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March 29 2004

Thai balcony death-plunge for Suicide Sid?

Thai balcony death-plunge for Suicide Sid?

Every year, hundreds of suicidal farang fellas max out their credit cards and head off to Thailand for a final fling. It's a bit like when kids with leukaemia get sent to Disneyworld - except the rides here aren't suitable for children.

Occasionally, I stop for a drink at a small beer bar off Sukhumvit. One of the regulars there is a quiet English fella called Sid (not his real name) who always sits alone watching the UBC sports channels. For two years we exchanged nothing more than a nod but, one evening, he turned round and said hello.

My surprise soon turned to astonishment. Far from having nothing to say, silent Sid turned out to be very articulate. He was well travelled, knowledgeable and a pleasure to talk to. He seemed a little world-weary but I was still surprised when he calmly said that he planned to kill himself quite soon.

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I didn't want to pry into Sid's personal life but it was obvious that things hadn't gone well for him. He had come to Thailand to claim the consolation prize of a massive shag-fest. With plenty of cash in the bank, he had got jiggy with hundreds of Thai women in many interesting combinations.

Now, though, he couldn't be bothered with sex anymore. To add to his woes, a volatile stock-market had left his savings in a worse state than his libido.

"I live in a tiny room, eat on the street and allow myself six Chang beers a night." He explained. "I come here because the owner lets me have the TV remote."

Living like this, Sid reckoned that he could survive for another three years. Sadly, he meant this quite literally. I couldn't really offer him any advice but, by buying him a beer, I was able to extend his life-expectancy by 45 minutes. To ask how he intended to kill himself would have been crass but I'm sure he would have been happy to tell me.

The balcony death-plunge is always a crowd-pleaser but the practice has become so popular in recent years that only the most bizarre cases make the headlines. Last week, the Bangkok Post reported how one unlucky farang succeeded only in breaking his arm. In hospital, he was carelessly allocated a bed on a high floor. Needless to say, his second jump was more successful.

Suicide Sid differs from most of these guys in that he lives on his own. His death won't feature the usual sideshow of a rough-looking Thai bar girl squeezing out a few crocodile-tears before asking how much she's going to get.

More information

If you are feeling self-destructive, read this first:

http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/

[Posted to Farang Life by David]

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Readers' comments

Prorogue says:

Sid should do us all a favour and top himself today. No point dragging out the drama.

Rover says:

A sad state where we have to ruin other lifes but punishing them with the death of our selves. Why do people do it in full view? Because they want the attention that they never got in life. Sid should be a man and go off by himself some where alone out of the way and finish this not try and make people feel sorry for him...Sad twit..

Stan says:

Sid needs someone to motivate him to look for other options to his woes.Depression does not have to lead to suicide!
It is a shame that people in thw world are so selfcentered and uncaring to actually encourage someone to take their own life!!!!How would that be doing anyone a FAVOR?That type of thinking breeds depression in itself,possibly leading to them doing someone else a ''favor''!
I hope Sid finds some real friends,although I have my doubts that most expats in Thailand would qualify,including yours truly.That is why many are here!

james says:

most of the farrang that commit suicide in thailand do it becuase there is no way out for them,
they have caught HIV.
of course the thai goverment are in no hurry to mention this, dont want to put off the tourists.

Prorogue says:

James. Have you got evidence of this as I can't think of a statistical way of proving this.

If you're going to bullshit, do it convincingly.

cornolio says:

Samaritans Chiang Mai reveals high suicide rate in 2003

248 admitted to hospital, 55 attempts successful

Nopniwat Krailerg

Guide and advise is the way to stop suicide, especially for those who are sad and lonely - the people most at risk, said Assoc. Prof. Dr. Prieb Kuramarohit, assistant director of Samaritans Chiang Mai. The Samaritans Chiang Mai is a counseling service center for people who feel rejected and desperate.

Dr. Prieb also revealed that the suicide rate in Chiang Mai is far too high. In 2003, 248 suicidal patients were admitted to 21 community hospitals, and 55 of them were successful in taking their own life.

Men commit suicide more than women. The age group most at risk is 20-49 years old with most being students or workers who have emotional or life problems. Those who committed suicide included 35 married people, 14 singles and 6 divorcees.

ìFrom research, we have found that suicidal people were disappointed, felt that they were at fault, quarreled with close family or suffered from chronic diseases like AIDS".

shound says:

Take a good walk aroud pattaya
their are hundreds of old geezers having their final fling at life.
I guess they are all trying to Die in the saddle.

Crash999 says:

Perhaps Sid should move to Pattaya. There he can explore innovative ways of topping himself, such as jumping from a balcony with a plastic bag taped over his head and his hands tied behind his back.

Cheers!

Stan says:

Dying in the saddle is not a bad way to go,whether you are a young stud or an old geezer.And should not necessarily lead to depression,Although depression can be a result of the loss in ability to have ''no-direct-pay-for'' relationships.The lack of having people around that genuinely love or care about you,can be enormously depressing!

Anonymous says:

Fucking shame that these people have opted for the final solution, chicken out , no way out, whatever. Life is hard as fuck and some people are not geared up for it. We are all to blame. I am not a hippy by the way.Mental illness is no joke.

JR says:

I myself have traveled the world and quite a bit world weary, I would have wanted to know more about his problems... but suicide like any self abusive act is a final attempt to gain control of a life spiraling out of one's grasp.

Any life shall be missed when they pass , I offer a prayer that he have a better life in his next existence.

tamara says:

Sid's decision isnt sad for sid - only for those who cant respect his choice. People are often detained on Mental Health grounds for contemplating suicide, but surely if you decide that is what you want, when you are calm, and have had time to REALLY think about your decision, who's to say you are wrong or insane. i hope sid enjoys the rest of his life.

No, i am not trolling either. came across this as am suicidal myself right now

tamara

Errant says:

You've come to the right place.

However, if you're suicidal then whether or not you're trolling shouldn't be a concern. Once you've reached the point of suicide then it's anything goes, including you.

Dean says:

This should be my last email for awhile. Like Dana (who is the Godhead, if you didn't already know) I really got to pace myself.

Tamara. I wonder if you are still alive right now? I hope that you are! A psychic once said that while we are alive we are thought beings with a body and that when we die we become thought beings without a body and often, though certainly not always, the cause of suicide was a problem in a person's telepathy. We are telepathic by nature.

Even if the pain is physical, or financial, suicide is recommend against very strongly in all the spiritual books.

Well, the internet has everything. Never had I dreamed that I would be interacting with a group of people who has one interest very similar to mine, and that is to travel to Thailand. I love Thailand.

The internet has something for everybody. I once saw a television special about the internet, and it said, "For instance, there are internet groups for people who are into amputation. For those of you sitting alone in a basement next to a computer, thinking, I am the only one in the world who is into this, and you go on the internet and find that there are thousands like you who understand. Some people do not feel complete until they have amputated some part of themselves. In the old days, they would have suffered in solitary unsympathetic silence. Now, that person can talk to thousands of others who feel the same way, in fact there are websites of people looking to purchase the amputated parts that these amputee wannabees are planning to cut off themselves.

And there is a website called www.suicideforum.com where you can read a chatroom full of suicidal people, like Tamara post their suicidal mores and where incipient advice counsellors are just waiting to jump out of the woodwork to dispense, in this case, totally solicited advice!

In fact, while I am at it, anyone, whether they are suicidal or not, are welcome to email me at my email address.

Dean

nevermind says:

I guess I'm your posterboy for today.

However, I'm not interested in flinging myself off a balcony - too messy. I think pills would do better. Any ideas? What's available here (I live in Bangkok) and in what amounts that won't look suspicious when purchased?

Life here has become too difficult and I can't go home, who would want to? My marriage has become crap. I have no money.

However I am afraid of death, a bit. I mean wouldn't it suck if one went to hell for just taking oneself out of the equation? I often dream about it, hell. Becoming infinitely heavy. A massive whirlpool, like a black hole, of frighteningly dense culpability. An endless suffocation. If that's the case then there isn't a Merciful God.

I think if you die you don't remember your life. Cemetaries are for the living and their fear of death.

Please don't suggest an internet forum. I'd rather post here. I've never done this before. They've described suicide as "too much pain and not enough good feelings at a particular time." Yeah, that's what people who are still alive say. How would they know?

It's a callous old world though, right? We can all agree on that.

mr peter says:

Nevermind, are you serious? it's difficult to tell sometimes. I think you will find it more difficiult than you think to top yourself with pills. A recommended pill route is to take enough to put you well out of it and get a bag secured over the head so that you suffocate. Various gases work a treat but not easy to get hold of them, except for carbon monoxide of course. Hanging seems to be an old favourite. For me I would need a better reason than crap marriage and no money. How about getting smashed and just falling off a boat? Knowing my luck I'd top myself a week before I was going to win the lottery, you never know what might happen tomorrow-peter

james gumb says:

Dear Sid

Never a day goes by without me contemplating suicide. Nothing to do with money or marriage just the meaningless of life. The only reason that has prevented me thus far has been the effect it would have on my parents. Once they are gone I will simply OD on pure brown sugar.Two of my friends opted for this route & if they could speak they would tell you that this is the only way to do it. However, you might want to try it a few times prior to the big S otherwise it will be rather unpleasant as you wil spend the whole time vomiting.

Willem Van Amerongen says:

if you feel suicidal then why don't you do what I have done an d find a rich thai girl that has english lessons at the british counsel ? that way you can be sure that her motives are decent and that she loves you and is not with you for what you represent ( money and a free place to stay) like so many other thai girls...

OXO says:

At last we have found the blindingly simple solution to suicides

ìDo what I have done & find a rich Thai girl that has English lessons at the British counselî

Thank you WILLEM VAN AMERONGENÖÖÖ.. now this afternoon if you could just turn your attention to Cancer & HIV

james gumb says:

Dear Willem

You take the asshole of the day award. Don't you know that within Thai society there is a positive correlation between wealth/education & promiscuity. So your sweetheart has been fucked by all the English teachers at the Brit council & most probably a fair number of the janitorial staff as well.

nevermind says:

hey Everyone, I feel better today (really). perhaps I'm a bit bipolar (Bangkok can do that to you). However, I won't take serontonin up-inhibitors! Really, thanks.

mr peter says:

That's the spirit nevermind, always look on the bright side of life, life's short enough as it is and if you topped yerself you might come back as a soi dog, or someone like NJW, and its friday too-peter

Nick says:

Wow, I've only just started coming to this site regularly and already, while I love it, I feel more depressed about living here. Ok, so I lie, my love for my girlfriend (and this country, kinda) is unshakeable, but most of the stories here have a negative slant to them once the comments come in. I'm all for being realistic and telling things how they are, but this site definitely puts a negative spin on the life of a farang here. Perhaps it's just the truth of how things are, but it's hard not to feel you might be better off not coming here and living as blissfully and ignorantly as possible! This site is almost entirely comprised of gallows humour.

Babydragon says:

Wow ! This Site just keeps hitting harder and harder , No Bullshit, No Pulled Punches, Its F...ing Great ! just the Real truth re Real issues facing Real People here in The LOS.

Great Stuff ! Great Advice! Great Reading ! Some Great People here !

Rosco says:

Damn me, I tried flinging myself off some fat Thai slut called Oil a few times, but I always survived.

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