Anti-farang activist resurfaces as cub reporter

Randy says:

What I want to know is, does she take it up the shitter?

Cheers.

Daniel says:

I'm busy working so I haven't read the whole article yet, but is that a ladyboy?

Looks like an ugly ladyboy to me.

Mr Shifter says:

Now, that's why I like mangosauce.com. Succinct, direct, to the point. Priceless.

bangkokram says:

Looks like a Katoey to me! Look at her "tach". Thats not acne, its a shaving rash.

Always wondered what happened to this racist, twisted sad bitch? Good detective work David.

Andy says:

She's not all that good looking, but she really looks hawt with all that shit around her yap.
Lucky Mr Mortensen obviously gets to do "hot lunches" and "ass to mouth" with our naughty, xenophobic little minx! Woohoo!
Either that, or Ms Busybody adds yet another engagement to her already frenetic dance-card with "glory-hole" duties at the local public toilets.
Yep! She's a modern cosmopolitan lass alright. You go, girl!

Geoff says:

All the while, I had been so proud of my status as a Gig and now come to find out I am actually lower than a mia noi.
From now on I am going to demand some compensation! Thanks Khun Netchanok, I feel empowered.

concerned citizen says:

great case work, its good to know someone is keeping the net safe from wannabe-hiso haters. we just need to get her out of print now.

tracy says:

Who's gonna clipe on her?

Matt Crook says:

I have to meet this girl. Give me a few days.

Mr Happy says:

Oh no my secret hopes to become a "real" boyfriend are out!!

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

I've never shagged a Thai reporter.

And l don't think l ever will.

Thaxo.

Marky Mark says:

If you contact this woman you will find that she is actually the victim of blackmail. Despite what you believe, the original farangs.org was not published by her, but by an ex-boyfriend with serious issues. I'd get in contact with her to verify parts of the story otherwise you might find yourself in a spot of bother having defamed an innocent Thai woman.

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Hi Marky Mark (a.k.a. Khun Netchanok?)

Nice try... but your "with one bound she was free" explanation doesn't hold water.

Read the previous postings first and you'll be left in absolutely no doubt that it would be impossible for an "ex-boyfriend with serious issues" to fabricate the various twists and turns of this complex story.

Peter Mortensen is certainly a dickhead but he's not a criminal genius.

However, if Khun Netchanok would like to set the record straight in any respect, she's more than welcome to post a comment here.

She's got a lot of explaining to do, to put it mildly.

Regards
David

migrant says:

Remind me to not piss off Mango Sauce!! (of course I like it too much to do that)

ben says:

i would like to see her pole axed by a 14 inch lump of wood anally !!

bkkmadness says:

Mangosauce turns in another great piece!

Pattay Peter says:

David:

Give her a break. She's obviously in denial about her "Thai lust for farang monster-cock" as you put it in 2004. Judging by her chin, i'd say any girl who's up for a good ass munching is ok in my book.

Miss Netchanok, you can sample my deep fried spicy mushroom any time you want, i guarantee it won't spoil your night.

Sparky says:

Yep, definitely a katoey. My first impression without reading on. And you know what they say: if in doubt, yes it is. Shame there wasn't enough dosh left for a nose job too.

Matt Crook says:

To be honest, she just seems like a young girl who is a bit confused about her place in the world. I'd like to meet her to hear her side of things first. It's all rather bizarre.

SPQR_US says:

You know I actually thought she looked like a Katoey in "her" old Yahoo profile.

It seems obvious about what her boyfriend fears being honest about...

Mr Thaksin, BKKchat.org says:

l will hold judgement until l see her box.

Thaxo.

Pants Elk says:

Su-re, Matt. Just as Bonnie Erbe is a mature woman who is a "bit confused about her place in the world."
I'm sure you could de-confuse both of them with a kind word and, you know, just *listening*?

Bob says:

Cant NIGEL take her on board and get rid of her facial rash with a beneficial full facial ?

Anonymous says:

Nice work David,

Once again timeless thoughts cast in marble prose. Good work!

Any way you could play cupid and introduce Khun Netchanok with a certain Mr Keith "The Virgin Hunter" Summers? I heard from credible sources that he is in fact single.

Dan says:

I corresponded with Net for a while last year about the "Thai woman rep" situation. I told her that the "farung man" doesn't affect the Thai lady's reputation because he's not a Thai woman, but the hundreds of thousands of Thai prostitutes do because they ARE Thai women. Period, end of story.

chris says:

shes a ladyboy,and please dont ask me how i know that.

Daniel says:

Well, I read the piece and the comments and obviously I'm not alone in my suspicions.

I'd say the 2nd pic is evidence alone to convict, for most who live in Thailand. That's a katoy.

She writes claiming to be a man and a woman. Why? Because she is both.

Dizz says:

It's the old twist of jealousy- those
who live happy are usually of tolerant
persuasion, while those of crust and
crud treat others to their bile
observations.
Instead of cliche, for example, I
often found cheerleaders, the top
of poplularity, to be nice and warm
to most of us generally.
The picture you display of this fish
reeks of pimples and sap appearance.
I would predict her smell to be moldy
and sour.
Looking forward to future life in
Chiang Dao,
---Dizz
---Dizz

Bose says:

"I'd like to meet her to hear her side of things first."

Matt, I feel she wont be able to carry on any intelligent conversation like that. Only extremely fickle & unhappy people follow such strong morales like she expressed in her Yahoo profile.

Young girls get frustrated if people call them a "toottoo", and I am sure many of her friends should have called her that long before you all did in MS. Her website was an outlet for all that frustration & insecurity.

About her boyfriend, I doubt if they had any healthy sex relationship ever. A girl is such cranky and idealistic only when she has an extended PMS, or her boyfriend is not interested in bed with her for a very long period of time.

jimmyboy says:

Wouldnt mind pumping hot sperm into it s bong eye.

Johnny Tokyo says:

Nice work.
Another angle?

Poor Netchanok looks like the dogs-body type of schoolmate that all the really hot Black & Whites must include in any of those prime-time pussy posses we see patrolling Bkk's campuses, the BTS and the bigger Hi-So shopping complexes in their short/slitted skirts and/or peek-a-boo blouses.

These Alpha chicks routinely conscript third-rate skanks like Netchanok to signal interest,'pass notes', and field inquiries from besotted packs of silly, giggling Thai schoolboys. (Just to make sure that everyone keeps their place in this-here food chain.)

In the case of the odd farang/Thai liaison, the Netchanok servant girl will serve to "bodyguard" the luscious Alpha who in turn deigns to treat her as a friend for the duration of the assignment. . . . . only as long as she has to. Never longer and never reciprocated.
(Mai mii wehlah, honey, sorry. A reversal of our traditional master/servant role? Are fucking mad? Have you lost your sakdinah, or something?)

This Thai version of the "Happy Days" courtship ritual can be seen playing out anywhere young Thais assemble to demonstrate to one another just how much debt their parents will allow them to pile onto the family's credit cards.

Further background needed? As an artifact of these rituals, a girl's latest mobile phone upgrade or (males) the latest notebook trick runs a close second to peg the "buy-in" into these love games.

(Should Mom or Dad default on the credit card or go bankrupt - no problem. The debt will be promptly shifted into an NPL account at the bank and then onto the backs of all Thai working folk who slave away to carry this whole shit-wagon along) Much the same way we do things in the west ;-)- digression

Customary sniffing grounds?
Langsuan Starbucks, Siam Discovery, Paragon, True Internet cafes.
You get the picture.

Innocent enough.

It's when a skanky hand-maiden like Netchanok eventually finds herself "ever the bride's maid" one too many times that things go a little sideways here.
It may be after the ever-acquisitive Alpha B&W gets back to her posse from yet another session of the giggly Thai shopping-as-mating ritual or, even more tantilizing, the flushed young tart is prattling on to everyone who'll listen the morning after about getting her moist fanny thoroughly reemed out by one of our very own front-line internet commandos.
(Thai men don't like seafood. Thai women, after a decade on the internet, tease them openly about their aversion to sushi! Go for it, chaps. (use a shrimp instead of a banana next time Zoloft-breath ;-) -another digression, sorry - a lot of those today

***sigh***

Anyways.

Enter; a peckerhead like Mortensen. . . just a cheap cunt, only too willing to cruise the third string support staff serving this B&W Alpha posse for some free, desparate but decidedly third-rate pussy.

Netchanok, poor skank.
She's ripe for a (got-myself-a-good-Thai-girl nyaa,-nyaa-nyaa) peckerhead like Mortensen to shag for free. He doesn't even hafta come up with any of the big-time gifts the Alphas routinely score.
Netchanok gets her trophy farang.
Mortensen gets his key to the Ladies Locker Room

Once Netchanok's hooked up with Mortensen and then gone public with a comparison of her pathetic GTG version of sluttishness with the Alphas, they quickly grow bored of her diminished capacity as servant and handmaiden.
They skillfully abandon her to Mortensen.

Mortensen, eager to maintain Netchanok's membership in the Alpha room, Mortensen retains an interest in the Alpha posse and since the dumb bitch has occasionaly entertained the new slime-wad with tales of a squealing Siriporn's Hi-So mom arriving home early one afternoon from a Gaysorn shopping spree and catching the luscious Siriporn naked in the poolhouse with Marcel's tongue buried halfway up her arse, Mortensen never quite loses touch with Netchanok's erstwhile bevy of Alpha playmates.

Always on guard for Thai women and their unfairly besmirched reputations, he re-invents for her this new role as defender of ALL Thai womanhood.

Helpful as ever he's available to the posse as linguistic backup.
He eventually scores a fringe player. He dumps.

Poor Netchanok. Used again. Will she ever learn?

But now, as it stands, there really is no turning back now is there?
Like her "work" history re: Bkkchat and Bkk-hate, Netchanok's libertine chocolate shagging habit was now really "out there". (an umpetego or "fried egg rash" perhaps? covered in a cafe-au-lait foundation makeup??)

A rare form of "The Chocolate Letter"?

Mercy and forbearance, as Khun Netchanok well knows, if not unheard of, are qualities that evidently have little currency here.

But, if nothing else, Netchanok was always only in it for a good cause, was she not? (Bitlike another, Prozac-addled loser we all know, n'est-ce pas?)

It's an English speaking world on the web. Netchanok gets to wear The Chocolate Letter for while I'm afraid.

She tried her hand at dishing it out. Let's see how good she is at taking it.

(Is there a Thai translation for that?)

Pants Elk says:

"She's a ladyboy, and please don't ask me how I know that."

How do you know that, Chris?

chris says:

cause my friends into that and he told me he knows her/him ,thast the truth aswell.pics to follow watch this space.

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Chris

This sounds like a wind up. I'd certainly be interested in seeing your pics but I've got a feeling that they won't be dropping into my inbox anytime soon.

Regards
David

Dicer says:

This tart is rather silly.... she's got that nasty Pitchit snootiness about her...ten minutes with Attila and she'd be deprogramed to behave or tamed into drooling on her pink comic book.... if you want a real anti farang fodder provider to Thais this guy is the man...coated with a "buddhist" facade of course....

http://www.sulak-sivaraksa.org/web/sulak2.php

"any healthy sex relationship ever" - Boss

wrong country I'd say, sex in Thailand is like playing tennis without the gear or ground. Freud obviously didnt travel to LOS.

http://www.amazon.com/Sex-Sublimation-
Tennis-Secret-Writings/dp/0894809121

"Looking forward to future life in Chiang Dao" - Dizz

I am compelled to give Dizz a bit of tolerable fishsauce. Chiang Dao is fine for those who've had enough of northerners cheating and stealing from them or serving them dollops of sneers. Also the prevalent hill people...the Tai Yai and Lisu are as close as you can get to normal people in that parts of Thailand where locals are already getting fed up with waddling Hyperboreans. But once you arrive you'll find out that a lot of the cute Chin looking tarts flock south to Rachada's fish bawls for the Jap and Korean diddle punters. Now when Central Thais go up north, they sneer and make faces at the locals (and locals sneer back) and pretend they'dnt touch the hill girls, in bkk the same tarts induce a flood of drool.... and what are the possibilities if you ignore all and will your own thing?

Wull..life in Chiang Dao or beyond then becomes the kind of life punctuated with a trip up to mindlessness, which motivated Gregor Samsa...If he'd been here, instead of a metamorphosis he'd have ODed on bug poison. When the annual cool season pilgrimage to Chiang Mai and Chiang Rai starts, Gregor would probably rent a pick up truck with a canvas, his litters strewn in the back beneath the canvas on straw mats and munching bags of chopped fruit in chilli...maybe the girls would wear polka dot boxer shorts....unseeing and unobserving the Samsa family would stumble in the Chiang Dao caves and camp further east at the heavenly Pu Chi Fa.... a mountain peak in Chiang Rai with a view point on top of a hill overlooking Lao and a sea of mist at sunrise.

Years ago I did an xmas drive around the north with a tart and a Brit mate. The tart insisted that we drive up to Pu Chi Fa, which to her was the best place in the world she announced a bit like the educated bargirls who cheerily say Switzerland when asked which foreign country they want to go to. Anway we drove up to humour her. On arrival we were confronted by Centrals in their pickup trucks camped shoulder to shoulder in a tiny spot with the sheer vast mountain range behind them as if there was a lack of suitable camping space..... almost all had a tent extended from each pickup.... They'd already started burning food and rubbish... nobody taught these people mulching?

We had a few beers and left for Chiang Kong to find suitable accommodation and thereon teased the tart endlessly about it ... Pu Chi Fa, the ideal Thai holiday place! ... it even got more surreal before we left. Right at the top of the mountain they've built a heliport for Royalty but no house to stay at..... at a closer inspection some villager told us that it was built a while back for a single trip and they've maintained it ever since hoping someone, anyone would visit..... probably that sardonic Kazakh bloke called Steve.

SlowJoeNY says:

Sad to say but yes, she is a katoey.
Picked her up one night when I was drunk.
The masculine face, broad shoulders and
fact that she is the original Miss Tiny
Tits should have been a dead give away.
But as I said, I was drunk. Down below
she was unaltered. Still had a small
package. My brother said "You paid for
it. You do it." So I took his advice.
Looking back, I really wish I hadn't.

[To be taken with a pinch of salt, I think - David]

Looper says:

Digital ratio can be a sneaky way to finger a ladyboy. If you can get close enough, have a look at their hands. Most women naturally have their index finger longer than their fourth finger. In men the fourth finger is naturally longer than the index finger. The distribution overlap can make this not entirely reliable but it is generally true.

If you look at the 2nd photo of Ms Netchanok you can see that her 4th finger appears almost as long as her middle finger which means it is almost certainly longer than her (out of shot) index finger - so chances are she is packing a trouser python.

Pants Elk says:

SlowJoeNY's comment tells us much more about his own fantasies (too much, really) than it does about Netchanok Klinkesorn's chromosome count.
"Netchanok Klinkesorn" is an anagram of "likes Chink horny cock".

Matt Crook says:

I did a bit of digging. She is certainly not a katoey. She is also not a photographer (she's an intern writer who had to take a picture) and she didn't write the story in question, she just researched part of it, or so I'm told. By all accounts she's well liked, so perhaps she's a reformed character and shouldn't be excessively slandered on the net.

Saying that, however, some of the stuff she has done in the past is pretty out there, but then so are some of the comments being left here, so I guess that might make everyone even.

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Good work, Matt.

All we need now is a statement from the lady herself - or, better still, an apology.

Regards
David

Dick Renegade says:

Yikes, she's scary.

Dizz says:

D:

Lying in the ICU after the doc rammed
a wire up my groin to unblock some
100% wall of shit plaque, I got thinking
of giving up my dreary day job and return to Thailand where last summer
I fell into a sweet torch and
erotically exciting scene of BKK and
Krabi. Also, floating in the warm water
of the sea in front of Railly Beach
has not left my mind.
Chiang Dao I have never visited but
have you ever fallen in love with a
picture? If so, you understand when
I saw one of Chiang Dao. In between
a row of mountains I see my place,
my spot.
I shall also travel back to Krabi and
her mistress beachs but I feel the pull
of the mountains.
Also, of course, the faces of the remembered Thai female feline eyes
are a draw.
Thanx though D. for the thoughts on
de place. Whatever criticisms of you,
or blessings upon you, I think your
voice is original and descriptive and,
damn the negatives, you are a f...ing
good writer.
I am now in California and a return to
the Kingdom is forever upon me. If my
heart doesn't explode before summer I
hope to call action to my alive chamber
and dive into the picture of Chiang Dao
and come out between its mountains, and
feel for real its bird sounds, and morning fog, and dirt beneath my slippers as I trek up its trails.
Peace to all peaceful souls.
---Dizz

Dizz says:

P.S. (Course D. is for Dicer though
I am also a fan of the writings of
Dana.) You never know where either
writer is headed. I believe that's
called original.

---Dizz

Statler & Waldorf says:

of course she is no katoey. i know her. she is quite a nice girl who has nothing against foreigners. this story is just poorly investigated. she is not behind farangs.org - marky mark already said it right. her ex is crazy, no he is actually more than crazy. he used her photo and her geocities etc accounts. no, he is not just a simple dickhead, he is also working as a software developer for an electronics company in california, so he is not an idiot. yes, the story is very complex and mangosauce totally messed it up. bravo! this is worse than the banana girl, stick's photo on the web and galt's call to the school altogether. it is unintentional, but that does not make it right.

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Statler & Waldorf

The "framed by a crazed genius" excuse is preposterous and worthy only of a Hollywood B-movie.

If this mystery man was trying to frame and humiliate Khun Netchanok, why did he remove all the incriminating material every time I wrote about it?

Where did he find a young English-speaking Thai woman willing to adopt Khun Netchanok's online persona for over a year?

Who wrote the Thai translation?

Who wrote the "Gig" article in The Nation?

Frankly, the inconsistencies are too numerous to list.

Accusing me of a conducting a poor investigation doesn't carry much weight if you can't refute any of the facts I unearthed or provide a credible alternative explanation.

Khun Netchanok needs to come here herself and make a statement.

Vehemently protesting her innocence to various farang guys and asking them to post here on her behalf just makes her look manipulative and desperate.

Here's a much more likely explanation.

1. She meets a rotter or two through BangkokChat.org

2. She expresses her anger to Peter Mortensen.

3. Mortensen hatches a plot to win her affection by suggesting a joint cusade against BangkokChat.

4. It works.

5. She belatedly realises that Mortensen is a nutcase and tries to distance herself.

6. She realises that she's dug herself into a hole that might affect her future career.

7. Unable to talk her way out of it and unwilling to apologise (as is the Thai style), she implores her farang friends to intervene on her behalf.

Khun Netchanok

You were young and silly when you did this and most people do stupid things during their college years.

Unfortunately, you made your mistake in front of thousands of people and caused lasting damage by shutting down one of the nation's most popular online meeting places.

If you are familiar with farang culture, you'll understand that honesty and straight talking gets you a lot further than botched attempts at face-saving.

Why don't you just own up and apologise?

BangkokChat was full of jerks and we all understand why you did it.

Farang guys can be very forgiving - particularly of young Thai women.

Come on, Khun Netchanok. If you apologise now, you can draw a line under all this and get on with your life.

Regards
David

PS. Mr Mortensen's role in all this is quite unforgivable.

coma boy says:

A friend of mine knows Netchanok and she's a typical slutty farang-chaser. Am inclined to suspect that her hate-site was due to some Boxing-Helena style, ขี้หึง, farang customer/boyfriend...

Matt Crook says:

I don't think she was framed. Statler & Waldorf, you've gotten your facts muddled, or you're just outright lying. She is still with her boyfriend Peter.

Statler & Waldorf says:

David,

You are a bit paranoid. Nobody is telling me to post anything, except my conscience. Last time I saw her was like a month ago and I did never speak to her about this article nor did she contact me in any way about this.

Call her then, make your story out of it, I don't think you can make it any worse. Send me an email and I send you her number. There is only one apology needed and you know which one I am talking about.

With kind regards

S & W

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S & W

You still haven't answered my questions.

Your silence is deafening.

Regards
David

Another Dave says:

There is no mention of the Bangkok Post article on gigs as being an example of her work. The link is just listed under "Thai links".

I doubt whether she'd be sharp enough to put even that piece together.

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Hi Another Dave

I accurately explained the nature and significance of the "Thai links" in the original article.

Why don't you just follow them and see for yourself?

Also please note that the girl you are accusing of not being "sharp enough to put even that piece together" is now pursuing a career as a professional journalist.

Regards
David

Bobby Dazzler says:

Matt Crook, Matt Crook that name rings a bell, would that be the same Matt Crook that writes very bad articles in the Guru magazine every Friday. We at the office where so happy to see that your 'Lost Boy' article was missing in last week publication, we final thought you had got fired. Little did we know you would show your Chev head on Mango. So now you are defending a proven 'Lok jit' under the guise of a concerned citizen, you really are a cunt!

Matt Crook says:

*Yawn*

The column continues this week.

Eniac says:

As each farang 'friend' turns up to protect her honour, this girl's reputation takes another knock.

She knows a lot of guys.

What is it about her that attracts all these losers who speak of 'conscience' but obviously just want to get into her knickers?

What a bunch of creeps. Urrrgh.

Matt Crook says:

What are you on about? There is only one person here who has definitely met her, and another one who may have met her. That makes two. A bunch of two creeps.

Eniac says:

Matt, I think you'll find that two bananas constitutes a bunch.

Not that I'm pedantic or anything...

I bet you ten baht that we'll have half a kilo by midnight.

Matt Crook says:

OK, I'll give you that one 'cos it made me laugh.

Dicer says:

Someone needs to be the fly on the bananas and suggest a tart makeover.

I find it all too hilarious the current proliferation [yes that's the word] of Expat Clubs up and down Thailand and the silly little hookers who appear alongside their oversized men. There is even one in Loei province! I mean what do they talk about in their meetings and how do they choose the guest speakers. Ladies and Gents our guest speaker is Khun Sombat who is the Chairman of the Loei Chapter of The Roaming Lao Pistolleros. I once went to a certain province's expat club and there were bandaged hordes of gerigenerian albinos and one Canadian who had a severe diabetes and melting feet syndrome and walked like an emperor penguin. Next table was an old Brit in a funny hat, gold laced blue nylon safari shirt and shiny leather shoes and no socks. He looked a bit like Buffalo Bill with a trilby hat. The talk was naff (orchids) or depressing (what you should do in case you die in your room...how to stop the cops cleaning out the place before your next of kin arrive etc) and later they kept forming new interest groups. There is the mundane photo club, walking club, nick trees from the flora show club.... I went again, don't ask why, only to hear about more groups amidst much fanfare, a bit like that of new Thai political parties. There I was wallowing in ennui while someone made an urgent announcement urging the members and guests not to steal extra cups of tea and biscuits during the intermission and the thought occurred to me that they could do with two more groups. The Anti Anxiety Group and the Tart Makeover Group.

The first guest of the Tart Makeover Group would be this Netchanok tartuan. The Group moderator would show up in a white gown and dish out therapy. She'd be given gold rim glasses, 1930s floral outfits and the ajarn scarf...voila...and kill the flip flops...can you see running a before and after Netchanok? Then she can pass off as a journalist...all in the looks isn't it? Dr Peechai from Pattaya will then get inspired to start a tart clinic. This is no skin bleaching or synchronising the madcap mooded mensus of a village tart, more like reverse-engineering mean and kinky tarts who'd drug your drink with Ativan before they rob you into sweet if not placid rice maidens who don't go past adding a few chillis in your curry when you piss them off. In Dr Peechai's waiting lounge would be 50 hopeful prototart faces.

The whole Netchanok aesthetic comicbook anarchy thing is called transposing the amorphous mutant on the expats, one in a series of rendered half-wit tart exhibits, mixed in a bowl, beaten too lightly, baked too long and humping the unhumpable. Netchanok looks like the prototypic mutant with a few facial muscles wasted by excessive sneering while colouring her picture book or writing about the misfits whose attention she so seeks. She should don those glasses every time she goes out and shouldn't be defensive nor curl her perspiring spatula feet when we crack mutant jokes in her presence.

Habanero!

P.S. Kazakhstan printed new money and they got the spelling wrong so had to recall it all back. Would anyone reaaaaly blame Borat now?!

sniffer says:

The claims and counter-claims fly; surely there is only one man who can satisfy our longing for truth, justice and the Thai way. If only he can be tempted from his self-imposed sojourn in the Fortress of Solitude (aka some Bangkok international school staff room). Stickman, where are you when we need you?

Another David says:

Love your site. Your writing always gives me a giggle. My previous post was my first. I didn't think it worth you commenting, but there you go. So I'll respond.

"I accurately explained the nature and significance of the "Thai links" in the original article."

I've given up trying to find this. (The explanation, not the article.)

"Why don't you just follow them and see for yourself?"

I did. They led to pages on various websites. No mention of her having anything to do with them. Where did you get that from?

"It was published without a by-line but Khun Netchanok includes it on her Geocites profile in a list of links to examples of her work."

I don't see any mention of these being her work.

"Also please note that the girl you are accusing of not being "sharp enough to put even that piece together" is now pursuing a career as a professional journalist."

Fair enough. I was going on my recollection of the quality of the writing in her profiles. I've re-read them and they have a number of flaws which would be unacceptable for a newspaper. Maybe she's extra cautious and uses the grammar checker when she's writing for publication, or perhaps the proof readers have to intervene.

I encountered the farangs.org farang chappy online some time back. Can't remember his name. He's the one that the recruits trawling bangkokchat used to report back to. I told him I thought his mob's methods were out-of-order, referencing the harrassment and hate-mongering, but he seemed oblivious to any criticism. He said they just didn't discuss it. You must be on pretty shaky ground when you aren't willing and able to justify your methods.

Looking forward to your return and the new articles that come with you.

Another David

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Hi Another David

Thanks for adding a few more details. In answer to your question, I just joined the dots.

Regards
David

the man with no name called dave says:

God she's an ugly fuck! Maybe she's jealous coz no guy in his right mind would wanna shag that!

Guru says:

Matt Crook you really are a knob, I wish you were fired as well; your column really really really sucks. You should have stuck to being a scummy back packer then fucked off to whence you came when your money ran out. I don't look forward to seeing the inane drivel you manage to vomit up this Friday. Please make sure you include the sentence, "A lot of people think I am gay, but I am not", which always seems to show up in your column, I think he protests too much!

Matt Crook says:

Thanks for reading.

Netchanok Klinkesorn says:

I'm Netchanok Klinkesorn. I need to talk to you. I did not do anything about that website and you got something wrong about me.Please contact me back ASAP. I just knew about what people talk about me now.

Guru says:

Cunt

Adam says:

There are a lot of facts wrong here. I spoke to her long time tonight and she is very upset about the story. She broke upo with the bf and he has been stirring the shit a lot. You really need to speak to her because most of ur facts are wrong. She is actually a perfectly nice girl. I know her quite well...not a bf, just a friend. She is saying she needs to talk to her editor...which does not bode well. If u want me to facilitate a converstaion I am happy to do. I don't actually care much but she is very upset about this....crying buckets.

Johnny Tokyo says:

Khun Netchanok

Well, okay.
I guess that's more or less your story. . . . . . you're sticking to it, right?

"the devil did it" ??
or
"the devil made me do it" ???
or
ok,meet me for coffee and tell me what you can prove for sure and then I'll tell you what REALLY happened?????

That kind of shit? . . . . . . something like that, right?

A lot of us caught your act on that hate site.
That was you all the way, dear.
You.
Maybe Mortensen was there cheering you on but you did it and, at the time, you definitely enjoyed doing it.
(Linguistic interference, inappropriate
idiom and syntax leave their mark.)

It was you, Babycakes.

Ya slandered an entire group of people.

You.

Now you figure we've gotta be stupid enough to buy into your current re-telling of the whole silly tale?

Pathetic!

How stupid do you think we are?

"The truth" to you and most Thais is "anything I can get by you"

...crying buckets. ????
I figure the only person who'd give a flying fuck about that would be another opportunist scribbler like this self-important "Matt Crook" twat.
Anyway who gives a shit about him?

Mortensen sans the webskills.

You wanted to be an activist? Well here's your chance.
Get on the web with a proper site and apologize for what you've done.

Admit what you did and say you're sorry.
Apologise to all the people you've hurt.
Apologize to all the Thai women who are happy with foreign men. . . . . women of every, class and every skin tone.
That's it.

You did this to yourself, sweetheart.

Oh, and incidentally, you are not the only Bkk "web giant" who once dabbled/flirted/dealt in this kind of hate . . . you stand on the shoulders of a local commentator who spent years pulling pages constantly re-inventing himself in hopes of a big banner score.
Never could shake that moniker from the first years tho'.
It stuck.

You guys do this to yourselves.

Just Matt says:

She is perfectly capable of facilitating a conversation herself. She does not need any Farang to guide her in this situation. If she has something to say, all she needs to do is sit down and say it.

If you hadn't noticed, David is going on holiday. I think he has more pressing things to deal with at the moment. So, Name, just say what you have to say.

Zaphod says:

Another chivalrous boyfriend rides to the defense of the poor maiden. Or is that just another pseudonym...

The Night Ranger says:

I have had several girls in my class who looked like this so I am not surprised.

Bed Regular says:

I know a friend/aquaintence that is semi-well known in expat circles who actually paid 20,000 baht to kiss and play with Netchanoks feet !!! He said she really enjoyed having a white farang do this ! Some power trip for her, but I think he was ripped off badly, to say the least. This was in around 03

philH says:

20,000 baht just to kiss and play with her feet? OK that's probably the better looking end of her but she certainly saw him coming. Or maybe she didn't, depends which way round he was at the time.

Daniel says:

"Please contact me back ASAP. I just knew about what people talk about me now."

If it's all wrong, post the truth here. This has been going on how long now? A year or so? It's been talked about on many sites and forums and you, with your many farang male 'friends', just found out about this? Doesn't add up.

"There are a lot of facts wrong here."
OK, list them. It looks like she doesn't actually claim to have written the anti gig post. Why don't you list what else is wrong?

"'The truth' to you and most Thais is "anything I can get by you"
Truer words have rarely been spoken (no pun intended).

Any way, if it is all wrong, list the facts now and give an explanation about everything that happened. I definitely think that something is fishy in your relationship with that guy. If he really is the evil one and hired a Thai to do translations, etc., it will make a great story and everyone can move on to vilfying him and Galt and leave you alone.

Crook's a Fool says:

Matt Crook can't be fired because he isn't employed by Guru, the Bangkok Post or anyone at Post Publishing.

In fact, he doesn't even get paid for his "articles".

They just keep running them because they are so bad that they make people want to read them. You know, that watching a car crash sort of thing.

The staff at Guru think he's a witless twat as well.

Matt says:

Crook's a fool,
Have I ever said anything to the contrary? Is my name in the credits?

Kudos for your "inside" knowledge and for hiding behind a fake name on the internet.

TANAI KWAI says:

"'The truth' to you and most Thais is "anything I can get by you"

GodDAMN, Daniel. That is some resonating shit right there is what that is.

TK

no more guru magazine says:

Why so much hatred towards that esteemed "journalist" of rare genius, Master Crook? Guru Magazine is shite with or without Crooky-boy. Those other two who scribble for it should definitely have their crayons taken away from them.

I don't know how many trees are destroyed each year to make guru but even if it's only one, I'd rather have that one tree.

And this Netchanok "fuck off foreigners" Klinkesorn bird? Did anyone ever find out the true reason for the brown mouth? Was she really tongue polishing a rusty, sheriff's badge when he had the wind that rocked the barley and squeezed the last of the HP in her fizzog? Just curious.

Chuck says:

Great.So now we have notmattcrook. Seems to be a whole new sub-plot developing here.

Looks like David hit another vein.

Peter says:

I am sorry you got it wrong, it would not be www.notmattcrook.com, it would be www.WhatIsMattHesACunt.com, also true to form there were more gay innuendos in this weeks issue, well done tool. I am very glad to hear they pay you fuck all for your column, the way I see it you should pay them and maybe a public apology for being a cunt is also in order.

Matt says:

I don't know why you're so upset.

Adam says:

In answer to Matt Crook and Zaphod. I am no pseudonym and I am not a bf. Frankly, even if 100% of what David and others claim about were true, she would still not deserve the drivel that has been directed at her. She's 22 for god's sake, just a kid, though a kid who seems to have some serious bf issues. She is seriously upset about all this and, no, it isn't faked.

As it is there do seem to be a lot of fact "gaps". Saying that David has better things to do than deal with this stuff is ridiculous. He started it after all.

David has made plenty of errors before, for all that he writes entertainingly and he does have a tendency to be very one-sided in his story-telling. Note that word "story" because what we have here is a story, not a report.

Mangosauce does itself no favors with this kind of drivel. I begin to understand why Google bailed out.

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Hi Adam

"She is seriously upset about all this and, no, it isn't faked."

Upset at getting caught, perhaps, but the racist object of your desires has shown no remorse whatsoever. She's offered no apology and no explanation.

You've accused me of making errors but you can't tell me what they are.

Pitiful.

Regards
David

tim says:

LOL!
absolutely bloody hilarious! Someones clearly scorned, she seems to think she has the right to being treated equally, by westerners, in a country as arcane as thailand! This is what happens when you give the third world electricity... lol
great site by the way.
regards,
long time tim of tieland.

tim says:

and that notmangosauce.com characther, what a weirdo, is he hassling u about wanting to see ur tool?? scary LOL!
oh its tuff at the top huh lol

Johnny Tokyo says:

Tanai Kwai

Little more reverb for you perhaps, councillor ;-?

"'The truth' to you and most Thais is "anything I can get by you"

Sincere apologies to the more seasoned and astute observers among us who might have been bored by this banal pronouncement.

At the time of writing I was in the mindset, if you will, of the excited biologist on his daily walk through the campus; the botanitcal fetishist who stumbles upon a perfect specimin normally found deep in the jungle.

The inconcruency in this case, being my discovery of this Netchanok person's persistant self-serving blabbery smack dab in the midst of a bush fire of her own making.

Khun Netchanok's rhetorical gambit? An unblemished, robust, unabashed "Prevaracationa calumnuia thaiae" normally located just before one encounters "thaia deniabilitia scatalogica". Found with almost equal regularity in the bars or on the front pages of Thailand's daily newspapers.

In this rare moment professional fulfillment I felt a need to ground myself somehow. Hence the above uttereance, akin to "Eureka" or some such exclamation, was in no way meant to imply that others had not at some point made similar observations.

Always enjoy your posts TK

JT

Johnny Tokyo says:

Adam

You need to get out a little more.

J Tokyo

Matt says:

Hornets nest. I'm bailing.

hentaigaijin says:

hunt the bitch down!!!

Charles Edward Frith says:

I don't feel comfortable with the level of discourse on this post. The girl may well be unpleasant, uninformed, foolish or a partial victim herself. She also might regret her actions and just want to get on with her life. She's just a kid who went large on a website and appears to have paid the price. If Mangosauce really despises racism why can't an honest investigation (a la Borat and Ali G) take place where the deep seated racism of the Thais is unmasked for what it is. Insecurity complex, vindictive, uncooperative and myopic.

I promise you that it's not just a Caucasian issue. If Laos, Cambodia, Burma or Malaysia were carpet bombed tomorrow the apathy from Thai people would extend somewhere between ennui and the death of Hello Kitty. I can imagine a few days discussion and then back to 'gin cow rur yang?' The brainwashing that goes on placing the Kingdom at the centre of the Universe is breathtaking and pernicious.

No country willingly accepts foreigners, but this is your planet, my planet and our planet. Cultures are to be respected but the next time the superior tone of 'but we're special' is invoked, just ask a Thai person calmly the predator drone conversation killer. "What's the most popular job for Thais in Europe? I find that gets the point across without saying the unsayable.

That girl at BK magazine has been outed, and I perhaps needs leaving alone. She's a girl and enough is enough. The ability for renewal is one we should encourage. Her past actions are marked for life anyway.

By the way I've asked everyone but is there a word for racism in Thai because it's time to create one if so.

Dicer says:

Adam,

Obviously no one here, least of all you, can take David's place of trying to get her little shit pieces of information from different sites, put them in a little commented pile and allow us the spectators to piss on it. Life here doesn't imitate art Adam, it imitates dubbed comic pornos. And if it makes one more person like you uncomfortable let's accept that it's done its job well in helping us work off our antagonisms. It's also usually the case that the the skeptics are right, wouldn't you say? Or else I'd say the company you frequent may be just as unhealthy as your "hardy" comment here, which makes for a very poor doorstop.

"I know a friend/aquatinter that is semi-well known in expat circles who actually paid 20,000 baht to kiss and play with Netchanoks feet !!! " - Bad Regular

One of the worst insults you can call a mutant is "eat my foot".... now not only to say, but have it done and get paid for it gives a new definition to the term degraded. Or perhaps it is a fetish of an experienced white gerbil who, in traversing the absurdities of life has approached his personal limits of sanity. Fetish I hear you say? Wrong country I say again..... mutants would say ..."ok mister, we go make lab now" and not "would you like to eat my foot" or " I like white man nibble my toes to enrich my esteem."

Look at it like this. Your average rice tart would think of the cobra that induced consensual fear in her farm days before she wishes a man to perform a fetish. That is to say, mutant tarts are as unlikely to think of fetishes as they are equally unlikely to tell you stories of cobras. Ok, at least the latter are in the collective consciousness, but suppressed. If you ask any "chao na" tart about the cobras she saw as a maiden working in the paddy she may in all likelihood give you a knowing smile, but wouldn't go into detail. Out of sight out of mind becomes in LOS out of mind out of sight. Or Mental Erase as they prefer to call it.

Even the tarts who have graduated from Silom's Technical Ping Pong College would not in all creativity and fantasy go past jumping naked through hoops for the obligatory cola commission before they wai the pra phum and have fiery somtam. If the 22 yo sao does said fetish, however, it means seven years of bad karma for her or if she doesn't think so it must be her idea of being a modern girl, I'm not sure which.

I cant help thinking if she was on TV she'd be in layers of makeup and snitty lipped, would wink at the camera while tilting head sideways and curl lips outwards....reminds one of a carp in a tank that has been told that it looks sexy. Hang on, but carps don't have feet! Ok stick a pair of spatulas on the carp and you've got it.

What was she again...yeah, a 22 yo anarchic comic book journalist. Could you imagine being interviewed by this half-wit. Two minutes in a kind of conversation with her and when your brain hears it, the left-hand side looks at the right-hand side of the brain and says, 'It's awfully foggy in here, we may morph into a mutant fossil.' And then helpless, with eyes downcast you notice those feet. What follows in desperation only Bad Regular knows. A dejected misfit's delight those spatula feet.

Is one unfair? Wull wull... as what's his face would say, if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, we have at least to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands.

"the next time the superior tone of 'but we're special' is invoked, just ask a Thai person calmly the predator drone conversation killer. "What's the most popular job for Thais in Europe? I find that gets the point across without saying the unsayable." - Charles Edward Frith

They always switch between the personal and national facade on you depending on how you approach, but deep down they know what they are so you dont have to come right out, in your overzealous sportsmanship and remind them even if they play the we're special Thai Rao and you're not that special national tautology game on you. Tickle them and they laugh. You can use local fissures to advantage. To the lao speak like a lao to the northerner and to the centrals ditto and they loosen up once they find out that you can differentiate. Blanket slamming people is not good and only shows you're starving for material to play with. So Mr Frith what you suggest above is counter-intuitive unless you want them to f*** off and let you be. Some Issan tarts gets uppity and tell her that she's actually not Thai and jokingly hammer. Gets the joke straight away. They're very socially aware and get your drift so no need to be confrontational everytime it pops up. It's always tricky to know how to get others to respond thoughtfully. As for the young journo kid jibe, she's getting the attention she seeks so it's good for her. Plus more feet toying punters too.

Pants Elk says:

What *is* the most popular job for Thais in Europe?
I only ask because I want to know.

...............

This addendum to Pants Elk's comment isn't by David, although it appears to be "signed" by him. It's an affectation that was vaguely amusing the first time but threatens to become annoying if repeated.

Grow up, Pants.

David

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Hi Pants

You read my mind.

Regards
David

longfarang says:

I chatted with this girl not long ago after meeting her in Thailandfriends. Guess what? She pretended not to have a boyfriend and sent me some scary photos of herself. Then last week I believe she went to Singapore with her boyfriend. That's after she told me she has no boyfriend! She is easy to get on a late at night date I think. This girl must be making her boyfriend crazy if he knows what she is doing. Money seems not his problem and he probably want to make her not poor. I'm sure he is helping her. She is a gold digger and Peter need to wake up from his silly dream, join our farang crowd and get out and get drunk to find a better gal. That's it. I hope he reads this. KNOCK KNOCK KNOCK, SHE IS NOT WORTH IT!

Johnny Tokyo says:

Racism - 'khit gan baeng yaek phiw'

But perception of racism as a "no-no" is so foreign to this culture that the above construct has to be synthesized pretty well "from scratch".
Doesn't really exist in Thai.
Neither does "You can dish it out but you can't take it," from what I can see.

Just a look at how easily it has been for Thailand's 21st Century decendants of Swatowese and Fukienese rice-barge colonists to get the locals to hate the colour of their own skin over these past few short decades
(-look at the pre-war pix - real close)
Got 'em all poisoning themselves with mercuric chloride these days to get white skin. . . billion dollar industry.
It's killing women as well.
Where are the activists?

If Laos, Cambodia, Burma or Malaysia were carpet bombed tomorrow the apathy from Thai people would extend somewhere between ennui and the death of Hello Kitty.

For even more verifiable fun with hypotheticals let's toss Vietnam into that hopper then turn back the clock 35 years. (out pops Dean Barret ;-?
That would give us, um, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam, and just for laughs, Kissinger protege, Pol.fucking.Pot.
The big Thai "response" to all that (vis. geo-politics) was a decade or so of world-class leg spreading.

-digression of sorts
As for a real cultural check on traditional local attitudes to actual "leg spreading" just check out the wall freizes in any of the old Khmer shrines, Anchor or Erawan.
Compare that playful imagery to the nipple tweaking and ass grabbing invitations to short or long term concubinage that go down every nite in bars, go-go joints AND MUCH MORE NUMEROUS Thai-oriented "Coyote" venues.

What draws many of us here (Asians and millions of locals as well) used to be revered and hallowed as a gift from the gods.
We're pilgrims, Netchanok. Can't you see that? Damaged souls on a spiritual quest.
Shades of Lourdes, if you will ;-)

Thailand's educational institutions produce obtuse, slavishly obediant blockheads by the tens of thousands.
Ironies, historical references and word- play are simply lost on any local with a mind to have a go at us poor foreign pilgrims.

Hence the success of sites like this.

Poor girl never really had a chance. Might have fared better if she'd had the smarts to take up the way of the pole instead of the "hate farangs" bandwagon.

Outta time.

insider says:

this is a perfect example of the evil that guys like david and Stick spread around with their commentaries.

they have no problem destroying other peoples lives as they are doing to this girl.

guys like david and Stick talk as if they are angels. self-righteous ba#tards.

I hope summers prints pictures of david for all to see. personally, I think it is only fitting that we all know who these people are in person.

since they expect every little detail to be published about people in their commentaries, they themselves should be scrutinized in every detail.

that would only be fair.

how about it, david? CHICKEN???

Drivespline says:

What the hell is wrong with you all? Are your expat worlds so small and sensitive even the smallest insult becomes ... this? Maybe the Thai expression for England (something about classy people?) is an exageration, but don't you think you could do better than this? Schools out, boys.

Also, I guess people really can be entirely anonymous when posting all this venom. Good thing, too, because I have to believe that an angry 22 year old female could probably outlast every one of you in a fistfight. And a fight is what you would have if you said these kind of things to someones face. You'd deserve every bit of ass beatin' that you'd get, too. Would you take this kind of shit from someone?

Some of this has really gone way too far. Galt is one of you, and for his sins may have gotten what he deserved.
But, (David) this girl, whatever her percieved offense, is just a kid and in a way Galt is not, she is kinda out of your jurisdiction. On the other hand, you're not out of hers, I'm thinkin'.

Isn't your pound of flesh enough?

Get back to the smart (maybe sleazy is a better description) stuff, David. It's a better showcase for your wit than this vindictive crap. Your site has been overtaken by angry drunken dwarves.

Telemachus says:

It's really harsh guys she's just a young girl...

but yeah, she should learn to deal with personal issues appropriately and not take them out on other people.

P.S Saw Brokedown Palace recently, scary (two western chick get an all expenses paid stay at the BK Hilton for being duped into being drug mules). All that romantic "what a beautiful culture" Koah San Road nonsense can only lead to trouble.
I don't care what anyone says, any western bloke not in a gogo bar in Thailand is up to no good!

Chuck says:

I don't know why you're so upset.

Posted by Matt | December 2, 2006 11:40 AM

He probably just discovered bangkokchat was run by a bunch of old pervs in Pattaya pretending to be Thai girls.

Yok Yok says:

Bangkok Chat was/is effectivley nuetered and ruined by Netchanok, the site is currently an all male chat sausage party of old men and a few farangs pretending to be women attempting to extort money. so, I guess Netchanok did one good thing !

Andy says:

Can't say I feel sorry for her at all..
Her pontificating "good farang / bad farang / khee nok" bollocks on her "farangs.org" site was so annoyingly condescending that I'd have her boiled in skin whitening cream tomorrow.

Silly little tart was obviously just the "glove puppet" of the Mortensen guy though. Is he a fucking Mormon or something?

longfarang says:

Chuck; Bangkok chat was the most screwed up chat. If she ruined it she should be called a HERO! I never had much for those pedos in there anyway. But I wonder why she seems to look for farang friends in Thailandfriends. Her other names are Adhicha, Redgal, Manudsawee Lertbuth and probably others. Is she using all those names to hide herself for anybody? And she was in the BK Magazine office late at night when she told me she could meet me like at midnight. It sounds fishy to me. She could get fired or perhaps she is collecting data for some article there about us farangs? I remember not long ago BK Magazine had a theme on online dating.

David's impostor says:

Wow you lot really have it in for her. While your at it, why don't you organise a lynch mob and drive her out of town?

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Hi David's impostor

As I explained above, there are many here who would be prepared to forgive Khun Netchanok if she simply apologised.

The ball is in her court.

Regards
David

longfarang says:

Agree it's not fair to a young girl. Overall what she did was much better than what we do here against her. She stopped some serious perverts in Bangkok chat who don't need anybody to care about them. What is really our problem about that? She must have been a victim too and it was her revenge. But she have saved students from rapes and worse things I'm quite confident about.
I think we should appologize to her if anybody should! Who is most hurt about this? Are we men or pussies?

Pants Elk says:

I dunno, David. You said yourself (I think) that apologising is not something that comes easily to Thais. Even if she regrets what she did (and that's a pretty big "even if") why on earth should she post an apology here? How can you even ask, knowing how unlikely it is?

Some of your recent postings have seemed to me to be too concerned with the "virtual world", referring more to other web sites and personalities than to Bangkok. Reading websites about websites is like, er, doing a jigsaw of a jigsaw.

What brought me to your blog was the insight it gave (oops, past tense, sorry) into the real Bangkok, not the virtual.

You also risk some kind of backlash yourself, especially if the people you target (and that's the right word) are as malicious and vindictive as you say, so please be careful.

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Hi Pants Elk

When I taught my first Thai girlfriend how to apologise, she quickly realised that, in farang circles, it's a "get out of jail free card" and she stopped being devious almost overnight.

Khun Netchanok seems to be a slow learner but I'm determined to turn her into a better person.

Referring readers to other interesting websites goes against the grain for most tight-arsed Thailand webmasters (because they're worried that their audience won't come back) but I think it's a good idea.

Incidentally, don't worry about my welfare. In the end, these malicious nutters only hurt themselves.

Regards
David

David's impostor says:

Ok break it down, what does she exactly need to apologise for?

- Being racist?
- Hitting a raw nerve among BKK's sexpat community?
- Having an opinion and standing by it?
- Annoying MangoSauce and David?

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Hi David's impostor

She only needs to apologise for the racist thing. It caused genuine offence.

No one in this thread has criticised her for warning Thai women about sexual predators in chat rooms.

Hitting raw nerves and annoying people is what this forum is all about and I certainly wouldn't criticise her for that.

Now I'd like to ask you a question.

Why has the great campaigner gone so quiet all of a sudden?

Tell her to come here and make a statement. We want to hear from the organ grinder - not her monkey.

Regards
David

Johnny Tokyo says:

longfarang khrup

You just don't get it, do you.

"'The truth' to you and most Thais is "anything I can get by you"

Subtlety is obviously wasted on you. . . So here goes.

Nice thrai, but ....... Sorry .........
(buzzer sounds)
You, khun longfarang, are Thai.
That's right. Thai. Got it??

Now, longfarang, you probably figure you are a fluent English speaker and this Netchanok came blubbering to you because you've made it known to anyone who doesn't know any better what a wonderful command of passa Angrit you have . . . but, um, . . .sorry . . . you don't and, uh, you are not.

Some stuff you should work on:
You make all the usual transilteration mistakes. Not to mention sub. vb. agreement goofs.
Your logic is sophomorically faulty (kinda like a former Thai PM defending the reason for his maid's new-found mega-wealth)
And then, for dessert, you move on to commit the classic tactical ploy identified in the above quote.

You're full of malarky but that never stops people like you from trying to get one by, does it.

I have a suggestion.
With ballroom dancing, ten-pin bowling and yoga currently promoted as possible demonstration events in the 2008 Summer Olympics, why don't you or your Netchanok enter with the Thai national passtime of LYING THROUGH YOUR F**CKING TEETH as a demonstration event?
I see a lock on a "GHoaND" for Thailand here.

Thai society is by far the very worst exploiter of Thai women here.
Yes, that's right. Thais.
It's an open secret, and it's worldwide.

Ask any Asian about the way women in Thailand are exploited BY THAIS.
So if, in your silly, weak attempt to inculpate Westerners as the exclusive exploiters of Thai women by using the inclusive "we", YOU, as a Thai, meant "we Thai people," I might go along.
(But then you don't really understand what I just said just now, do you ;-?

Ethics aside,your simple-minded depiction of this Netchanok cartoon as a saviour and hero to women is pathetically Thai in its logic, syntax and grammar.

Don't know if you're a man or a pussy, (nice observance of the 'y' to 'ies' in the pluralization of 'pussy,' though) but you are living, breathing proof that very FEW Thais, even after years in the West can/could ever pass themselves of as a native speaker of English.
And that's okay. . . unless you're trying to pull a fast one.

So just for the record, longfarang, you didn't get this one by. Get the next one proofread by a doofus like Matt Mortensen.
Nice thrai, though.

Hope you were properly rewarded for your pains.

Dicer says:

"When I taught my first Thai girlfriend how to apologise, she quickly realised that, in farang circles, it's a "get out of jail free card" and she stopped being devious almost overnight." - David
This is the kind of anecdote that gives the dogs bollox in Dog Whisper a shiney gloss.

A Cesar trick for everyone to try... when Cesar wants to reroute a dog's brain, he just pulls up on the leash.. when the dog's brain goes up, it can't remember its program. I'm always playing around so I found the same works on me. If I am thinking about something and want to change, i just look straight up and suddenly it is different...try it...now the value of this is say you are talking to a weird lao, you just hold your hand up over her head to get her to look up and then watch as she loses her program. " So where are you going tonite tilak," and the lie she's prepared goes right out the window.

While fiddling around for a psych article recently I remembered a yank friend who broke all the rules and moved in with his mid 30s northern Chinese gf's family (never done in patri Chin culture). There he was hanging about the house like a used sorbette sometimes fixing appliences. The more he did the more he showed them and the more her three brothers and the patriarch hated him. One of the brother's sao tried to ensnare him by giving him suggestive looks. And the poor fella who does not know what role playing is did the silly great dane thing of "let me bring more rabbits for the Chihuahuas so they'll like me." Anyway him being a nice guy and all I tried all sorts of ideas until finally I realised that he has an anxiety personality disorder. First he tells me at sunset he has so much anxiety it takes beer and antihistimines to get to sleep. Then he says he constantly has to be doing something so he drinks all the time...coffee, fruit juice, pop or he bites his nails until they bleed. Now i have a clue as to what is wrong with this run away subconscious...his parents undervalued him he said; his mother is a kind of control freak and his sister won't go near her. Then as his father is a dog handler I passed on the info that I had seen tawny dogs with vertical stripes. He asked his old man what the breed might be, and the old boy laughed back, what had Dicer been drinking. In Cesar terms the guy disrespects me and his son at the same time. There is the problem and it actually comes from both parents. Another fella who married a cute 19 year old lao in his mid 40s is the same and even a third guy with the same sao problem and same type of parents.

But the question is the cure. In Kahuna terms, you talk to the inner self..subconscious and ask it what is wrong. Then you have daily talks with the inner self, this is of course easy to do. It takes time to convince the inner self. The difference between Kahuna therapy and Freudian is Kahunas know the inner self is an actual animal spirit and to end the process they bring in the aumakua or higher spirit to work with the inner spirit. This is dynamic. I have found the same as the Ameridians. Four inner spirits and each with a different job. The emotional one is usually the key especially with women. This is like the NLP cogni psychology master who was given an incurable multipersonality case. He walked up to the guy and said ok which personality can cure you? And he got the right persona and made the cure in two minutes to the astonishment of the psychiatric staff, but in reality it takes time to get the inner self to listen.

Of course, David is being an optimist in thinking that training Netchanok can yield the same result it did with his gf. Perhaps it will. Online therapy feeds more transference psychosis from Miss Netchanok and interesting grammar to go with it. All she needs now is someone to jolt her inner self to have a go. And the riveted audience here can take notes.

Where are the Kahuna when you need them.

Looper says:

Maybe Ms Klink calculates that reticence is the best tactic - at least in the short term.

David, you are on holiday. Go and lie on a floaty thing in the pool and order a funny coloured drink with an umbrella.

David's impostor says:

[Private message removed]

As for why she has gone silent, i have no clue mate. I don't talk to her and have no desire to. You on the other hand seem to have a direct line of communication, so why not head to BK magazine's offices tomorrow, meet with the Editor and her and ask for a full apology?

This is one of the problems of rants on the web, whilst it may seem cool to belittle someone using a HTTP POST method, it's all the more harder to do it in person.

If you believe in this apology so much, then have the balls to confront her and demand one, surely that's the manly thing to do if you're so upset.

As for the monkey comment, is that called for?

---------------

Hi David's impostor

I'm sorry to disappoint you but I've got better things to do than stalk some silly girl.

Regarding the private message, you might be interested to know that I gave that email address to just one person in Bangkok.

Regards
David

Saeb says:

You must be a Scots Lass:

"Who's gonna clipe on her?"
Nice to read the word "Clipe" once more.

More folks on this site should be aware of old parts of languages.
Heh-Heh.

I'll invite you for tattie soup anytime in BKK with Ms S present.

Common Sense says:

I guess its about time I throw my 2 cents in. Yes I know its difficult for some of you older gentlemen to accept that this bitch is an adult, but the last time I checked 22 means you are an adult, responsible for making adult decisions, and living with the consequences of those decisions whether good or bad. Those of you trying to play the Captain Save a Hoe role can fuck off. What exactly would you expect David to do, support her and her anti-farang website. Not exactly in his best interests. Anyways I hope your gallant chivalry in sticking up for the scorned tart pays off in the end and you recieve a few naughty little treats from her. How you'll be able to look at yourself in the mirror afterwards I'll never know. She is one nasty looking creature.

TANAI KWAI says:

"You, khun longfarang, are Thai."

Well spotted, Johnny Tokyo. A lesser linguist would have simply concluded "non-native English speaker."

Dicer writes,

"Anyway him being a nice guy and all I tried all sorts of ideas until finally I realised that he has an anxiety personality disorder. First he tells me at sunset he has so much anxiety it takes beer and antihistimines to get to sleep. Then he says he constantly has to be doing something so he drinks all the time...coffee, fruit juice, pop or he bites his nails until they bleed."

If he's not on anything else and has no medical issues, have you suggested a 20-40 mg daily dose of Paxil (unlike most of the other meds hits the anxiety, the obsessiveness, and the depression)? If he should get too sleepy (sounds unlikely) maybe a daily 150-300 mg Wellbutrin chaser (energizing anti-depressant)? You could monitor his progress as you may know far more about psychopharm than the local M.D. (For my part, since they call lawyers "doctors" in places like Austria and Argentina, I have been known to interpret my own mandate quite liberally and I haven't killed anybody yet. My father, an engineer, does the same thing on account of how he almost finished medical school before being expelled for a hoax he and his roommate cooked up involving a supposed means to induce priapism).

Sounds like medication would help your friend focus on something other than his father's critical voice in the echo chamber of his mind. That and a fairly consuming hobby (other than trying to please those hideous ingrates).

TK

Chuck says:

longfarang... You say she was in the BK Magazine office late at night when she told you she could meet you like at midnight!??! That sounds very sinister indeed. She obviously wasn't just doing her nails up there. Or trying to avoid you.

Yes she definitely could get fired or perhaps, like you say, she is collecting data for some article there about us farangs? Damn the woman!!!

And not so long ago BK Magazine had a theme on online dating you say!! Is there no depth to which this woman will stoop?

Good work longfarang. Between us we'll put paid to her little tricks.

Chuck.

Dizz says:

Dicer:
Transference psychosis? Wow- never
heard that one before. Also, generally,
Freud is still respected for his ideas
of the unconscious but his therapy is]
hardly ever used anymore- too expensive,
frequent, and doesn't seem to work too
well. The popular therapy now is cognitive.
However, as usual, your writing is
very good! No "psychosis" there.
(May be a little neurotic but hey,
that makes it interesting.
---Dizz

longfarang says:

Chuck, yes weird. but she was definitely chatting with me from her office late in the evening. But I didn't contribute to her articles I hope. but she said she could stay with me at night. i didn't go for that and prefer a cute bar girl.

Anonymous says:

"You, khun longfarang, are Thai."

Well spotted, Johnny Tokyo. A lesser (linguist, huh???) would have simply concluded "non-native English speaker."

Yeah, yeah.
Bit of a samoot-wah. . . . I guess, but not really.

Lots of dots to connect.
There's this noticable Austro-thai linguistic pathology in play that excludes the Europeans and all the native Angrit speakers. (They're excluded for other reasons as well.
Ruled out the Germans/Dutch for reasons too tedious to mention.)
Other Asians, perhaps?
Gimme a f**king break here, ladies I'm trying to cook somethng here ;-)

. . . distinctly heavy herbings of bai makrut, lemon grass and galangal .(Not that there's anything wrong with that ;-)

Check it out for yourself.
"she have saved students from rapes and worse things I'm quite confident about.
I think we should appologize to her if anybody should! Who is most hurt about this? Are we men or pussies?"

All this "we" stuff????? . . . Thai jive for damn sure.

Went to motive. . . and then to "who benfits?"
Many more "dots" in the diction as well as the "plot" department.
Again, too tedious but y'all know the drill anyways.
As well, it just didn't sound much like Ms. Klink's other stuff.
Not whiney enough. Too declarative.
For my money, this is a Thai doing his cool-ass Angrit thing for a blubbering sister.

No doubt Netchanok's been through a lot lately. First getting caught and then realizing that she couldn't jive-ass her way out of this one.
Dead-ended by common sense.

Why doesn't she just do what David and many of us have suggested, hinted, asked cajoled and requested she do?

Think hard about who she hurt and why they would be hurt.
Admit, without condition, to what she did with Mortensen at her side.
Apologize to all the men and women she's offended. (And continues to offend.)

I'd forgive her.

And, yeah yeah, and if I did, the "drivel count" on this site would plunge dramatically wouldn't it?
Apologies in advance to y'all for all this, uh, what's the word?
Oh yeah.
Drivel.
Yeah that's it.
Drivel.
Uhuh. Uhuh.
Rat own.

Outta time.

Anonymous says:

Accoring to that website, it was all about too many farang whore-mongering and using women in Thailand. I agree with her there, and I'm a "farang" with a Thai wife.

Dicer says:

"Transference psychosis? Wow- never heard that one before." - Dizz

Simply when someone like tart here projects her feelings about farangs in her life onto us, other foreigners using a foreign language website. It's a fancy term that would account for her experience, while she's quitely sulking Or say while confessing her sins to David it approximates her early experiences in the present; The observing ego and all that. So a "transfer" of Netchanok's emotional reactions becomes obvious in everything she'd say, including (if she was sitting in the mangopsych chair) her jabber about her anti farang neurosis. Ordinarily it becomes part of the material for analysis, but in this particular case a sort of bad grammar comedy..

Shrink: "All right, Netchanok. I want you to tell me about the day you started saying bad things about farangs."
Netchanok: "What website?"
Shrink: "Miss Netchanok it's not going to help to digress from the discussion. I'm your analyst."
Netchanok: " You like my feet."
Shrink: "I ask the questions. Could you start telling me about that day now please"
Netchanok: " I was sitting on Peter's lap, but him dont want make lab to my feet. You happy?"
...

"Sounds like medication would help your friend focus on something other than his father's critical voice in the echo chamber of his mind. That and a fairly consuming hobby (other than trying to please those hideous ingrates)." - TK

Yes, it's obvious, but not for someone who is determined to be "retired" at age 50 and sits all day in front of the TV. I'd have suggested sodium penthatol or perhaps 500g of Seconal so that he could sleep through the whole thing.

More cartoon moments.

Netchanok could typically be like one of those condo reception girls I see everywhere. Barely made it through Rajabat or some manga polytechnic. Sits in the apartment office all day looking vacantly into mid space. There is one such girl in a mate's northern condo. When I passed through town a couple of times I visited his condo and asked the two girls in the office to call him. First time they looked at me and said rudely to one another "what does this one want?" So I quipped, "which one of you is having her period and which one is polite.." What did I get back? Gaped mouth is what I got back. The "pracham duan" comment got the chubby one of the two my mate calls Dumpy to turn red so I had guessed right. Dumpy is having her "monthly appointment." The other one, who was wearing a twisted lips expression he calls Slutty. Slutty had this same pleasant look in her eye Romanian soldiers had when they helped the Nazis load dead gypsies in graves. "You've got hateful beady eyes Slutty, what happened", I was going to ask, but they soon realised that this barb is not game so they dispatched me through security door into the lift. Forward two months and same rude behaviour.

Third time was a revolution. Ran into Dumpy in the condo office again. She was wildly nice and became very chatty. "I know you, you are Khun X's friend and you visit every week." And she went on asking questions like how old was I, why did my mate buy toilet paper 20 rolls at a time. As you'd expect a pure cartoon moment for me so I had to pinch myself to check if it was real. It was. My mind blinked and said the most likely explanation must be a new drug is out.

Dumpy had even splurged on some nice perfume. Probably got a tip from the college tarts in the building. She opened the security door to let me in. As I stepped past the double doors right infront of the lift was Slutty, who said "hello sir" to me. Romanian look had vanished and now she was doing a saucy, steamy mutant version of Lauren Bacall oozing at Bogey. So they are in hunting mode!

I stepped into the lift thinking it's the ovulatory cycles hyped up for Saturnalia...Told this to my mate and he nonchalantly said something along the lines of, "yeah its time for the lunar looney ovulation cocktail." As I left the building two hours later Slutty was still in her Bacall pose and Dumpy wafted in heat. The same evening another 70 year old gopher wanders my local gym in his underpants and his lady visits the men's shower. What astrological explanation could I find for this one? By this time I'd ODed on cartoon moments for one day. Gopher's lady is one of those serilously retarded characters who have washed one toilet too many and then had her head slammed in a huge metaphysical door.
Here it is too what we'd call mutant conclusion. They see you 2-3 times and it becomes everyday. This is her neural thing trying to synthesise.

Thanks to Netchanok we have to invite, Borat, a Kahuna shaman, Gregor Samsa's grandbug and a cognition expert for dinner. Over wine we'd talk about who'd be more interesting and more appropriate to drag a butchered pig up the lane.

Common Sense says:

Anonymous,

Perhaps you and her could get together and provide us with an acceptable number of whore-mongering farangs to use women in Thailand. While your at it do the same for Thai men. Maybe we could start a genocide to restict this pattern.

While were at it lets restrict the number of con-artist whores who use farang men. The supply of them seem to outweigh the demand. Why else is the price so cheap.

Fuck the whole country must be annihilated. Jack Wow-call in TEAM AMERICA!!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!!

Chuck says:

Control to Dicer. Check your instruments. You are approaching permanent orbit status.

Dicer says:

Copernicus' dad: " Hey lad, when are you going to come to terms with the fact that the world does not revolve around you?"
Copurnicus: "It is a relief to see some more humour in individuals where one had once so seriously misconstrued jokes as spiritual dejection."
Copurnicus' dad: " And do you know where the world revolves?"
Copurnicus: " But how little they know of the world outside their experience, outside the pronoun "I".... and the ME ONLY cosmos."
Copurnicus' dad: "Don't be so humble, you're not that great."

Anonymous says:

check out usernames "redgal" and "a_dhicha " (no quotes) on Thailandfriends if you want to drop Netchanok Klinkesorn a line

longfarang says:

Two accounts in Thailandfriends is strange. The chat I had with her was not very clean. She was quite open about sex. But perhaps it's a trick to collect information about us? Or perhaps she is really an online ho?

old Uncle Monkey says:

G'damn! If Ms. Netchanok is actually guilty of everything charged, that'd win her a place as the 27th most irritating & brainless personality on this page. I've never seen such a troop of shitbrained fistfuckers in 40+ years as an unwilling connoisseur of farang mental defectives. All you boys rarin' to horsewhip this young woman should rush down to some place in Pattaya and stick pool cues up your asses.

Tod says:

Last night she went with some farang guy to the Toxic Club.
I spotted her there.
This girl is definitely an ugly ho with more pimples than any other Thai girl.

Adam says:

Whoever Tod is, and I am reasonably sure I know who u are, ur comment is out of order. She certainly has a skin condition, but so what? Is it fair to call her "an ugly thai ho"? No it isn't. I was the farang u saw with her......she is a friend, nothing more and she is not a "ho". Right now she is just a rather confused, perhaps not-so-smart, and very upset kid.

David suggested I offer facts to back up my claim that most of what he wrote was untrue. The first law of journalism is that it is up to the journalist to "prove" the facts....but then we are not talking about journalism are we.

However, one fact he did get wrong.....she posted in this thread asking to talk to David. No response.

I also made the point that even if guilty of all she is charged with she dos not deserve the level of shit that has been thrown at her...not especially by David...but by many of the commenters. Murderers have received less opprobium than this girl.

Give her a break and, maybe, some small benefit of the doubt.

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Hi Adam

1. If Khun Netchanok had had the decency to apologise, this would have been over long ago.

2. You continue to rubbish my story without being able to contradict any of it.

3. You are quite correct in supposing that I have no interest in talking to her privately.

4. She insulted our entire community so, if she wants to make a statement or an apology, she should make it here.

Regards
David

ah chek says:

posted on soc.culture.thai

mango sauce - play the ball and not the thai girl

Obviously the truth has hurt this typical Thailand based farang with
his brain in his prick.

He has been picking on the poor Thai teenage girl because she put up a
website expressing her opinion about farangs who desert wife and children in the west and travel thousands of
miles to screw bar girls in Thailand and think they are "living the
good life".

She is entitled to her opinion and he can debate her. Why pick on her?

The sob even doctored an unflattering pic of the girl.

I cant find a pic of him on his website. The bastard is ashamed to show
his face, and who can blame him .

If anyone has a pic of him, send it to me. I want to put up a pic of
him being shafted up his ass by a ladyboy.

Let's give the smug sob farang a taste of his own shit and deport him to his farking country.

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Hi ah chek

1. I merely quoted Khun Netchanok's own words back at her. If that made her look bad, it's her own fault.

2. She's not a teenage girl. She's an adult journalist in her early 20s.

3. I didn't doctor any photos.

4. Having you as her advocate doesn't advance her cause.

Regards
David

Johnny Tokyo says:

Can we cut the nonsense here and just get to a Thai translation for:
“You people can dish it out . . . but you sure as hell can’t take it”
ah chek ? Perhaps you could you could busy yourself with that for a while, ok?
Anyone?
And then, Netchanok you can apologize for your shameless self-serving promotion of hostility towards me and the thousands of other "foreigners" who bring hundreds of millions of dollars into Thailand each year. . . . as well as thousands of Thai women of every class and skin colour you smeared with your cheap shots when you ran that website.
And then I suppose we could all move on, couldn't we?

longfarang says:

I totally feel that we farangs are a bunch of pussies who get into panic as soon as a Thai girl is standing up against what we all know is going on here. Did we forget how the public opinion is back home?
I'm happily married to a Thai woman and at this point I feel more sorry for the young Thai woman Netchanok than for us mature hunks writing here. Sorry to you Netchanok!

Johnny Tokyo says:

So all these posts of yours defending this pimply little snake have been joint efforts ;-?
Nice.
Shades of Netchanok and Mortensen only this time it's YOU who is at the keyboard.
That. Or something like that, right?
So then it's OK, right?
This should be easy.
Use the links in the above article. Go to the sites and check that opportunistic snake's hate posts out. Show them to your cheering section and ask her what possible "cultural" excuse Netchanok has for not apologising.
(Love to hear that one ;-)

In other words, do some research and think about what you're doing before you scold us again.

And would you please drop this "pussy" thing ? These expressions have a way of ,um, whipping right back onto the user.

chrissl says:

i really hate this type of girl, if she doesnt like it them she should her nosey picking nose out of it.

i mean i dont interfere with the thai girls who come to england to fuck guys women dogs cats whatever, that is their bussiness.

anyway how can a pig like that comment on anything anyway, man she is ugly and thats without her finger stuck halfway up her nostril.
nuff said..............

benny liece says:

can we petition her new boss to sack the bitch?
and then the next one, and next and....

heck why not start a hate web site dedvoted soley to her?
anyone interested? i'm up 4 it!

Todd says:

Every night she is online in a cafe in Patpong until late night. You guess what is going on. Every morning she is late for work. She think I'm her friend. I'm sure her boss is pissed enough already.