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June 16 2006

Expat girl living in a sexpat world

Expat girl living in a sexpat world

Kat from Phuket is Thailand's most outspoken farang female podcaster. In fact, she's Thailand only farang female podcaster.

Today, the cheeky minx likens the Bangkok expat scene to "Revenge of the Nerds" and shares with us the heartache of having had feelings for an Austrian divemaster called Walter who turned out to be massively into ladyboys.

As a Western female in Phuket my options are very, very limited... A lot of the guys are often complete assholes. It's amazing... Some of them are quite good looking but they still go with the bar girls.

For the past five years, she's been on the lookout for an attractive Western man capable of behaving responsibly around beautiful Thai girls but, quite frankly, her grail-quest sounds hopeless. Dan Brown will probably steal the idea for his next book.

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Listening to Kat's podcast feels a bit like going on a date with her - except that you're under no obligation to offer tea and sympathy as you scan the room for a Thai babe to rescue the evening.

In fairness, though, she quickly steps up a gear from the predictable "all men are bastards" stuff to tell some interesting anecdotes about the complex love-lives of the "please, Kat, don't... let's just be friends" farang guys in her social circle.

This is Kat's podcast:

http://www.expatgirl.com/expatgirl_1.mp3

And this is her blog:

http://expatgirl.blogspot.com

[Posted to Internet by David]

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Readers' comments

SeatSniffer says:

there once was a girl from phuket
when i scanned the room our eyes met
though she was from the west
i decided to quest
if she'd be up for thai bargirl roulette

bangkokram says:

David,
Any chance of passing on the Mobile number of the young Lady in the photo?

Landmark Larry says:

Why are Western women so surprised, and indeed greatly offended, to find that Western men in Thailand just can't be bothered with the tiresome and tedious challenge of entertaining them all night in the hope of possibly getting a shag. The tables are turned and they just can't handle it. Has anyone ever made the mistake of telling an English girlfriend that they've been to Thailand in the past? Well don't, you'll never live it down!!

Errant says:

If she’s still on the lookout, I invite Kat to accompany me and witness my scrupulously responsible behaviour around beautiful Thai girls. She’ll learn that I hire them at a fair price and am not disinclined to a brief cuddle just before they get eased out the door.

Rick H. says:

The most miserable looking creature on earth is the misguided farang man who brought his wife/girlfriend with him to Pattaya. Poor bastard.

hentaigaijin says:

I don't really understand why she is going on about sexpats when the whole commercial sex thing is a Thai tradition (go go bars aside). Just another example of what happens when a deeply unhappy person opens their mouth without putting their brain in gear.

The comment "some of them are quite good looking but they still go with the bar girls" just says it all. Doesn't she realise that men actually enjoy no-strings sex with beautiful women? We don't "have to", we actually "want to", luv. Next she'll be telling us that women get turned on by dead-beat guys with no cash.

Kat, life doesn't always turn out quite how we expect it to. Join the back of the queue.

MacMuffdiver says:

I know of a lass in Phuket,
Whose twat is exceedingly wet.
My matey went down
And I fear he may drown
As he hasn’t come up for air yet.

moss says:

Since living in Phuket must really be negative
reinforcment for this pixie, maybe what miss Kat needs is
a nudge in the direction of the Dutch West Indies? where she
would undoubtedly command respect and become a novelty, again,
say maybe Kingston, Jamaica...she'd see things differently!

jimbo says:

sound of her whining voice just sums it all up, no wonder she wants to create a podcast.
what sort of bloke wants to listen to that sort of crap all day she epitimises all that a lot of western men are trying to keep away from bitter jealousy thats what it is someone buy her a black mamba to shut her up for an hour or so, id sacrifice myself into bucking her to ease the pain of our brothers in phuket for a bit, wonder what she d do if i flicked a 500 baht note her way afterwards heh heh

PatongProwler says:

just listening to her flat voice drone on and on reminds me of why I shun American women.

Paul says:

I like this podcast. It's funny as hell... She tells a few funny stories about some guys she's met.
Plenty of guys in Thailand are in fact, morons. Many are pigs, many are misogynists, and most enjoy bitching about 'feminazis.'
I'm no feminist and I'm no bleeding heart, but Thailand really does have a big population of very vile sexpat men.

I don't envy her position- she seems like a perfectly nice woman and pretty well adjusted. I don't evny any single western woman living in Thailand.

bangkokram says:

Looks like the barrriers have gone up on Kats weblog! All comments now have to go through her to be published.
I'm not surprised, she as taken a real caning on the blog.

Linz says:

I can totally relate to Kat's comments having been here 8 months as young western single woman and only ever meeting guys who are travelling, 'passing through' or just well..into Asian women. It was quite a shock coming from the UK where there is an abundance of men - but my message to all you fine western ladies is to stay hopefull - mix in the expat bars/clubs/sceme and your bound to come across that special dude sometime, and it makes it all the more special when you do. Thailand does attract the 'sexpat' but I've also met some decent guys who are not attracted to Asia women (and typically) at the same time as meeting my now boyfriend (like bus's; not at all then 3 at once!) - who I ended up meeting in a trip to Malaysia - but dont give up, just enjoy the beautiful country and all the experiences it has to offer in the meantime and if Mr Right doesn't come along - rethink your location.

SanukCanuck says:

BangkokRam, two words. Hah. Hah!!!!

So the roles are finally reversed. You've had, as you say, an abudance of men in the UK. And you come to Thailand, and you're shocked that the tables have turned. I have no pity for you. You rule the roost in the UK, and you hate us men because we just want a little taste of your everyday world in the East. I'm not one big on revenge, but I'll say that your unintentional comment gave me a lot of satisfaction. Call me vindictive, ok, I'll accept that.

SC

Looper says:

She sounds OK and seems fairly accepting of the bargirl scene that she finds herself in - and she tells a couple of funny stories. Don't be too hard on her guys!

Dealio says:

hentaigaijin,
It's like Charlie Sheen said- You don't pay them for the sex, you pay them to leave...

ajarn farang says:

Both Paul and Linz have made interesting contributions to this thus far one-sided debate. However, I have to question the validity of this woman living in Thailand for 5 years only to moan about it afterwards - that's not going to change anything so what's the point!

How about just accepting that men will always be in the market for no-strings sex with beautiful women (duh!). Then move on. Both figuratively and perhaps literally.

If you are on a crusade to rid Thailand of the flesh trade then you will have to do a hell of a lot more than attack these "sexpats" as you call them. By the way Kat, when you were younger and used to go on holiday to Greece or Spain looking for a shag, what did you refer to yourself as?

The cash doesn't enter into it as far as I'm concerned: the girls are just girls so don't be so quick to judge them - more than likely you'd end up doing the same if in their shoes. Victorian London was teeming with prostitutes and anywhere there is poverty, there is prostitution.

Lastly, another reason why I rate Thai girls so highly, apart from their good looks, is that they are fun and know how to have fun. Who wants to knock around with women who expect you to listen as they vent each and every one of life's frustrations. I'd rather get pissed!

Grunt says:

Ok, I managed to struggle through the podcast. There is one small point that seems to stick in my craw.

Please, someone correct me if Im wrong, but it seems the Austrian guy would rather have a romp with the local ladyboys then subject himself to "Kat" and her monotonous, SSRI induced slurrings?

pescator says:

One can only wonder why she stays on in Phuket - which she by the way haven`t learnt how to pronounce properly yet.
One can also wonder why she happily posts a picture of a bargirl? on her blog whileas her own appearance is not revealed.

curious says:

It s a very pessimistic view of what really happens in Thailand. I thought it was possible to meet gorgeous, nice and fun thai boys in bars or disco, wasn t it. As our werstern husbands, women can have the choice among bar boys.What do you think?

ajarn farang says:

She says that she thinks it's really funny that these guys pay for sex and think the girls are actually into them...

I reckon the funniest part is that they'd rather pay a whore than shag her for free!!

=;-B)

Johnny says:

I'm sure she can find someone to love her, she may have to actually be nice to some of the good-looking arseholes however. This may be a difficult task for women that are used to giving reject signals and dirty looks to potential suitors and expecting them to continue to pursue them. She may actually have to be a fun person to be around and put out a positive energy, instead of the dead-eye souless look that is so typical of many farang women these days. I don't know what she is like personally, it is hard to tell. Some American women are very interesting to talk to and can be very cool to talk too. In fact I would venture to say American women would be the most interesting mentally of all "farang" women, and that obviously counts the most.

She seems quite naive to call the bar girls prostitutes. That really is resorting to name calling. Sure there are examples of this, but this is the minority of the bar girls. Alot of western men do fall in love with these girls in the real sense of the word, it is hard not to. Most men really do look after them quite well and treat them with alot of respect and kindness as they share a close and real bond together. It is easy to do when there is a receptive, good-looking, charming, cute, fun, very interesting women that is keen on you too. Of course there can be many problems too. These wonderful women are by and large quite intelligent, independant thinkers, and won't take shit off anyone. They expect to be treated nicely and with dignity.

There are also many men who would consider themselves above the bar girls and would never contemplate going with them, this seems to be an attitude that ExpatGirl shares. Perhaps the expat girl may find joy with these transitory young men.

It is easy to point the finger.

No doubt many women on vacation "open up" in Europe or South America or the Carribean. Yet at home may be very difficult to converse with their own kind, however well intentioned the man may be.

ajarn farang says:

Precisely my dear Johnny! Do you think she'll listen? Or do you think she'll continue unabated, attacking ugly blokes having fun, purely in order to make herself feel better (low self-esteem)?

hentaigaijin says:

Dearest Kat,

Did it ever occur to you that your name rhymes with twat? If you are going to talk about why you believe prostitution is wrong then I would be willing to listen to that. However, if your main point is just to belittle men who are found wanting in the 'looks department' then this is rather trivial - unless of course you are going to do it in the interests of comedy (in which case you would have to put an amusing slant on the whole thing). Sure, we can all laugh at ugly blokes (and we should be able to laugh at ourselves, first and foremost).

If however you are just having a dig at others because you have an inflated idea of your own self-importance, put a photo of yourself on the site and let's see what you got baby!!

If you reworked the original concept, the blog could be a winner!

jake says:

from reading all of the comments above, it's all about farang men, farang women and thai girls.

i guess thai men are just invisible and just don't exist in their own country. how very sad.

paddy says:

give the poor girl a break guys. i dont think she said anything very insulting and i think she is trying to understand why us guys do it. i know i will never again in my life bother to try to chat up or sleep with a farang girl. but she is right about some of the blokes i see in bkk and pattaya. fat crusty old bastards with such sweet looking young women it turns my stomach. and i am a sex toutist. maybe my opinion will change though when i am one of those crusty old bastards

Sarah says:

single expat farang women in thailand are lonely and frustrated? what a bunch of rubbish!

this is not the case at all, as far as my circle of expat female friends and aquaintences are concerned, and also from my observations of farang women in thailand, in general.

yes, it is true that most farang men here do prefer thai, over farang women. but what is not true is that farang girls sit at home at night cause we don't a farang guy to go out with. not so at all. farang girls soon learn to adjust to the situation here, and so, we start dating thai men. i mean, if you think about it, it only makes sense. there's an awful lot of thai guys here, who are very willing to date farang girls. which gives us much more to pick and choose from. believe me, there are no shortage of thai men who are willing to go out with farang girls. all of the farang girls i know have dated thai men, and a good number of them have thai boyfriends.

it's perfectly fine, that farang guys prefer thai girls, because farang girls have our pick of thai guys here.

and that's what really goes on here.

Sarah

ajarn farang says:

nice. so everyone is happy right?

JD says:

Right - I think it's time for a bit of honesty here. Anyone travelling to the Thai tourist areas such as Phuket and Pattaya who bothers to take a bit of time to observe their surroundings (rather than just gawping at and shagging Thai totty) can't help but notice that many of the foreign men in these areas do seem to have similar characteristics. They are the middle aged, to just plain OLD, sex-pat/sex-tourist. I try to live by the principals of: "live and let live" and "never judge a book by it's cover" - well I am going to go right back on that second one for now! A lot of the guys I am referring to are probably reading this web-site and believe it or not, I am not casting dispersions - but I think many of these men are probably social misfits to a slight degree in their home countries. Never blessed with a dazzling personality, great looks, or impressive intellect, they have plodded and meandered through life, probably drinking fairly heavily, as odd-job men and manual workers. Their social interactions can often feel superficial, evolving around alcohol consumption in local pubs, social-clubs, snooker halls and betting offices. They are well past their prime and out of shape.

These old-timers then discover Thailand! Before you know it they are sporting grey, straggly ponytails, tropical style short-sleeved shirts unbuttoned to their beer bellies and are knee deep in Thai pussy! I don't blame these guys - they were probably fed up with the cards that life dealt them in their home country and decided to do something about it. Their foreign currency and western status can get them a lot in Thailand, including social respect and more importantly, beautiful Thai girls ready to have sex with them. Lets not kid ourselves here, you may be one of these guys – I may be one of them in 20 years time, but they stand NO CHANCE of finding young, sexual attractive partners in their home countries.

Younger, better-looking guys in these same areas want to have sex/relationships with Thai girls rather than western girls because:

A) They are on holiday – don’t want commitment and can have sex with any number of beautiful girls for half the price of a first date back home.
B) They are bored of relationships with neurotic, overly complex, overly demanding western women.
C) Your average, well turned out Thai girl looks a whole lot more exotic and sexy than your average Farrang girl.
D) All of the above.

This is not a complex issue. Men want to have sex with young attractive girls that make them feel good and don't do their heads in...and they do so until the day they die!

My only advice to Farang girls in these areas:
A) Be patient and don't get bitter (this will make you even less attractive)
B) Move to the real world - perhaps an area of Thailand that isn't a socially engineered sexual fun-park.
C) Slap on the factor 50 sunscreen, dye your hair blonde, learn some Thai and start wooing attractive, educated, young Thai men.

Hope that helped.

Durga is my homey says:

"she quickly steps up a gear from the predictable 'all men are bastards'"

Meh…? I didn’t hear where she called all men bastards. Or anything like that.

I thought it was funny and entertaining. I’ve always wanted to hear a female perspective from Asia as I plan to travel to Cambodia, and she didn’t sound bitter at all so that I don‘t understand. She called them as she saw them (is she not allowed to do that?) and, yeah, some were assholes apparently, but I bet some are. The comments here, on the other hand, are basically fighting claims she never made in a vindictive manner.

bob says:

Ajarn Farang,

While I cannot dispute that many farang men in Thailand may in fact be misfits in their own countries, it is simply impossible to buy into the picture you paint above as being fact.

For every guy you describe above I have met another that was not a manual labourer, odd-job, heavy drinking misfit. If you are going to make generalizations based on a pre-conceived outcome on a particular hypothesis, you will indeed get the results you are looking for.
However, if you look at all expats living in Bangkok, it would be impossible to come to your cnclusions.

I personally know many PhD. holders, computer programmers and successful entrepreneurs that have made Thailand home.

The only common characteristic I see between all of these groups is the desire for a shag with something that weighs less than a tonne and some femininity!

biff says:

I came to Thailand to work. I have had a few successful (obviously not that successful!) relationships with western woman and have found them to be great partners. When I arrived in Thailand I was lonely and looking for a good time, and obviously found it without much effort.
The truth is that we all love women, but men are inherintly lazy when it comes to the pursuit. The fact that there are so many attractive easy playmates available here is the reason that so many farang women struggle to meet a partner. There is nothing wrong with you ladies, its just that most guys out here can't be bothered to put in the time.
Lets face it, guys have never really looked for the depth that women do, we want a more simple life with someone who is fun to be with, and that we find attractive. Thailand offers all of that. To bash Kat for her podcast is wrong.
She was just pointing out how she feels. I can imagine it would get pretty lonely out here at times. If I am not mistaken most of you guys like to talk about how you felt with your mates the next morning....
Slamming her over her opinions only seems to elude to the fact that she may have hit a raw nerve amongst some of you and is hinting at something you don't want to hear. No need to applaud her, but to attact her is wrong. Or would you rather she submitted and backed down?

Bangkokram says:

Boy! This Post as generated more label pinning than most others on Mangosauce.
I'm intrigued by JD's comments. So i've applied them to myself to see how correct they are;

"They are the middle aged, to just plain OLD, sex-pat/sex-tourist"

I guess 39 is middle aged, so I guess he is right on that one.

"but I think many of these men are probably social misfits to a slight degree in their home countries"

I like to think I had a large circle of friends back in Blighty, and miss many of them. I look forward to their visits. So your wrong on that score JD.

"Never blessed with a dazzling personality, great looks, or impressive intellect"

I like to think way off the mark. Up until I married at 22, I was your classic young person, I've seen worse looking men and can more than hold my own in any social and intellectual gathering. So wrong No. 2 JD.

"Their social interactions can often feel superficial, evolving around alcohol consumption in local pubs, social-clubs, snooker halls and betting offices. They are well past their prime and out of shape".

My profeesion in the UK involved lots of interaction, my salary told me I was good at it. I've never been a large alcohol drinker due to the fact I was a serious athlete in my prime. I've thought about and I've been to three Snooker Halls and two Betting Shops in my life.
Sadly I am out of shape at the moment due to a Thyroid problem. I do however try to keep fit with occassional bike rides and a new Gym memebrship. Sorry JD, wrong again!

"Before you know it they are sporting grey, straggly ponytails, tropical style short-sleeved shirts unbuttoned to their beer bellies and are knee deep in Thai pussy"!

Wrong, wrong, wrong! I would rather die than sport a straggly ponytail, I prefare Plaid shirts with the top button undone, I dont live in Bangkok, so i'm not up to my knees in Thai pussy. Four wrongs now JD!

"they were probably fed up with the cards that life dealt them in their home country and decided to do something about it"

I'll give you this point JD, without going into detail, life in the UK sucked! TAX, VAT, High cost of living, Nanny State, Moral decline and a general unease with the whole lifestyle in the UK made my mind up to move. This is the right of every person in the UK.

"but they stand NO CHANCE of finding young, sexual attractive partners in their home countries"

I'll partly give you this one, being back on the partner search market at 36 gave me few options, you only talk about sexually attractive partners, alas a relationship is built on more than sex, what do you do for the other 98% of the time?
Since my first visit to thailand, Avaliable Farang women have not held any appeal to me. The choice I had was an adulteress with four kids and a drinking problem who blames men for all her troubles, or a slightly younger, professional (In a proper job sense)never been married, beautiful, Charming, steady Thai woman?

Much as I hate to use statistics, I reckon, using me as an Ex-pat template, you got 20% of your labelling correct! Maybe i'm the exception, I hope not.

Maybe David should put out a post posing these questions for a more realistic veiw of the Ex-pats in Thailand.

Girl Farang says:

Bangkok Ram, Stop taking it so personally.Its NOT about You. Are you saying that you dont notice people who DO fit JD's Description? In abbundance?

Anonymous says:

Seems like she was a flash in the pan, a one hit wonder. Maybe this lack of commitment to a challenge is a part of her dating problem.

bangkokram says:

Yes, I have seen some of the guys in JD's description. Abbundance, is not the word I would use to describe the number.
Sitting having a quiet pint, watching the world go by on one of my visits to a resort. The age group that I tend to see most of is the younger Farang male, the sort of blokes I used to see in Med resorts.
Probaly because the resorts of Magalluf, San Antone and Kavos are cleaning up their act, and packages as little as £659 for 14 days, beer at less than £1 per bottle. Who can blame them.

JD says:

I'm not really that into labeling and although I may have attempted to make my comment above a bit punchy, I'm really not being judgmental. Thailand, if I'm not mistaken, means "land of the free" and people should be allowed to do what they want there, within the bounds of decency and cultural respect, as much as within their own countries.

Maybe the type of men I describe above (the old-timers/drifters/social misfit sex-pats and sex-tourists) are not VERY abundant but I still maintain that Thailand does attract its fair share of this type of Westerner. Also, maybe this type of men seems more abundant because, through our western eyes, they do tend to stand out from the crowd. Thailand is a real leveler of a place for foreign visitors where the social hierarchies of our western cultures - based on youth, looks, wealth and style, are evened out. I think the reason why these men are noticeable and attract many derogatory comments, is that they are certainly more abundant than back home, but also that they are out-and-about and are being treated with as much social respect and having as much fun as all the pretty young things. I think that some of the resentment towards these men is because their apparent equality is an affront to the western mindset of social hierarchy. Basically, ageing, less attractive, less educated/wealthy men shouldn't be out in bars and night-clubs, shouldn't be having too much fun and definitely shouldn't be having sex with attractive young girls. Some visitors find this apparent leveling-out a devaluation of their own perceived status which they packed with them before they left home along with the swimming suits and sandals. Many people find it confusing, some find it amusing and some (mostly western girls) find it disgusting. The irony is that Thais are indoctrinated with their own complex rules of social hierarchy. I think the leveling out effect of Westerners is due to all Westerners seemingly being automatically placed near the top of the Thai scale for just being Western! Example: try explaining to a group of Thai people that you are really not wealthy in your home country when you earn 200,000 Baht per month - it will take some time!

I guess some of my slightly disparaging comments in the post above, i.e. ponytails and hairy chests, are more to do with people "going loco" - getting a bit too carried away with their ex-pat status. This applies to young and old alike. Example: I've seen a guy in a Bangkok night-club: average looking, mid thirties, dressed in an all white "Saturday Night Fever" style suit, greased-back hair, dancing like a complete plonker - thinking he really is god's gift to women! We’ve all seen these sights in various incarnations. The funny thing was that this guy was certainly getting quite a lot of attention from the Thai girls!

We cannot blame the Thais for viewing different social elements of Western culture through Thai eyes. Some people also find it difficult not to be judgmental about men who take advantage of the improved opportunities that their western status and western money offer them, that it is an exploitation of Thai naivety and inequality. Where people cross the line of exploitation is very much a subjective judgment. In my mind, on thing is for certain: the more you try to understand Thai culture and its intersections with western culture - the more confusing it gets!

alex says:

im going to Thailand after i graduate from college. screw america. screw these feminazis.

DiCK Renegade says:

So, going with bar girls makes you an asshole? I suspect she's mad about guys not going with her. BTW, I think she could get lots of men if she tried getting a job in a Thai Go-Go bar as a dancer.

kevin campolo says:

I am a 57 year old man who went to Thailand for the first time in december 2006.I did not go there as a sex tourist in any sense of the word but toured the entire country from north to south, immersing myself in the culture. I was immediately struck by the attitude of Thai women towards western men. I did nothing different there as far as manners and common courtesy but the response I received from the women, especially young women, was amazing. I would hold a door open for a woman and she would almost fall over herself with appreciation, smiling and gushing, and being very thankful. I would step out of the way and let the woman go first. I would always try to be patient even when I didn't want to be and smiled as often as I could because I was happy there. I quickly noticed that the young women would move closer to me and try to talk to me in their limited way. They were grateful for the little courtesies shown to them. Beautiful, young, smiling Thai women were in abundance everywhere and all I had to do was be myself to attract all the attention, and more, than I would ever want. They made me feel like a man should feel. Appreciated for trying to take the time to treat others with respect and dignity. Contrast this to the way white women look upon and treat their men. Everything is a struggle and one never knows from one day to another how you will be treated. Courtesies are often ignored, if not downright looked down upon with suspiscion and contempt. Try to be a decent man and you're looked upon as weak or soft. Instead of choosing a decent man, white women go after "bad boys" (translate assholes) or some other loser that will treat them like shit and never contribute a dime to the financial well being of a relationship. White women often treat white men as their oppressors and users thus the constant struggle for control of a relationship.I don't understand, I have never understood, why white women have to make everything so difficult. I am not a bad looking guy for my age, I am physically fit and financially in very good shape. I cannot forget the differences between the women and I am going back to Thailand for a month this december. The impact that Thailand has had upon me is enormous. Why in the world would any man in his right mind want to spend the rest of his days catering to the whims of selfish, ungrateful, overweight, uncaring, unfeeling shrews when the readily available alternative of a plentiful supply of beautiful, young, willing, exotic women exists. There's no contest. As an ending, I found the white women, on the whole, to have brought all their snobbishness, pettiness, and 'I deserve special treatment because I'm so wonderful' attitudes with them to Thailand. It was very sad to see and after three days of touring I would not even look at one or acknowledge their presence in any way. Lament all you want, ladies. It's your fault, not ours, that Thai women are chosen over you.

Genie says:

That recording was 'me me me me me, and me'. Oh and 'me me me'. No wonder she's single.

Genie says:

That recording was 'me me me me me, and me'. Oh and 'me me me'. No wonder she's single.

Wrathfultalon says:

I'm headed to Thailand at the end of the month and have been looking around to get a vibe of what it's like. While I can see her points, I can't see why she begrudges the people for what they do. If someone goes to the store for ice cream why would you be suprised by them buying it? Thailand is renowned for this behavior, um it's not something that recently happened. As for the woman, leaving the US has definately changed my view of how woman normally act. The cold shoulder routine is what I'm used to. Is it wrong to look for what YOU want? Seems worse that she wish her morals upon others.

Steverino says:

Kevin Campolo, you nailed it.

Hard.

:)

Pants Elk says:

Kevin Campolo's post should be woven into some kind of flag. I, for one, would march under it.
I may have it tattooed on my monster pharang cock, which I would then offer (in a read, don't touch way) to all the sour-eyed baggy-bellied whining western women who feel it their right to criticise pharang men (of any age and appearance) for finding Thai women a total treat.
I've made "yeeeuch" noises myself, when seeing gross sweating sea-cow bald white fucks holding the hand of some radiant Thai waif, but ultimately, who's to say that they don't deserve a little happiness too? What kind of judgement is going on here? You have to be young, slim and attractive to merit that kind of pleasure?
If there was a similar resource/resort for pharang women, a place where they could go and enjoy the studly attentions of lithe young men who pretended, charmingly, to find their clumsy bodies attractive, would we go there just to hang around and bitch?

Satyr says:

Pants Elk... "If there was a similar resource/resort for pharang women"

There are places in Jamaica...

Pants Elk says:

Jamaica, you say? Hmmm ... how about a bunch of us blokes fly out there, belly up to the bar, and spend a couple of weeks bitching about pathetic pharang women sex tourists, our lips puckered like withered sphincters as we stare at them with bitter "you're going to hell" righteousness ...
Nah. Let's stay here and give our tickets to the pinch-faced white wenches who look like blowfish out of water as they touristically sample the naughtiness of the NEP, with no choice but to be morally above it all.

roger says:

None of this is important. Yes western men enjoy the whole Thai experience of which the bargirl is one. Women would do the same if the table was turned.

Wickerman says:

I guess it's time for me to fess up.
I am one of those fat, bald, middleaged losers with serious issues regarding his mother.
I'm ready to mount the scaffold.
But first I get one last request...
To spend just one more night with a beautiful, nubile young Thai lady.
Then I will go peacefully with a smile on my face. No need for a blindfold.

Grunt says:

"Women would do the same if the table was turned." - roger

By this you mean exploit an advantage?

Guess you didnt see the statistics about divorce rates in some American states being as high as 90% (so high they simply stopped reporting) and that the female initiates the divorce 70% of the time and that the female gains custody of any children 9 out of 10 times and that blood bank surveys show that as many as 1 in 3 kids is NOT from the putative father...etc etc etc?

The only way I could see parity to the above as regarding Western guys and Thai ladies is if the men started raping, beating, robbing and selling the girls into sex slavery on a routine basis.

Other then that we guys are saints in comparison to the glassy eyed cultists of feminism we call the western female.

Anonymous says:

which states, are the divorce rate around 90%?

Rick says:

Hey, im a single western male in Thailand (Phuket) who has no interest in chasing Thai women.

dave says:

I loved Kats podcast very sincere
and open minded woman.
I'm the 1% she talks about taht wants a western girl.

I mean i think its stupid to have to pay a stupid thai girl to go to a damn movie
Thais have no idea about being friends and plus they hate us.

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