Dave the Rave fills Stickman's hole

Conan says:

I can't read that site if I tried - welcome to the net circa 1995. Woooo flash y pretty things....
.... at least it proves that stickmans layout was not THAT bad after all :(

Strap says:

Good to see the past 'Stalkers' cant stop the future, Goodluck Dave ,I will check out your site.

Cheers

gazza says:

what about stickboy bangkok- coming soon??

Matt says:

I don't like the look of Dave the Rave's website.

gazza says:

Guess we will then get...

notdavetherave.com

and then

notstickboybangkok.com...

nightrider says:

Web design and Bangkok-nightlife seems to be like fire and water, but I like people not shy of trying ;-))

Mangosauce is quite O.K.

Grunt says:

The eye candy section alone makes the site worth a click.

Let the western females blather all they want, the proof is in the pictures.

Dave The Rave says:

I would like to thank David very much for mentioning my new website. OK, I am a newbie to websites, in fact a friend and I threw this together in a very short space of time. I am not a web wizard, but surely CONTENT is what counts, right? Nobody is perfect so please give me a chance to report nightlife news and reviews. Never judge a book by its cover Mr. Conan! Cheers, Dave The Rave.

tingtawng says:

DaveTheRave - you are currently living in 1997. Go here:-

http://wordpress.org/

This is your Delorean to the 'future'.

Cartoonist says:

So can we expect to hear how wonderful Angelwitch is every week? Dave has a real opportunity to provide nightlife news, but can someone so visible really provide real news?

The pictures are great. Keep them coming.

FlightRisk says:

Don't knock Dave's site until you've read the info. Good stuff in there, an up-to-date and accurate view of BKK nightlife and customs. Like all websites, it's a work in progress, and I expect it'll get better 'n better over time.

Of course, me, I just visit Dave's website for the articles ...

- FlightRisk

webmaster says:

I am Dave’s webmaster for the moment. You comments positive or negative are welcome. Both Dave and I know that getting it up is more important than how it looks... wait some how that did not sound right.. At any rate the present design is not permanent. Quick loading, good real time information and a stress management section known as “Eye candy” were the initial goals. Some people are still on dial up so the basic appearance works fine for them. The site’s appearance will evolve after we get past the teething stage.

Webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Dave The Rave says:

I appreciate all of your comments guys. I officially launched on December 1 so please be patient. I will develope the site in time, but I thought it more important to get real-time reports out there for you "Night Fever" fans. Cheers!

Common Sense says:

I may be mistaken but after going over your sight I can't find one reference to Mango Sauce although other sites are well advertised. I see you've taken a page from Stickman's book when it comes to returning favors.

webmaster says:

There additions every day to the site, is suspect if you hit refresh...... you will find Mango Sauce in the My sites page, and perhaps a healthy mention in the next Night Fever. There are plenty of other ideas Dave and I are kicking around. We were toying with a monthly Bar Girl in depth interview, and allowing the readers to vote for the Bar Girl of the year. So obviously pro photos and some provocative questions in the interviews would be ...... well lets just say testosterone generating.

Webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Who Needs A Guide To Bangkok? says:

Riveting stuff! Can't wait till the Ask Mrs Dave section is up...till then I'll go get some head at The Bull's Killkenny Pub.

DontWasteYourTime says:

People told me that MangoSauce was good but I will not visit again.

This quote "with most of the nightlife news being ghost-written by Dave the Rave" is 100% false. Shame Shame Mango Sauce.

Dean Barrett is the best read in town and is better than Stickman but for Stick readers don't waste your time with Dave's site. Stick will be back.

Dean though is worth it. Unlike Dave he has no conflict of interest because he doesn't manage at Angelwitch. He is a book author. Dean also visits everywhere. He is always on the street with his camera and partakes in the action as well. Shame again on MangoSauce for promoting this site. A huge waste of time for readers and please check your facts next time

Harry Barracuda says:

Well I've just ploughed through the Dean Barrett site and most of it is the usual indignant American anti-feminist, anti-Islam tosh. The "audio" clip is so puerile it's unbelievable.

So DontWasteYourTime here mate, you obviously haven't got a clue what you're on about.

Mr. Dusty says:

Dave,

Keep up the good work! Chok dii khrap.

Webmaster says:

One of the unique things that Dave has is the ability to see things from the inside. Because he is not some shadowy figure the people who he works with have come to trust him (bar girls). This will provide some information for him. Also because everyone eventually goes to the go-go bars and I do mean everyone Dave tends to be a good source of information as they tell Dave their tails of Thailand. Comparing Dean, Stick, The Barron, and Dave each has their own unique style of writing. It is a bit like deciding if you want to read Penthouse, Playboy or Hustler. Dave looks to only write positive things as there are too many negatives already.

It is a bit disturbing that there are people looking to just make trouble for others like the Stick Galt issue. It certainly appears that they don’t seem to think of the personal fallout from doing this. Actually I am surprised that Galt is still alive this long after his negative remarks about the Thais and linking parts of the Thai government to the nightlife. It is just a matter of time before he realizes why there are no tabloids in Thailand and the people who had tabloids in the past are not around anymore either.

For the comments and emails on what software is best, I want to thank all of you, and I will look at it in the near future. At this point in time there is simply not enough content yet to support all the holes that will appear by getting fancy. On the same note comparisons to older and more established websites is a bit premature.

Webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Chris Ames says:

I've known Dave since 1998 and his wit and enthusiasm for Bangkok have never wavered. I think Dave could fill the space left by Trink. Dave… have fun and keep it coming. I know you’ll succeed. PS web design critisism is for katoeys.
Missing LOS

Will Morledge says:

We welcome Dave to Sin City's Internet sharkpool. There is plenty of room for original input such as his, and the more people contributing, the more accurately will the history of Bangkok's Night Entertainment be recorded.

Will Morledge
Bangkok Eyes

Sam the Tailor says:

I don't want anyone filling my hole... if you know what I mean...

Johnny Tokyo says:

Mangosauce is the winner here.
David's a writer. No real axe to grind.

Yeah, I know you're all trying to give Stickman a break after the beating he
took at the hand of this Summers doofus.
You did all this to yourself, son.

Um, thanks.
I needed that but you got the message.

TANAI KWAI says:

Is this "Dave" the bald and slightly portly fellow who, along with his talented Katoey choreographer, hoots and claps like wild after each dance number so as to maintain the electric environment at AngelWitch? If so, I would like to note that with a steady string of fresh AC-DC and Bad Company hits blaring through the smoky haze such hortatory gestures are hardly necessary.

I understand Noi's younger sister is now working the stage, which is the best news I've heard since the turn of the century. I also hear there is an all-new show.

I take this opportunity to request a Playbill-style review of the revue. What are the highlights? (If they've gotten rid of the Isaan clacking limbo-stick dance there'll be hell to pay.)

Andy says:

Was there ever a hole left by Trink?

Sad to say that lots of secondhand jokes; quotes from ancient "Burma Shave" adverts; and the all-encompassing "T.I.T." by way of an explanation, certainly marked his last few years at the Bangkok Post as pretty embarrassing, tbh.

He was just the first to write up the capital's nightlife is all...

Daniel says:

"negative remarks about the Thais and linking parts of the Thai government to the nightlife."

When did Galt link the government to the nightlife? Link please.

DontWasteYourTime says:

I hope Dave makes money with the site. He's going to need it when he gets fired from Angelwitch. Will Dave be able to criticize another go-go? Does he even go to other go-go's, barfine, etc.? One call from another go-go bar owner to the Angelwitch owner saying "Do you know that your Manager is trashing my bar and costing me money?" and Dave is toast. This is what I mean by conflict of interest and is why Dave will surely water down the content, to protect his job. So, that leaves you with updates on what is happening. How accurate is Dave with that? Well, my buddy received an e-mail from Dave about last week's King's Birthday and who was open. He said that Nana was open and Cowboy, Patpong and Pattaya were closed. Meanwhile, Cowboy and Pattaya were open. If updates are all you get and they are this inaccurate, what else is there?

And who is webmaster and why do I care what he thinks about Dave and his perspective. You're his webmaster. Big surprise you love Dave and his perspective. Wouldn't surprise me if you are adding positive comments to this thread as another username.

This is my last comment on this thread since it disgusts me that we are even talking about it. Get a clue folks and if not feel free to read Dave's column. It fits you perfectly. Please come back soon Stick so this Dave guy goes away. He can join Keith Summers on the small minded, jealous of Stick people that are looking for their 15 minutes of fame list.

MICHAEL FOX says:

" DAVE THE RAVE - IS THE MAN !" keep all the good news coming Dave, all the experts, who shoot negative vibes - are born losers, and more than likely, either Chelski, Liverpool or Yankee's fans...right, they know sweet FA !"

Er says:

Daniel, think he meant it was a government school whose staff photo's were on Galt's site, and the linkage was via Stick as a nightlife commentator if not partaker.

As Dave the Rave is an insider, perhaps he can comment on the way some bars employ truck-loads of ex-brothel gals????

Webmaster says:

I don’t want to talk about Galt, but I will help connect the dots for you.
Galt very intentionally in his Banana girls page connected Thai teachers to the night life. Apparently he realized later that was not such a brilliant idea to insinuate Thai teachers are part of the night life and he removed the photos, but the damage was done. First point Thai teachers are government officials and work as part of the ministry of education.

The next thing was in the following column he disclosed who Stickman was, and tied not just four teachers to the nightlife but the whole school from the director down and Galt even used the name of the school. (Stickman never used names in any of his pieces so it could be anyone or even an overactive imagination on Stickman’s part)

Point number three, The King of Thailand is looking to establish what is called a self-sufficient economy. One of the key elements to a establishing a self-sufficient economy is education through the ministry of Education. So by Galt directly tying elements of the Ministry of Education to the nightlife, he may have indirectly insulted the King of Thailand. I trust I don’t need to connect any more dots for you to see the picture of how dangerous that can be for ones health, particularly if you live in rural northern Thailand as Galt does.

I personally think Stickman is waiting for some upset Thai(s) to take Galt out before he comes back. My guess is the wait will not be too long and Stickman will be back next month. Here is a good read on Dave’s website the will explain more. It was composed long before people even heard of Galt. http://davetheravebangkok.com/face.htm

Webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Known him since he worked for Johnny in Hollywood upstairs says:

If you've ever read Dave's posts on the former stickman advertiser, clubhombre.com, you know that he is a shill. You also know that he really knows how to alienate his potential customers.

He's a self proclaimed Bob Hope wannabe that comes up way short (in talent, not stature) of being an entertainer. Stop in and see him at AW, you'll get a laugh out of listening to the little runt roaring into the microphone trying to get the crowd excited. Dave, customers come to AW for pussy, not to be entertained by you, Matt or Mr. Pim.

Let him have his litterbox to play in.

Webmaster says:

To don’t waist your time: Your comment about being open on the Kings Birthday. One of the key features on Dave’s site is the main page Marquee as it is basically a news feed. As I recall from memory We put up about 10 days before the King’s birthday that it was a questionable day.

On Sunday night December 3rd Dave contacted me and informed me that Parts of Nana Plaza would be open, but as far as he knew Patpong and Soi Cowboy would be closed as they were in other police districts. That information was running in the Marquee minutes later.

Monday night December 4th I went to Soi Cowboy and inquired about being open. The manager of Dollhouse told me that at least 8 bars would be open. Moments later Dave called me and said that the King had just commented in his annual speech that there was no need to close. That information went live on line around midnight Bangkok time 18 hours before the evening in question. The news was so up to date, Rawhide and Long Gun were having a meeting at about 7:00 pm Monday night announcing they would be closed and several bar girls were making other plans for Tuesday. Some were significantly upset when they found out later they had to work. So bottom line was the information was live on line as soon as we found out.

Anyone that lives in Thailand knows good information is hard to find. The intent is to make the home page marquee a real time source of news. That’s not all, we have set up 3 mailing list one of them is called real-time. In the event some urgent news happens and neither of us can easily update the marquee, all Dave need do is walk into any Internet shop and send off a message. Many people get their email on their mobile phones and that can have a great effect on how people plan their evening. I was not surprised to see that the real-time list by far has the most names on it. Every bar owner and manager we have talked to thinks that is a wonderful idea as it can significantly change the evenings bottom line.

Dave being a bar manager understands the meaning of customer service, and you will see that reflected in his website. It is no coincident that Dave chose Wednesday for he weekly column Night Fever. Once more people know about it Dave will be fed significant relevant information night by night and it will appear on he marquee very shortly after if it requires real-time action. Something like the police are doing drug testing at a venue would most certainly find its way you the real-time mailing list and to the marquee if possible.

One note to people who put fictitious names like “don’t waist your time”, if you can’t put your real name then what you post is viewed my me and I am sure others as “You know what you are saying is BS and or inaccurately negative and you are afraid to identify yourself because you know it is BS and or inaccurately negative too.”

webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Andy says:

Quote: "Point number three, The King of Thailand is looking to establish what is called a self-sufficient economy. One of the key elements to a establishing a self-sufficient economy is education through the ministry of Education. So by Galt directly tying elements of the Ministry of Education to the nightlife, he may have indirectly insulted the King of Thailand."

Thats a rather tenuous connection, Webmaster. And at best, a shit-stirring "lese majeste" accusation of the type that Thai politicos like to band around for fun.
Rather like shagging midgets with learning disabilities; "its not big and its not clever". Please desist.

William Mahanakorn says:

Dean Barrett cannot write his way out of a paper bag. I had the grave misfortune of reading "Kingdom of Make Believe" this past summer, and it reads like the depraved barstool reveries of a mildly retarded adolescent boy who mistakes the world of titty bars for a grander, more epic literary trope, and whose fantasies resemble the cartoons of more fully realized adult preoccupations and romantic love. Trink, however, had the quality of being noirish as well as a genuine pioneer of what I will call third world red light journalism. He made "moseying over" to the boites of Patpong seem like a positively Rockwellian experience, totally cleansed of the darker vagaries of the experience, like throwing up at midnight in the Kangaroo bar (for which I received no rebuke from the two Khmers who attended to me). Stick is the rightful heir to this genre...a gosh-golly gee! approach that sits well with the reader while his earnest investigations on behalf of besotted and semi-moronic pensioners, who Western Union thousands of pounds and dollars to prostitutes, had struck me as almost American (and morally questionable) in its intent. Stick was like the Ragged Dick of the Demimonde and he should write again. 'Nuff said.

Jack Wow says:

Yes, very tenuous link webmaster.
The site looks about as appealing as Notstickman at the moment.

Bangkokbob's the man for the nightlife info, and his "Strange things" page is a good laugh.

http://www.bangkokbob.net/strange.htm

This ad from Phuket Gazette magazine was a classic:

BARGIRL FOR SALE.
No key money, just take over payments. Great exterior condition. Attitude may need slight adjustment. Will cook if hungry. Will clean for jewellery. Expert in hand phone operation, sofa management and budget mishandling. Genuine reason for sale - owner bankrupt! Call now, this offer won't last.

webmaster says:

Andy: I said “may have indirectly insulted the King” key word "may." It make no different what you or I think or how we personally see it, but it means a lot as how the Thais see it. I was simply pointing out to how it was related to me by many people including some Thais. I happen to agree with it. Galt has dug his own grave, now it is just the wait for the executioner literally.

Webmaster@davetheravebangkok.com

Islander says:

This Dave character is a bar manager and yet he uploads pictures of bargirls all over his site. What is that all about? Sounds like he has zero respect for the girls. Maybe he should put his own mugshot up there for all to see? That will come back to bite him.

In 6 months time people will be saying "Dave The Who?"

get real.. says:

Funny, I've thought for a while now that Dave the Rave was filling Stickmans hole. Guess they are finally out of the closet about it..

Hrm.. That was a joke. I think all of you are sad. Actually, pethetic is more accurate. So quick to buy into whatever you percieve as the new propaganda and instantly trashing the last propaganda fad.. I give credit to all of the above. Stickman, NotStickman, MangoSauce, etc.. They all get a thumbs up in my book. Why you may ask? Gee.. Well, for the more dense of you that still have not caught on allow me to explain. You see, this is about traffic and add sales. All of these guys are most likely friends and just talk shit to get all of you to read it, generate traffic, which creates worth for add space. So while you are off bitching about who has the best site and such, your traffic is buying their drinks. My advise, get a life, turn off your computer and go check out some spots on your own. You guys are like a bunch of girls fighting over a dick.

The only ones that i have any respect for are the ones that are making some coin off of their websites.. Way to go Stick, Dave, Dean.. You have been a success at rounding up the stupid masses and making some money off of them. For this, I consider you all to have succeeded. Keep the sexually repressed, alcoholic, depressed sex-pats fed with some shit to read and make your money.

Grunt says:

I wasnt aware posting pictures of girls was in bad taste.

I sure enjoyed them.

TANAI KWAI says:

I don't care for this "webmaster" fellow. He is painfully inarticulate and within a biscuit throw of being a retard. His "fictitious names" comment, which I will not dignify by quoting, is moronic and astonishingly hypocritical. And to bring up HRH in this context betrays an utter lack of common sense and propriety.

I humbly but firmly request that he fuck off and cease the onslaught of heavyhanded promotion for his wonderful site. Dave the Rave had his day in the sun and if people want to read his material they know where to find it.

You are offending David's generosity.

Michael says:

I see stickboybangkok mentioned again.

To clear up the guesswork surrounding the site stickboybangkok was registered June 06 with the idea of opening a forum simillar to http://www.schoocher.com/forum/index.php - i never got around to doing it.

When the issues with notstick began i contacted stick and asked about using his content though I withdrew that request as I had a different idea.

In the short term I decided to cash in on a domain name that was doing nothing. Simple as that. Placed a few ads and I made a few quid.

When stickboybangkok launches on Dec 27th it will be part of a virtual treasure hunt. It won't be a weekly or have submissions, no blog.

As for the son of stick babble, well it's against the TOS of adsense to display their ads on an empty page. I had to write something. Nothing more, nothing less.

Anyway stickboy is a good looking guy. Looks nothing like his old man. Take a look, stickboy's photo is online.

And to close, thanks to Mangosauce for all the visitors the ads here have sent me.

Eniac says:

The inarticulate 'webmaster' should leave the explanations to Dave the Rave and concentrate on ... er ... whatever it is he does.

Islander says:

I'd hasted a guess that Dave The Rave and Webmaster are the same person. Surely no-one would pay someone to design a site that looks like that?

Strap says:

Dave The Rave,
You must agree with the rest of the people here, Dont let your webmaster comment on your site for you.I understand he is trying to help with some of the issues your facing but it would be much better to get info about YOUR site straight from you. Remember we are talking about your weekly nightlife info,you dont want people to think that some web designer that Your paying to build and maintain Your site is involved past the posting of Your pages. I have read your reviews since they began,even the older nightlife by montly reviews you did in the past, there was some good info on most of them , Keep going after the real info and you will be fine.

Cheers

OJ says:

Why oh why is there so much webmaster bashing going on at the moment?

Its like the comicbook guy from the Simpsons going "worst Thailand nightlife review EVER".

Come on guys. Get out of your parents basements and live a little... :-)

Chuck says:

"Why oh why is there so much webmaster bashing going on at the moment?'

It's a form of inbreeding. Taken to it's logical extension one disappears up one's own arsehole.

Grunt says:

OJ brings up a damn good point. Id like to see as many varied, genuine perspectives as opposed to dicer and her google/meth backed blatherings.

Lets put it all into the mix and let guys make up their own minds. Id like to see every western man "get out of their parents basement" too. But there is a strong vested interest among the powers that be to keep them there, evermore.

David here at MS strikes me more as the Cheshire Cat, more interested in enigma then shit slinging. Thats why this site used to be so cool.

Maybe thats why all these trolls have appeared as if from nowhere. Turn the place into a snooze-fest, thus torching any casually interested passer-by to conclude that if the LOS is filled with raging asshats like dicer and her ilk, its best to stay in the basement if only to avoid the ceaseless alpha-male/dog-pack references.

Dean Barrett says:

William Mahanakorn says I cannot write my way out of a paper bag and he goes on to disparage Kingdom of Make-Believe, one of my novels on Thailand. Fair enough, he is entitled to his opinion and I thank him for using his own name. When a writer writes in different genres as I do - poetry, fiction, theater, travel, humor, detective - no one will like everything I write. Such is life. I hope William will not be discouraged from trying one or two more of my titles before giving up on me. But, meanwhile, here are a few more opinions on Kingdom of Make-Believe. I hope you'll read it yourself and make up your own mind.

A tantalizing taste of a culture, worlds apart from our own. Dean Barrett paints a sharp, clear picture of the reality of life. An excellent account of one man’s struggle to find the truth in his existence. Very Highly Recommended.”
- Under the Covers Book Review

An absolutely astounding novel. Its depth and layers of perception will have you fascinated from start to finish...Highly entertaining!”
- Buzz Review News

Kingdom of Make-Believe is an exciting thriller that paints a picture of Thailand much different from that of The King and I. The story line is filled with non-stop action, graphic details of the country, and an intriguing allure that will hook readers of exotic thrillers....Very Highly Recommended.”
- BookBrowser.com

Barrett spins a tightly packed tale that is part murder mystery, part midlife-crisis love story and part travelogue, with vibrant and seductive Thailand in a leading role. This mystery would be of particular interest to aficionados of Asian culture and lore, especially those who have visited Thailand. It’s a very quick read that keeps the reader continually guessing at the next plot twist.
- Today’s Librarian

A funny and wise and well written book. It is full of startling, offbeat scenes that burn into your consciousness. In subtle and unexpected ways, Kingdom of Make-Believe describes the exotic and the grotesque, the beauty and the mystery, the danger and the flamboyance when life in Thailand had a steamy and darker edge.”
Tom Chapman, Editor, Sawasdee magazine

A poignant and perceptive novel describing the passions unleashed when West meets East. Kingdom of Make-Believe is written with sensitivity and style by a writer who has a clear understanding of both worlds.”
- John Hoskin, author, The Mekong

Kingdom of Make-Believe captures a slice of Thailand as it really is -- and was. The novel could only have been written by one who has experienced the Kingdom – and felt the pangs of seeing its magic mirrors crack and shatter.”
- Denis Gray, Chief of Bureau, AP, Bangkok

- An exciting thriller...Anyone who takes pleasure in visiting a different lifestyle should read this reverent but genuine portrayal of another world. A gripping mystery documenting Dean Barrett as a writer in full possession of his craft.”
- The Midwest Book Review

Sharp, often poetic and pleasantly twisted, Kingdom of Make-Believe is a tautly-written fictional tour of Thailand....Author Dean Barrett has woven a compelling and believable tale about a country he knows well....Barrett’s prose is spare, but his images are rich: a winning combination....His obvious intimate knowledge of Thailand combined with a very considerable writing talent make Kingdom of Make-Believe a tough book to put down.”
- January Magazine

Barrett is a powerful storyteller who has a feeling for language that’s lacking in many contemporary novels. His dialog is a pleasure to read, and his descriptions from the nightlife in Bangkok to the Thai countryside are vivid.”
- Laughing Bear Newsletter

Barrett has a gift for taking us into cultures worlds apart from our own, displaying a reverence for their exotic and grotesque as well as their beauty and history....”
- The Poisoned Pen

A thrilling page-turner. Barrett brilliantly evokes the suffocating fumes of Bangkok traffic, the nauseating morning-after stench of alcohol and smoke in its go-go bars, as well as the lurid lies and deception of washed-up expat lowlifes in Thailand. God, I miss that place!”
- Stuart Lloyd, author, Hardship Posting

I've just completed my third trip to Thailand this year, and already recognize a trend: each trip, I buy more and more books to take back to the States. This gets me through the months until I return, and I've become a tireless fan of Bangkok fiction.
I've just finished "Kingdom of Make-Believe", and it's the best of the bunch, by far. There are many passages I could point to that were painterly in their descriptive qualities, but perhaps the description of Suntaree's face at the top of page 53 is my favorite. The sad thing about the book? It ended, while I desperately wanted to live with the characters a little while longer. Thanks for a book that still lingers.
- Geoff Alexander, Director
Academic Film Archive of North America

“Interesting and exotic and the descriptions are sometimes beautiful. I would have to say it is one of the best I’ve read on a Southeast Asian country. A fine read.”
Travelreviewbooks.com

Dave The Rave says:

Great point by Dean Barrett. Just look at all the book reviews. If Dean Barrett could not write why has he sold so many books, earned many reviews and Dean runs a popular website. People are entitled to their opinion but the hostility shown on threads like this is just pointless. People do not have to read Dean Barrett, Stickman or Dave The Rave, or anything they do not wish to read. However, when readers words get hostile us writers do not have to listen to babble from the padded cell.

lee says:

I read as much info on the net as I can about LOS, and if I learn even one useful thing each time it was worth the effort. The sites are free and I admire people for taking the time and effort to keep us informed.After reading the comments posted here I really dont know why Dave, Stick or Dean even bother. The hostility and negativity of the readers is quite sad, and I really do feel sorry for most of these guys. They must have very pathetic lives to lash out with so much hostility at receiving free info.I casually asked a friend the other day outside my bangkok apartment why any of these guys would act like this. His reply was "these are the guys stuck whacking their pole back in farangland." I hope I never have to return

Dave The Rave says:

Thanks Lee, nice to have some civil conversation. People that actually know Dean Barrett, Stickman and me, know we are decent guys. There seems no lack of judgemental hypocrits that hide behide a key board handle. If they are so great where is their website? I agree with your comments and I do listen to criticism. However, hostile abuse serves no purpose - like a good friend said to me don't listen to babble from the padded cell. I love that line!

I believe in teamwork on the net and I am returning the gesture to Mango Sauce by dropping David a return link in "Night Fever" on December 13.

Thanks for those kind words because it can be a thankless task at times, but I never forget that I have a lot more lovers than haters.

Islander says:

Dave,

I would like to see a review of all of the girls in your bar. The selection is so great that I would like to know who is the best and who has special talents, kind of like you can get at the Eden Club. I just know many guys would like this info. Come on, Dave, give us what we want!

What fun research that article would be!

Dave The Rave says:

Lee, you hit the nail on the head when you pointed out that information on the internet that people like Dean and I provide is free. Guys can take it or leave it and it has cost little more than their time. You also pointed out that the real abuse comes from within themselves. Yes, when one is hostile for no apparent reason this type of person must have some mental health issues. Sad but true.

Pleased to say that you do not fall into that hostile category. You keep surfing the net for nightlife information because guys like Dean Barrett, Stickman and me will continue reporting. I don't mind being criticized but I wish the abusive haters would take a long, deep look at themselves.

Nature says:

Come on give the guy a break. It's not an easy thing to start up with a new site. If there is someone who can tell you about whats going on with the night life in LOS it is Dave. The guy has been working in Thailand for a long long time and he knows whats going on. If you are reporting the night life you should at least know that there is a night life in LOS and not just have a second hand information. It dosen't matter if he works in one place he can still write about whats going on. I'm glad that there is someone like Dave that does this for us. Don't like it shut up and find an other place you like

Dave The Rave says:

Hi Nature, I think David (Mango Sauce) will be pleased because finally some sense is being talked on this thread. Well said Nature, you obviously appreciate the FREE information that us webmasters slave away to churn out for the masses. However, I need to get back to reporting the nightlife for you guys and so my time is becoming more precious. I will develope my site for the cool guys and I know they will appreciate it. Give me a bit of time is what I'm asking, because in all fairness Stickman is seven years ahead of me in net time.

John K. says:

I have to agree with the positive posts. The attacks reflect low self esteem by the posters. it is totally unnecessary and the fact that they don’t put their real name speaks volumes. Dave, Stick, Dean keep up the good work. Don’t let the people who need professional help stop you. Anyone who attacks another and can’t provide better has a real problem. Even Keith Summers fell way short of the mark on creativity and has virtually no originally. It seems all he can do is try to pick apart stickman with the emphases on the word “try.” For a person to try to put another person down like Keith tried suggests he has serious mental health issues.

Dave great stuff on Thai face and tips tips in your Thai way section. A lot of useful things I did not know. Keep it coming.

JJ says:

"I will develope my site for the cool guys and I know they will appreciate it".

Jeeeez, who are these "cool guys"? The ones that need handholding from the airport, to the Nana Hotel, to NEP and back?

It would be so very entertaining to see a line-up of all these super cool guys, like straight out of Baywatch or something...

Sorry TK, I guess this is not really what you asked for, but I will try again later, OK?

Nice One Dave says:

A few reprisals from his old site but not criticising the bloke. Many people won't have read the old stuff anyway.

http://www.thailand-nightlife.net/review_news/

I guess we can expect to see Dave The Rave in many more venues from now on... but I suspect Angel Witch will feature broadly as thats his main job.

But give him time, he'll have something to tell readers, which is better than nothing at all in my book.

Nampla says:

Be of good cheer Dave the Rave and keep up the good work. The Keith Summers'types of this world are clearly suffering from quite severe personality disorders of various sorts so try and ignore them and keep smiling, keep writing and good luck guys much appreciated.

Dave The Rave says:

DaveTheRaveBangkok.com -

Night Fever - Wednesday Weekly

December 13 is now up online...

Eye Candy - updated to Five Pages

Mango Sauce in the spotlight...

http://www.davetheravebangkok.com

Dave The Rave says:

Hey JJ, you made me smile! My following requested that I launch my own website. There are a lot of LOS websites but how many contain real-time reports, accurate and up-to-date news, and a unique view from the inside looking out?

Please read the content before coming to a judgemental conclusion.

As the good book says..."Judge not less ye be judged."

TANAI KWAI says:

"Judge not less [sic] ye be judged."

Yes, kids can be so cruel. I propose that every day here at Mango Sauce be a day of non-judgment.

Still awaiting the program guide for the new show at AngelWitch.

Cen says:

Keep up the good work Dave. Good Luck in the future.

JJ says:

Dave The Rave,

I did not judge your site or its content, merely questioning the coolness of some of the readers of this type of website ("look at me, I managed to purchase a prostitute"! That's real cool)

But as a general observation (not directed at you), many people who call themselves "authors" or "writers" and publish on the internet seem to be extremly sensitive to any feedback that is not praising their "talent".

Look at thailandstories.com as a good example, all the "writers" pat each others back, regardless of the real quality. Some do have some talent, but not many.

Guys like David and Dana stand out from the rest as creative and fun, with a very good command of the written word.

Rant over!

William Mahanakorn says:

Well, it looks like my book review struck some strung-out nerves. Beating the pavements of Patpong, Nana and Cowboy really make one overly sensitive, I suppose. Either that or the Singha-Xanax combo. My only regret is having read the book (Kingdom of Make Believe) in the first place -- five hours of my life never to be returned. As one of the poorly drawn characters in that jackfruit pulp of a story says, "It's all just the Kingdom of Make-Believe anyway." So inaccurate!So, my loss. But I suppose I can just post several equally obnoxious negative reviews and smatter them about Amazon...or have my stateside beer-swilling posse do it for me.

No hard feelings.....Cheers! Oh, and google me.

Insight says:

As far as I remember, Stick claimed to be an IT teacher of sorts. We've also got a so-called "Webmaster" here who supposedly takes care of Dave The Rave's site. For the love of God, any chance you could both bang your heads together and work out how to use many of the free web authoring tools available out there nowadays?

It's really not that difficult to create a site with a much more modern look'n'feel compared to what you've got now. The sites themselves look ready to trade MIDI files. Very retro, if that's what you're aiming for.

As you're probably well aware, the biggest challenge behind building a site is providing fresh content - you don't appear to have a problem there. Spend a few hours learning some of the more recent tools available and you'll make the site a whole lot more approachable. Do it now while the site is relatively in its infancy and you won't have the same problem Stick has with his site now – masses of content that will take an age to update.

Another rant over :)

Dicer says:

("look at me, I managed to purchase a prostitute"! That's real cool)" - JJ

You never "purchase" one, but rent or lease one... semantics. Since everyone is talking about semicolons, double twist irony, "hey my irony, did you see it," and mercinaries erm I thought I wanted to talk about gerunds, but opted for this. As poor what's his face would say, I could not resist.

Dave The Rave says:

Dear William, in defence of Dean Barrett who is a published author of quite a few books, you could show us all your prowess as a writer instead of the meaningless drivel you just posted. Where is your masterpiece in print?

JJ, I know Dana and he has his moments of madness as well as brilliance, and in all fairness David (Mango Sauce) is British tabloid style. You miss the point that us nightlife reviewers provide free information. If you want the elegant word why are you on a site like this?

Prufrock says:

Thanks for saving me five precious hours. I'm not alone in my gratitude.

Borrett's self-published "CamAdLit" efforts are his contribution to world deforestation.
This type of expat on the make Romance Novel is hugely appreciated among the intimate coterie of fawning of Merkin sunshine boys/hotdoggers who regularly circle jerk at Nanapong.com.)
Nanapongers, ruined their own site by turning it into a forum for congratulating each another's holiday conquests of the local beer bar/ paddy princesses.
Chat runs from predictible discussions of drunkenness to how to woo and win comely prostitutes.
When their not doing this they're doing the old "one-up" barstool Bangkok guru thing.
The Thai Police use this site and others to monitor these bars for taxation purposes. IMHO these goofs have done their fair bit to ruin what used to be Bangkok's vibrant nitelife.

Expat communities world-wide have packs of twats like this who purport to represent the rest of us.
Pity they don't understand that cool Thais (of which there are many . . and who chase pussy like the rest of us!) read these sites and shake their heads in disbelief.
I've had to field explanations for this gang of fools and their antics on more than one occasion.
Fortunately the phenomenon easily explained.
"Hey everyone I just got laid and I can tell you where and how" is, here in Bangkok, a particularly pathetic boast.

Borrett is a pillar of this community.

JJ says:

Sorry David, to use your site as a personal "chat" site, which must have zero interest for the others. So my last comment on this topic.

Dave The Rave,

I don't think I missed the point, and I am sure you do fill a need for info of the nightlife. And hey, I don't have any problems with that.

Why am I on a website like this? Well, I live in Thailand, and I like to read about what goes on. OK, I might not like all that I read, and with time, I become more critical and focussed, and sort out the bad stuff. But even here on Mangosauce, you get some very good stuff, but also some very bad. Shall I stop reading because of that?

Dean Barrett says:

I wonder, Prufrock, since you have so much contempt for this world why you are slumming here on Mangosauce. I guess you don't mind reading about Japanese girls farting, after all. Actually, I have had titles published by several publishing companies but what counts is what reviewers both East and West have to say about a book. You've seen some of the reviews of Kingdom of Make-Believe. If you choose not to read it, who cares? Also important are film studios and indies. Unlike yourself, they judge a book by its quality not who published it. That is why Memoirs of a Bangkok Warrior was optioned for film four times and Kingdom of Make-Believe twice.

I realize you are slumming but why not slum using your real name? I fear you come off as just one more pathetic keyboard warrior, Mr. Milktoast borrowing power, safe and snug behind his keyboard, desperately trying to be clever while hunkering down behind his pseudonym and hurling insults, too cowardly to use his real name. I wager any one of the members of Nanapong are worth about ten of you. Not to worry, no one is purporting to represent a supercilious, arrogant fool such as yourself, so no need to explain anything to anyone. But now I'll let you get back to your, um, life.

Chitchat says:

Word on the soi is that Dave the Rave used to be a national champion of some martial arts type thingy. So don't go messing with him in AW or he might throw his microphone at you (or shag your leg).

I'm guessing this could possibly be Kazakhstan we're talking about. I've emailed Borat's secretary and I'm awaiting a reply to see if it's true that Dave used to be the Kazakh National Champion of Horse Throttling.

Grunt says:

"Yes, when one is hostile for no apparent reason this type of person must have some mental health issues. Sad but true." - Dave the Rave

This would explain dicer, but what about Galt?

Prufrock says:

The truth hurts Mr. Make Believe. . . . So by all means, since, as the prolific fictionalist you clearly are, you got right into re-framing mine to suit arguement.
You just make it up as you go along.

Mangosauce rules!
It's a delightful read. I've read it since the beginning.

Dean, I find your fiction readable but dreary, so, much like the stuff on the back of cereal boxes, I don't bother with it.
Your meanderings into geo-political commentary and your hateful pandering to ignorance are another matter.
They're offensive.
They disgust me and legions of like- minded folks here in the West.
You are a hater. That is not patriotism that is bigotry. You are a bigot.
And you do it to garner readership.

Nanapong.com is on life support now because fair and frank commentary was smothered by you and your neo-con clique. Enough said on that one.

In a forum where universality must be applied to all arguments, ANY objections you may have to my comments must be turned onto the facile jingoistic hate mongering diatribes that you spout about real world events about which you know very little.

I'm greatful to David for the opportunity it has afforded me to talk shots as you. I'm imposing, however.
And at this juncture, I am loathe to hog any more space on this topic.

In the interests of common courtesy (TO DAVID and people who come here for the fun) I will stop.
I've made my point to all but the most obtuse.
You may have the last word if you wish.

Dave The Rave says:

Hi Guys, I appreciate that all of you have taken the time to post. I am listening to constructive criticism and I am in the process of arranging a meeting with a web designer. Slowly but surely you will see improvements and will see my site develope.

David of Mango Sauce is a talented writer and has been good to me when I emailed him. Mango Sauce definitely has its niche on the internet.

Liu Bei says:

I'LL PRETEND for one second I had at least a small scrap of dignity to begin with and lower myself to responding to the "Fictitious Names" comments and even quoting them:

Webmastur: "One note to people who put fictitious names like “don’t waist your time”, if you can’t put your real name then what you post is viewed my me and I am sure others as “You know what you are saying is BS and or inaccurately negative and you are afraid to identify yourself because you know it is BS and or inaccurately negative too.”

John K. "I have to agree with the positive posts. The attacks reflect low self esteem by the posters. it is totally unnecessary and the fact that they don’t put their real name speaks volumes."

Or maybe lame, hollywood-b-movie psychoanalysis is more indicative of "low self esteem"?

And do tell, how does ommitting one's real name "speak volumes?" To whom? Aside from those who are so inept at rhetoric that the only tool in their toolbox for evaluating or constructing an argument is the ad hominem fallacy, I mean. Do tell.

By the way John, "K" is really, truly your full last name, isn't it?

And "Webmaster"--family name or given name? Or are you like "Madonna," "Bono" or "String" and only NEED one name?

Liu Bei says:

Dean Barrett aka Mr. Ad Hominem: "I realize you are slumming but why not slum using your real name? I fear you come off as just one more pathetic keyboard warrior, Mr. Milktoast borrowing power, safe and snug behind his keyboard, desperately trying to be clever while hunkering down behind his pseudonym and hurling insults, too cowardly to use his real name."

I realize you aren't addresssing me specifically but let me field the question, if you will: Why not use my real name?

Maybe because I don't make my living writing about hookers and therefore would receive no professional benefit if posts on mango sauce crowded out IMDB when my name was googled?

For you, using your real name when noodling on mangosauce makes sense, for me to follow your lead would be almost as brain-dead as your suggestion that everyone SHOULD.

HOWEVER if you feel I'm being "cowardly" and therefore feel the need to kick my ass just tell me where and when and I'll show up and let you bravely do your thing, hero.

By the way I am not making a value judgment regarding writing about hookers just stating fact.

Mrs Jardine says:

Frankly, I think you're all being a tad silly. The guy's providing a service free of charge. If he was making you pay, fair enough, you've got a right to gripe. But he's not. So if you don't like it, don't log on to it.Simple, really. I mean, how hard can it be?

Mrs Jardine

Prufrock says:

At last Liu Bei, some decent common sense.
Respectfully
Prufrock

TANAI KWAI says:

"That is why Memoirs of a Bangkok Warrior was optioned for film four times and Kingdom of Make-Believe twice."

Please STOP, Mr. Barrett. You must know that such posts do not make potential readers any more fleet of foot on their way to Asia Books. The last thing I need is the opinion of some starving reader working for Tia Carrere's crap production company to identify suitable fiction. Besides, who among us hasn't had something optioned by Hollywood from time to time, am I right? It's rather hard to avoid if you know anything about typing. (I won't embarrass you by suggesting that you list the amount of money you were paid for those options and by whom, as such information is easily verified.)

In Lieu of Bei,

Well put. The last prove-your-manliness-by-using-your-real-name challenge died here a few years back along with the well-intentioned invalid "John U." (another guy who considered calling himself "John [insert initial here]" to be an act of courage). It is traditionally accompanied by taunts laced with pejoratives like "keyboard warrior." Very gay.

(winky)

Pants Elk says:

My first novel was optioned by Warner Bros, and subsequently re-optioned four times. Thanks to those wonderful people, effectively paying me - and well - for doing nothing, I've led a very easy life these past ten years. Very galling for the two wives who like(d) the idea of being married to a writer but find the actuality (called "just sitting in the corner" by the present incumbent) less glamorous than irritating. The "get a job" trope gets a regular airing (recruitment ads helpfully highlighted, etc) but I still haven't felt the need to create my own website, so be thankful.
Anyone else got a movie option tale to tell?

blinky

Pants E.

Liu Bei says:

"Anyone else got a movie option tale to tell?"

No books optioned, but been in a few meetings on the development side, deciding what books to option (NOT leading the meetings btw).

FYI, anyone who thinks being optioned by a studio is a sign that someone wants to make *your* property into a movie, think again. Studio options are insurance policies to keep other studios from making a movie of the property in question. Pants Elk has the right idea--being optioned is an excellent work-avoidance strategy.

Currently making a living as a ghost writer. Yes, I get PAID to keep my real name secret. I guess I'm a Keyboard Warrior (TM)--thus the pen name.

Common Sense says:

Liu Bei,
you make perfect sense in your defense of keeping names secret. I could care less if anyone know's I shag whores and most people who do know me can vouch for that. But at the same time I'm currently searching for a new job. Many employers do google searches of peoples names and check webistes such as MySpace. If my credibility takes a hit because i post under a differnet name, oh fuckin well. Not everyone has money coming in from movie options.

Pants Elk says:

The pen is not only mightier than the sword, "Common Sense", it pays better, too!

(And your nom de plume couldn't be more astutely chosen - I'm sure no-one who knows you would connect it with you).

Thinky

P. Elk

Common Sense says:

Pants Elk,
You bring you pen to a fight and I'll bring my sword. We'll put this little theory of yours to the test. I think in the end you'll find out who really posseses the common sense between us.

And quit trying to mimick Tanai Kwai with your little thinky, blinky, and dinky comments. Can't you find your own identity.

Liu Bei says:

Aside from whether one has reasons to keep one's name secret, apparently it never occurred to these dipshits that person, position and argument are not all the same thing? Given the dazzling reasoning skills they've all displayed, I'd guess not.

William Mahanakorn says:

My remaining question, noms de net aside, is this: What is the difference between a keyboard warrior and a "Bangkok Warrior"? Do you think "Memoirs of a Keyboard Warrior" would be "optioned."

And is it really war-like in the first place to sleep with, fantasize and/or write about poor Thai prostitutes, or drink bottles of beer in red light districts?

Dean Barrett says:

Liu Bei, You misunderstood my point. Pseudonyms can be fun. But when someone attacks someone who is using his real name then it seems to me to be incumbent upon the attacker to at that time use his real name also. I would never attack someone without using my real name but maybe I'm old-fashioned. And whoever said studios often option material mainly so no other studio can grab it is correct. But the option money does help pay the rent, doesn't it?

As for Prufrock, I haven't been on Nanapong for over a year, more like two, but I do remember a real pompous asshole on there and I now realize who Prufrock is. He has a hardon for Nanapong because I got the better of him in a debate. He calls me a bigot and a hater but gives no explanation as to what the hell he's talking about and continues hiding behind his pseudonym while on the attack. "Nanapong.com is on life support now because fair and frank commentary was smothered by you and your neo-con clique. Enough said on that one."

Shucks, first he had to explain to his Thai friends about Nanapong (I guess they were slumming too) and then Prufrock was the victim of some neo-con clique. Poor, Prufrock. It sounds to me like he is the one on life support.

Oh, Liu Pei, thank you for the opportunity to kick your ass. I hang about the Texas Lone Star Saloon. Brawls break out about midnight. As I often use the pseudonym Kuan Kung, it might be fun to have two 3rd century A.D. Chinese allies meet up at the Lone Star. Just ring the bell and I'll know it's you.

Prufrock says:

William Mahankorn. krup

Mr. Bill said: My remaining question, noms de net aside, is this: What is the difference between a keyboard warrior and a "Bangkok Warrior"? Do you think "Memoirs of a Keyboard Warrior" would be "optioned."

I'm proud to say that in one way or another I've optioned every one of Borrett's books . . . some from the moment he piled them onto the shelf at Asia Books and others from the book bags bequeathed to me by de camping night fighters.

Prufrock
(and what's this about an actual debate on that other site?? this is getting hilarious !)

Dean Barrett says:

Do you think "Memoirs of a Keyboard Warrior" would be "optioned."

William, I like that title. Yeah, if done correctly that could make a book. Speaking of book, if I don't get back to writing the sequel to Skytrain to Murder some of you boys won't have any new novel to dump on. C U next thread.

Pants Elk says:

Dean, could you re-post your reviews here please? I think my copies blew over in a freak internet storm.

Prufrock says:

res ipse loquitur (sp?)

Pants Elk says:

I have "ipsa", but I think that speaks for itself.

Prufrock says:

Pants Elk, krup
. . . . . maybe a kind of play-date thing for Common (the swordsman) and boomer (the boomer).

Liu Bei says:

Mr. Barrett:

Fair enough, looked at it again. You were clearly responding to remarks made specifically about you and your body of work, not fakie names in general.

In a debate about, say, the merits of evolutionary psychology, my real name, or whether I happen to be wearing a clown suit and codpiece, are irrelevant to my argument.

The situation you're responding to is more like me getting an anonymous SMS telling me I shouldn't write travel articles because they can see me and know I write naked.

Do I get it yet, or have I lost the plot again?

Nonetheless you still have my consent to opening a can of ass-whup on me. One question though--is this bar big enough for our entire armies? Where do we put the horsies?

AngelWitch BKK says:

Hey Dave ,
It seems even the Great Galt ( Keith ) has a few things to say about your site.Keep up the good work.....
It might pay off one day.

Chuck says:

Will David take the bait? Sound of popcorn being broken out.

Sparky says:

...and the Great Galt has renamed your website Mangosquash. Surely not an intentional witticism.

MrClis says:

Just visited the 'Dave the Rave' site for the first time.
Oh dear.
I do hate it when people use exclamation marks to jolly the reader along.
At least Stickman could write.

Kasman says:

Webmaster@davetherave

Your excuses for a poor website are beginning to annoy me. You are no webmaster at all, not even a second rate one.

Dave appears to have some viable content that is all being overshadowed by your pathetic attempt to get it online in the form of a website

I dont want to hear any more of your pathetic excuses, because it is simple, extremely simple to design a website and get the content on there quickly.

No webmaster in their right mind would throw up this kind of horse shit for any reason and call themselve a webmaster.

Your idiotic attempt at a website is what is costing time and effort trying to update that horseshit.

Ever heard of PHP?

I ran into the a guy at gullivers working on www.visualthailand.com and he told me that website was made in one day

So look at that then look at your pathetic piece of shit

Dave the Rave could top the leader board if he dumped you and got someone that knew how to do a real website

Stick, Galt and now you really ought to get together and buy a Website for Dummies book and get reading.

Now enough of the excuses get to work fixing that pathetic site

Prufrock says:

Kasman
THAT f*ckin' *rocked*
Djathink they're doin' on purpose to gluv up with the market ;-?
Naaaaaaw
Just as there are some gog-go tarts who shoulda never . . . (Yeah, f*ck it.)

gazza says:

Hey Dave

I see Galt has started laying into you now-what a psycho

TANAI KWAI says:

Galt is an ass. I suppose you could respond to his recent round of harebrained comments but he's so pitiful it's hardly sporting.

I suppose if anybody can make him entertaining you can.

Prufrock says:

Just doesn't get it, does he.
That, ah, party-photo with all his friends' backs turned away from his phone cam was particularly telling.

Gee, What's it like to be flirted at by Mr. Galt?
Does it involve after-market dignal lights?
Enquiring Thai women want to know!

Bangkok Bad Boy says:

Prufrock, Galt's photo had me in stitches. "Look how popular I am! Here is a photograph of a number of people turning their backs on me!"

I see Stickman has gone completely insane too, claiming that we farangs are now desperately wishing Thaksin was still in power - I almost fell off my chair when I read that!

http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/
BangkokChristmas/BangkokChristmas.htm

More interesting is the new (currently unclickable) menu on that page, showing presumably a glimpse of what's to come on the new Stickman site.

The presence of both "Stickman Sunday" and "Stickman Wednesday" is interesting - two newsletters a week? Or will Dave The Rave's Wednesday newsletter move onto Stick's site?

Dana gets his own section, obviously!

ozricdan says:

just a short question.......

why do most of the thailand sites about nightlife etc, look so bad, i mean stickmans was pretty shit to look at but it didnt have anything some others i have seen. i mean day-glow pink fonts with a flourescent green background and thats just a few.

what the fuck is going on, at least davids webmaster knows what he or she is doing.

Chitchat says:

Just read the new column and as predicted it's in danger of becoming awash with Angel Witch stories.

Strange how Rainbow also gets glowing reports. Maybe it's because the prisoner in paradise is actually a prisoner in his own mind as he's married to this Ann character he keeps hinting is a great mamasan. I've no doubt she is, but a pattern is already starting to emerge that the column might not be able to shake off in good time.

Still better than nothing to read I suppose.

Dave The Rave says:

Chitchat, why deprive people about knowing what goes on behind the scenes in go-go bars? And it would be silly not to talk about the best Show Bar in Thailand wouldn't it? Angelwitch is packed (at Showtime) every night as are the Rainbow Bars, so they must be doing a lot right. Am I supposed to write about some shithole that nobody would be seen dead in?

Dave The Rave says:

I have just modified my website with a modern design that is user-friendly. Please check out my new website...

www.DaveTheRaveBangkok.com

Chitchat says:

So why not write about the shitholes as you call them and then maybe they will do something about it after being named and shamed and create a better nightlife for everyone. Everyone knows that Angel Witch and Rainbows are packed everynight as you tell them everyweek.

But your site will get a bit boring if thats all you ever write about don't you think. Not being critical but I think you need a balanced view of all bars otherwise your site will become the home of the AW/Rainbow weekly newsletter.

Dave The Rave says:

Perhaps you are not seeing what others are seeing and that is a wide range of venues that I write about. I even cover Pattaya, Soi Cowboy and other areas. In fact when I started writing in November I deliberately didn't mention Angelwitch. Anyway it is a free service so take it or leave it, but I mostly receive a lot of compliments for my efforts.

Chitchat says:

I'll leave it thanks. I know that you can't criticise other bars or else the owners will be into your bosses like no-ones business so I guess you can't win. Good luck anyway with the weekly newsletter.

Dave The Rave says:

OK Chitchat,

I will give it my best shot, so far so good. Guys do like the modified site and the fact that somebody with knowledge of the nightlife is writing a bout it. You can't please everybody but most of my readers seem happy. I hope you continue to have a read and a look at the photo gallery. Cheers!

Dave The Rave says:

NEW Photo Gallery - Check out the eye candy guys!

http://www.davetheravebangkok.com

Dave The Rave says:

Water Warfare Warning - Songkran starts early TODAY APRIL 12 so heed the warning!

Bangkok - Water Warfare from April 12 until April 15

Pattaya - Water Warfare from April 12 April until 19

Medical specialists warn that from the filthy water we can become infected with typhoid.

For a full report please read my Wednesday Weekly - Night Fever... Cheers!

http://www.davetheravebangkok.com/articles/
apr11-2007.html

Dave The Rave says:

Hello David (Mr Mango Sauce),

Great to see you back up to full speed and with a modified look to your home page too. Your articles are always excellently written. As a fellow Englishman, I think the humour is bloody hilarious mate!

www.DaveTheRaveBangkok.com

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Hi Dave The Rave

This is probably the right time to give you an online pat on the back for your own site's recent makeover.

Regards
David

Dave The Rave says:

Hello David,

I will be modifying my website even further, but I am currently waiting for my webmaster to integrate a blog onto my website. I will be in touch via email soon. Cheers!