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October 14 2003

Would your Thai wife murder you for cash?

Would your Thai wife murder you for cash?

Another hapless farang murdered by Thai wife

Have you noticed how many western men living in Thailand seem to suffer violent deaths? Fatal road accidents, burglaries gone wrong and balcony death plunges occur almost daily. Usually they warrant only a couple of lines in the newspaper. Recently, however, I learned about one of these cases in more detail.

Earlier this year my Thai girlfriend went back to Buriram to renew her ID card. Ahead of her in the queue was the widow of a recently deceased westerner who was weeping and being comforted by her brother. She was seeking the authority to claim her dead husband's estate.

When asked for the death certificate, she tearfully explained that her husband had died only the previous day and the hospital had not issued it yet. The desk officer said that he could not process her claim without it.

Suddenly, her tears dried. Over several hours, she argued with officials in a voice loud enough for the growing crowd to hear. It turned out that she had been married for just six months to her farang husband. He had finished building their house only two days previously. On the day of his death, they were celebrating its completion with a small party.

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She explained that as they were returning home by motorbike, they were hit by a pick-up truck. Her husband was killed instantly. Sadly, such accidents are not rare in rural Thailand. On the face of it, this was just tragic bad luck but as the discussion continued some facts emerged that cast doubt on this version of events.

After the accident, the driver of the pick-up ferried her husband's body to the hospital morgue. Drivers typically flee the scene of an accident in Thailand because they have nothing to gain from hanging around. Perhaps he was just trying to do the right thing. Perhaps he did not consider that his actions would deny police the opportunity to examine the crash scene. The wife was lucky. She was the pillion passenger but survived the fatal accident with no visible injury.

As time wore on and patience wore thin, her "brother" pitched in. Dressed in army fatigues, he looked like a tough guy. The couple's body language began to give onlookers the impression that they enjoyed a rather more intimate relationship. He was pestering her about how much money he would get.

Leaving this story aside for a moment, let's consider a hypothetical situation. If you were an aging bar girl with a Thai boyfriend and were tired of selling your body, you might be tempted to marry a rich farang. He could build you a house and support your dependents. Obviously your boyfriend and family would be in on it from the start.

Six months down the line, the farang has finished his spending spree and just wants a quiet life. The house may be in your name, but the remaining cash is still his. If you threw him out now, you would be back to square one. Your boyfriend has been swallowing his pride for six months. He may not be squeamish about doing the necessary. It could be made to look like an accident.

Coming back to the real-life story, the onlookers amused themselves by indulging in whispered speculation. Even if there was no foul play involved, you have to feel distaste at the family's haste to cash in. The police did launch an investigation but I don't know the outcome. Maybe a reader can shed some light on it.

Relationship breakdown is always costly but some hapless western men may end up paying the ultimate price.

[Posted to Farang Life by David]

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Readers' comments

John Little says:

One only has to peruse The Pattaya Mail to see how often this can happen.....viz. the middle-aged Fa-lang corpse among the wilting purple orchids among the bus fumes under the balcony. "When will they ever learn...dum de dum...when will the EVER learn ???

TANAI KWAI says:

One breathtaking shark I had come to know over several months eventually confided to me she was married to an older farang. Soon thereafter she suggested having him killed and sharing his fortune. I blanched (not easy for me to do as it was summertime and I was as dark as an Issan farm girl) and we laughed it off when she read my reaction. Fortunately for all involved, she accepted my counsel and obtained a more conventional divorce and settlement.

En garde, mes frËres.

(if they're willing to do it to someone else they'll be willing to do it to you)

jdman says:

Wow TK,

Scary post. Can Thai bodyguards be trusted? If I had a driver that was packing, would the boyfriend look for softer targets? I know the likely answer...the bodyguard would do the hit for them.

s- says:

kinda freaky tho TK ... i can imagine the 'freakyness' shagging this "deadly girl" :p

Cum Stain says:

Maybe Paul Johnson's wife.....

peter gard says:

this happens constantly...im married to a tha national...i also know that if i retired to the land of smiles they would ultimetly murder me!...my embassy would show no intrest whatsoever despite me paying £10,000 a year income tax to the u.k.some how i deserved it!...amazing thailand...p.s...we have a wonderfull child...together she is 6 months old but im alas se sip bat 48 so i can be poisened, shot or dismembered!!!!where can i re locate ..udon ,khon khen korat etc...i dont think so.

Frank G Anderson Korat says:

22 May 2006
My Thai wife has thought about killing me many times. Usually after I 'forget' to help wash dishes.
Married 37 years, our first and only marriage each, we have found that there are a lot of potholes and many of them are created by the people who complain.

JJ says:

I'm a Thai woman who has been in relationship with an Australian partner for almost 4 years in Thailand. Now we live in Australia we just moved here five months ago. I have never thought about killing my partner. I recon he is the luckiest farang. He is a musicain and I don't think he has enough money for me to kill him. He loves me and I love him and all my friends love him. My parents have never tought me to rely on husband.

Blue says:

what a pathetic farangs! don't look for Thai wife in bars ! otherwise you will get kill.Before you'll get kill they will rip you off first.

Bob says:

Every chance they get.
From all the convernsations I had with thai women, it has been nothing else but money.

larry says:

In a New York minute if they knew they were going to get some cash........

Andy says:

Sage advice from Khun Blue ^^ up there. Stereotypes are pretty rigid here. I mean, Q; Whats the difference between a local and a supermarket trolley?

A: The trolley has a mind of its own.

Khun Bopalo says:

A very interesting thread - I wonder how many of the farang husbands would marry a girl from the redlight districts in their home countries and expect them to be good wives...

sam vana says:

Any women in the world could do the same. Not only Thai women can do that! There are good and bad people everywhere!

Bird says:

My name is Bird and I am a Thai woman. I have husband 3 years and I happy. Before husband I had husband 1 year. He very bad. He see many other woman. I lucky he died in accident. Sometime accident better than divorce. Now I have good husband.

Jack says:

Well, not every Thai girls will do this to her life partner; not all farang in Thailand are rich either.
I believe this incident is only a small portion as I withness a lot of merry couples and till day, these farang are alive.:)

James says:

I am married to a Thai woman and after 3 months, she and her brother tried to to orchestrate my demise. After several weeks of lingering sickness, I became seriously ill and was in the hospital for almost 2 months after the attempted poisoning.

Alas, I love her and I don't want her to go to jail for a stupid mistake. We have been able to work through this difficulty. She has promised not to try to kill me again and we have resumed our happy life.

bangkokram says:

Bye James, good to have known you.

Would you like Flowers or a charitable donation at your funeral.

philH says:

James, I don't like to piss on your chips but for fucks sake wake up.

Are you sure it is her brother?

If I was you I'd learn to sleep with one eye open, prepare your own food and drink, check the car brakes daily and take to wearing kevlar jackets.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong and wish you all the best - you'll need it.

Or, are you taking the piss?

James says:

She says she won't try it again. I think she sincerely regrets poisoning me and I believe her.

What can I say? I've been struck by cupid's arrow.

Andy says:

James is either having a larf, or the dangerously high Mercury levels still in his bloodstream prevent him from coherent thought.
Please tell us you're joking?

James says:

I posted a picture of us on imageshack. This was us 3 months ago about 6 weeks after I got out of the hospital. http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/922/
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James says:

Here is another photo of us about two weeks after we were married: http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9472/
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Eniac says:

You are full of shit, James.

Those photographs were lifted from the 'Success Stories' page of SweetSingles.com.

Andy says:

She looks really nice for a poisoner! Mind you, thats what they said about Crippen.

James says:

Way to go Eniac - That's a perfect way to ruin a good practical joke.

You got to admit that the guy does look like he has been poisoned in the first picture.

Lenora Babbitt says:

An american woman would never do anything to hurt her husband!!!

Dick Renegade says:

Don't fool yourselves into to thinking America women don't do this. It is extremely common.

American women haved proved time and time again that there are legal ways to kill your husband. American women are smarter and more patient about it than the Thais. American women tend to kill their husbands slowly over time by feeding them a fatty diet, which ultimately ends with them having an untimely heart attack.

The payoff is usually bigger too because American women commonly carry life insurance on their husbands. A lot of times this is easily obtained through the husband's workplace.

geaw UK says:

I have been married to my husband for nearly two year now but we together before for 3 years before married, and I love my husband lots I never asked him for any sid sod for married because my husband have no money at all when we first met or even we together , we help each other lot when i in Thailand I work for my self and pay for rent for both of us because he didn't work, my job is goodpay anyway ( work for japanese company),and I love him what he is he never buy me any present as boyfriend should do,I help make his life better then he should be now because of love we have for each other, I read lots of news, thai wife ( bar girls) just using farang for money is make me sick and hate what they did.and my husband didn't like bargirls he neverbeen anywhere near them when he in Thailand,but I think not all of them bad ( don't know just think),but anyway we have two kids now 20 month old son and I will give birth on 26 of Jan 2007 the second one , when I think my life with out my husband is my eyes fill with tear and my heart is breaking.

John says:

Why ask? There is nothing that a Thai woman won't do for cash.

mike davis says:

they have the gaul to have you pay a dowry here, tis to laugh..

forget it, this place is for suckers...you're already lost...and the biggest reason is getting the bar girl girlfriend... its almost guaranteed to end up bad...why bother

find a nice asian girl from cambodia or indonesia. dont believe me?...i can read the pattaya papers, can you? re: sudden deaths of middle-aged farangs.

if you come here to have fun, youll do ok but theres better fun elsewhere...romance...ludicrious

the night ranger says:

this all gets back to what kind of person you choose for a longterm relationship. Obviously, bar girls are not a good choice. Fine a GTG and you won't have to watch your back.

paulie says:

I have recently returned from thailand (chiang mai) and I#m in love with all aspects of that part of thailand. I do want a Thai wife (they are, in my opinion, the most beautiful of oriental's) but this web forum has terrified the shit out of me. Thank you to all that have posted here, it has really opened my eyes to a darker side of skin-deep beauty. I will have a Thai wife one day though. Cheers for your education.

Rory says:

I married a Thai woman one year ago and it has been great. We reside in the US now and she has taken to it like a fish to water. She was a university student not a bar girl so her education and natural interest in learning have helped. I don't know where we'll be in 20 years but at the moment all is well. Interestingly, we have watched Court TV together a number of times and often it is a case study about some American woman killing her husband for money. I've joked with her that she can't do that to me because she'll get caught - and besides, there are plenty of American women killing their husbands every day. If you are worried about your Thai wife doing it, then don't marry her. If you do, don't live year-round in Thailand unless you have no other option, because that is basically an open invitation for her extended family to move in and start conspiring against you. Build a sturdy relationship with her removed from those influences and you have a better chance of not having an "accident".

WaitAMinute says:

Wow, I beleive that this stuff happens, I live in Bangkok and I have been with a Thai woman for a year now. I know she doesn't mess with anyone because we are always together and our age difference is very little. Unlike the old farts who like the young girls, I don't blame them, but I hate seeing it. I guess if I needed money and a better life, I might be inclined to do the same.

Prufrock says:

WaitAMinute: How wonderful it must be to be you. Must have been a great year.

But anyone who's contacted a BG for "all nite" only to have her lay awake waiting for that "sixter need key" phone call, knows the racals could out-wait a shithouse rat if there's a farang visa in the hopper ;-)
Either you're shacked with a 23 year old "student" or a 23 year old bar girl. Or both and you don't even know it. Yet.
She doesn't know you don't have any money or any prospects because to her you look like Oak Sinawatra, what wit' dat fetching' facial hair experiment (Ibid.ms) and that fantastic English teacher's gig at ECC.
Or do I have this all wrong and you're like a backpacking world traveler of independent means?
Please share with us old farts, the sight of whom you hate so much.
We could be your Dad. Maybe we are ;-)

Pants Elk says:

A propos the "old fart" trope, Graham Greene said "the age card is as good as the youth card in the game of sex", and you know what? He was as right in this as he was in most things.
(For younger visitors, Graham Greene was a writer of novels. Novels are like blogs, only longer, and are printed on paper, so you don't have to share an internet café with a bunch of Americans on dating sites to read them.)

John Kelly says:

The sad thing is, you people who think bad about Thai women in general are really talking about Thai prostitutes.
You can't expect to find a good wife from the red light districts.
Would you go looking for a wife in a strip joint?

A good Thai women don't take interest in you just because you are a westerner. In other words, you need to work on it. Not by showering with gifts and cash. You know you are in trouble when the only thing you can think of to get the attention of the girl is by using cash.

I have a Thai wife and I'm loving every minute of it. She used to be my secretary. I have since worked for another company. I'm not rich, I earn slightly more than her. We both work to make a living. We have a daughter that's absolutely adorable. (of course any dad would say that, but trust me on this)

The point I'm trying to make is, Thai women are no different from any other women. The ones that you all are bitching about are Thai prostitutes. Not your normal everyday average Thai women.

Make sure you know the difference. If not, then, it's your funeral.

ian says:

i am planning to go backpacking to thailand alone this winter , will i get , like targeted by thai prostitutes wanting to kill me for my bankcard ? im not kidding this post is freaking me out. im not going there to screw whores im just going to live in a little beach house for a few months. am i in danger ???? please reply !

Mac says:

Ian-
Be afraid. Be very afraid. Yes, you will be, like, targeted. It doesn't matter that you are not coming "to screw whores," as the sex for them is just the means to an end. In fact, they would prefer to kill you for your bankcard without the messy preliminary of having sex. Carrying a large amount of cash rather than a bankcard may help, but it's still no guarantee that they won't go after you. The beaches are notorious for roving gangs of murderous prostitutes looking for lone backpackers, and they are as likely to strike during the daylight hours as after dark. The police are largely powerless to stop them, and in fact sometimes work in concert with them for a share of the spoils.
All in all, Rio might be a safer bet. Enjoy your holiday.

Wombat says:

Mac

Of course you will be targeted. Best leave the bankcard at home. Take lots of cash & immediately change it into baht. That way you can run down the beach throwing it in the air behind you. This will save you & the Thai prostitutes a great deal of angst. Murder is apparently a messy business & may distract the local constabulary from their day to day activities. Enjoy your holiday.

seals says:

Does this sound real or all in my head.
I was in Bangkok other week and ended up at Star Dust Bar, where I picked up a girl. When I got her back to the hotel she goes “toot toot driver said your after a wife” I just laughed and thought nothing of it being a bit drunk.
Next day she has taken me back to her house we smoked heaps of ice and she cut my finger nails and toe nails then gave me a massage, later that afternoon went to a temple and she told me to pray to budda what I want in life.
We went out that night had a good time then next morning back at her place smoked some more ice and took ecstasy, people started rocking up for a party.
This is where things started to get weird and not sure if I was just off my head on the drugs or it was real. It seemed to me that the people where there for a wedding not a party but just how they where acting and what I thought I heard them saying. I asked but was going on and about what the toot toot driver said and I was not looking to get married then people started leaving, someone put a tablet in my mouth saying it was another ecstasy but I knew it wasn’t coz sore the shape of it and bag it came out of. Then it seemed they where sitting around watching me to either die or pass out from the poison.
Does this stuff happen or you think it was all in my head.

Prufrock says:

It's all in y9ur head. All the whores know that "ice" and "ya E" are contra-indicated and they'd never risk getting de-listed from the annals of the profession administering them after a toot-toot ride (also a Thai would never say toot toot. That terminal dental plosive just doesn't happen here.
You should come and try this place out instead of imagining that you have ;-)

divad says:

toot-toot is smack back in broak-ass. yaa-maa.

seals says:

i'm not 100% sure if she said toot toot couldn't understand what she was saying. took me 2 days to work out when she said "my room" what it meant i thought she was saying "myloom" thinking it was a suburb she lived in.

the bit about the ice and E was turn, it was just that the party i wasn't sure what was going on. i am guessing it was just the drugs and me not thinking straight. anyway after that day we spent next 5 days together had the best time.
Last night there went on river side bangkok boat cruise that was great. I still email her hopfully go back in july.

seals says:

maybe she was saying chook chook drive i got no idea.

Common Sense says:

Seal,
Its called a fucking Tuk Tuk.

seals says:

Common Sense thank you so much for clearing that up with me.

LittleDevil says:

Well, guys..Could you please tell me the best place for Life&Love in this small world..?
Could you please not to go to Thailand?
Could you please not to go to the bar when you were not with your wife or Girlfriend..?

Are you SMALL at your home, but you think you are BIG here in our country..?uhm..? Then you come here and enjoy your big things..!

Don't you think you hate us and love us on the same time..?

Could you stop yourself not to fall for Thai Girls when you are here..? Ohhh..oh...sorry for your girls as they don't know what you are doing here ha ha...!!

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