Galt silences Stickman

Bangkok Bad Boy says:

Yeah, spotted that earlier.

I guess Galt's posting of photos of Stickman's colleagues yesterday was the final straw - will be interesting to see what he does for material now!

Calvin Klein says:

Stick would be pooping his pants after the latest post where NOT stickman has posted employee pictures and revealed his workplace... a google later and I was looking at Sticks picture online!

canipsi says:

when i first looked at galts website i thought that he was just using stickmans name to try to build up his own reader base and found it amusing but after reading his latest article "the bannana girl" it is plain for all to see that, for some unkown reason, he holds one hell of a grudge against stickman.
as much as you hate anyone i think it is abominable to launch such a personal and public attack on someone and treat them in such a manner as galt is treating stickman for the pathetic reason that he gives;

"The axe I grind is that Stickman is cleverly taking advantage of people in ways that are clearly questionable. Stick very cleverly mixes truth with fiction and, in the end, his readers are the suckers who pay the tab."

does this faceless bully think that this picayne fact justifies trying to sabotage someones career?
i would also like to add that i think that your article on this subject really hit the spot.

Dana says:

Ok, everyone is so smart: perhaps you smart guys would like to do a net tutorial on such items as restraint of trade, and libel, and slander, and unreasonably aggressive journalism, and . . . oh, and I almost forgot the best part; what exactly would you call posting innocent father's daughters on the net posting with bananas? Mr. Galt can start a fight. Can he finish a fight? I hope he knows where his passport is.

Matt Crook says:

I personally don't care for Galt and what he says. Initially it was novel but that soon wore thin.

that darn cat says:

Its about time stickman was 'outed'. I have heard too many credible accounts of stickman trying to ruin bars of people he just doesnt like, as well of reports of him ripping off his 'clients' of his investigating service et al ad nasuem. what goes around comes around, and clearly stickmans bad karma has finally caught up with him.

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Bukseeda says:

Play with fire Sticky and people will find out what you have been trying to keep secret for so long !
I was getting bored with Galt and thought he had started to clutch at straws until he dropped the bombshell that I am sure many have been secretly wanting someone to drop. So Stickman has been outed, and now he has taken his bat and ball and stormed off (only temporarily I hope).
Get over it Sticky, I enjoy reading your site and so do 1000's of others, but when you go round pretending to be an Aussie when you are doing your unsavoury business (what, Kiwi's have such high moral standards that they would never go to a bar?)
I consider myself a fan of your site Stick, but get off your high horse..please..

thebamboorat says:

Does seem a bit strange to devote most of a website to endlessly kicking the shit out someone else (we've already got TK vs Dicer for that sort of fun). A bit parasitic too when you really think about it. If Stick is forced to bail out where does that leave Galt? The subject matter for 80% of his posts will be gone. Most parasites are usually not stupid enough to kill the host that supports them.

Does anyone know what's behind John Galts intense dislike of The Stick? Must be a good story?

As Dana says, posting those pictures may well come back to bite John Galt on the arse in a very big way.

Looper says:

This John Galt Guy is priceless. He went on about the sanctity of anonymity of webmasters recently and how a bit of ribbing is all in good fun (or was that just a tease?) and then he goes and posts Stickman's school details on the web. Nice one John Galt. I reckon you'll be getting yours in the not too distant pal.

Andy says:

Galt's pastiche of the Stickman site is clearly a "one trick pony" and after running out of "jokes", he has decided to get nasty.
Must be something very personal to precipitate all the vitriol? Personally, I find Galt's site about as amusing as a burning orphanage, and hope Stickman seeks to do something about it...

dannyboy says:

so stickman has got a few questionable practices, so what, the guy is trying to make a little extra in Thailand,when the odds are stacked against you when you are a farang.

this john galt guy has some serious issues to address,to post the photo's of sticks colleagues is seriously misjudged and could seriously hurt sticks health and income.how would he like it ?

please Mr Galt crawl back from wence you came and leave stick alone,i for one love his site and so do thousands of others.

Jack Wow says:

Although I expect Stickman to be back I think he's been asking for trouble for awhile now. If I was in the business of investigating lying, cheating bargirls, then boasting about it on a website, I'd be looking over my shoulder all the time. There can't be a more poorer choice of an enemy to make.
So whose got the story on John Galt's beef with Stick? It seems very personal.

Tom says:

Could Galt not end up in some serious trouble for what he's been saying? I mean, this is Thailand, and I was always led to believe Stick had a lot of allies and whatnot. It must be personal and have a hell of a story behind it because really who, except people who hate Stick personally, wants to sit through such a maniacal tirade?

bob says:

it appears that "Mr Galt" is one envious crazy SOB .You would have thought if he wanted to make a decent website with advertising income he used an original idea .

Mr Lucky says:

I wouldn't expect Stick to have 'powerful friends' do anything about Galt. It would look pretty suspicious if Galt suddenly disappeared.

However, the Stick site was doing a lot of good for bar owners all over Thailand. Not a nice bunch to cross, I would think.

chuckwoww says:

"....who, except people who hate Stick personally, wants to sit through such a maniacal tirade?"

You never seen a big bar fight? People love it.

Vertigo Kid says:

its funny to watch all the old sexpat humbacks that worship stickman writh in social isolation since his site whent down. on the other hand, it give the old men something to talk about while nursing their beers all afternoon in nana plaza. To be honest, I think stickman had this coming to him, if it wasnt Galt , it would have been someone else. wake up folks, stickman is no saint, and he is not above being called out for his past misdeeds.

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Bangkok Bad Boy says:

Galt has got Stickman petrified, that's for sure. He's also clearly a complete psycho.

Tom - Stickman has as many enemies as allies, if not more. Not heard the "Stickman got beaten up" story? Everyone else has...

Galt is cosily entrenched in a nice village in Issan, he's quite safe (or so it seems). Stick, meanwhile, is out in the open in Bangkok. Too many people know who he is (foolishly, he has collected his advertisment/protection money in person too many times).

Should be an interesting time until (if) Stickman returns. It will be even more telling to see what he's removed from his site when it returns (Google Cache will tell all).

HK James says:

I checked out the "Not" website when it was first mentioned on here, David, and I was seriously unimpressed. "One trick pony" doesn't begin to describe the lack of content or direction, and its design rivals the original in shiteness.

Referring to himself throughout as "The Galt" makes me wince, and his lack of writing skills makes me wonder why he thought being a webmaster was for him. But it's his lack of anything original to say which finally damns his site.

Verdict: truly uninspiring.

Smiler says:

Well it has to be said that the stick was heading for a fall and with the rose tinted spectacles of hindsight, even a kiwi could see it was going to happen. Didn't he mention something about envy and jealousy a couple of weeks ago?
I agree with everyone else - the Galt bloke is now living on borrowed time and as sure as I have a crack in my arse he will regret his spiteful, vindictive pursuit of stickman. You must be so proud of yourself Galt, you have achieved exactly.....what?

Saeb says:

Of course the problem is hypocrisy?
Stick affirms to be a legal beagle but in fact does he have three work permits?.
One for his school job. One for income from his site. And,one for his "Investigator" work.
Presumably he can produce tax returns for all income from all three jobs?.
Or not?.
And of course writing about naughtiness in official Thai circles is sure going to get you the heave.
One way or another - only do that from a distance.
Now of course it is pay back time for Mr Galt as he has taken pics from a website and published them on his own without permission or copyright.
Defamation suits fly around all the time here and he is the farang this time round.
I'd be on the way to the airport two days ago!.

Concerned for all.. says:

Any intelligent person has gotta be asking themselves "who's next?" Once the immature and talentless Galt, sorry.. I mean Keith Summers of AsianSignals.com.. (kinda crappy being outed isn't it moron?)

Where was I? Yes, after Keith Summers uses Mangosauce.com and other websites to carry out his petty revenge or hatred, then what's to stop him from doing the same to to Mangosauce.Com and whoever else? Nice commentary MangoSauce, but surely you don't think you're immune to unfounded allegations about exactly the same things do you? Let yourself be used, expect to get thrown away.

Something stinks in Nakhon Phanom tonight. If you read his site, Keith Summers (AKA GALT) has not only broke copyright laws, acted like a bully, misspelled countless words, but has also solicited harm to Stick's personal well being by "cleverly" (for him anyway) suggesting that someone would want to shoot or otherwise cause physical harm to Stick among many other things.

I have concern for the entire farang community. Mangosauce I'm sure is well intentioned, but posting stuff like this only encourages more of the same.

I encourage Keith Summers (AKA GALT) to take down his website immediately and perhaps reopen it at a later time with content more beneficial to the farang community in general. And I encourage Stick to reactivate his site immediately and continue service as usual. I see a dark future for Keith should he not see the wisdom of putting aside pettiness.

stan harris (tmwke) says:

I am afraid that people like Galt are starting to Rule the world.Is it the
time of The Anti Christ ?

observer says:

well it goes to show that anyone who works in a school setting daytime, then goes to gogo bars for "reviews" and does "investigations" is clearly not straight.

had his school known about his extra-curricular activities he would have been out of a job long time ago.

extra-curricular activities? where did i hear that before?

kloshboy says:

Even if this 'Galt' fellow has evidence implicating Stickman in genocide and crimes against humanity, he's still an utter knob-end for pursuing him in this fashion. Halt the Galt, don't sit stewing in his own soup. Them man needs sex. Or more sex. Or sex with a katoey -who knows? Just don't get on the boy's wavelength - it's a dark and lonely place.

Not even a Stickman fan.

barefeet girl says:

I think it very good that bad man stickman becomes known now for what he is a bad man not loyal and not the honest man. stickman will have problem at his work now certainly and his wife lose alot of face and stickman lose alot of face.

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John Galt says:

Hi, this the John Galt. In reality "Stickman silences Stickman". I started my site because Stickman was getting out of control and he tried to bash a friend's company in his column. He did this unfairly. I started 10 weeks ago with gentle pressure against him and he scoffed at me continuously throughout that entire time. Stickman feels pretty invincible. He's become cocky over the years. He practically gloats over his ability to scare people into HIV Test kits and bar girls investigations. SOME of his advertisers are clearly questionable (unregulated illegal businesses give rise to greatest profits to those businesses and therefore the greatest ad revenues). Stick is clearly not interested in the best information for his readership. I have not done anything illegal. I have only posted reflective information from Stickman's own site (and those pictures which are already on the web). Perhaps Stickman should be held accountable for his own crass remarks about his workplace and co-workers. Stickman has done quite a bit to upset other people. These other people are lining up to "put the nails in Stick's coffin" so to speak. I'm only the funneling point for the information and please be assured I make best efforts to determine if the information seems reasonable and correct before I write about it. Dear Mr Stick. If you want to keep your web site off-line - I'll not raise the issues any further. However, if you continue to think you are above the law working inside an illegal business in Thailand, I will turn over all the information that has come to me to several Thai news agencies in Bangkok. Given the current climate of recent coup, the sweeping emphasis on Visa changes, and the recent news feast of John Karr, I don't think you'll do very well. Don't you care about the people who submit articles to your site? Are you going to bring possible trouble to them as well by holding a large meeting of the writers this month? Take a vacation from the web business, keep Stickmanbangkok.com off-line and I think you'll be continuing on with your English teaching without incident. The alternatives may end up being up to the Thai authorities. Oh, and by the way WhoseYourDaddy -- people have had a few unkind words about you as well.

tracey emin says:

*opens popcorn*

zschokke says:

to john galt:

what u have done to stickman is ok. but in my mind not very original.

ayn rand and her systematology novel "atlas shrugged" come to mind.

"who is john galt?"

No John Galt says:

Hi I'm No John Galt and I want to set te record straight.

To start I take no responsibility for my actions, everything I'm doing is someone elses fault. Someone else is feeling my hate and being petty, that's no me in control of my body.

I'm really acting in the best interest of the expat community by carrying out my revenge and satisfying my hatred. I never did play well with others so you can't blame me at all.

After all, it's rather obvious that my website will get a lot more hits even by accident with the clever way I piggybacked on the work of someone else who spent years building their site and reputation and everyone knows that badmouthing others builds an audience.

More, if I had any real talent I'd be able to build my website without being vindictive and accusing others of things I can't prove, but this way is much easier so you can't blame me.. Right? Right? right?

I know all about karma, and I stand by waiting my turn until someone just like me decides to return the favour.

Until then, please know that Keith Summers (AKA John Galt) who runs AsianSignals.com (under several other names as well) doesn't at all apologise for his actions and could well stand to be scrutinized himself. In fact, help me move the magnifying glass to the right just a little bit.. yes that's it.. stand by for some heat..

Sincerely: No John Galt.

Off The Wall says:

Keith Summers (AKA John Galt) is OFF THE WALL! He doesn't know or remember the story of Humpty Dumpty very well.

Hello? says:

Mango Sauce? Are you going to allow John Galt to make such threats on your site?

I'm voting with my feet.. Goodbye MangoSauce..

uber dos says:

Way to go Galt ! Keep up the pressure and dont give up ! I for one am overjoyed to see that arrogant, ignorant, pompous, phony stickman called to the carpet. It is refreshing to see a guy like Galt that has the balls (and means and tech savy) to shed some light on this krooked kiwi named Stickman. I hope his site stays down forever. Stickmans co-workers must be emabarrased come Monday morning, to say the least. Stickman will be lucky if his contract is renewed and he doesnt face the wrath of more than a few families of the women whos pictures were posted online for all to laugh at. My guess is that the Stickman writers get together will be a wash due to this brouhaha.

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Codejunkie says:

This is our guy, right? http://www.asiansignals.com/EBayHtml/
General/Options1.htm

Jack Wow says:

"he tried to bash a friend's company in his column."

Christ, I wouldn't want to cross the Galt!

Sunglasses Ron says:

"Stick very cleverly mixes truth with fiction and, in the end, his readers are the suckers who pay the tab."

What exactly does this mean?

Give Stickman's readers some credit please. Just because Stickman says he doesn't like a particular bar doesn't mean that people will stop going there.

Deaner says:

How confident are you that you'll emerge from this unscathed John Galt?

Technically prostitution is illegal in LOS. I don't think the boys in brown buy the old "but everyone is doing it" excuse when they decide to make an example of someone, especially a farang.

moss says:

There is nothing to Galt, just jealousy plain and simple, evidenced in the lines of his submission here. Glaringly feeble attempts to parse words to support his molten-hot envy; and providing evidence the proverb "imitation is the purest form of flattery" is really a backlash of self-hatred for your very own self.

Galt, if you were back home you wouldn't last long, that's for sure...like a bulb glowing too brightly, I predict your light span will be short!

Slow Learner says:

Let us not forget that someone who would post stories on the glory of screwing virgins in Thailand has no moral high ground to stand on.

Galt appears to have set up his site with the primary intention of mailigning and defaming another webmaster.

Now he seeks more by outgin him. Given it was based on identifying where he works, the only conclusion I can draw is that he wants to cause harm for the old Stick.

I have never chosen to meet Stick. I have posted on and read his site.

Why do Farang attack Farang in a country where the only people who will ever really help you are other Farang.

You may disree, but I think Galt has stepped well over the line. This was the internet equivalent of sending pictures to one of your wives.

Do you want him to do the same to you, Dave? To your friends?

Like in Thailand is not always easy. It may feel like a game, but it is for real.

Why try to hurt someone else? Because they help guys check out the bar girls who try to rip them off?

Petty at best. Reprehensible at least.

A traitor to all of us who have fun in Thailand, but have to face the social disapproval of those who think that is a bad thing.

Slow Learner says:

It will take a few days, but I am also awaiting the response from your ISP.

It is against your user agreement to post a defamatory website. It is also against the law to register a website under an assumed name.

Wonder if they will follow through and yank your link?

Wonder if I went further and scanned the Bkk Post and sent examples of what you have written to Thai authorities who have gone after websites, if one of them might not want a bit of press out of you?

Galt, you crossed a bad line. No intention but to cause harm over your paranoid delusions.

Why can't you just beg to disagree and have your own website, with different views, if that is what you choose.

The Stick site has never had any inkling of trying to cause harm. Your interpretations seem paranoid at best.

Going to go after this one next?

Bill in San Diego says:

When Alexander Hamilton slandered Aaron Burr in the local press, costing him an election, he did'nt hide behind a pen name! And when Aaron Burr called him on it, they settled the matter like gentlemen! Those were the days when men were men, not cowards hiding in the shadows!

Foxy says:

First, kudos to MangoSauce for having the balls to post web links to both Galt's & Stick's sites - unlike another popular but totally pussy-whipped forum out there which won't even let its members discuss this topic. Now we all can make our own decisions on what's going down.

Clearly, there is some petty rivalry, and I don't really care who comes out on top. I'm no fan of Galt, there could not be a more boring and unfunny Thai website IMO. I enjoy Stick's site only for the non-bargirl info. Honest.

My Thai wife just had a look at Galt's banana girl page and feels he's very likely going to be in deep shit with certain Thai authorities, as the pictures were not just stolen, but altered and sprinkled with hardcore sexual innuendo. Galt could also end up being sued by the school and the individuals depicted. The eventual outcome being Galt may have to leave Thailand, maybe even forcibly. Galt keeps going on and on about how Stickman had it coming, well I wonder if Galt has anticipated the repercussions of what he's just done.

Casanundra says:

As they say in Asia... don't mess with someone else's rice bowl.

Enough is enough! Stop this tirade before some innocent bystander gets hurt in the melee as you two jostle with each other. If you two want to have a fight, go and find a boxing ring somewhere, charge us all 5000 baht for a ticket to come and watch and accept that the loser has to get out of dodge when it's all over.

Ding Ding Round 10

Casual Observer says:

This little spat strikes me as nothing more than a huge clash of egos. Every farang who has been in the country six months or more is an instant expert on Thailand - I meet them all the time. Most can barely speak a word of the local language and very few can read or write it but this still doesn't stop them being Thailand experts.

Stickman may "purport not to be an expert, or anything silly like that" on his web site but his smug comments week after week make it clear that he does regard himself as one of the leading farang authorities on Thailand living in the country.

John Galt has a massive ego, as can be seen in his writings, and furthermore claims superiority over Stickman due to the fact he has actually set up a manufacturing business in Thailand.

He emphasises the point that English teachers in Thailand are the lowest of the low; the farang whores of Thailand (as he puts it), and is clearly upset with someone from this profession having such a high profile on the web.

But he also has a point. Stickman does not tell the truth. Can anyone really believe that he felt disgusted about stepping into a filthy little country like Thailand when he first arrived some years ago? Coming from NZ, he knew exactly what to expect and it was exactly what he wanted. However, this is what he has written on his web page and it's clearly not true.

Also, the comments he makes occasionally about not understanding why he remains in Thailand and perhaps it's time to go elsewhere. Lies, again - he knows full well why he stays.

His hypocrisy is mind-boggling, trying on the one hand to demonstrate what a good boy he is but with an obsessive addiction to the seamy side of life in Thailand. For him to preach about one thing but make a living from the other is shameful.

I used to read Stickman before I moved to Thailand and found his analysis interesting and helpful. We even exchanged e-mails and he was always courteous unless I suggested some minor way to improve his site and then he would just ignore my e-mail. He was happy about being the expert and providing answers but never liked receiving suggestions.

But in recent years his site has gone downhill. The basic information he wrote many years ago just remains static and everything now is geared towards making money. Galt makes many a good point about this. Despite being a married man now and having a respectable job (I was quite impressed yesterday after looking at his school's web site), his continued obsession with the prostitution scene just doesn't add up.

Galt has been harsh but for a while now I have predicted that something was coming Stickman's way. He is perhaps fortunate that this vendetta is by an American and not a Thai, especially as everyone knows now what he looks like and where he works.

Anonymous says:

'the place is overrun by some of the angriest and most vindictive malcontents you could ever hope to meet'
while reading Galts latest ranting the above sprung to mind , but then i guess I read it,but I reckon it beats reading the shit dicer spouts and lets face it thats one of the things I love about this country, is the nutters it attracts

satyr says:

To Jack Wow re: "lying, cheating bargirls"...

Lying and cheating would be good descriptives of the majority of a bargirl's customers. You might say a bargirl and her customer are 2 sides of the same coin.

As for this little fracas, its a bad joke - small and pathetic. Maybe both Stickman and Galt should just disappear for good.

Sure, it is good to be wise to some of the tricks Stickman uses but to publish photos of innocent third parties on the internet without their consent and bringing them unwittingly into this puerile debate is irresponsible in the extreme. Making sexually charged remarks about these ladies is immature but you can get away with a lot of stupidity on the net, right?

As for bar girl investigations... anyone getting involved with a bar girl is an idiot to begin with and I have no sympathy for them or care how they are fleeced. If these clowns want their bar girls investigated then someone will take their money to do it, so why not Stickman? It doesn't matter how thorough a job is done, if the girl wants to see someone else that is exactly what she will do and she will probably get away with it. (Tilac I sorry but water buffalo sick. Need new water buffalo and you not give enough money to buy and I not want to ask you more money cos I love you too much... or something like that).

I have said many times to Thai friends: "farang come to this country and lose their minds".

David says:

Most of the comments here that rubbish Stickman and support John Galt are a crude attempt to manipulate this forum.

That darn cat, Vertigo KId, barefeet girl and uber dos all share the same IP address and are therefore almost certainly the same person.

Obviously, readers can draw their own conclusions.

Regards
David

Eniac says:

After playing one dirty trick after another, Galt's credibility is in tatters.

Farang Buffalo says:

This whole thing reminds me of Julius Caesar, in that story a minority started suggesting Caesar was up to no good and soon enough the majority believed it and Caesar was killed because he “ was too ambitious.” As if that justifies murdering someone

John Galt, whoever he is obviously has some beef with stick that goes well beyond his stated gripes. Only someone obsessed and emotionally damaged would make such an effort against another person. All his reasons to justify his actions are just smokescreens belying whatever it is that has truly got him upset. I don’t believe stickman has hurt anyone in Thailand. Thailand is a cut throat place and it takes a certain guile to even survive. Has he done anything at all that the majority aren’t doing? Even so if you don’t like his site why visit it? It’s like these people going on TV bitching about homosexual marriage than being outed they have been visiting a gay masseuse for a few years. It seems like the one who moans the loudest is the one who has the most to hide. I for one enjoy stick’s site. Sure I have strongly disagreed with him on many occasions but that’s what life’s about. Tolerance and compassion. I don’t need to agree with everything he says to see the seeds of goodness in his site. I personally was in a relationship with a Thai woman that ended badly. His site helped me see my folly and not repeat my mistakes.

Finally the posting on the co-workers shows that it’s John Galt who has crossed the line, and John Galt who has a reckless obsession with Stickman. Rather than over analyzing every stick article and bending it to your demented POV why not make a name for yourself on your own laurels and accomplishments? This whole thing stinks and I for one won’t cheer for Stick being silenced due to threats. If it happens to him it could happen to anyone, he should have his voice.

Graf says:

What's the big deal? Stickman is fair game. John Galt has really done nothing wrong. If Stick couldn't take the pressure, oh well. Nobody forced him to suspend his website. That was his choice.

Believe me, no authorities are going after anyone, nobodys getting their ass kicked over this, and certainly no law suits are getting filed. If Galt's website gets pulled because of this... well then he can start another one. That's his right. As far as somebody on here claiming he can be sued for defamation of character; yeah sure... that's "really" gonna happen.

Look the fact is, Stickman set himself up for this. After 3 years of being a devoted reader to his website, I'm no longer a big fan of it. He's rude, arrogent, thinks he knows it all, and quite frankly let his ego get way too inflated.

He has pissed on his fan base (who are the backbone of his website) one too many times. People go out of their way to write submissions, only to get Stickmans now famous line "No comments today". There are exeptions to that, because Stickman singles out his favorite submitters. But God forbid I ever have to read another Dana, Frank Viscay, or Marc Holt submission again.

His Investigation service has also come under fire lately. I know that there are some guys who used Sticks "questionable" services, and are not happy with the job Stickman did for them. Yet Stick fails to mention that part of his buisness on his website. Then he goes even further, and exploits his clients and boasts about his Investigation Services.

Now he is the exloited one. What comes around, goes around.

LDMA says:

I guess the "pussywhipped" site referred to earlier is my site Ajarn Forum. We have limited our coverage of this story as we feel we have a duty to protect teachers from this kind of exposure of their private, and professional life and that of other colleagues caught up in it.

Were this kind of stuff posted on our forum we would have imposed an immediate ban, but since it is coming from a separate site there's not much we can do but block the Adsense ads and lay down some ground rules.

For all the silliness we do allow on Ajarn we feel that Galt has crossed the line from a bit of harmless banter to a s stage where it is clear he is trying to harm him personally, professionally and financially. This is not something we intend to help perpetuate by allowing the URL publication of Galt's site or quoting of details, photos, URLS, or other allegations.

We are in the business of being a teachers information forum, and not a casual tittle tattle forum, and while there's a place for it here and elsewhere, count us out.

Stick has long supported Ajarn Forum, and we feel that his articles about teaching in Thailand are seminal. Stickman is purely about opinion. Who cares if he finds much of the nightlife distasteful. He's not the only one.

Dana says:

The temptation here that I have seen some flavor of in the posts is that this is a tempest in a teapot. The problem is that the teapot is Thailand where the Thais are not disposed to make fine distinctions between farangs. So the possibility exists that the baby (Stickman) will get thrown out with the bathwater (Galt).

So what is the lesson? In any country where you are a minority you have to operate under the radar. Failing that, do not make enemies. All minorities members should look to each other for support, not ego games.

When I worked on St. John in the Caribbean in the early 70's there were 300 white people in a population of 3000 natives. We were outnumbered 10 to 1. We made sure to get along. No one had to be told. Young or old, rich or poor, traditional or alternative lifestyles; we all understood instinctively that survival trumped all else and we looked after each other. I miss the days of community and support. I don't see it and feel it when I am in Thailand. Thailand just seems to be a big stupid knife fight.

Derukugi says:

I think Non-Stickman has stepped over a line. Until now, the rivalry was entertaining. Now, it is mean.

Now, it would fair game to publish Not-Stickmans photo and address too.
Let`s see how he likes that.

Roberto E. Lee says:

Oiy! My contention might simply be the following line from Galt's site: "I think this one would get my banana (sic) attention. Baby, can we let your hair down a little bit?"
To point out the criticism of Stickman is one deed, one done rightly by us whom worship the truth (according to ye ole' wife of Sticks). But to add sexual innuendos and commentary on people with whom you have no beef would ire Ms. Manners and all who purport to have some shred of decency.
Shame, shame, shame on you.

Stick fan says:

It's time to dig a bit more into Keith Summers...aka John Galt.

Go here to see his face....and be quick before he shuts it down hahahaha

http://www.asiansignals.com/EBayHtml/General/
Warranty13Months1.htm

Mr Lucky says:

I guess the days of internet anonymity are over. It was a powerful thing while it lasted. Though it allowed for a lot of bulls**t to be published, it also allowed those in the know to reveal scandalous truths without fear of repercussions. Lord help us if Galt carries through with his threat to bring this to the Thai media.

Like anyone with a grain of sense, I took Stick's weekly with an ounce of salt. Any publication has a slant so that's no big news.

The thing I will miss is the readers' submissions. That was the coolest part of the site. There was a lot of cr*p but many many gems. Not likely that such a gathering will happen again soon. Dana will find a new whipping post, but I'll probably never find out whether Pothole Research finally found his perfect pothole. And whatever happened to Cent? That guy was the definition of underrated genius (kind of like his idol, Frank Zappa).

If this is the beginning of a trend, the internet is set to become a much more boring place. It's a glass house and Galt just threw the first rock.

No need to despise him, though. From what I've read of his stuff, he is shockingly innocent of the efficiency of Thailand's grapevine (faster than its internet connections) and the swiftness of repercussions (faster than a bargirl's mood swing). In the immortal words of Mr T, "I pity da fool."

Tom says:

If you dig deep enough you can uncover questionable things that all of us have done. Galt is continually clutching at straws with his horrible, ugly style of writing that takes entire paragraphs to say absolutely nothing.

So what if Stick has done this or that, haven't we all? Galt is hell bent on bringing Stick down... and for what? What are we treated with on Galt's site? Useless rantings and his own personal complaints that it's costing him more to get laid from one year to the next.

Mo says:

Mr Lucky, Cent is posting on his own site now, www.ThailandStories.com

Garee says:

Can this be the self=absorbed troublemaker. Keith at AsianSignals.com. Maybe his work permit isn't perfect either?
www.asiansignals.com/EbayHtml/General/
Options1.htm

codejunkie says:

The silly little cunt forgot to delete some of his AsianSignal pages with his picture on it (the ones that were mentioned earlier). He's taken them offline but too late of course. They will be posted soon enough. Fair is fair. Keep digging by the way, this dumbass is all over the internet.

Paul says:

I was excited when Mr Galts site came out- It's always good to have the other side... But upon reading his material, it took me about 30 seconds to realise that he is retarded and very childish.

If he was intelligent, he would expose stickman's scams and whatever else he means to articulate in a decent, respectable fashion.

Posting his personal details is fucking dumb. It will cause unnecessary harm to stick and could well ruin his life....

I'm not amused by this, and hope stick can put his life together, even if he is the scammer that Galt says he is.

If I were galt i would be on my way to suwanapoom NOW.

Foxy says:

Ajarn, I was not referring to your site as "pussy-whipped". Sorry, in fact I'm not even familiar with your site. The site I was referring to was one where you might go to get Thailand visa information. The draconian moderators at that site have got major issues with discussions, or even references to, certain topics. In light of what's going down they might be able to claim their policy is right. But regardless, it bugs the hell out of me to belong to a forum where you have to watch every word you type.

Just one last comment. I previously spent over 10 years in Taiwan, and just over a year and a half in Bangkok now. I still get over to Taiwan every couple months. The expat (specifically the professional, non-english teaching expat) communities in these two countries could not be any more different. I'm not referring to internet spats, but the people in general. Foreigners here rarely acknowledge one another when they pass in public places, and those I've met seem constantly anxious or paranoid about knowing new expats. Expats in Taiwan are generally extremely friendly and in well connected circles - literally everyone knows everyone. Perhaps Thailand attracts a different breed of expat, but I have to say I'm not comfortable dealing with them here. Their paranoia is rubbing off on me.

I have absolutely no feelings one way or the other about Galt or Stick, but Galt seems to have lost the plot and for his own sanity I'd recommend he just let this issue go and move on with his life.

Jack Wow says:

David wrote:
The Stickman site is down and offline for the time being. It is hoped that it will return soon...

This gives the impression Stickman isn't too sure if he will return at all.

What it actually says is:
The Stickman site is down and offline for a short period. It will return soon.

[The message has obviously been changed since yesterday - David]

It will return soon, I'm sure - probably not before Keith Summers (www.asiansignals.com/EbayHtml/General/
Options1.htm - bastard pulled it before I could see him) shuts down Notstickman.

This is Stickman inviting his readers for a get together:
http://www.aboutus.org/StickManBangkok.com

Can we expect a similar invitation from Notstickman?
Come on, Keith, I'm sure there's a lot of people who would like to meet you.

Saeb says:

Be nice to know the real reason behind the whole cirus.
A very public war between foreigners here - eh, what?.
These things in Thailand rapidly become unstoppable and someone gets seriously hurt - or deaded.

Best they have a beer and agree their differences.

And justice for all says:

hmmm was looking for a new part for my motorbike and look what I came across. Scroll down a little and hey presto !Surely this cant be a photo of the infamous Mr Keith can it ?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/
5-Mini-Signals-Kawasaki-KLR-250-600-650-
KLR650-KLR600_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ
categoryZ35598QQihZ016QQitem
Z260046246818QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Hi Keith says:

How about an address? Publicaly avaiable information too.

Galt, John NotStickmanBangkok@gmail.com
1 18/4 Beach Road
Chonburi, A Banglamong 20260
Thailand
5035905

Maybe somebody can check to see if that is real, maybe pay him a vist and see if the face matches ;)

Andy says:

Have to agree with a few of the posters above; there is a real "eat or be eaten" attitude in expat circles in LOS. Not a very healthy attitude in any ethnic minority's way of living a life a long way from home.
Fighting farangs are a massive source of amusement to the locals, btw. The cops will stand around laughing and probably take bets before carting both parties off to the cop-shop.

No John Galt says:

THE PUSSY REMOVED THE LISTING.
ANYONE SAVE IT?

Mr Lucky says:

Wrong to call this a "fight" or "war". Fights and wars involve two sides attacking. As far as I can see it, it's just Galt attacking in highly personal ways, while Stick has wisely withdrawn from the arena.

Smacks more of terrorism....

bemused says:

Wonder what size concrete boots Galt takes?

Graf says:

Whoever keeps posting these BOGUS links that claim to show Galt's image needs to stop. This thing is between John Galt and Stickman. John Galt did this on his OWN website. He actually went out of his way to defend his own cause.

These pathetic attempts to defend Stickman need to stop. Your posting these links on 'someone else's' website. Get a life. Not one of these links has worked. We still have no clue what Galt looks like. You wanna bash John Galt... then start your own website. Don't do it on Mango Sauce

Let Stickman defend himself and fight his own battle. Believe me, I'm pretty sure that Stickman would never go out of his way to defend you or any of his readers. He's proven that over and over and over. Stickman cares only about himself.

TANAI KWAI says:

Given the real-time cat-and-mouse being played with all existing pics of Keith Summers (despite the attempt to throw off the scent with the message at AsianSignals.com directed at Mango Sauce readers) there seems little doubt that this guy is Galt. Could someone kindly explain whether it was cyber-sleuthing that generated this nugget of info -- or did "Concerned for All" just rat him out based on personal knowledge?

There appears to be a missing link (and for once I'm not talking about the hirsute Dana).

(?)

satyr says:

I don't read Stickman's site but...

Assuming these charges of arrogance, etc. are true, I say "so what?" Stop reading it, I am sure you can find other things to do with your life.

Upset by "sneaky" advertising techniques? Are you kidding me? In this day and age of guerilla marketing and numerous other underhanded sales techniques that you get bombarded with on a daily basis, you are going to get put out by Stickman's methods? Water off a duck's back, I say.

Can anyone figure out why a bar or restaurant catering to farang and needing to boost its popularity would pay a website frequented by farang for advertising? I beats me! I just cannot fathom this train of thought. Its illogical!!! (From memory, Galt was upset about this sort of thing on his site or, at least, Stickman lumping such places together with popular joints).

In short, is Stickman worth all this? Hell, is this stupid little spat worth this post?

And Justice for all says:

I like to collect pictures off the internet so I have saved a copy of Mr Keiths lovely photo onto my computer. I am sure it will come in handy and I am a sharing and caring kind of guy so I wont mind sending it over to anyone who might like it too.

No John Galt says:

Doh! The links aren't bogus. I No John Galt can confirm this is really me. I was just too fucking stupid to realise that once I started this crap others could do the same to me. Doh!

No worries, I No John Galt (Keith Summers) will get even with the world who is against me because I AM NOT THE TWIT I appear to be.. And it's not my fault either, I bear no responsibility for my own actions.

Did anyone notice the REAL NO JOHN GALT can spell? The non-real john galt needs to buy a dictionary..

marklatham says:

John Galt is a cunt.

codejunkie says:

What do you mean these links don't work? (Some of these people are REALLY stupid :-))
Copy this link into the address bar of your browser and make sure it's not broken off somewhere when you copy it.
http://www.asiansignals.com/EBayHtml/General/Options1.htm

Chico says:

I personally couldnt care less about Galts obsession with Stick. Seems like a case of pure jealously.. Whatever, if he chooses to spend his time in a bitter vendetta.

I would say that posting degrading pictures of his co-workers is a rather niave thing to do. There are laws that protect Thais against this sort of stuff. Also you never know who their connections are. I hope for Galt that the Thais dont see this, for I dont think it will be Stickman they'll be pursuing.

Its way low bringing other people into this childish conflict. Definately crossing the line.

No John Galt says:

Yes, the links work and that is ME, the one who needs Propecia..

sniffer says:

As Borges said in a slightly different context, it's like watching two bald men fighting over a comb

Justice For All says:

Keith Summers has crossed the line,big time. Hes disturbed someones life,their peace of mind,for petty and personal reasons. Methinks he will reap what he sows, manyfold. Wouldnt like to be in his shoes! What a pathetic, twisted and bitter individual. When the temporary glow of infamy has subsided, he will live to regret his spitefulness for many years to come.

Not A Galt Fan says:

When Galt started he had the potential to be an alternative voice but any hope of that quickly faded.

In a short space of time he turned up the heat and turned up the heat and now it looks like he turned it up so much that the he finds himself surrounded by that very heat.

What he has done is fundamentally wrong and as has been raised elsewhere on the net today he has broken numerous laws.

There is only one way this situation can end and that is for him to stop his site. I guess he doesn't want to stay in Thailand any more?

Idontlikebullies says:

John Galt has posted photographs of innocent Thai women on his website in a manner that I believe is offensive and derogatory to both the women in the photos and Thai women in general.

A point I have made in my report to ict.cyberclean.org

Oh and I made a pfd copy of the web page which I have emailed to ict.cyberclean.org - just to be sure that there is no denial of the facts.

Have a nice day John Galt, I hope your visas, passports and work permit are in order.

Lecter says:

Let's hope it all sorts out.
There are some amazing dickheads out there.

woo hoo says:

what's a pfd copy?

what a wanker,,, says:

I am sure Keith Summers in Nakhom Pratom will be having a visitor. Dont think you can do e-bay without a thai import export licence. do you??

Stick fan says:

Lecter...yes there are!!!...especially webmasters. It's called delusions of granduer.

Kudnepasadoble says:

Wank,wank...money in the Bank.

eh,David?.

deranged says:

Just gancing through his site, it's clear Galt is obsessed with Stickman. He seems to know every detail about him.... Galt, you are a deranged and twisted individual. Get help. Celebrities have stalkers... Stickman has Galt.

Personally, I thought the reader's submissions were the best thing about Stickman's site, and I learnt a lot from them, in spite of living in Thailand for a couple of years. It'd be a shame to see that disappear.

Statler & Waldorf says:

Those who plot the destruction of others often perish in the attempt.

canipsi says:

just saw this on galts webite, under the submission- farangs above the law;

" However, on the flip side, several years ago I submitted a very small piece to Stick myself about what occurred in a classroom full of girls at a school. I was invited in as a guest. I spoke with them from the front of the room, and they asked me questions. What I wrote something that was not comfortable with Stick. He wrote back and said that even through he liked the piece, he didn't want anyone to possibility get the idea that he might be promoting teen age sex. These 17 through 19 year old girls were asking me about my marital status, and if had any kids or wanted kids. The most interesting part of the story was how they responded to my answers, but I didn't feel it was inappropriate or suggestive. It's was a very typical conversation for girls in the country. But, the piece must have titillated the Stick and he feared giving the wrong impression to the world.... So, ok, no big deal. (shoulder shrug and rolling eyes, tongue in cheek)"

could having his submission to sticks site refused be the real reason for this petty and vindictive smear campaign?

BigDUSA says:

It's one thing to go after Stick for what he writes but it's way over the line to 'out' him and post photo's of his co-workers and try and get him fired. Now Galt has posted on www.mangosauce.com that he's going to report Stick for work permit and tax issues to the Thai government and try and get him expelled from LOS.

Galt sets himself up for future retribution when he goes after a guy's rice bowl. Not a good idea.

I posted the above on www.bkktonite.com

woo hoo says:

Nah, I think the real reason will be made known soon.

Methinks Stick will be leaving Thailand soon...

mpd268 says:

As a brit I must say that I read stickmans site as research as when my friends told me about thailand it sounded 'too good to be true'
Even though i liked galts page as a new view and a new perspective, I don't like the harsh reality of 'one up man ship'
Back in blighty I follow news on LOS with interest, awaiting for the funds for the next outing....so all i can say from someone who owes alot to Stick for getting me out there.....Thanks. But for god sake boys sort it out and leave the mud slinging to the kids!!!

Idontlikebullies says:

I'm not at all sure what Stickman's plans are regarding future moves.

But it is to be sure that Galt has set himself up for a move of his own.

When you throw shit, its always a good idea to check which way the wind is blowing.

hairbear says:

the truth is this town is full bitches. every day i have to be educated by some asshole with their 'bangkok rules' that are amde up on the spot. i love bars and drinking, but after six months in this town, the last thing i want to hear is some dumb farung telling me the history of shite. boozing at home is a sign of an alcoholic? bring it on

Scottie says:

I read Stick's site every week and have enjoyed many articles re-LOS.His readers submissions gave me a lot of info.Shame such a stupid person tries to spoil things.Hope all returns to near normal

Chancy says:

I think most of the posters here need to relax a bit. I feel for Stickman, I really do, but it has been a time bomb. As a teacher in Thailand, I am very concerned about the fallout from it going to the media that a farang teacher at a very respected Bangkok school is running a top sex guide to Thailand. I am embarrassed to have Stickman be associated with my profession, no matter how I feel about Stickman.

woo hoo says:

Ah, but Stickman isnt mongering no more!

Or will this be Galt's "November Surprise"?

*knowing wink*

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

you cretin Chancy.

l doubt another story about a pervo English teacher will matter much in a country that is hardly taken at any value other than a complete joke for a country by the rest of the world following the "coup de TART" fiasco.

Thaxo

PS Still great boxes mind you.

mad_dog says:

Stickman's site had some very very dodgy content especially in the readers' contributions section. His dual role as teacher and lead whore monger was untenable. Stickman should have figured this out for himself. Now another sleaze ball has come along and made the decision for him.

Indeed says:

Galt is just begging for trouble. Search Google for 'stickman' and you will see Galt's paid for "Find the banana girl" ad.

If he's not careful he will be playing the game himself with his fellow inmates.

Or something else......

hmmm says:

me thinks galt is stick and stick is galt. Perhaps stick is leaving Thailand for NZ?

Perhaps he wanted to play a joke on all of us?

FYI says:

Stick's site is down but a large section has been archived. Up to 1 april 2005. the whole content is included. This doesn't bode well for the man.

Idontlikebullies says:

Well while I'm certain that Stick is not Galt, I'd not be at all surprised if more than a few of the pro Galt posters here are not Galt himself.

We could hardly expect better of an internet stalker who makes threats from the anonimity he thinks he has through his website.

Time will tell.

Chuck Woww says:

"I like to collect pictures off the internet so I have saved a copy of Mr Keiths lovely photo onto my computer. I am sure it will come in handy and I am a sharing and caring kind of guy so I wont mind sending it over to anyone who might like it too."

Posted by And Justice for all | November 6, 2006 3:46 PM

Sure send me a copy. Thanks.

chuckwoww@yahoo.com

Jack Wow says:

This piece makes me cringe.

http://www.notstickmanbangkok.com/Weekly2006/
WhenLessIsMore.htm

"The great Galt scores!" He thinks he's cassanova because he can pull outside the Nana Plaza Hotel.

And Keith, if you do carry on with the site, for christ sake get a proofreader.

Siam Sam says:

Keith summers, eh? And I hear he has something to do with Living Dolls Pattaya. I wonder whether Stick will have some motorcycle taxi guys paying him a visit soon.

bkkred says:

Have to admit I've read the stick site for years and enjoyed. The readers submissions have been a goldmine.
One thing to note is that Galt damns the the site for bending to commercial pressures and then in a recent column has a happy and approving tour of Tonys new disco down Pattaya way.....bit of a plug for his friend there.But no he would never do anything like that.Hes doing it for the good of society.
In another section he starts to promote his buddys tour company...again fair reader he would never do that for the sake of something as low as commercial gain as he speedily points out.Hes doing it to support one legged widows and beggers.
The mans obviously a psycopath.I certainly dont agree with all stickmans opinions but i think I can probably make up my own mind whether this bar or that go go is up to par.He just gives his opinions,its written in the opening blurb.Its a forum where there are a ton of opinions.
The fact that this guy has taken time to set up a site, badly designed and boring though it may be ,to wreck (lets be honest about it) his reputation seems extra ordinarily extreme.The way its written points to a deranged mind.
Personally I think there arent going to be any lawsuites from the man himself BUT if the school which is an upmarket Thai establishment sees its staff overlayed with bananas under the banner whos the banana girl....well things may be different.Or am I just being paranoid?
Hold on theres someone at the door.....

No John Galt says:

Dear Fans;

My gosh guys, I was just trying to do good things and help all you stupid people out who weren't aware that webmasters sometimes support their advertisers. I'm doing this because you guys are all morons who aren't capable of thinking for yourselves.

Why the hard time then? I've already told you I'm not responsible for my own actions, that everything I do is legal and above board. At least if you ignore copyright laws, the rules of my ISP, work permit stipulations, Thailand export laws and internet regulations, and sleeping with very young girls. (boys too but that's a big secret I hope doesn't get exposed)

Come on guys, talking young virgins out of their cherry for a few baht is a good thing right? After all, every young young girl needs an old balding fart like myself to madquerade as their night in balding armor.. And if they get HIV from me that I might have picked up outside Nana Plaza in that fun parking lot.. then that isn't my fault either and I bear no responsibility.

Please please, don't put up posters of my name and picture in my village/town with some select samples from my site translated in Thai.. they might learn what I'm really about. After all, 10,000 flyers printed up is rather cheap.. and there's no shortage of cheap labour to staple them up all over town, the stores, bars, schools, amphur, police station..

Someone asked me rather nicely to take my site down, but because it's such a high quality site that I've worked on for weeks now (so much effort you know, I even orderd a dictionary) that serves the public good, embarrasses innocent young professional women with sexual inuendos, slanders fellow farangs like you and me, threatens their lives and livelihood, and so many other productive things.. I've (stupidly) decided to stand my ground.. gee, I hope someone doesn't put me in the ground..

If you'd really like me to take my site down and slink back down the hole I crawled out of.. then just tell me.. I'm a perceptive guy and won't need to be hit over the head with it.. too many times. I'll probably tell you all to go take a flying fuck of a leap for your effort.. but that's just my personality. You'll only pry my site from my cold dead fingers...

Good night for now, I'm going to look for some more garbage in parking lots.. it's the only way I can get laid..

Not Sincerely:

No John Galt (aka Keith Summers)

Maudib says:

As others have stated, when you mess with some else's rice bowl, you're going to get what's coming to you...

I've been an avid reader of Stick's site for quite some time... I enjoy the reader submissions purely for entertainment value and some insight into traveller's experiences in LOS... Most people are savy enough to read between the lines and recognize the difference between entertainment & infotainment... Keith obviously does not...

Now that Keith has dropped the bomb on Stick, I no longer have my daily LOS entertainment... boohoo... Posting someones place of work & links to photos on the net is definitely taboo and will likely lead to loss of face, job and livelyhood for Stick... Not to mention many of the bar girls Stick investigated are probably out for blood right now...

Keith should become acutely aware of two guys on a motorcycle where ever the travels from now on...

Touche motherfucker...

Slow Learner says:

I must say, I enjoy Not Galt more than Galt, by far.

Does that mean life would be more fun without Galt? I think so.

I enjoy reading Stick's site, whether I agree or diagree with content (not that I care, it is only entertainment).

I do not enjoy Galt's site.

Unfortunately, right now I cannot read Stick. I do not want to read Galt.

Oh well, at least I have Mango Suace and Thailandstories.com. I enjoy them as well.

JohnDoe Soi 4 says:

No John Galt (aka Keith Summers) is he the same John Galt ?

Anyway to Keith of Ebay fame "Asiancycle" .

You make some very nice bike parts , if they are your own tooling you have spend a ton of baht on them ,

Why are you risking this good business throwing mud at Stick ?
And if you say its because he insulted your friends , are your friends going to bail you out of jail ?

You seem to enjoy the spotlight , since most people do not put their photos on their ebay listings ,

I hope you can admit this has gone too far and back off,

Peace

fountainhead says:

i would like to thank mangosauce.com for allowing people to use URLs in their posts.

one thing I always hated about Stick's website is that he'd reference a site like BKK chat or thailand friends, but never publish the URL, and i'd have to go searching for it. i wrote Stick about this and he
was kind enough to respond, bluntly but honestly: "Th omission of URLs is explained simply - I am trying to get some of these sites to advertise with me and do not want to give them free advertising."

but don't get me wrong, i loved stick's website.

i even enjoyed galt's website. however, galt has done a terrible thing here, and probably has silenced both Stick and himself (your headline for this topic, "Galt silences Stickman, while accurate, is probably an ego-booster for Galt).

as i said on pattayatalk.com:

pretty interesting, in a "i can't help but look at the car accident on the side of the road" kind of way.

i just don't see anything good coming out of this...

stick is probably cleaning up his site, reviewing every word he's ever written to make sure it won't come back and bite him. but it doesn't matter (and if it did, google has it cached anyway). the damage is
done, certain thais will be embarassed, and both Stick and Galt will have to live their lives constantly looking over their shoulders while in LOS, and therefore will likely leave.

i guess one option for Stick is to quit teaching and continue with his nightlife website, this time out in the open. but i can't see him being able to continue teaching in thailand.

as for Galt, he's personna non grata... if i were him i'd get the fuck outta LOS asap.

finally, i've used fountainhead and johngalt as my internet names in forums for 9 years now. please don't confuse me with galt, simply because we both like the same author. i'm not him, and i'll likely
stop using the johngalt alias now.

Red Ross says:

Can I assume that this is Galt then...?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=260044310677&category=35598

John Galt says:

You guys are way off course. You’re dreaming. The Galt is not going to jail for anything because the Galt follows the rules. The Thais would laugh at what I put up on the web site. You won’t understand until you get into their heads. (the banana part)

BTW - I looked over this "Keith / AsianCycle" guy. I don't think he is knocking down the girls like he says he is. This must not be the Galt.... But, maybe it is. Hum, maybe he had a hair transplant? If I’m going to take on this persona I sure hope he is as least good with the ladies in bed.

Bradley says:

Scroll down to the bottom to see the plastic injection mold machine.

http://www.notstickmanbangkok.com/Weekly2006/
RecommendationsAndReferrals.htm

Here is the same picture of the same plastic injection mold machine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ninja-EX250-
Turn-Signals-Pod-Kit-CLEAR-Kawasaki-

Here is a picture of Kieth
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=260044310677

Is John Gault smart enough to place a picture of the plastic molding machine on his notstickmanbangkok site to misdirect his readers or is he dumb enough to leave a trail to his real identity?

Anonymous says:

All this taking pages down and changing them is silly - there are MANY archives out there including the ubiquitous google cache that make note of old versions of pages.

R Clifton says:

You see this type of expat spat all too often in LOS. I was never a fan of Stick and liked Gaults first postings. Now this. The typical dumb and meanspiritedness that permeates all too much of Thai Expatistan.

An old maxim states, ask yourself would I associate with an individual back in my own country? If no is the answer don't. It can be extended to websites as well. I can only hope that Gault or whatever his name is gets his large lump of excrement he has so richly earned.

Doug says:

Took a look at the school site. Not too hard to pick out Stickman (least educated of the lot). Considering where he works I have to believe he'll lose his job once they find out.

It makes no difference if he changes the content of his website, knowing that he was conducting "bargirl investigations" will no doubt end his employment at the school.

Confucius says:

Before you embark on a journey of revenge, dig two graves.

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

everyone knows l ain't a fan of BS'ing anti English tossers like stickman, and I for one will glady knock out his front teeth if ever he cuts across my path {its a micro world}

But at end of the day a "GRASS" is a "GRASS" no matter how you butter it up. And that makes sticky {even though he's a massive liar} the lessor of 2 evils.

"TAP TAP" is what we say to a Grass down Ulster way.

Thaxo.

No John Galt says:

Dear Subjects;

If you infidels were able to think for yourselves then it wouldn't be necessary to think for you! This is your fault!

Looking over my Kingdom all I can see are my moronic subjects being misled by the Great Stick Wizard Man. He turns your minds to mush with his "opinions" and your blindly follow him and I suspect you adore him as well. I THE GREAT NO JOHN GALT (aka Keith Summers) AM INSANELY JEALOUS OF THE GREAT STICK WIZARD MAN!!!

So, can you simple minded people see why I built my website now? Can you see how I had to find anyway to attack this "Stick Man" and try to make you like me instead?

Yes it's true, I have no self esteem and no talent. The only thing that makes me feel important and loved.. is to attack others and try to destroy them! I have no talent of my own so I suck like a fat leach to the great Wizard STICK MAN's site to compensate.

Do you know how many stupid subjects in my kingdom do a search for STICK MAN and find my site instead? Yep, nearly all of them. If these stupid subjects didn't click on me by accident, then I'd get no clicks at all! I'd be CLICKLESS IN Isaan..

Of course this is why I spend so much time trying to impress very young uneducated virgins, it makes me feel superiour to them when I steal their virginity! Man oh man, when I "outwit" a uneducatd Isaan virgin who isn't even old enough to drive a motorbike.. it makes me feel soooo goood! Do you know what I mean? Women with smarts don't like me, heck I even need to PAY THE VERY YOUNG UNEDUCATED VIRGINS TO HAVE SEX WITH ME, but the pay isn't important.. it's the conquest! It takes a REAL JOHN GALT MAN to nail an uneducated VERY YOUNG VIRGIN!

AND NO, it's not illegal to pay young virgins for sex! Remember, I'm not responsible for my actions! So please please do not put flyers up all over the places I'm known to go telling people it's illegal for me to pay for sex with underage girls! They need the money after all and you would only be hurting them.. Hey, if no one knows then no one gets hurt right? Boys too. Young boys are more expensive.. Michael Jackson would be so jealous of me!!! No flyers ok? THANK YOU, much appreciated.

ANd please.. Don't report me to the ebay folks for ripping you off.. and for breaking all their rules. AND PLEASE PLEASE don't buy some cheap thing just to give me negative feedback and ruin my sellers rating. My sellers rating is something I actually worked hard to build up, like Stick's reputation and website for instance.. So please don't hurt me there..

AND HEY, ya you! Yes you asked me nicely to take my crappy site down. But in my defense I'm too fucking stupid to listen. I'm too fucking stupid to realise how badly many soldiers from the GREAT STICK MAN WIZARD's ARMY can hurt me. He has soldiers deployed in Thailand, in America, NEAR MY FAMILY WHO HAVE NEVER READ MY SITE OR KNOW WHAT I SPEND ALL MY TIME DOING, and in other countries. STICK MAN WIZARD MAN is an imperialist!

Please, I'm just too fucking stupid to realise what I've done.

Until next time my loyal (and stupid) subjects.. I will continue to think for you and act in your behalf, but I bear no responsibility for my actions.. including deflowering young uneducated virgins (and boys).

Unsincerely Cheers (isn't CHEERS a place where everybody knows my name?)

NO JOHN GALT (aka Keith Summers)

Codejunkie says:

There's no doubt about John Galt's identity (Keith Summers). NotStickmanBangkok.com is hosted on the same server as AsianSignals.com. The hosting company is WebHost4Life.com, server location = San Pedro, California. Contact information at http://www.webhost4life.com/contactus.asp.
More to follow...

Chris in Singapore says:

"His dual role as teacher and lead whore monger was untenable. Stickman should have figured this out for himself." this is what I have been thinking for a while, too, before this thing even exploded. On one hand Stick is trying to 'distance' himself from the nightlife scene, and put on airs of professionalism ('the site is always up by Sunday 8 PM...' come on this is a site about prostitutes, not Citibank.com!), on the other hand, he does bargirl investigations and his readers submissions still have a healthy amount of sex contents. In this circumstance, Stick cannot realistically pretend to be offering highbrow cultural commentary, or to remove himself from what is written therein in any way. Unfortunately from him, most of his readership (and ad revenue) is generated by the naughty contents, so he has to have that in there in order to generate any $$$ to make the site worth his time.

By mixing workplace innuendo with heavy duty sex contents Stick appears to show that he is not really taking his job very seriously. In any country this was going to get him in trouble sooner or later. In his place, as soon as I got settled (married and pursuing some kind of professional career) and got over the initial Thailand shock, I would have kept two separate sites, one with legit stuff, Ask the Sticks, Working in Thailand, etc, and another one, completely and untraceably anonymous for the more racy stuff. With all due respect, if I was a Thai parent I would not be very happy to read Stickman as the handywork of a teacher of my kids.

The Skipper says:

I understand that one of those teachers has very infuential relatives with the Police Dept. Ooops.

notstickmantoo says:

Completed items list on ebay.
Is this income being reported Mr. Summers?
http://motors.search-completed.ebay.com/search/
search.dll?sofocus=so&sbrftog=1&from=R10
&satitle=&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&fmmk=&
fmmd=&fylo=&fyhi=&mppfqy=&sadis=200&
fpos=93924&fis=2&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&
saprchi=&seller=1&sass=asiancycle&
fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1&coaction=compare&
copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

Justice for All says:

Stick provides a wonderful platform for information and opinion.Coming from the Uk,I've always checked his site for news,reader submissions and happenings.And,like others,I dont feel obliged to agree with everything or anything he writes.But I'm glad its there,glad its free,and I respect the man.He has answered my emails promptly and politely,and for that I thank him.

But for some wannabe insignificant balding opportunist like Summers to destroy this guys job,domicile and life is sick! Summers is nothing to me,just another business type operating out of a low-cost economy to line his pockets.But to gloat about taking away a mans livlihood is the lowest of the low.Its wrong,its nasty,and now its known.You arent John Galt,you are Keith Summers,nothing special,but now you have messed with a mans real life for your own perverse agenda.And you continue to make threats,even proud of what you are doing! Wake up to what you are doing,what you have become!You might be brave on your keyboard,a digital warrior,but do you really know where you have taken this stupid game of yours? Stop before its too late,Stick has many friends,and thousands of supporters who dont like what you are doing.

Summers,you will be reading this.Take your garbage site down,apologise to those you owe it too,and watch your back.Ive seen your picture,you are nothing,so wrapped up in your insignificant self-importance you cant even see the bigger picture.

Theres a time to hold 'em,and a time to fold 'em.

Nows the time to fold,little man.

Casual Observer says:

Did anyone notice the "cutting edge photograph" Keith has of the new airport on his web site in his 'Dangers of Under Exposure' piece? He makes the comment, "If I could read Thai I might be able to tell what the note inside the picture says ..."

Well, actually Keith, you couldn't. After five years in the country, not only can Keith not read Thai, he can't even recognise Thai. It's not Thai. Some of the characters are similar but backwards which makes me think the negative was upside down when the photo was developed. At least three characters are clearly not Thai. Maybe it's written in the Laos language?

Nonetheless, his appalling ignorance doesn't stop him from telling others 'this is how it is' in Thailand. Being an American, that figures.

His 'Lowering the Cost of Fun' piece is a classic. As we Brits might say, "Pass the sickbag, Alice."

hey there says:

i ask myself what is your evidence that this john galt is the same as the keith from the ebay nick asiancycle.

so i check the pictures on both webpages. you can extract information what kind of camera was in use and what kind of software to alternate the pictures. last one on both Adobe Photoshop CS Windows. for the camera for older pictures is was a 'sony cybershot' (you can extract even the File change date and time) but for the newer ones on ebay same as on galt site is is the camera: SONY DSC-F828.

so okay both of them using the same camera, could still be a coincidence.

but remember there are few pictures on the galt site where he is using some arrows to point out something specific.
like on this photo http://www.notstickmanbangkok.com/Weekly2006/
Suvarnabhumi/InternalLarge.jpg

an other case was nana parking lot with freelancers, ladyboys and baby elefant, remember?

now have a look on ebay this auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&item=260049243495

have here a look on the picture with that arrow http://www.asiansignals.com/ebayimages/
ShortStalk/ArrowMini/Chrome/SetScrewChrome.jpg

both using the same style arrow, but this is not all. there is an other photoshop trick you find on ebay same as galt page.

look at the galt logo
http://www.notstickmanbangkok.com/images/
JGT_Logo3.jpg

round shape corners and a small shadow behind, you will find this kind also on ebay like here http://www.asiancycle.com/AC/Signals/LED/
MidRange/Arrow/Chrome/Grommet2.jpg

i guess that is much more then a simple coincidence.
also these asiancycle keith was very quick aware where all the website traffic and refer was coming from. if you would be not involved you wouldn't take notice. but okay may someone send an email. but the style of picture change and the camera in use. i guess is galt is really the same as kieth from asiancycle.

for you can not handle the links and think they are broken are the pictures deleted just copy and paste the link and look on close the empty space where was some kind of line break or automatic word wrapping.

galt was also telling a story of stickman maybe was selling copy software or dvds. where he should have done that - yes on ebay. for me is highly likley that there is maybe one ebay seller bitching his other business rival

Mr Lucky says:

I still haven't heard from "Concerned For All", how he managed to link Galt with Summers. He posted this revelation then disappeared (or changed his name).

Now it seems accepted as fact and the swift reaction on the AsianBike site would seem to support it. This rumor has bled over onto other forums as well, but the only evidence I have seen is "Concerned For All says so."

logologo says:

Casual Observer wrote:
>"Did anyone notice the "cutting edge photograph" Keith has of the new airport on his web site in his 'Dangers of Under Exposure' piece? He makes the comment, "If I could read Thai I might be able to tell what the note inside the picture says ..."

its "bangkokbob.net" backwards just in some kind of lookalike thai latin letters
want do for yourself
http://www.weygandt.de/aw_siam.htm

is very fun, cause thai people even very good at english can not read it, i guess some barrier in the brain cause looks so thai but isn't. try it.

Concerned for all.. says:

Keith Summers is trying to pretend he's not John Galt in his juvenile posts here at Mango, but I assure you it is him.

His arrogance allows him to 'think' he can manipulate the readers into thinking its not him but this just shows how much of a moron he is.

Why doesn't he want you to know who he is, especially now that you know his ebay business? EBAY FEEDBACK? Hmm...

How would his little corner of the Thailand take to him if his site was translated to Thai and... use your imagination folks..

There are many reasons he doesn't want you to know for sure he's Keith Summers, and "breaking the rules" is the least of his problems in Thailand. Once his neighbours, employee's, and other Thai's in his life know what he thinks of them, banana girls, virgin exploits, etc, etc.. he's going to be out in the cold... if not laid up somewhere recovering.

Keith was given a chance to take his site down and behave like an adult. I'll extend that 12 more hours. If he does, then no harm no foul.. things will return to normal and he can go about his business as usual.

If not.. he must know by now he's not dealing with an amateur, nor someone without deep local resources. But then he is a moron so.. perhaps he'll have to learn the hard way. His choice..

Folks, this is bad for all farang in Thailand as I'm sure any halfway intelligent person knows. When you have a "bad farang" that threatens to spoil the show for the rest of us.. no matter his motivations or beliefs in right vs. wrong.. then it must be removed from the basket.

I'm truly concerned for all.. action must be taken soon.

Mr Lucky says:

OK, the forum grew since I wrote my last bit. The evidence for the Summers/Galt link now seems compelling. Whatever....tell the guy riding pillion to off them both just to make sure...

ajarn farang says:

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Casual Observer says:

Thanks for pointing that out logologo - now I see it so I guess I was fooled as well but for different reasons! I homed in on the reversed Thai characters อ ท ง ล - something I suspect Keith isn't capable of doing as he just assumed the 'strange' characters he didn't recognise were Thai.

The general message coming through from the postings here is that he is seriously out of line for what he has done.

Stick has been playing a dangerous game for a long time though trying to mix respectability with mongering as a means to generate money. The posting from Chris in Singapore summed it up perfectly. What next for the pair of them?

Big Bob says:

Personaly i think we should all be thanking Keith Summers for getting rid of the Stick, now we just need someone to get rid of Summers and Thailand is a much better place.

sleep with one eye open says:

First we can all use the ebay feedback and ruin this guys business.

Then we can keep an eye out in future for any sites selling this motorbike stuff and make sure those too fail.

Whilst many of us are not stick fans, i'm sure we all agree that scum like this should be removed from the gene pool.

The readership of stickman bangkok is huge, so too is mango sauce.

We have to get this guys picture out everywhere.

We can start by each printing out one or two sheets with his picture on, and an explanation of what he has done to all all farangs living here. Then we can take those out with us and stick them in the toilets of a bar frequented by expats.

Lets get this out to those that don't have internet. lets also do some copies in Thai.

No one likes a grass, and a grass always gets whats coming to him.

This twat needs to be driven out of Thailand!

Codejunkie says:

Again, there's NO DOUBT about Galt's identity. It is unmistakenly Keith Summers. For one thing, all his websites including AsianSignals.com and NotStickManBangkok.com are hosted on the same server in California. THIS IS A FACT PEOPLE (Read my previous post). There's too many traces of him on the internet that links everything together and the evidence is piling up. The case is being investigated as we speak.
If you want to contact NotStickManBangkok.com's hosting company you can do so at http://www.webhost4life.com/contactus.asp

Derukugi says:

I understand PayPal is pretty quick to block accounts, and slow to re-open them.
Since Keith Summers does a lot business via PayPal, it seems he is out on a thin limb there with his business model.

fountainhead says:

Galt had an axe to grind with Stick. he did it, and one method was to attack Stick's livelihood (i think Stick will get fired if/when his boss and/or work colleagues discover johngaltthailand.com and that the farang amongst them is "the" Stickman).

So now some readers here have axes to grind with Galt, and the method they're proposing is to ruin his business?

and how does that make you any different than what you're claiming is very bad?

i don't know either guy from a whole in the ground. it appears that Galt has behaved as a major cocksucker, but things aren't always what they appear, ESPECIALLY on the internet. i'll be staying out of this, thank you.

i suspect the people who choose to get involved will do so because they know one of the parties personally, and i suspect the person making implied threats to Galt here in this forum is a close friend of Stick (just a hunch) and he's really no better than Galt.

Graf says:

I love the way that guys tend to talk so big on the internet. I believe it was "Concerned for all" that posted a comment about giving John Galt 12 hours to take his site down or else. I say whatever man. I'm sure that in 12 hours... hell, lets make it 12 days, 6 months, 1 year even... that nothing is going to happen to John Galt.

I mean really, who in their right mind is going on some "wild goose hunt" to whatever province Galt lives in to try and do any sort of harm to him. Or for that matter, think for one second that the authorities in the part of Thailand he lives would even care. He obviously doesn't live anywhere near BKK, becaues he had to fly to visit there recently.

Just because someone might be "well connected" in Bangkok or Pattaya, doesn't mean that they are well connected anywhere else in Thailand.

Why stick up for Stickman? Do you think that Stickman would stick up for you? I don't completely agree with what Galt did. However, I just can't feel all that much sympothy for Stickman. Nobody forced him suspend his website. That was his choice.

Stick fan says:

Now that his pic has been posted in other forums...I think he might get a smack (or 2) in the mouth if he is recognised in the street.
I suggest u (summers) keep a very low profile until this has cooled off.

I have always thought salesmen are the lowest of the low...and summers has proved it.

ThaidUp says:

Given John's Galt own physical description off of his website. I think the picture is a match.

"To put this in perspective just a little. I'm middle age. Soon, I'll be 44. I'm certainly old enough to be these girls' father. I exercise regularly and I'm very trim and fit for my age. Generally, I have a young looking face. My face is a cross between Bruce Willis and Dana Carvey. I'm lucky, it's a good face. My hair is thinning and its about 50% grey (when its not died back to brown). "

Derukugi says:

Fountainhead,
I don`t know either of them, but surely you see the difference between a host and a parasite?
Stick minded his own business, and Galt made it his business (and almost obsession) to attack Stick.
That is not the same in my book.

Codejunkie says:

People who want to contact WebHost4Life.com (NotStickmanBangkok's hosting provider) might also direct their attention to "Uni Marketing Alliance, Inc.(UMA)", the company behind WebHost4Life.
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If an account is used unlawfully or is in violation of the user policy, UMA reserves the right to terminate the account without notice and without refunds. Files that violate the user policy are subject to deletion without notice. Clients violating the user policy will be held responsible for damages to UMA, including but not limited to, UMA's systems, servers, connectivity, reputation, business, service, network, operations, or equipment.
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I'm a simple programmer and a former Bangkok ex-pat. I've lived in BKK longer than both of these smucks (Summers & Stick) combined. I never cared for Stickman's nor NotStickman's site, but posting pictures of innocent people on a web site and then lying about it is just not done and reserved for low-lifes.

fountainhead says:

Derukugi said: "Fountainhead,
I don`t know either of them, but surely you see the difference between a host and a parasite?
Stick minded his own business, and Galt made it his business (and almost obsession) to attack Stick.
That is not the same in my book."

maybe i wasn't clear in what i said.

i completely agree with you. to my knowledge, Stick did nothing to deserve this level of personal attack (nor did his boss or co-workers), and Galt's attack was unprovoked (i could be wrong... i don't know) and over-the-line.

i was equating Galt to the seemingly random people here on MangoSauce making implied (or overt) threats towards him -- if they carry out those threats, they're no better than he: attacking a guy's livelihood, allegedly to defend a friend.

i apologize if i wasn't clear.

hugh jarse says:

Well,well,welll.
I have always enjoyed sticks submissions,particularly cent and dana.
But there have also been many other fine contributers.
Why galt is such an arsehole is a mystery.
PS-is graf also galt?

sleep with one eye open says:

Reap what you sow.......

John Galt AKA Keith Summers went out of his way to ruin stick's rice bowl.

I think it quite fair that for doing so in such an underhand way he himself deserves to lose his 'Rice Bowl'.

Ever heard the phrase....

an eye for an eye?