Why do farang girls hate Thailand?

Claw Dagon says:

I feel not a whit of sympathy about Farang females
being lonely in Thailand.
The shoe is on the other foot here.
The Farang Ladies can no longer treat Men like doormats and get away with it.
Yes, few Thai Women speak English and having a deep conversation may be hard until you both learn more of each other's language.
But I prefer being treated with affection and respect by a sweet young Thai Woman than listen to a put-down of Men every five minute by some angry menopausal gringa with a law degree.
Face it, Western Women have lost any semblance of femininty.
They had it together, about 50 years ago.

Claw

Paul says:

Claw is clearly a sociopath who cannot deal with people on a normal level. Clearly unable to get laid at home he has to come to Bangkok and take advantage of his economically superior position and pay girls to touch his, no doubt bloated and disgusting body. get a life you sad shit.

clawdagon says:

Thank you Paul for such a insightful and wise response.
I can only guess you are a Farang FemiNazi masquerading as a Man on-line who is outraged that
Heterosexual Men are actually expressing their sexuality.
Gee after trashing Men for most of your Life you expect them to be attracted to you?
Make sure you don't run out on AA batteries.

Or perhaps you are a SNAG( Sensitive New Age Guy) fresh out of his "sensitivity" group who identifies with "Women's" pain and need to justify his existance.

Go reread your "Iron John" manual and get in touch with your feelings.
It's not my body that is bloated , heh heh!
I am going to find another sweet young Thai and with her willing help keep me happy.
I sure do love being loved and being on top on a sweet Thai YW whenever I want!

Claw

kaino says:

western women suck almost as much ass as paul. i definitely agree with claw.

Iman says:

I also definitely agree with Claw. Paul -- with respect -- you are either a loser or indeed some dumbnut feminazi coward masquerading as a man. Go back to your "cave" now.

Sharon says:

It is really sad the so many men are threatened by women having equal status and power. I do not believe that women should downgrade men, any more than I feel men should downgrade women. It is unfortunate that western men feel they can only be happy when they are worshiped by another human being-often going to other countries where women do not have the right of equal status. Get some self-confidence already.

yabs says:

They deserve all they get!
I was approached by a western girl in Phuket
who was obviously having a hard time with the lack of attention. She almost threw herself at me and said quietly in my ear that she and her mate were
out looking to get laid. i was in the star wars nightclub at the time in patong surrounded by few hundred thai lovelies. back in England obviously i thought it would be a dream come true to get a girl acting like this. however in Thailnd we have the upper hand so i decided to use it. I told her if that was the case that she was maybe in the wrong place and perhaps she should try her luck elsewhere. She looked like i had thrown molten metal in her face. This was beginning to give me far more enjoyment than shagging her ever would.
'What do you mean', she responded.
"i mean look around you' I relpied and pointed to all the thai ladies.
I continued to tell her how the arrogance of the western female had become increasingly offputting and thats why most males in the know were now coming to thailand. She then tried to come over all softly, softly and tried to explain she wasn't one of these types. She then put her arms around me and
whispered 'please' in my ear.
I was loving this. I finally pushed her away and said that i wasn't the slight bit interested.
I could see her the tears of humility rise in her eyes and then she stormed off.
I felt a feeling of power wash over me that i'd never felt before.
Western females do this to men all the time in the west and it was superb to be able to enact the same punishment.
She was lucky though. i could of got her to buy me drinks all night whilst pretending to be interested and then gone off with someone else and the end of the night!

mr peter says:

Great stuff Yabs, nearly fell off the chair laughing. It's great to hear about western slappers getting a taste of their own behaviour. I would love to do the same, but unfortunately I'm so unattractive even desperate fat arsed lardies ignore me, thank god-peter

earth says:

Yabs, thank you for doing the right thing. I can remember so clearly that I was treated countless number of times as doormat/shit/ghost by western woman. I wish more of them will get a taste of this then they will finally understand why men come to Thailand.

Hua Nguu says:

Backpacker chicks not desireable in Thailand?
That is definitely not my impression.
I have been living in thailand for several years and countless are the times thai guys have said to me that they wanted to try out a farang chick.
Likewise, backpackers tend to congregate in all the same places, Samui, Phangan, Tao, Chang, Krabi, Khao San Road etc etc. where they often outnumber the locals in their usual hangouts. And I have definitely never noticed that it should be a problem for a farang chick to find a farang guy for a night.
Now, if you are talking about the entertainment zones of Thailand. Patong, Patpong, Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya etc. that is entirely a different matter, but backpackers are usually not big on that scene anyway.

Cheers
Pescator

Nong says:

Oh please, it's easier for western women in Thailand than western men outside of the redlights, like Pescator said. I was asked out regularly by foreigners, sometimes Europeans and North Americans and often other foreigners. When it comes to Thais, you guys pay or at least need money to be considered boyfriend 'material'! It's really pathetic except for the extremely rare relationship between a Western man and Thai woman that isn't only disgust disguised (for financial security or a fee) as 'affection and respect'. I've never heard of a western woman having to pay a Thai man either. That's ridiculous. Thai men asked me out and when that didn't work some resorted to offering me money. Good luck with your STDs and keep dreaming.

Bob says:

I've laughed my ass off at your articals. I'm 54 years old, I live in a town in Calif. If you don't count married women and fat slobs, you are out numbered ten to one. So everything your saying hits home. I'll be in Thailand in twenty five days. Two weeks of heaven. Believe me, its get even time with western womens attitudes. I can hardly wait to see them topless on the beach in Ko Samui. I love reading your articales. If we run in to each other, by chance. I'll buy the drinks, guaranteed.
Bob

Tony says:

I agree wholeheartedly with every chauvanistic comment I have read so far. where in the west can you go and get your scrotem sucked inside out, by a gorgeous caramel skinned young woman for less than the price of a decent fucking t-shirt? Keep it up, who in their right mind would swap this for spending all night, and spending christ knows how much. Chatting up some pimple backed cellulite sow, only to get ditched at the end in favour of some prick with a rolex. Not me thanx .......chock dee!!!!!!!

stu_$ says:

err, im only 29 but i have had nothin but bad luck with ladies in my country (australia),
i wont say im handsome but i'm sure that im not ugly either...just normal
the amount of times i have been teased to breaking point then rejected at the last minute is more times than i care 2 remember,
i even had a farang lady down to her knickers once, she rubbed my crotch and said
"do you want it ? "
i blurt out "oh yeah !"
she pulls her pants on and walks out !

i have touched a farang since...and i do my best not to speak to them, i much prefer to crawl thru a dictionary with an isaan lovely
thailand rocks...long live the king
stu_$

Kevin says:

Western Girls Hate Thailand because the White Men here are NOT subservient slaves like in the pathetic west. How can you compare a sweet, young, thin, beautiful Thai girl to a swollen, sour attitude Farang Gril backpacker?

Western Women can't handle men who are not \
SUBSERVIENT.

They treat Western Men badly at home and outside
the White Countries then men don't want anything to do with them.

White Women go all over the world and try to tell White Men what to do.

THEY ARE PATHETIC and quit asking me to dance in Thailand.

KEVIN

Claire says:

You guys are all sick fucks. The only reason you are lucky with Thai ladies is because they want nothing more than your money. They dont care how ugly you are they only think in the dollar bills that are heading their way once you touch them. You are considered lucky here because you have more money than they do but guess what dont expect to be leaving the country without a baby, a thai woman their family and shit loadz of STD's. Have fun guys fuck all you can but dont you fucking dare to put us FARANG girls down!!!!!
Claire

Claire says:

I forgot to mention I love living here in Thailand and every day I think about those poor Thai girls that are forced to be prostitutes cause they need to support their family by fucking all these ugly horrible farang man. ( I am a happy Farang girl in a happy relationship with a nice farang man.) Oh and by the way how come I do get lots of stares by white man seems like they do miss the whites...

mr peter says:

Claire you live in thialnd but think TG's are forced to be prostitiutes? nobody is forced into selling pussy anymore than people are forced to work at 7/11. I have just come back from bkk and I just love so much seeing the looks on those sad falang bitch faces-never seen one smile yet. Surrounded by other women so much better looking they are really seems to piss them off, so it makes me wonder why they go to thailand let alone live there.
Maybe the looks you get are because nobody has seen such an ugly fat arse for while?-peter

Kevin says:

Dear FARANG GIRLS,

You just cannot stand white men who are not subservient like in your own home countries.

ANd STOP all the nonsense that only Thai Girls want money.

WHITE GIRLS want MORE $$$$$ but they can't admit the TRUTH.

Euro Girls go to Nambia, Spain, Grrece, Italy and some African countries to PAY FOR SEX WITH THE LOCAL MEN.

I have seen them in Greece, Thailand, WHEREVER.

LIke the DUTCH GIRLS SAID: Not your Boyfriend,
not your BUSINESS.

WHite Men are FREE to choose whoever they want and it is NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

GO back to Khao San road!!!!

Kevin says:

Dear NONG,

You're such a BITTER GIRL!!! Of course Farang men who can't speak Thai and want to be your LAPDOG will ask you out. You give it away for FREE, right.

Give me a BREAK. It is BETTER to pay for a Thai Girl, who doesn't have your WHITE GIRL SELF CENTERED ATTITUDE. That's the whole point that you just don't get!!!!

English girls in Samui, Lamai Beach, have Thai Boyfriends, so they think, and buy them clothes, watches, food, drinks, hand phones, and eveything
else they ask for. Just so the Thai Guys will hang around and SHAG them. I have seen it MYSELF.
Don't DELUDE yourself.

Swedish girls pay the African Guys on SOi 3 for sex
too.

I speak Thai, I lived in Samui with my Thai Girlfriend, and the Thai Guys at
a certain nightclub in Lamai told me how stupid the White Girls are thinking the Thai Guys are not after their $$$$$$$.

When I lived in Scandanavia, English girls were known for being the UGLIEST GIRLS in Europe.
Even English Movie Stars are nothing special to look
at.

Yes, Nong, Farang Guys ask you out, they can see you
let any Farang Guy pay for your drinks, food, whatever, then are forced to listen to your
SELF-CENTERED ATTITUDE all night.

What kind of a Farang Loser wants a girl like that?
Khao San backpackers who wash their clothes in a sink and stay in bungalow that cost 150 baht and think it's expensive.

Quit using the name NONG you are not a Thai Girl.

THAI GIRLS get what they want by being sweet, nice & pleasant, that is the main difference between Thai and Western Girls.

Farang Girls whine about a lifestyle Thai Girls could only dream of. Farang Girls turn everything into a confrontation. I am glad farang men ask you out.
Subservient Men deserve a girl with your attitude.

Obviously you, and many other Farang Girls, cannot handle a man who doesn't OBEY you. True too many Western Men are so "in touch with their feminine side, they are more feminine than their Western girlfriends".

And it is REALLY RACIST to think every Thai girl with a farang is a Hooker. That is what happens when Western Women get ignored, they need a ready excuse to make them feel better.

I KNOW lots of beautiful, middle class, educated Thai Girls who would like a Farang Boyfriend.
They just aren't as AGGRESSIVE as Western Women. They are shy about their English and you have to get to know them through their friends, then they will accept you. The Good Thai Girls don't jump into bed with every guy who buys them food & drinks like a Western Girl does.

I am sure a girl who thinks about herself so much,
YAH LUNG THOWAHENG, NAH!!! could never accept the fact that many Western Men just don't want a
BOSSY, MASCULINE WHITE GIRL who says the sex is free, after you have taken her to dinner 10 times, and obeyed her every command.

It is not sad that Western Men come here for Thai Girls, it is SAD that so many Western Men stay in their home countries and OBEY overweight, self centered white girls.

WOW, THANK BUDDAH I am rid of Girls like you forever.

I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU!!!

Kevin

Crash999 says:

Whoah... easy there cowboy! Methink someone slipped a little 'crazy drug' into your som tam.

Dhukka says:

JAYSUS! listening to some of the sad fucks that post here is comical. Personally I never subscribed to the theory that men who can't get laid in their own country come to Thailand - but this thread is eloquent proof.

Being used as a doormat, teased - a not too subtle admission that you are in fact a pathetic loser. Do you know why it's so easy to get laid back home? because guys like you have no clue. I know your type down to tee - the sad fuck who follows some hog around all night picking up her tab (and sometimes her mates) and paying her purile compliments in the hope of getting laid. Then a guy walks in chats to her for 10 minutes and they're out the door while your left with an empty pocket and another date with your hand.

Don't get me wrong I'm not a big fan of western women either, I'm quite partial to long dark hair and brown skin myself - I just feel sorry for those who had to come to Thailand to acquire a sex life.

Kevin says:

Dear DHUKKA & CRASH 999,

So anybody who prefers Thai Girls to Western Girls has something wrong with them? Or has a problem getting laid. Is that what you're saying?

How sad your mindset is. I can see you are very in touch with your feminine sides and the kind of guys who do whatever their Farang girlfriends tell them to do. I follow fat Farang girls around and pay their bills. You have been to "too many full moon parties" and dropped too much "e".
You have a bright future in comedy writing.

You should listen to the Dutch Girl I met on my first trip to Thailand, who instead of saying something bad about Farang Men who like Thai Girls, actually said : THIS IS WHERE I WOULD BE IF I WAS A GUY". Now there is a White Girl I can respect.

Ever considered that some men are FREE to choose who they want for their partner. I guess not.

You sound like some of the Farang women who sit up "like trained seals" an announce that any Western Man who isn't interested in them, has
"problems with Western women".

I had very nice Scandinavian Girlfriends when I lived in that area, now I prefer Thais'. Oops, I guess that means there is something wrong with me.

Sometimes I think these letters from Farang men are from Farang women trying to put their point across.

Ever considered that there are some Thai Girls who don't want a Thai Boyfriend "who steals money from their purse, doesn't want to work, drinks, gambles, sleeps around and rides around on a motorbike like a bigshot".

Does that mean there is something wrong with these Thai Girls because who don't choose Thai Men?

Freedom of choice is like Freedom of expression,
everyone has those rights. I guess if I am NOT
politically correct, I lose the right to think for myself.

You can have all the White Girls you want, and I will choose the Thais', but that seems to bother you.

If I am wrong, I am sorry, but WHY are you in Thailand if you love White Girls so much. Have you seen the White Girls who come here? Trying to tell all the Western Men what to do because they are JEALOUS and can't handle the competition.

If you like skiing you go to the best place, SWITZERLAND, if you like beautiful women who
don't act like men, and who are not trying to CONTROL you all the time, you come to Thailand.

I KNOW so many middle class Thai Girls who are educated, have good jobs, and just decent girls,
who are NOT interested in Thai Guys. And they don't need $$$$$.
Does that mean there is something wrong with them?

If you took the time to learn some Thai, and went to places where middle class Thai Girls go, you could meet girls like that too.

Why do you have to base everything on guys who run around with poor, uneducated farm girls?

Do you think Western Men go to Tahiti or Brasil
looking for White Women? Get real, it is a big world
out there, and many Western Men just won't
settle for a Western Girl, just because she
speaks English and is easy to talk to.

Understand? We have diferent points of view, but I will not tell you who you can choose for a Girlfriend. Can you say the same?

Bring on the bitter insults, unless you actually have an open mind.

Kevin

Kevin says:

Dear DHUKKA,

Just because I don't like self-centered, arrogant,

White Girls, doesn't mean I have been used by

them. I live in Thailand, but I don't sleep with

white girls just because they are so EASY and

speak English. It is not about SEX, it is THEIR

BOSSY, JUDGEMENTAL, ME FIRST ATTITUDE

that I resent. Especially the Euro Girls who come

here and JUDGE every White Guy they see.

I lived in SWEDEN so I know what they do

on Vacation. (Get drunk everyday & screw

everybody in sight)

Don't presume that you know me, I speak four

languages, can read the Thai characters and go

to Thai weddings, backstage to Thai concerts,

social events, art openings, etc, etc, because

I speak Thai well. Most places I go I see no

other Farang. I know a lot of Thai Superstar

Female Singers/Actresses because my best

friend is the #1 record producer in Siam.

So just because I don't like the WAY WHITE

GIRLS TREAT MEN, when I am in the USA or

Europe, doesn't mean you know anything about

me. O r that I am SUBSERVIENT like most

White Males.

White Girls are the easiest women in the WORLD

to sleep with, you want points for that? Any

BOZO who speaks English can sleep with White

Girls.

I find it RIDICULOUS that White Girls come

here, put the Thai Girls down, and PRETEND

they are free.

ABSURD. Thai girls don't have Alimony,

Palimony or False Sexual Harrasment lawsuits

like in the US.

Many Western Men who have been ripped off in

a divorce feel the same way.

So have FUN with the White Girls, now maybe

they will stop bothering me and asking me to

dance, just because I am White and they

can only speak English.

When you ONLY speak English you don't get

a true feeling for Thailand.

Most farang men in Thailand don't make the

effort to meet the GOOD THAI GIRLS, who have

and education, good jobs, and don't want $$$$.

But then most Farang I meet in Siam are Liars,

, Posers, Losers, or criminals who cannot return

to their own country. They only WISH they knew

the THAIS I know.

Learn the language and forget about

uneducated, eternally broke farm girls.

KEVIN

KEVIN

C. Sandesist says:

KEVIN: Now we talkin'! I hear you, man... Check out my post under "Losing The Plot" by Chuck Woww (names say a lot, don't they?). And look at how "TANAI KWAI" re-acted for a chuckle. C ya.

KEVIN says:

Dear TANAI KWAI & C. SANDIEST,

I speak Thai very well, but I would never use the

term FLUENT. However, a Farang can learn

Thai, have FUN with it and have a reasonably

good accent.

I LOVE the Thai Language, speak it everyday ,

not only in Thailand, but in LA too.

Ready for me to "pull my chain".? Twice

Thais' have told me I speak like a Thai,

but I know I will never speak "just like a Thai",

I am happy to have a decent Thai accent.

A Taxi driver once told me I speak Thai

CLEARER than JONAS ANDERSON.

I LAUGHED. As long as they understand me,

and I speak POLITE THAI, I am happy.

I have done so many FUN things in Siam

because I speak

Thai CONVERSATIONALLY, that I have been

VERY LUCKY to be invited to their homes, to

parties and interesting places by so many

Thais.

I THANK THEM FOR THAT.

I am still having FUN learning Thai Characters

and when I once thought they were too difficult,

I am SURPRISED I can read them.

BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF WORK. I never said I

can read WAR & PEACE in Thai, but I really do

love learning Languages, always have.

I only learn Thai from Thais' and I have FUN

playing around with LAO also.

I applaud any Farang who learns Thai. Too many

only speak English and MISS OUT on so much

of Thai Culture.

Take Care, KEVIN

TANAI KWAI says:

Kevin,

Far too many farangs who have achieved even modest proficiency in Thai do not reflect your humility and gratitude.

KEVIN says:

Dear TANAI KWAI,

I LOVE living in Thailand and we Farang

are LUCKY to be here. Farang and Thai

alike should be more friendly, and understand

that none of us are PERFECT.

Thanks for your kind words.

WOW, I feel

sorry for "Thai Man" that he is ANGRY all the

time. He is SCARY. Is there any Farang

he doesn't hate? I must ASSUME he is not

a Buddhist with that attitude.

I hope he will learn to accept all people

AND THEIR OPINIONS.

I will alway be ETERNALLY GRATEFUL TO THE

THAIS FOR LIVING HERE.

If Thai Man goes to America I hope he will

be treated well also. Thai Man, is it impossible

for you to be friends with a Farang? I like

being friends with Thais', I hope one day you

meet a Farang you do not HATE!!!

KEVIN

Combover says:

If I was a white girl I'd be off to Jamaica for my two weeks summer holiday every year.

I feel a sense that Thai (or Asian) women are to white women what black men are to white men. In each case there is often a feeling of hostility because of a fear (or knowledge) of some inadequacy in themselves.

C. WOWW says:

Hi C.Sandesist. You obviously know your stuff when it comes to pasar Thai maybe you can help me with something. This goes back to Hand Jive's original comment about my nom de plume.
He thinks chuckwow means handjob which we both know is incorrect. It's actually means kite flying. I suggested handjob in Thai would be nganmeu but on second thoughts I'm not sure. My question is...how would one say 'manual labour' in Thai? Hope you can help. Thanks in advance......CW

tonychang says:

....and how would one say "picking flowers" (one for the lay-dees)?

C. Sandesist says:

To David, Kevin, C. Woww, Tonychang and Tanai Kwai,

David: Just a quick shout out to you, man, as this is your site and all... Good fun! Khob Khun.

Kevin: We're definitely kindred souls regarding our feelings about living with and communicating with Thai people. Your frank and honest approach to expressing yourself about these things is to be commended. Khob Khun. By the way, Jonas Anderson doesn't speak Thai that clearly, and I have no doubt that you do speak more clearly than he or even Todd Thongdee does. I once saw 5 of these well-known (in Thailand) Thai-speaking farang together on a game show and when quizzed about the meanings of some fairly basic Thai idioms and slang references, all of them were clueless! Keep on smiling and keep up the good work.

C. Woww: I shouldn't have judged your book. That was "lame" of me. Please forgive me. Back to the language thing... I hope I don't further embarrass myself here. Of course 'chuck wow' means "fly a kite" and not handjob. There's even an old played-out joke about 'phom pai chuck wow thee Sanaam Luang', or something along those lines. Similar to how 'tdok bait' can mean something about fishing, but also (mostly) about a woman getting herself off. As far as I know, 'manual labour' is usually called 'rang ngaan' and the one who does it is called a 'kamakorn' (labourer). Hope that helps and that you weren't just pulling my leg. Also hope to get a chance to read your book someday.

Tonychang: Guess you could say 'gep dok mai' (technically, 'det dok mai'. That's also how Thai women used to excuse themselves to go take a leak. For a man it was 'ying kratdai' (shoot a rabbit).

And last but not least, Tanai Kwai: Speaking of someone having "gone native", what does your name mean (to you) anyway? If it has something to do with a buffalo ('khwai'), based on your other posts, I guess I can understand where you're coming from. But you lost me with the spelling and also by combining it with Tanai (could you have meant 'Thanai' (lawyer)? By the way, those looks that you and your expresso-colored girlfriend are getting from Thai people are not because they think she's "smoking hot". Far from it! Actually, never mind.

TANAI KWAI says:

C. Suckingmyballs: The stench of you simmering in your own juices is appalling. Stop obsessing about my post. You've obviously learned your lesson about being so insufferable since you are now licking ass with the best of them.

First you crap all over people then change your whole approach when someone holds up a mirror. You really should thank me, friend. Now get back down there and finish up. There must be someone on this board whose ass hasn't received a thorough sloshing.

C>WOWW says:

Khun Sandesist...thanks for 'rang ngan'. Always happy to learn something. As for your description of my book as 'lame' I'm not sure what to say. I don't think David's website is the place for me, as author, to be discussing the merits or otherwise of "Losing the Plot". 'Lame' does seem to be a curious word to use in a literary context especially since you haven't read the book but no harm done. I might even get some mileage out of it. Cheers....CW

Mick Channon says:

Tanai Kwai - I'm tired of your bullshit. You seem to be picking fights with just about everyone on this site. Meet me in Lumpini park for a straightner (fist fight, unless you want to spice it up a bit). None of my horses are running in the next two weeks so pick your date. I'm going to silence your whinging ass for good.

John U says:

Mick,

Did you use to play football for Southampton????

There can't be two Mick Channons surely???

John

C. Sandesist says:

One LAST word for Tanai Khwai: Whatever.

TANAI KWAI says:

Uh, okay "Mick Channon"/C. Sandlickmyself.

Hope you're having fun creating different personas now that you've perceived that nobody real cares.

"Meet me in Lumpini park for a straightner (fist fight, unless you want to spice it up a bit)."

Christ, who else but you writes like this? I wouldn't be in such a hurry to criticize C>WOWW -- your fiction SUCKS. Behind a workmanlike effort to disguise your "voice" you are still the same desperate, last-picked-on-the-playground" douchebag. I'm glad you speak some good Thai -- maybe if enough people ask you how to translate "hand job" or "twat tickling" you'll focus your efforts more productively. Seventeen years well spent.

"You seem to be picking fights with just about everyone on this site."

You are deeply confused; hoisted on your own petard of cloning yourself. If you were to keep clumsily reinventing yourself and I were to continue exposing you I suppose your moronic statement that I am picking fights "with just about everyone on this site" would ring increasingly true.

In the future, however, I will avoid engaging you or "Mick" or "Hemorrhoid Sam" (or whatever the next one you pull out of your ass is called) lest you be encouraged to pollute these boards with ever-taller mounds of shit.

(winky)

John U says:

Well, if you're right Tanai Kwai, I feel a bit of a twat thinking Mick was an old footballing hero of mine.

However, he can do this by not providing his email address can't he?

So he's a gutless cunt, just like you and all the other gutless cunts who are scared shitless of putting their email address to their writings.

KEVIN says:

DEAR C. SANDIEST,

Thanks for your compliment. I hope the

people on this website, THAI & FARANG alike,

will proceed, to have open discussions, as we

should, but not to fight with each other.

I will try to be diplomatic too, because even

if I do not agree with everything said here,

we all have a Right to our say.

Good Luck to all. And to the Thais', just because

we criticize something doesn't mean we don't

like Thailand, only that we want things to change

for the better, esp. for the Thai people.

To the THAIS' THANK YOU for letting us live

here, NEVER FORGET, we FARANG LOVE MANY

THINGS ABOUT THE THAI CULTURE!!!!

KEVIN

KEVIN says:

DEAR COMBOVER,

What are you trying to say? That anyone

who prefers Thai Women has some problem?

Just curious, we all have our opinions, right!!

By the way, have you ever been to Jamaica?

A friend who has been all over the planet once

told me the COUNTRY he would never go back to

is JAMAICA. Maybe you should visit and then

give me your assesment.

White Women who go to Jamaica, he told me,

go for sex with Black Men, and give them

money.

Fair enough. I read an article about a Bar in

Japan, where lonely Japanese Housewives

pay go-go Boys for sex, and fight over them,

just like farang do here.

To each his own.

Anybody ever been to Jamaica? Let me know

what it is like.

KEVIN

KEVIN says:

Dear CLAIRE,

I am happy for you that you have a good

relationship with a Farang man. SO WHY are you

so UPSET & clearly JEALOUS that Farang men

men have so many beautiful Thai Girlfriends?

You are TYPICAL of White Women who go around

the world telling White Men what to do.

IF it is not your boyfriend, it is not your

business.

White Women want MONEY TOO, I hate to

break it to you!!! All WOMEN WANT $$$$$$.

You show me just "ONE COUNTRY IN THE

WORLD" where the women do not want $$$$$$$

and the planes will be full 24 hours a day

with Western Men going there.

White Girls come to Thailand and when they

discover the White Men here are not

"SUBSERVIENT" and threatened with ALIMONY,

PALIMONY & BOGUS SEXUAL HARASSMENT

LAWSUITS

like in their home countries, and they say all the

things you said "to cover their insecurity".

I have been to over 50 different countries, and

Western Men receive BETTER TREATMENT in

every single country, outside of Europe, the USA

& Australia. Feminism has really screwed

up the White Girls and taught them that "MEN

ARE THE ENEMY"!!!!!

It has nothing to do with MONEY, but that does

make White Women feel better.

One night I heard a bunch of Farang Guys saying

that Thai Girls only want MONEY. An older man,

standing nearby, said, "Excuse me young men,

may I say something". Of course they replied.

The Older Man uttered these WISE WORDS

OF EXPERIENCE, "AMERICAN WOMEN HAVE

STOLEN 3 HOUSES FROM ME, WHAT ARE THE

THAI GIRLS GOING TO DO, THAT HASN'T

ALREADY BEEN DONE"? INDEED!!!

And to all the White Girls who always talk

about MONEY. I have heard from a Journalist

friend, there is a book being written called

"FEMALE SEX TOURS" about all the places White

Women go in the world and pay the local men

for sex.

Can you handle the TRUTH?

We will see. Why is it that ONLY WHITE WOMEN

believe in the fairy tale that "sex is FREE".

Men always pay one way or another".

Some men want sex, but don't want to get

married or

have a relationship. And they certainly don't

need the permission of JEALOUS White Women

who they have NEVER EVEN MET.

Why do you have "such a hard time accepting

that Men are free to choose who they want"?,

And so do you. LIVE & LET LIVE, can you do

that?

KEVIN

Combover says:

My point was nothing to do with the rights or wrongs of liking Thai (or Asian) women.

Merely, supporting the point that some western women are hostile towards Asian women and the men that are attacted to them.

Perhaps they feel threatened and insecure that their inability to compete on a physical basis with Thai girls is not overcome by what they see as superior mental compatability with "their" men. Therefore, in their minds the men and the Thai girls are at fault.

Similarly, some white men feel insecure about white women dating black men because of their own insecurities about penis size or whatever.

I see nothing wrong in middle aged (or any aged) white women going to Jamaica to bang beautiful, athletic young black men for money, just as I see nothing wrong with their male counterparts doing the same with lovely young brown girls in Thailand. That was the point of my (admittedly facetious) opening comment.

For the record I like Thai women.

Also I have been to Jamaica on more than one occasion. In fact I lived there as a kid. Jamaica is a beautiful country and in parts it is very dangerous (Kingston). In most places though it is pretty safe and people are as genuine and friendly as you would find anywhere. My main problem with the place is that so many resorts are "all inclusives" and the tourists never really see the real Jamaica, or spend their money with the local people who need it.

KEVIN says:

Dear COMBOVER,

Got it, now I UNDERSTAND. Thanks for

clearing that up.

I say "TO EACH HIS OWN AND EVERYBODY

HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHOEVER THEY

WANT FOR A PARTNER, LOVER, FRIEND, WIFE,

WHATEVER"

WHY do so many White Women get UPSET

if we Farang Men choose a Local Girl over them?

This seems to happen all over the world.

Does anybody remember the White Girl's

reaction in SUZY WONG, when William Holden

didn't fall in love with her "as she planned".

She got VERY NASTY about the ASIAN GIRL.

It's still happening, even when it is just an

ordinary Thai Girl. Oh well!!!

Take Care, Kevin

C. Sandesist says:

To John U:

Mick Channon might very well be your footballer. Tanai Kwai has Lost The Plot. Maybe he's just exhausted from all that having to "shoo away Italians and Thai policemen" from his LBFM!

TANAI KWAI says:

"Well, if you're right Tanai Kwai, I feel a bit of a twat thinking Mick was an old footballing hero of mine."

I keep hoping "Dan Marino" shows up. Loved that guy ever since the Dolphins drafted him in '83.

"However, he can do this by not providing his email address can't he?"

Yes, he could -- and, surprise, surprise now he has! Congrats C. Sblowingyourself, you are now one of the cool kids! By the way, aren't you going to include the e-mail for "Mick"? Surely he's got some balls as well.

"So he's a gutless cunt, just like you and all the other gutless cunts who are scared shitless of putting their email address to their writings."

While I won't deny I'm a gutless cunt, including one's e-mail address is hardly a test of manhood. [For one of those check out Richard Harris in "A Man Called Horse" -- he plays an English aristocrat captured by Dakota Sioux in 1825. He comes to adopt their way of life and eventually becomes tribal leader--but not before undergoing savage initiation rituals, such as being suspended by blades inserted beneath his pectoral muscles.] A fellow gutless cunt (jahjahlove@hotmail.com) reminds me that any jerk-off can go to hotmail.com and reserve gutlesscunt@hotmail.com with spineless anonymity. Some particularly rudderless jerk-offs might even establish several of these addresses, thus making sure identification more difficult but for their inescapably stilted, Dashiell-Hammett-with-severe-brain-injury writing style.

Having said all of that I do appreciate that as a matter of protocol and good breeding -- and in the spirit of community -- it would not be a bad idea to include an e-mail address. I will undertake to devise an address shortly after I prepare myself mentally and spiritually to "put it all on the line" thusly. It'll feel good to finally have some skin in the game.

John U says:

The catch is you have to use your own name to qualify as a Super Hero Internet Tiger.

I'll leave you to work out the short form. Smiley emoticom here.

(What is the fucking word? I just can't think of it. Must be my age. I keep thinking anagram, but know that's wrong. Somebody will put me out of my misery I'm sure) Angry emoticom here.

TANAI KWAI says:

If it's your own name I think it's an eponym.

If you are going by C. Slurpingmyself I think that's a pseudonym, or a nom de plume or, in some instances, a nom de clef.

John U says:

You missunderstand. I didn't make it that clear did I?

A word made from the initial letters of a phrase. e.g Super Hero Internet Tiger = SHIT.

TANAI KWAI says:

Got it. That's an "acronym."

John U says:

Thanks.

That's enough of that, we're raising the fucking tone here. It just won't do !

Mick Channon says:

Tanai, John - you two fuckers should meet up and get married or something. Enough of this on line dick sucking. I'll take both of you on in Lumpini park - fists only (that is, if you haven't got them stuck up each others arses).

By the way, one of my horses is running in a few weeks in the 4.50 at Newmarket. Get on it. You can get 14-1 now but it'll go in to 5's.

TANAI KWAI says:

C. Sandblowahorse, or should I say "Nathan" -- that is your real name, isn't it?

Well, you've goaded me out of my infinite state of haughty rebuke to pay you a compliment. You have invested much time going from post to post, doing your level best to copy others' words as you struggle to cobble together a personality. You have really started to show some initiative -- much like a pimply teenager spending countless hours on his haunches trying to blow himself.

Why not just embrace who you are -- an incredibly unimaginitive man who likes to fuck horses and knows how to demand hot horse-sex in Thai? After all, it takes all kinds.

I think there are probably some tough guys somewhere on the internet. You aren't one of them. (Unless, of course, the new breed of Ultimate Fighting Champions go around specifying "fists only" like a bunch of effeminate paralegals.)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE euthanize "Mick" and come up with someone new. The Cockney anti-intellectual horsefucker idiom doesn't really suit you.

Here are some suggestions for future personae:

1. "Ass Licker" -- This fella likes to lick everyone's ass to curry favor from online strangers (Oops -- my bad -- you already did that one.)

2. "Toothy French Vagina" -- This Gal is ANGRY... and French!

3. "FRIENDLY YANK" -- This guy's friendly... but curiously, not American. He just wants to give you a handjob while whispering sweet nothings in your ear. As a bonus, he sprinkles in impeccable Thai colloquialisms that took 17 years of begging for mercy fucks to learn.

4. "I'M PROJECTING" -- This one projects his fantasies of dual man-on-man fist-fucking sessions on people who are trying to have a conversation.

Anyway, that ought to get you started, dipshit.

(winky)

C. Sandesist says:

Sorry David, Mick, and everyone else who used to enjoy this site before Mr. Kwai started flooding the comments areas with his babbling and blustering. I may have inadvertantly egged him on and now his panties are in a knot or something. Perhaps it was my comment regarding how ludicrous it is that he thinks Thai men find his LBFM attractive? Mick: I don't know why he thinks I'm using your name, but if you ever run across this loser please use your feet as well as your fists to shut him up for a while. OK folks, brace yourself for some more un-enlightening drivel from this dorky idiot after he sees this. I'll do my part by not saying anything for a while and hopefully he'll dry up and blow away. TK: Shhhhhhh...

TANAI KWAI says:

Ri-i-ight... I'm blustering but you're the one wanting to fist-fuck innocent men in Lumpini Park?

So let me get this straight: You are STILL representing that "C. Sandesist" and "Mick" aren't the same person?

Is that why your horsefucker Mick made nary a comment in protest when I accused him of being a figment of your diseased little mind? Instead, you just offered up another steamingly bad Michael Caine impression. God-DAMN, you aren't even good at masturbating are you?

I accuse "Mick" of not even existing and he goes into a schtick about some horse he wants to fuck at Lumpini Park. (I'd love to know the name of that horse you say you are running. I'm guessing he's got a muscular, sweaty ass.)

To clear up any confusion about whom I am addressing, I'll just call you "Nathan," the name on your passport.

Nathan, why do I make such sport of your schizophrenia? Because in a forum like this there isn't much worse you can do than to make up other identities to bolster your feebly devised and ill-considered opinions. It is even more damaging than your abject lack of anything interesting to say.

Sure, this business of posting on mangosauce.com is but a small diversion in this vale of tears. And yes, you are entitled to voice your opinions about the excerpts from "Losing the Plot," and to make breezy pronouncements about the quality of the author's art... Just as I am entitled to run a train through your ass for being arrogant and intellectually lazy.

But Nathan, when you bring "Mick" into the picture you cross a line that takes you beyond gutless cunt and into the realm of, well... cuntless gut.

Look around at this board, Nathan. THAI MAN wouldn't piss down Kevin's throat if his guts were on fire. But have you seen LAO MAN and CAMBODIA MAN show up to triangulate support for THAI MAN'S hopelessly provincial viewpoints? I think not.

You know the worst part -- for you, I mean?

You now have to post for both C. Sassfuckingagelding AND "Mick" if you want to maintain your tedious charade. For a lazy guy like you that's going to be a four-legged bitch.

But I think you've already tumbled to that conclusion.

(winky)

Mick Channon says:

Tanai

I've re-read your latest rant and for the life of me I can't make head nor tail of what you're trying to say. Get back on your medication you mad cunt. And by the way, the horse in the 4.50 at Newmarket's a cert. It's gone in to twelves but take it. The way things are going it could go off evens.

Kind regards

Mick

Richard says:

And what authority do any of you have defining the meaning of "love" ? I look for those who believe in the same meaning as I do - regardless of what "everyone else" believes.

TANAI KWAI says:

TIME TO EAT A WARM PLATE OF CROW DRIZZLED WITH HORSE POO LICQEUR...

Ok, Mick Channon. You have me convinced I need to get back on my medication. And yes, I am a mad cunt.

Your last transmission reflected far too much legitimate savvy to be the creation of poor Nathan. (When I read it, I grew alarmed, given that Nathan's expertise is in the area Thai colloquialisms for masturbation.) Apologies, Nathan, I shall never overestimate you again. (I will, however, continue to taunt you as appropriate.)

Mick, you write:

"And by the way, the horse in the 4.50 at Newmarket's a cert. It's gone in to twelves but take it. The way things are going it could go off evens."

Now if this horse were truly Nathan's I suppoose its most prominent tendency would be "always in rear." But Mick's final tip led me to question my crack sleuthing.

In America, of course, we have pari-mutuel betting since we've done away with fixed-odds bookies. The totalizations are out of the hands of individuals. In any case, I could see that Mick obviously knew something about equines.

Most admirable is that Mick was too much of a gentleman to put me in my place in the most simple and direct manner available...

John U. was absolutely correct: MICK CHANNON IS, IN FACT, THE GREAT FOOTBALLER OF SOUTHAMPTON LORE!!! (I would like to think I could show such restraint but I rather doubt it. If I were Mick Channon everyone would know it.)

Mick now dedicates himself to the breeding of horses. He also happens to be astonishingly successful in this endeavor. Read on and follow the links to "Where are they now?":

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/bob.dunning/mickchan.htm

Not to be an online dick-sucker but I am pleased to be in the company of someone of such extraordinary accomplishment.

I shall now skulk away in shame.

With kind regards,

Mad Cunt

TJ says:

My sweet Teerak is a middleclass girl from BKK. She never asked me for money, until she quit her job, moved to Norway with me, and had to stay some time back in BKK after that. She dont ask for much, she even got a job while she was there, so I didnt have to give her money,

She is polite, loving and caring, dont try to be equal me, but demands respect, love and affection in a way. Just like me. She never demand me to NOT use my money for what I want. She's never hungry, she have what ever she wants etc, but she dont use sex as a prize for doing the 'right things'.

My Teerak is pretty. She could find a rich man. But she met me.

I am an average NOrwegian lad, handsome too, just 30, earn well, divorced a local girl some years ago. She was sexy too. and clever and smart.

All woman wants money, secure future etc. All men want a nice attitude and respect.

Too many Farang girls act like bitches. Too many Teeraks dont.

I love my Teerak. Only her. I could choose any girl, not because I am rich, but because I treat people with respect.

If farang girls look at themself out in clubs in Europe/US, thay know why more and more men chose a SE Asian girl.

And became happy.

TJ says:

NO more TW for me!

rob says:

hey Kevin, you said that you knew of farang girls had Thai boyfriends in Samui and Lamai Beach. I just wanted to know if this was just a few girls with Thai boyfriends or this type of relationship was very prevalent there, and throughout Thailand for that matter. Thanks.

sunglasses Ron says:

OF COURSE ITS FUCKIN MICK CHANNON YOU STUPID FUCKERS

for christs sake who else would want to be that daft arm spinning janner twat?

better than his horses than micky quinn though, fat tashed horse buggering cretin (though he did model a lovely line of suits for mr Byeritr in teh early 90's)

anyway - fuck em both, nice black footballers, love then, FAKKIN LAV EM

T.J says:

fucking great reading you guys especially tony,dark and kevin. what a pisser of a site.!

Dibble says:

On the white women backpackers (oooh, sorry 'travellers'. LOL) going to Asia for a fuck - check out the fat hairy leggedy bitches that turn up in Nepal.

The only time I see the fuckers happy in Thailand is in the Departure lounge at Don Muang.

Cynic says:

Hey TJ where did you meet your teelak?

yabs says:

what i've experienced is this.
You take a western bird out and you immediately feel as if yuo are a performer. you have to entertain and it is wholyy a one way street. its what you can do for them, not once does a white falang slag ever try and contribute to the evening.
It is all about how funny or entertaining you are.
Soon as you fail to make them life like a comedian then they are off, simple as that.
When i've taken a thai lady out (non working girls i may add) they haev contributed as well, by making jokes and being genuiney intersted in you and wanting to make an impression on you.
The falang attitude is like "yeah I know you want to get into my knickers, so what are you going to do to earn it, and i bet i can make you do just about anything to get what you want, because we have what you want".
In thailand the attitude is more like
" I can't believe you are intesrested in me,
i want to know all about you and if you treat me well i will go out of my way to be treat you well.
How can i make you happy!"
theres a big difference.
And yes they are not scared of the traditional female and male role. they are feminine and proud of it rather than being a ladette!
falangs you have a lot to learn.
Just in case you look down on the thai "prostitutes though hear this.
this is a direct quote of a girl i knew at university.
After graduation she said
" I'm a bit dissapointed as i came to university to find a guy who is going to make it big and be rich like a lawyer or a doctor, I havn't found that guy.
I can't go out with you as I don't think you are going to be rich"
hmm and the difference here between a bar girl and this girl is??????????

Happy Joey says:

Farang womendont like Thailand prehaps when they see the Thai girls they most notice whoever made or design thai girls only gave them one cunt little ass not like farang women whogot realbig asses

Hppy Joey

NedKelly says:

The question - Why do farang girls hate Thailand ? Well I dont really know that they do, but based on the little information I have from the ones I know, they hate Thailand when they get treated like second class citizens by the Thai people they work with. One friend gets called into her bosses office to answer complaints from other staff about her dress sense. (she dresses smartly) How fucking bitchy it that ? The other one I know said she was pissed off with the hypocrisy and two faced behaviour of Thais.

In realtion to what some punters say here about farang girls. Being a farnag man I understand your viewpoints. Thailand is a paradise full of eye candy. But sometimes when I see a beautiful farang girl I find myself wishing for a piece of that too !! :)

firestarter says:

A wife is just a legal whore.

Anonymous says:

To FIRESTARTER : Your mother without any doubt!
LOL!
But my wife -no, my mother -no! My sister -no...
I respect the other.I respect the woman .What the hell! I'm so original in this freak place!

don says:

without getting too wordy, or into a sociological debate about why I prefer asian women... when I say "why have hambuger, when you can have Kung Pao Chicken?", men seem to always understand my preference.

learning says:

TO ALL THE STUPID MOLES WHO HAVE BEEN RUNNING DOWN THAI GIRLS HERE'S A QUOTE. "You guys are all sick fucks. The only reason you are lucky with Thai ladies is because they want nothing more than your money. They dont care how ugly you are they only think in the dollar bills that are heading their way once you touch them." THERE YOU GO RUNNING MEN DOWN AGAIN AND YOU HAVEN'T STOPPED AT US BLOKES YOU EVEN MANAGED TO GET ONE OFF ABOUT THE LOWER THAN YOU THAI GIRLS. US BLOKES ARE GOING THERE HAVING A GOOD TIME
AND JUST MAYBE THE GIRLS AND THE BLOKES HAVE SOME NEEDS FOR FILLED. YOU STUPID MOLES ACTING LIKE YOUR SO MUCH BETTER THAN MEN AND WOMEN YOU DEEM UNFIT FOR YOUR SISTERHOOD. FUCK OFF BACK TO UNI.

Kristina says:

It's so funny to read all of the comments from men about the fat and ugly farang women in Bangkok. Are there ANY attractive farang men living in Bangkok. I certainly haven't seen any. The funny thing is, my female Thai friends (who happen to be gorgeous) agree with me. As far as I'm concerned, knock yourselves out, take 10 wives here. Be Happy! And you're absolutely right Bangkok is No place for a farang girl or a Thai girl (with a choice), SLIM PICKENS!! I feel sorry for my friends I have to leave behind when I go back to the states. I promised I'd send some better male representatives of the west to visit. I know so many great guys there.

Abrak says:

Kristina,

So very right and sooo very wrong.

First you are right - farangs are very spoilt in this country, just like you are very spoilt in America. Farang guys can get all sort of great girls who wouldnt give them the time of day in the USA. So it is not surprising that farang guys run around like kids in a candy shop.

But where you are very wrong - is to send all those 'great guys' over here. I guarantee a few weeks here and those 'great guys' will be having a different girl every night and lovin' it. So my advice is - if you want to keep 'em 'great', keep very very quiet about Thailand!!

Cynic says:

Kristina:

I first lived in Thailand for about a year at the age of 23. At that time there were very few Farang men under 30 years of age here. I came back aged 29 and am living in the same apartment complex. There are now heaps of good looking guys in their twenties living there. Most of them have Thai girlfriends. Most of them have chosen to live here after initially coming for a holiday.

At the same time - you should not waste a second worrying about someone who claims they will only sleep with Asian women. Never let other peoples narrow mindedness cause narrow mindedness in yourself.

Are all Farang women in Thailand fat and ugly? No. Are all Farang men in Thailand old and decrepit? No.

TANAI KWAI says:

Cynic,

To clarify, are you suggesting that the amount of young male farang models has markedly increased in the last six years, since just 1998?

Or are you merely saying, as an aside, that you returned to Thailand at age 29 -- but that it has, in fact, been longer than six years since the phenomenon you describe has manifested?

(...)

Combover says:

Kristina - show this to your friends to remind them what else they're missing back home...

http://www.glossynews.com/artman/publish/we-should-be-chicks-698.shtml

Just to back up a couple of other comments; there certainly is a surfeit of aging, ugly, balding, sweating, whoring, losing-the-plot, wannabe casanova-cum-rock-stars in Bangkok. But surely the most galling thing is that you don't even get a sniff of a chance with the fit, bright, funny, interesting, well-travelled, younger candidates, In fact - they show so little interest in you that you don't even know that they exist, let alone suspect that they might be all over the cooler parts of Bangkok with their Thai girlfriends.

Cynic says:

Tanai:

Yeah, I think there are more young guys here than when I first arrived. Well at least where I live, which is the same place I lived in 97/98. At that time I was considered 'young'. Now I know 21 year olds who have been living in Bkk off and on for 2 or 3 years. I'm not referring to male models either, although in my building there are a few of them around as well.

The main thing I'm trying to point out to Kristina is that plenty of the farang males who choose to make Bangkok their home are not here because the women of the West reject them, as she seems to imply.

Lastly, although I've been married to a Thai girl for a long time now, if things ever went awry I would not be restricting my romantic efforts to Asian women.

Combover - nice and concise!

the dragon says:

how cute and amusing. Listen there are a few nice white women, you just need to pick them up by their nipples and speak to them correctly.
Only fat white women should go to Jamaica, or rich skinny white women, but they are snorting coke on the riviera.
Now if I was in Phuket and was approached by a nice white women who was begging (properly mind you) and offering her frined as well, both slender, I would lift them by their nipples for a bit of a chat. See if they ahd the proper attitude for my tastes.

Now do I think ALL women should be submissive? NO!

my god there are far too many wankers out there who need a good beating and bit of a strap-on up the bunghole to think we could get by without some bitches.

My finacee is Chinese. She is quite domineering to whimps she orders about and the young ladies she brings around as gifts to me. She loves being whipped by me.

Now I know I am not your run of the mill gent, but I am handsome and even charming. I am even quite polite to those women who are not my cup of tea. When tehy are real ball busters, they fall into two groups; ones I walk away from and ones who are looking for a man who will slap them down and fuck their throats,then tell them that is not good enough "I said esophagus!"

Thosof us who are white think we should be priveldged. We get it drummed into us everyday. Trailer trash whore who find true love as a whore (Pretty woman with whats her face and Richard Gere).

Cinese are raised to tell you every 15 minutes how they have 6000 years of history, of course few of them know ANY of it nor the fact that most of the stuff was burned a couiple of times and there are massive gaps. They know THEY are better.

We all know the joke of the French man fucking the dead woman and saying "Oh I thought she was English." because the limey gits know thsoe frogs are sub-human.

I love French women who know how to use a razor which seems to be only 1 in 100 and I have heard rumors of French men who are human.

Of course Thai women are perfect.

This is why the only country in the world which has hospitals specializing in sewing your cock back on are in Thailand.

Yes American have the Bobbit girl. but trust me most American or English women only rip your balls off through your wallet.

Gentlemen, you need only pay more attention to your women. Pay attention every day. When she gains that extra pound, tie her up and whip her ass then fuck her. If you cannot last more than 10 minutes and most of you wankers can only last 1 to 3 minutes, then you need to bring over a few friends to fuck that extra fat off her.

Ladies stop getting pissed off when men find women who like tham, for love, money, big cocks or whatever. You are fucking those other men for love, money, bigger cocks or ....?

the submissive asian woman only exists before she is married, unless you are dominant and keep up the whipping. Even then, trust me she is still a myth.

Western white women are far more submissive in general, after you get past the noisy opening credits.

And for you feminists who were spouting about equality, show me the man you would allow to be equal with you.

What woman is going to be stupid enough to give up that much power.

as Nick Notle said

Women have half the money and all the pussy.

Drew says:

Just to clarify. No, I'm not a girl or a or some "sensitive guy". Lets just say that I've experienced both worlds of having multiple girlsfriends (both Thai and American). I can speak fluent Thai and understand Thai culture a lot better than most farangs. Let me tell you something. If you "khii nok's" would bother learning the language and go after girls other than bar girls or prostitutes, then you would realize that Thai girls are exactly the same as American girls. Yes, they do have feelings. Yes, they can be demanding and whiney. But a guy that can learn how to handle girls, can do it in any country. Just face it, wherever you go, girls are the same. So live with it, and quit going after hookers.

Just My 2 Cents says:

Ive lived in Thailand on and off for 4 years. To say there are not very attractive farang women is crazy. You only have to goto the full moon parties on Koh Phan to see hundreds of lovely swedish, french and israeli ladies running around with big grins on their faces! (I do have to say there are a few too many overhanging belllies on Koh San road though!)

Thai women are unique in Asia. Ive spent time in mainland China and Malaysia and I found the locals their very grim. Certainly I'd prefer a girl back home to any of these offerings.

I am fortunate to have a Thai girlfriend who Ive been seeing for a while. Shes very easy gonig like most Thai women and I love it. Shes generally happy doesn't need require 24/7 attention or use mind games to get her ways. I work long hours and I now dont think I have the energy to deal with white womens agendas!

Anyway the world is a great big place. What ever grabs your fancy grab it and enjoy it!

Peace.....

xgirlx says:

haha... what a bunch of stereotypical crap. i guarantee you that with all of the hot scandinavian, australian, and not to mention sexy thai guys in thailand who are not slurping up the fake flattering drivel from their purchased girls (intended of course to keep the cash flowing), that farang girls have no problem getting laid either on a short term or long term basis. but sexpats can keep telling themselves that to make themselves feel better for having to pay if they want to. :) we will continue to laugh at them behind their back just like their thai girls do....

sniffer says:

Agree with you re. farang men who don't see the ulterior motives of lots of Thai girls. Having said that, a lot of us are much more sussed than you give us credit for and enjoy the relationships while they last But, but, but...what a load of self-deluding drivel the rest is. What single farang woman in their right mind would choose to live in Thailand? They just can't compete with the (real) beauty and sexiness of the local women, their (real) sense of fun and the (beautifully acted) way they make their man or men feel loved and validated.
perhaps it's a shame that farang women seem lumpy, shrewish and generally a much inferior option by comarison but that's just the way it is...

Jeff Harding says:

Ultimately, these arguments are incredibly fucking sad.

sniffer says:

how so?

YouKnowWho says:

The Difference between American Men and Women:

Women want their men to be more like women...

Men do not, however, want their women to be more like men.

The Similarity between American Men and Women:

Women want their men to be more like women...

Men want their women to be more like women.

White women is the first step towards homosexuality!

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Get a life says:

If you've seen an obese retarded man in rural Scandinavia with his tiny thai wife you would see Thai-European marriages the way most Scandinavian do -- as a kind of prostitution.
A lot of people, women and men alike in Norway wants to outlaw mail-order marriage, and I, as a man agree on this.

Dave says:

well, with a post as racist and prejudiced as that, i think you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. and you do indeed need to 'get a life'.

GET A LIFE says:

Belive me, I prefer being alone and never having kids, etc., because I've had so much problems in my life.
There are rarely any "normal" men here in rural Norway who can't get a Norwegian girlfriend or wife. It's only the sem-retarded who have to buy their wives. I've seen wedding photos of Thai women with their 150-kilo bridegoom who are desperately trying to smile on their wedding photos. Yeah, that's real love!

Funny fact: "Farang" means food poisoning in central Norwegian dialect!

Anonymous says:

you just re-enforce what i just said. i bet you've never been out of Oslo have you.

GET A LIFE says:

I've never lived in Oslo.
My opinion is that if you can't get a Norwegian woman or don't want one, you can't take the easy way out and buy yourself a submissive slave from another culture.

mr peter says:

Dear GAL I am semi retarded and want to buy a submissive slave from another culture, where do I get one from though? I have never met a thai I could call submissive have you? so perhaps you refer to some other culture, ekimos maybe or whatever it is we are meant to call them these days or perhaps one of those juingle pygmies, they would be handy for shooting next doors cat with a blowpipe or skinning rabbits. I rather fancy Danish girls, can I buy one of them, after all most women have their price-peter

GET A LIFE says:

Then how come there are only obese men with a 1988-era James Hetfield look who parade around with their Thai brides?
These men are not what any women, Thai or not would choose voluntarily.

de says:

did someone force them do it?

GET A LIFE says:

Yes, the greed for village moron cash forced them to it.

John U says:

James Hetfield?

Andre says:

Had to laugh at YABS, nice work.
I'm 21, I fucked a white chick in Thailand.

But it's true.

Thai girls oooooze feminity. Even the lady-boys (which I'm not a fan of) act like women, and subconcioncous they know where they came from, adams hip! if you know what i mean

If you do your research (or just watch alot of TV) you'd know that humans are attracted to different traits in the opposite sex.

Dont quote me if I'm wrong but girls look for someone who is capable of protecting them (and their offspring, more importantly). There is a whole list of other things. Men like something, I cant remember because it wasn't important to me. And also, the reason we think someone is beautiful or not is to do with symetry, symetry of the face and body.

So what are you all arguing about? Things are they way they are. White chicks are fat and rude, Thai chick are money hungry and stupid(according to the majority of expats in Thaliand) so they both have their negatives as with everything.
But they both have absolutely amazing positives and if you can't say this about a western chick then it's because you haven't taken the time to listen to what she is feeling (not what she is saying in defence). It's quite typical for children and women to go on the offensive when threatened. Cue the SNAG attacks

So in conclusion, everyone deserves sex, you should give it to them! Now go forth and 'sex me daring' (for those with non-working thai girlfriends ;))
hahahahahahaha

GET A LIFE says:

James Hetfield is the singer and guitarist of Metallica. He used to have a Lemmy-inspired mustache and sideburns. I've seen to many 25-year olds with this in rural Norway...
Andre, you're right about the protection thing! This is exactly why European women don't want the weirdos who want a Thai wife -- they see a man that's not an Alpha male, a strong leader.
Some of these European men could get an European girlfriend if they got an education, cut of their ponytail, shaved of their mustaches and lost weight! I can't get a norwegian girlfriend, but I don't want one either, neither a Thai wife.

Thai Girl Who Speaks English says:

well,I didn't really read all those comments posted here. But thanks for hilarious article. Hmm.. and..better not to take it too serious :-) *smile*

Linda says:

As a Thai/Chinese woman who was raised in the States but lived in LOS for 9 years, I've seen both sides of the coin, and I do agree that many and I mean many farang woman have major issues. They just seem to be very selfish. Thai women are raised a little different, we were taught to revere our fathers and older brothers, husbands and men were taught to take care of woman, it's still very old-fashioned. It's not that we are subservient at all, it's totally the opposite, it's just that it makes a happy life if you have consideration for your partner. I see it as men have a role and woman have a role. In a relationship, white women tend to demand and expect what they think is rightly theirs but Thai woman want to try to please their man to get what they want, make them happy and we usually get it with a smile, it's just the way we were raised. It's looked down upon by friends and family if we can't take care of our respective wives or husbands.

Don't get me wrong, I like the farang woman way too, they are strong confident and agressive but I do believe that it shouldn't be used in a loving relationship, it should be used at the office.

I believe that both Asian and Farang woman have their pros and cons, it just depends on your personal preference. But it is true that white woman have trouble finding mates in LOS, too much competition but they do find one if you can believe it. I worked at an international firm with alot of expats and had couple of farang woman friends and they used to complain about the lack of mates but one did find a mate in HK and got married but she opted to move back to London, too much eye candy.

I live in the States now and I have noticed a shift in white men, some of them are marrying other ethnic groups, ie mexican instead of a white woman, they have said that ethnic woman have more family values, make better mothers or something like that but hey what do i know, it's just what I hear from friends.

Note: This is just my experience and my two cents.

DICK HEADLEY says:

What a great post Linda. Your first paragraph explains things very well.

With many (not all) farang relationships there seems to be some kind of endless competition going on. Farang guy asks farang girlfriend to do something and he's being exploitative. Farang girl asks boyfriend to do something and she's being manipulative. I have no idea how things got that way but it sure is stressful and a waste of energy.

Mind you I'm not sure marrying women from other ethnic groups solves the problem either.

JR says:

wow , so many comments.... so i'll just add a quick whippet

1 one example of a thai guy does not make for a full image.

2 farang women always touted that you want a sensitive man but once you encounter one you run?

3 most thai guys are not ,especially a waiter, prostitutes for farang women. Some fancy themselves players, some are still very inexperienced just like any human being.

4 if you want some Thai guy soz you need to be more like thai women... although the lesser ability for that kinda brought the farang counterparts here in the first place.

5 Thai guys want respectable women in their relationships. not one who grabs any man they see. It might puzzle farang women why some choose not to jump their bones at any given opportunity. Unlike like say a farang man?

6 Me, my brother and brother inlaw have "farang" wives. So this magnifies that something was wrong in the approach.

palimpsest says:

"White chicks are fat and rude, Thai chick are money hungry and stupid".

Well Andre, I think you've supplied the best stereotypes of the lot but really everyone here says:

If you do this, they will do that, If you say this they will say that. Really? In mass?

Now you can generalise about farang girls and Thai girls, but not in excess of what is really required and I think Andre has touched it somehow.

White boys:
All you whlte boys who've got your brains tucked in your bollocks all I say is that just because you have money, or you speak Thai or you've been in Thailand for a long time Thai people dont give a shit about you. You have no status, nor class here, just because you are foreign. If you cant get that in your head well continue to live your deluded lives.

Thai woman:
It is very rare for a Thai woman from a well to do family to end up with a white boy, can happen but quite rare.... Relationships in this country are not predicated on the individual but on the family, on status, on the role you play and how much you can pay. And your esarn girls? well bless them, but they're only trying to make ends meet anyway....they're downtrodden as it is.... As for the femininity of Thai woman, yeah they are cute and feminine and sexually anxious, all good ingridients as far as a man is concerned, but I wouldn't live with one! I know that much.

White birds.
Fuck man, who wants to touch them! I really cant see what is good about some lippy fat bleached bitch who will not shut up for a second and who is a lously fuck..... where is the comparison in the first place?

So what then:

Well screw your Thai bint, and dont get to hang up because for the first 30 years of your life you had no brains to get laid in your own country.....thats no reason to foam in the mouth for. If you had two braincells, you could lay any woman you wanted. Surpirse surprise, even you can do that in Thailand... and Vietnam and Japan and so many other places.

As the saying goes, God gave a man a dick and a brain but not enough blood to run the two together.

YouKnowWho says:

I think Linda's comments about Thai women and Thai relationships are right on.

Anyone who thinks Thai women are subservient have probably not spent much time with a Thai woman. They are amongst the most self confident and self reliant women in the world.

The reality is that Thai culture does not really accept directness or confrontation as a means of getting what you want. Silence or a smile, while mistakenly viewed as subservience in the West, are often the most effective means of communicating to a partner your feelings (there are a thousand different types of smiles here) while preserving harmony and avoid unnecessary confrontation.

TJ says:

well said Linda, and Youknowwho to mention but a few. why do farang fat slappers seem to have the perception that all Thai women are prostitutes, and farang men only come here and pay for it.

I for one am married to a fantastic Thai girl who I met in blighty, shes not subservient by any means, we are like a normal couple you meet anywhere. furthermore before I was married Ive had many Thai girlfriends whom I didnt pay for,
contrary to popular misconceptons Thai Girls are human beings as well which means they dont just fuck white men for money.

It occurs to me that white women are very bitter and twisted about Asian girls, you know how bitchy and jealous women can be when they dont fit in or their affection is spurned.

Errant says:

The force of nature named Palimpsest writes:

'All you whlte boys who've got your brains tucked in your bollocks all I say is that just because you have money, or you speak Thai or you've been in Thailand for a long time Thai people dont give a shit about you. You have no status, nor class here, just because you are foreign. If you cant get that in your head well continue to live your deluded lives.'

Your thoughts strike with the power of a dark revelation. You inform the reader that there prevail people in this country who don't much care for the outlander, people who consider the outlander not merely a nuisance but in fact an inferior. And who are these people who would keep the outlanders afield? The shallow, money-mad nitwits. The smart set who are anything but. The ones who think themselves urbane but yet whose minds are a howling wilderness.

They don't want us, then? Devastating. How to go on living?

Good thing their daughters are cute, the ones not poisoned by their parents anyway.

metronil says:

Paul is a farang...no doubt about it...Big fat flabby ass, warts and all.

moss man says:

Too many choices...

Lindas comments ring oddly true, and balanced. I have traveled to LOS since 1988, and I love women of all stripes and colors. My passion for Thai women and Asian women in particular has less to do with the white, femi-nazi agenda that can be found almost anywhere backhome in my country, or the socio-political gender battle evident in just about every other modern medium(magazines, movies, sit-coms, commercials-you name it) than the plain and simple fact that they(asian women)seem much, much more feminine. Physically, it's no contest. I'm not sorry about that either.
Why are western women unhappy? Reading all these posts seems to confirm that answer, if the context is in Thailand. The shoe is on the other foot here. Thank god for this!

When you consider a modern western marriage contract and
come to the line, "'till death do we part," it's seems like a victorian concept cooked up to prevent women of that era
from being exploited." You know, dying giving birth to their seventh or eighth child, the kind of draconian lifestyle wives were expected to embrace, and not complain about. But nobody complained because they were all in it together.
The family was the survival unit. There were fewer choices for both husbands and wives because there was alot less financial wealth all around, and fewer choices. People stayed together because they HAD to. To leave the family was like inviting ruin upon your self, and to disgrace all involved. The "individual" was only a concept, not a practice, and by todays standards rare.
The irony today is that marriage exploits men, punishes us harshly for any misdeeds outside of the family structure. Marriage is a woman's best investment for her time and efforts, rewarding certainly if she plays her cards right. Wish I could do that!
So you pay/you play; make the time commitment of your choice.
I have a western aquaintance who visited me in Bkk, and she once said to me, "if I was a guy..."(you know the rest) I appreciated that. She wasn't threatened. There are some happy, well adjusted, balanced western women still out there, but unfortunately(for all) so few. Maybe it is fortunate!

TANAI KWAI says:

"When you consider a modern western marriage contract and come to the line, "'till death do we part..."

I know a couple whose vows ended with "as long as we both shall love."

Must have stopped doing so since they are now divorced.

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TANAI KWAI says:

By the way, for those of you who share an attraction for slender and feminine Thai women, and are also interested in fathering children...

How do you feel about your son turning out to be more of a gracile, small-framed Thai boy well-suited for the cast of Simon Cabaret as opposed to a burly sort of Luk Kreung born to play rugby or linebacker for the Pittsburgh Steelers? Or what if your daughter turns out to be the spitting image of your fat aunt Judith from Sacramento -- rather than favoring the generations of stunners who gave rise to the nubile Noi you hold in your arms today?

This could obviously happen in any coupling, Thai-farang or otherwise, but just curious.

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Aren't we missing something here? says:

Isn't a large part of the attraction of thai women to the men who come here the fact that 95% of the men who come here could not attract a sexual partner as good looking as they can over here.

It's not a given but when Farang women accuse the men who come to Thailand looking for love and/or sex, of being rejects, there is some truth to it?

Not necessarily says:

Why do you want to think that? 95%? Are you jealous or something?

Aren't we missing something here? says:

Yes that's it.

mr peter says:

I don't know about missing something, isn't this more like stating the bleeding obvious, so what is it's even 100%? Certainly applies to me, I woudn't take a falang bitch out back home if they paid me, the very thought makes me feel sick. The idea of attracting a falang woman as good looking as a thai would not be possible anyway-they don't exist!-peter

'95% of the men who come here could not attract a sexual partner as good looking as they can over here'

Dana says:

Is it 95% or 96% or 100%? This is the part of these chat sites and all other Thai themed farang focused web sites and threads that I just don't understand. What makes anyone think it matters? Why all the name calling about men who come to Thailand? What difference does it make why they have to come or why they choose to come? We are all insignificant carbon based life forms on an insignificant rock hurtling through an indifferent space towards an unrecorded future. There is no god and nothing matters and no one is keeping score. The idea that men are keeping score of other mens motivations or activities or failings is just too stupid. Pathetic. Get over it. It's called being an adult. Look at the cards you are holding, bro. Do you see a 'guaranteed future' card, or a 'love will be yours for eternity' card or a 'going to get out of this life alive' card? No you don't. Because those cards don't exist. In fact, if you look closely you will be surprised to see that you are not holding any cards. The fact that you are alive is a giant improbability that you can not take any credit for. Your job is to chill out, stop judging others, and have fun. And for god's sake stop complaining. Shut-ins would kill to be able to go out and walk in the rain. You don't deserve anything you have. So just try to be nice and have fun. In my case, I know exactly why I choose or why I have to go to Thailand. So I know exactly why I am doing what I am doing. This does not diminish my value as a man or as a human being. It is also not something I have to explain or defend to others. The fact that other men would take an interest in my life and be doing scorekeeping and judging is a comment on them, it is not relevant to me. Some day women will rule the earth from sunup to sunset because men could not stop the juvenile jockeying for power and band together. Men will get what they deserve. Nothing.

Scorekeep says:

Bonus points for that post, Dana.

Greg says:

Most of the expats I've met are handsome and a fair catch. I knew one guy who was physically and emotionally unattractive, and in the sexpat areas there must be tons. But most of the expats I've met seem decent enough. But I suspect that people who look down on the guys who have it easy with girls here have some emotional need to do so, so rational arguments really have nothing to do with anything.

TANAI KWAI says:

Dana puts it well.

On the other hand, it is beyond rebuke that there are some ugly motherfuckers who land (pay for) hot Thai girls they would not otherwise be able to afford back home.

But even if with respect to those who are not physically hideous sex tourists, many Western women seem to begrudge the fun had by middle-class guys having the rock star experience in Thailand.

As for attractive men of means who could have their pick back home but opt for a Thai woman (who may or may not even, for example, have a decent education or speak proper English), well, this scenario is truly befuddling to our Western sistern.*

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*As is the fact that one's ass will expand regardless of how many "fat-free" cookies are ingested.

moss man says:

"must have stopped doing so, because they are now divorced."

Of course they are divorced, who wouldn't be? Look at all his options out there; look at her potential financial windfall. Maybe she can afford to get divorced(maybe he can't)but the situation is such a standoff for 75% of the folks I know who are committed, and are staying married, it's difficult to walk away from it all.
And carefull about your fantasies too; when most women hear that clock ticking, the best way to ignore it is to look elsewhere for chinks in your "armor." She'll recognize the look on your face as easily as you read Calvin&hobbes.
Marriage is such an outdated concept in so many forms. I
don't mean the comittment aspect of it; I'm for that. What I'm against is controlling another person, male or female,
just because you are married. To me, it's enough just to
WANT to marry someone, but that doesn't mean you have to cut off your 'nads and pass them to her in a playmate- cooler. Obviously a good portion of guys get married because they want to, or they're socially conditioned they want to, the social tradition, and the willingness to give up life on the prowl. We'll always look at "the menu," but order from it only in our dreams, if we don't want to rock the boat.
The problem for me, and some of my friends who are married, is the time commitment thing; whether for "life" or as long as "we shall love." That's ridiculous!
I love my mom, but if I had to spend just a week with her
we'd be at each other's throats. My best friends ARE my best friends simply because we know WHEN to leave...I wouldn't HAVE any best friends if they had to put up with me every day. You can keep spinning this thread until you arrive at the strangely rigid structure(to my mind)of a marriage contract.
Only strange to me perhaps, but definitely not strange in societies when/where people have fewer choices, like here 100 years ago.
And mutant babies, yes I've seen a few. I know a guy who is 6'-8" and his father is only 5'-9" and they come from the same "tribe." I wonder who's uncle that one was? I've also seen some of the most fantabulous looking women created from a union of different ethnic backgrounds, especially western and Thai.
Relax and enjoy the ride...wheeeee!

Tara says:

Wow! What a conversation!!

Having lived in Asia for 10 yrs (including several in Thailand), so much of the above rings true, and so much doesnt. Im a white female. I have had a few Asian boyfriends, some who Always pay, others who Never. One thing they have in common though, is as soon as you hold their hand, your married. Thanks but no thanks.

Generally, why Western Girls (in my humble experiences) dont go for Asian boys is becaue they cant be faithful. I am still waiting for the day I find the one who can. But.... now living in China with new man (Chinese)... seems like he can keep his dick in his pants.. or mine... ill keep you posted.

NB. Also been out with Western guys in Asia and met somee of my best friends there (who are white western males living in Asia). Guess we (West Girls) arent all that fat and boistrous.

Thai girls are after money theory: Many of my friends have gorgeous, sweet and honest Asian wives. Very stable and very normal relationships. However, hanging in BKK, I also see the other Sexpats. Scenerio: movie theatre, tiny Thai girl. Big fat and very repulsive Western man. He "Ah, the movie doesnt start for another half an hour. What would you like to do?". She "Buy bathers" He "Buy bathers? But wwe jusst bought shoes and trousers and two shorts and a belt". She "I want bathers". He "Ok darling".

Sceneerio 2. Living in laos, go out with some Western male frinds for nigght on the piss. Get drunk, talk till dawn, no sex. One White male married to Laos girl, "Oh God, I had forgotten how good it feels just to be able to talk to a girl. You know, really talk".

Not everything is about sex, and yr kidding yrslf if you think it is. Also, not everything is black and white. far too many generalisations running around this website.

However, take ze call aout Western girls not being femine enuf. Perhaps a sign of the timees? Dont blame her too much, she's just toughenedd to deal with the competitive society she was born into- she knows she has to stand on her own two feet to survive. Asian girrls are a little different. Family support is usually always there.

kevin, you need to chill out man, and stop naame dropping. Perhaps the Thai's think your cool, but 20 bucks says I bet you think your cooler.

Anyway, Im off to buy a skirt.

TANAI KWAI says:

Tara, in my opinion this is the most interesting snippet of your post:

"'Oh God, I had forgotten how good it feels just to be able to talk to a girl. You know, really talk....
Not everything is about sex, and yr kidding yrslf if you think it is."

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tonychang says:

My Thai girlfriend left me because she kept seeing me out drinking with white girls.

The Shadow says:

Same story here - my Thai girl doesnt like me talking to white girls. She thinks i fancy them.

There are few folk more jealous than an asian woman. Demure & submissive my ass.

Greg says:

Agreed - Thai women are sometimes insanely jealous. But surprisingly many will not leave you if you see other girls and stand your ground. At least for a while. If you are serious about the girl, then of course that is not a good strategy, but if you just messin around for fun, that option is there.

Insight says:

The last night on my last trip to England I was on in a popular nightclub. Some fat slapper edged up to me and then