', my preference is the latter. Possibly because that reflects my mother's type (yeah, there's evidence that we - men _and_ women - look for our mother in our spouse, too).

Besides, Anonymous, you're reading a blog on Asia, specifically Thailand. What kind of preference do you expect the males to have?

fbuom

ozzie in isan says:

I was really sad to read that stickman has been taken "off the air". There is nothing I can add to the comments above other than to reiterate.Galt is a waste of space and so what if stick made money? We all have to live. Years of good work down the drain and a service that no lobger exists for the newcomer. It is disgraceful. Shame on you Galt you cunt. I will watch out for you.

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