Does Thailand turn you into a sex freak?

DaveMcK says:

your right.......

time to come home, come along now, come quietly, you know it makes sense

ridiculus richard says:

Does farang life turn you into a sex freak
This article hit home. I have benn coming to thailand since 1992. When I first came I found the lifestyle exotic and couldnot wait to return,gogo bars full of naked 22 year old women crawling over me and mutual groping. Every night a different women. Sukimvit road and the Thermae a smorgasbord of sex. I would stay at the Miami hotel on soi 13 and enjoy.
After about the 5th year I would walk down sukumvit some nights and find nothing interesting or in my mind that was worth my time. So I thought why not try a ladyboy they are every where and no one will know. It was my last night in thailand on that holiday so I tried one. The next trip back as soon as I checked in to the hotel down I went and picked up another ladyboy. Now when the ladies that are around appear pushy or pricey or just to old or ugly I look for a ladyboy.
Now I cannot wait to retire in thailand so I can partake of either at my whim. I was left for dead in Pattaya once but I still come back,I will tell that story sometime if you like. I should mention that I never went to Pattaya on my first 3 trips I spent most of my time up in the northt,I didnot want to become involved in that scene but somehow iI ended up there.
I can only hope something changes my drive and I can enjoy thailand without wrecking myself.

Charles Frith says:

RE: Does farang life turn you into a sex freak?

"These guys need sex like crack-addicts need a fix"

...erm these guys are addicted to crack but not off silver foil.

Richard James says:

Ridiculous Richard, Please tell us the "left for dead" story!?

David says:

You can find the "left for dead" story here:

http://www.mangosauce.com/archives/000164.html

ben says:

password for the site is : waddey
i am very impressed with this forum. my dick will never be the same. thai condoms are short. they not always cover the base. this allows for skin-on-skin contact. yes, welcome to the wonderful world of genital herpes even while shagging with protection. while juggling 150 girlfriends simultaneousley. you're bound to get one that you wish you never met. YES. YOU CAN GET SIV'S EVEN IF YOU WEAR A CONDOM!

i know you are a smart man david. and i respect your intelect. but did you know that? my bet is that you did. (my email: mytriptothailand@hotmail.com)

Tao Hua Ngu says:

Ha! This is the best fuck place in the hole world.
Where can you find pussies for fucking, licking, eating
and ping pongs popping out from their cunts for a few dimes?
I read that Purachai is sweeping the pussies under the carpet
; all I can say is good luck to him and his Thailand economy.
Without we farangs coming to feed the pussies, they would be bending
their backs to the sun in the northeast. I have a Thai girlfriend living with me
and gives me great blowjob while I watch TV, videos, books and I have tons to viagra
for free.

Dingaling Cutter says:

You guys have no brain. You just let dicks lead your lives... Good though !!... so that those who think with brains can enjoy doing their living on dickheads like you. We will be rich and you will be dickless, cuz they will be rotten and fall-off.

mandy says:

I feel sorry for guys who can't find a decent girl and have to resort to poor countries like Thailand. Guys who kid themselves that these "pretty" thai girls swoon over them because they are humourous, good looking,etc are pathetic. Wake up! They are nothing but whores! I don't understand why western guys find all thai girls attractive. Most of them are ugly as fuck and they look more like men. Don't forget that they always give you something to remind you of them -- STDs!

Decent Thai Girl says:

Thai girls are mostly 160-165 CM of height, smile and talk nice... never tried to act cool and most of the time they are modest. They shower twice a day, no matter how poor they are.

Farang girls have their arms at the size of Thai girls' legs... walk like female Rambo... freaky tall ... hairy...with that rolling pale eyes... and you say Thai girls are ugly.

It's true some poor Thai girls do those bad things for money... but isn't it worse.. farang girls sleep around for nothing... but fun.

My point is... if you think that farang guys are stupid, accuse them.. but don't insult Thai girls.. please.... you farang girls also have your own flaws.

mr peter says:

Why do falang men prefer thai ladies? easy because thats what they are. Even thai 'whores' behave better than most english slapppers who can be seen in any town on any weekend fallling down stupid drunk and generally making a spectacle of themselves. Men want real women and that's something increasingly hard to find in the UK full as it is of strident loudmouthed fatties who don't even know how to wipe their arses properly-peter

mandy says:

Sorry decent thai girl, I'm not white. The thai girls I see are not as tall as you say they are and look at their hands and feet! They smile because they want to be wined, dined and supported for the rest of their lives (or until a better catch comes up).

I'm sure there're a lot of decent thai girls who are kind and pretty but you don't find them hanging around hotels, nightclubs, pubs or streets. Decent thai girls work the hard way to make a living, not the lazy way by lying on their backs and spreading their legs. Decent thai girls don't jump inbto beds of strangers. Decent girls feel bad about wrecking families. I can continue this endless list of things decent thai girls don't do but they are exactly the things their shameless counterparts do and they are the ones I was talking about.

I'm not saying that only thai whores are to blame. They exist because there's a demand. Guys who seek solace and ego boost from whores are pathetic. They think they get laid because of what they are but in fact it is what they pay that counts. Some of them even think as long as I don't hand them cash it's not a sexual transaction. Come on! You buy them gifts, pay for nearly everything! What is that? Peanuts?!

Having said all that you may think I'm against the whole sex industry. I'm not. I am against whores who pretend to be decent girls to hunt guys for a meal ticket.

I have seen many families broken because of thai whores. They are easy and they are persistant. Men think they are timid little sex minx but wait till you marry them. They are with you because they haven't found a better one yet. Whenever you try to ditch them they tell you they're pregnant. When they can't get you to marry them they run away with another guy but make sure you are well informed that they are unhappy, imprisoned in the guy's house and in life danger. (But they never call the police for help). It really bugs me guys buy this shit.

Decent thai girl, think about it yourself. With sisters like these and guys dopey like that, real decent girls get hurt.

Somchai says:

Mandy... Get a grip on reality. Your attitude and spouting off is exactly why we don't care for American or English or ... women. I don't pay prostitutes to have sex with me... I pay them to go home in the morning! So I don't have to listen to the constant whines (like you are now exemplifying). Geeezzz! When it comes down to it... Men ALWAYS have to pay for sex. You don't think that big house in the suburbs, the two cars, the jewelry, etc., etc., etc. (sorry Yule)... costs the man anything? And then, God forbid he wants to get a divorce... he gets stripped of half (or more in many case) of his wealth. Screw that man! Screw it!

You are so far off the truth! You have no clue what it's all about. Wise Up Woman! Sex for money is WAY cheaper than sex for free ends up being. WAY CHEAPER! And by the way, let's face itÖ Sex is a NEEDÖ and a man's agenda is totally different than a woman's as far as sex goes! You're just ìsour grapesî aren't you? LOL - Ha-Ha-HaÖ I love it!

UKThaigirl says:

I get really offended by comments like the ones made by Mandy. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but they're so generalised and obviously haven't been thought about before typed up.

I'm Thai but was born and brought up in the UK. I have nothing against what Go-go bar girls and some farangs do when they visit Thailand. Its all about supply and demand; and wants and needs that have to be fulfilled.

But, quote:

"They are nothing but whores! I don't understand why western guys find all thai girls attractive. Most of them are ugly as fuck and they look more like men. Don't forget that they always give you something to remind you of them -- STDs!"

Sorry, I didn't realise that only Thai girls ALWAYS give out STDs. I actually wonder how these 'Thai whores' catch STDs in the first place.. hmmm.. lets see. Considering that they probably only sleep with Farang men who don't want to use a condom... interesting.. and where could these farang men have caught STDs if they've visited Thailand for the first time...

and, quote:

"They smile because they want to be wined, dined and supported for the rest of their lives "

I guess thats where Thai girls are different to 'other' girls. We smile to catch our 'preys', where other girls get drunk and flash their minging saggy boobs and ass. And who the fuck doesnt want to be wined, dined and supported for the rest of their lives..???!?

Western men visiting Thailand for the sex industy, is, i suppose the equivalent to 'some' girls visiting the local nightclub or Ibiza for a fuck or two, except, these girls end up being the equivalent to a prostitute becuase men have spent so much money on them, buying their drinks.

I appreciate your comments, but please Mandy, stop generalising and stereotyping... As for some Farang men going back for more, i guess us 'Thai-ugly-as-fuck-whores' are doing something right.. maybe you could get a few tips from us..
We may look like men, but some of our Thai men look more stunning than some non-thai girls...

jackal says:

Thanks for the 'heads-up' UKTHAIGIRL,

Although it's always nice to get a new perspective, yours is sadly very out-of-touch with your 'motherland'.

How do Thai girls get the STD's?

'Thai whores' catch STDs in the first place.. hmmm.. lets see. Considering that they probably only sleep with Farang men who don't want to use a condom'....Get real!!!!!

Before they even get to the bright lights of Bangkok/Pattaya etc they've already been fucked by the Isaan locals / fathers / brothers that pimp them out in the first place. Then on arrival by their 'uncles' / ponce/drug dealer boyfriends', all of whom happen to be Thai.

Do your research first dear girl....over 90% of sex trade clientele in Thailand is from Thai clientele...however, Rachada road aside,...most of these places are discreet and hence go largely unnoticed. These places are off-limits to farangs and are to be found all over the country!

In addition to this...take the average Thai guy's attitude to responsibility, and their general fatalist attitude, you can bet that pulling on a condom takes just a little too much time and effort and planning for the average Thai guy, especially in comparison with his generally higher educated farang.

Sorry to say...girls from all walks of life here ('high-so' through to farm girls) are much closer to the definition of 'whore' than any country I've ever visited before. Maybe it's time you came back for a visit :-)

Mike says:

Anyone know the guy with the 25 girls in the picture behind the bar at the Eden Club ? They say he did them all, but did he survive or collapse down Sukhumvit later? The girls there are pretty enthusiastic and know how to get the juice out of a guy - or so I'm told! He should tell us his birthday story? Does he qaulify as a sex freak ?

mr peter says:

Well if that guy got the same time that I did whenever I went to Eden, even doing 25 he would have not been in there long enough to cause serious damage to himself-peter

Mike says:

Well Peter - I think he bought extra time to complete the task and if you felt short changed, I am sure Marc will give you a free round - never heard of anyone being turned out in less than 90 min and that is usually is long enough for most guys to get 2 rounds in !. Anyway nice to see some guys taking their wives in - who I am assured get "taken care of" first - on second thoughts it might have been his Ma!

LBlover says:

I see that Mandy hasn't replied to any of the comments. Perhaps she has crawled back into her hole of ignorance. From what I've read, I believe that she is jealous of the Thai women. Like Decent Thai girl refered to, the falang women are usually much more amazonian then the Thai women. Many a night I'd sit along side Walking Street in Pattaya & be reminded of just how large falang women are as they'd walk by every now & then. Not only that, but in any culture who is it that is the preditor & who the prey? Who has to do the courting? Who pays for the meals on a date? Who has to be the one to pusue? I have a term for it.....POP! Power of pussy.... If you want to equate it financially, all women know that they hold this power & use it for financial gain in one way or another such as as Somchai wrote. That house, that car, cable TV, dining out, blah, blah, blah. It's just nature! Men live for sex, women live to prosper from that. No matter where in this world you live!.....

stu_$ says:

i would like to draw the attention of all the farang ladies, like" mandy " who go off about guys who go with thai prostitute's
if you ever cared to look it up you would find:

pros?ti?tute ( P ) Pronunciation Key (prst-tt, -tyt)
n.
#1One who solicits and accepts payment for sex acts.
#2One who sells one's abilities, talent, or name for an unworthy purpose.

so, in reality, most of us are in fact ...prostitutes,
stu$

mr peter says:

Mike I have to say I consider Eden to be a rip off and would not go again. I have been four times between it opening and last Sept, so over a long period and always got the same service. This was a rushed and business like session which every time lasted about 45 minutes. The money back promise is just that IMO. Marc knows how long you have had then has the nerve to ask you if you were happy with the experience. Having just had sex with two ladies both of them standing there it is most unlikely a customer would feel pissed off enough to complain, it's only later when you come to your senses you realise you have been short changed again. Eden want you in and out, so to speak, as quickly as possible, just my experience-peter

Anonymous says:

Peter - business-like ? yes, I have to agree; and I must admit some sessions have been more fun than other. Timed most of them at 70-90min - but depends on the girls a lot; know anywhere else you can get 2 for 3200B? and be certain you get girls who know what they are doing? so I have to vote for pretty well satisfied with the experience - sorry! ....Do let me know of anywhere you find better!

mr peter says:

Anonymous, surely two girls can be had for short time for 3200 baht, BF about 2x500 plus 2x1000 baht for the girls. You should of course get longer than a few minutes , and longer to choose your partners so more likely to have a good time. Places like the club discussed pressure customers into a quick choice. There is nothing special about it's prices, girls or service. It's a pity there are not more places along the same lines, but more customer friendly.-peter

Mike says:

Peter - Hey, let me know where you can get a nice looking girl for 1000B! next time I will try harder at chucking-out time outside Nana, they are getting desperate by then! - and no bar fine! Does anyone know of an Eden-like club but better ?- Mike

mr peter says:

Mike, unless prices have shot up very recently this price is very possible at most beer bars. I have not paid more than this at beer bars close to NEP for example. Of course they will ask more if they think you are new, clueless or rich. I know of a club much better and cheaper than Eden-Thermae. If you are selective I have found the most interesting ladies there and much better service than down the road. I would not call Eden a club but a brothel , last time I went they were taking customers off to a nearby hotel, also as you know you cannot just go in for a drink so it cannot really be called a club.-peter

Mike says:

Hi again Peter,
agreed & admitted... at the Soi 7 Beer Garden its possible for 1000B later in the evening, but now it seems to be usually 1500B ST. Thanks for the tip I'll try Thermae next time. I notice you use the word 'interesting' and not 'more attractive' ...so you've spotted that the most georgeous are not always the best !! - Mike
p.s. After this correspondance can we now qualify as addicts?

mr peter says:

Mike comparing average daily pay rates 1,000 baht would be about 4-5 days pay in LOS. In UK the average daily rate of pay is around 65 pounds x 4-5 times that comes to around 300 pounds which is the rate a top agency might charge for ST of about two hours in London. Therefore I think 1000 baht is still paying well and 1500 even more so, certainly not 'cheap sex'. Yet you see girls asking for much more than this, but why do people pay it , more money than sense? I estimate though that in the past four years alone I have spent more than 25,000 pounds going to LOS, so I must be addicted to something-peter

John U says:

Mr. Peter, it's funny but I just knocked up an amusing ( well I think it's amusing) piece about addiciton. It mirrors most of what you said. I sent it to Stickman, but he's a bit scared to put it on at the moment so I've attached it below:-

ìHi I'm Johnî

All the guys sat around say ìHi Johnî

ìI'm a Thai shaggerî

Grave nods around the room

ìI've been Thai shagging for 6 years. Yes every three months for 6 yearsî

Intakes of breath all around

ìI couldn't help myself. I was drawn to that country by a powerful force. It was like being in a Tom & Jerry cartoon. Like being attached to Thailand by a strong elastic band. The further I got from Bangkok the stronger the pull, until I snapped back to Sukhumvitî

Murmurs of understanding from the audience.

ìI still feel that pull. It's on my mind night and dayî

More murmurs and serious faces

ìI haven't shagged a Thai for three months nowî

Shouts of ìYeahî, ìRight onî, ìWell doneî

ìTrouble is it's been three months and I'm due for another tripî - (looks around the room desperately)
ìI need help guys. I've got to break this addiction but the drag is so strong now and getting stronger every day. I find it hard to sleep now without thinking of a Thai lady. That lovely soft brown skin. Those lovely eyes. That welcoming smile. Those lovely tight bums, and sexy legsî

Group groans of ìOoooooohî, ìLovelyî, ìShut the fuck upî

ìMy hands are shaking, my knees are weak, I can't seem to stand on my own two feetî

Murmurs of understanding from the group again

One guy ìWhere the fuck have I heard that beforeî

ìOh god, I find it so hard. And that's another thing, I keep getting an erection every time I think about returning. You all know how embarrassing that can be sometimes, when the fucking thing won't go downî

Grins around the room

ìI've done some bad things so may times. You all know what I mean.î

The guys in the group ìSureî, ìWe do OKî

ìI've had a different lady every night for three weeksî

Group: ìNoî, ìFuck meî, ìThree weeks!î

ìI've filled every orifice you can think of. Not because I wanted to, but because it was availableî

Group, with nods of understanding ìYesî, ìWe've all done itî, ìWe're with you manî

One guy: ìYou dirty fucker!î

ìI didn't realise what I was doing. I was drugged with the pleasure and eroticism. I've even shagged them without a condomî

Group: ìOh noî

ìYes I haveî (Tears in my eyes. Take a minute to wipe them away)

ìAnd the money I've spent on shagging is way too much. With the money I've spent shagging Thais I could have built a new extension on my house. I could have bought a new car. I could have had a farang prostitute every night for two weeksî

Group: ìWowî, ìLoads of doughî

One guy ìI know, fucking Elvisî

ìSo I need help bad before I crack again, and maybe by coming and talking to you guys I can hold it off for one more dayî

Group: ìyeah we're with you manî, ìkeep coming to the meetingsî

One more day, that's all I ask one more day, and after that one more day, and after thatÖ. you never know. When will this yearning end? Maybe when I hit 70, or 80, who knows?

craut says:

hi Mandy
Yes of course, thaigirls are not pretty, but beautyful. You don`t like the job that they do, don`t do it. You don`t like men who like thaigirls, well, never give a ( your) man a ticket for Thailand. You will loose. It`s not only sex, that these girls give. Sex or fucking a man can everywhere, feeling and sex only there.
craut

joiner says:

thai girls are the best I,ve been all over the world

thats why we all keep going back to thailand

YouKnowWho says:

I LOVE THIS COUNTRY!!!!!

Domenico says:

If and only if all man in the world were as some tai-sex addict in this board...the world was ended.
No moral, no strong family, no deep realtions, no love(why?)...
PS: sorry for my poor English

PPS: my friend soffered for years with his thai wife (oh...she was so sweet...but here in Italy! OMG! she spent her day doing nothing only shopping...and then she started speaks Italian everybody start to understand - SHE HAS NOTHING TO TELL! Only plastic smile...It's so boring! )

Bagwan says:

I have never been asked for money by a Beer Garden lady although we both know that she is supplementing her income. I have on the majority of occasions stayed at their pad which invariably is clean and comfortable i.e. not a hovel. Depending on OUR performance I leave between 700 and 1000 baht on the side when I leave in the morning. I am a long standing resident and would never consider Nana, Patpong and/or Soi Cowboy. One visit to those places years ago put me off and I doubt that things have improved in the interim.

JR says:

I dunno if you knew but to wear amulets during sex or into the bathroom is invitation for bad luck to say the least, there is a proper way to reposition the amulets in the bathroom. You are supposed to remove amulets during sex... but then again perhaps you meant it as "IF YOU WANT TO DAM YOURSELF TO INFINITY then wear..."

Emir Abn-ar Post says:

Trying to post yourself to infinity, JR? Good start.

Anyone ever driven over the Infinity Dam? What was the name of that river ... was it ... the Lethe?

dan says:

hey mandy, did your husband leave you for a thai girl?
you sure do sound bitter.

me says:

@craut:

>It`s not only sex, that these girls give.
>Sex or fucking a man can everywhere,
>feeling and sex only there.

Try the philippines.

me

Jules says:

Have to join the chorus.

Mandy, get a life. You will earn far more than your Thai working girl sisters ever will and you can afford to look down on them. Have some compassion for Thai working girls, they have it hard.

Noble Drew Ali says:

I agree with everything Ms mandy said, excepts about the hands and feet. One stupid bastard gringo man, looked at my toes and told me that the shoes I wear are two small. This is racialist nonsense because I know shoes and feet, I don't need Mr Whitey to tell me.

And how come whenever there is a car accident peoples shoes come off. Ha, ha. After I asked him that he was quiet for a very long period.

But getiing back to whores and such, it's not that that guy in the photo us a sex freak. I've seen his look before and evidently will see it again.

Last year was the best year of my life for the business of fucking and I think taht a whoires gotta be paid because that's how they make their living.

You know that in China most people live on less than 10 american dollars a year and yet they are happy. Only privately will they gripe to friends and acquantences, but purely from a philosophical viewpoint. Yesterday's man is not always tomorrows hero as they well may say.

Anyway, I enjoy mangosauce very much and would like to thank all the poeple for their contributions.

s kin mee of says:

Anonymous:

Try pattaya beach road, between 2-3am, between soi 12 and walking street. Along the pathway you'll see a group of girls who will offer you sex with them and there friends for 500 baht each. Even the bars up the walking street soi's, err carasel or something were charging 500baht each but you'll have to pay the 500baht each bar tab.

Niall says:

Two things:

1. Only take freelancers from Beach Road (or anywhere else) if you know what you are doing. IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. That barfine gives you some (not a lot but some) comeback if it all goes pear shaped.

2. Again with the feminazi 'I feel sorry for you becaase you can't find a decent girl'. There are no decent girls left in the west they are all dried up old hags at 20 and they never stop bitching. How about WE DON'T WANT YOU DEAL WITH IT and if we are all pathetic losers why are you so concerned with us?

Jules says:

S KIN MEE OF,

You are really brave!!!!!!

The ladies who work there are the dregs of Thailand. If you do not believe me then look at the men preying on them, would you go with someone like that????

I did a quick survey at the weekend of the ladies on the wall and I discovered that 75% were deformed/ugly/repulsive, 10% were almost as drunk/high as their customers, 10% were ladyboys and 5% were just enjoying the night's air.

I must admit I did see 2 that I was almost tempted to take.

BUT I NEVER WOULD.

Streetmeat is the most damgerous food of all. Take a streetwalker and you are asking for trouble.

peacetoall says:

I'm a thai girl. Living in a western world makes me realize how good looking FaRang girls are. Just drive pass my school and you wil realize how good looking they are. They are very slim and trendy. Not every Thai woman is a whore(very few indeed), but most of us are not that good looking. This is what I admit.

NJW's uncle says:

I know, I'm hanging around outside my local school now, thai whores are for losers, give me a nice falang schoolgirl any day!
Seriously though just as not every thai girl is a whore not all falang girls are 'slim and trendy' and it's not just beacuse of looks that we prefer thai girls. Lots to read here about why most of us prefer thai girl manners and behaviour to the ladettes who can be seen staggering about our town centres most nights after too much drink-ugh they are worse than any thai whore.

white uncle says:

lots of farang girls are beautiful fm 18 till 30 n they go down hill very fast from there. the asian girls have longer lasting beauty and even when they are 40++ their face, skin, etc.. are still of very good feel.

another is the vagina of farang girls are much bigger then the typical asian/tg. and for a farang like me, i am not too big but of respectable size compared with most asian guys, i find the asian girls being more impressed when they see my other brother. perhaps they like to feel something that can actually fill them up and their vagina have a grip on.

Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus says:

White uncle,

You really, REALLY should have stopped typing after the first paragraph. Now, respectable mini-dig, go find wankhead and both of you should subscribe to www.amiaminger.com

NJW's uncle, you are totally right, and thanks for your post, we do look ëinside' the girls too! Thai girls (normally) win twice.

Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus

Jules says:

Peacetoall,

You have developed very good grammar in your time in the West and your verb tenses are somewhere between very good and excellent.

Your errors however appear to be almost .........contrived.

Good try but Thais have very poor grammar first and foremost because it is not a Thai concept and it is the mark of an excellent education that the tenses are correct.

Keep up the schoolwork.

ben says:

could any one tell me what 555 stands for

Greg says:

The number 5 is pronounced in Thai as "ha"

none says:

555 = "hahaha" = hahahahahah (laugh)

YABS says:

I think a lot of us are trying to kid ourselves
after 3 yaesr in thailand i think it is in someways sexual suicide. its almost like giving up.
fact of the matter is there are nice farang girls aound
you just have to try harder.
thai girls are very pretty but it is rare to find one
who is well educated
how some seemingly well educated men
fall for an undecucated gilr from the rice paddies is beyond me. there is more to a relationship than sex.
I'm just not sure whether its possible to find the true love we all want deep down in thailand.
I may be wrong.
a tru thais definaition of love is differnet from ours. she will want you to take care of her family. if you don't then you don't love her.
I think it would be possible to have a good relationship with a girl who was maybe educated
in the west and or very well educated
if you are to get past the cultural differences.
marrying a bar girl staright fromn the rice paddies
like a lot of guys do is utterly sad.
have fun with them, but don't marry them.
I'm not looking down on these girls. fair play to them, its just the muppets who fall for them
who need help

mrpeter says:

Yabs you seem to confuse education with intelligence, just becasue a gal aint had no skoolin does not mean she is not intelligent. Do you really think the thai education system is turning out well educated graduates who can think? I don't. Just as not all thai grads are all that bright some of their poor issan bargirl sisters can outshine them in the thinking dept. I don't go for these 'educated' middle class thai girls mainly because they are seemingly not interested in much that is thai, and often seem to be desperatly trying to be as western as possible. Give me a girl who loves luktung, I don't care wheres she's from or how smart she is, well obviously she would be-peter

Prorogue says:

Good point.

Q. How many bargirls have I met with a greater command of English, common sense and initiative than Thais with Masters degrees?

A. Many

TANAI KWAI says:

You know, Yabs, there is something to what you say about seemingly unbridgeable divides of culture, education, etc. I posted something yesterday that echoes your sentiments, though casting them more as concerns than aspersions.

But I just got off the phone with my TGF -- just a quick 10-second conversation -- and found myself smiling joyfully, and feeling good all over.

(and she didn't even say anything raunchy)

TING TAWNG says:

I met one bar-girl.....we were playing the connect 4 game.....I deliberately allowed her to drop 3 of her dimes in a row on the bottom row. It means she just needs to drop another one either side of the 3 - two ways to beat me. She didn't see it. I beat her something like 20 games to zero. I asked the Mama if this meant I could get a free shag off her.

Having said that, most bar-girls are meta-physicists living an alternative lifestyle.

YABS says:

Mr Peter
with all due respect you seem to be confusing intelligence with being streetwise. Sure there are exceptions to the rule but most bar girls will be scheming money hungry hoes.
I mean would you marry a hoe in the west.
if the answer is no then why do blokes doi it in the east? Same same
only differnece is that a thai hoe will go anywhere
from short time to long time being years.
most blokes don't seem to understand that if they take them formm the bar, they are still working.
If they amrry you, they are still working.
when i said this to an ex "middle class' thaigirlfriend
she looked amazed and said 'how do you know this?". As if it was a national secret scam and for many misguided fools it remnains a secret. They simply do not get what its all about. If you talk to some educated middle class (if it exists) thais you will learn that in thai society the bargilr is the lowest of the low. The ones who sleep with falng are the lowest. For a thai girl to do this then she has basically turned her back on thai society
so I'm not sure what Mrpeter is saying when he says they are more thai. enjoying a 12 chilli som tam poo with plaa raa doesn't necessarily make them more thai.
Even a bargirl told me in Patong never to get involved with bargilrs there romantically.
"this is business country" she said " to get good girl here you will have to be very very lucky".
I couldn't see what she meant at the time but now i do. Anyone who gets involved with these bar girls
has to be some sort of mug/freak.

YABS says:

I meant to say
if they marry you not amryy you!

Kermit says:

Yabs,
after 3 years in LOS you obviously have your finger on the pulse and are well versed in the ways of Thai's, (no matter what their educational level), lets hope the rest of my fellow 'Muppets, Mugs and Freaks' heed your sagely advice.

Combover says:

From reading your comments on the con-woman thread Yabs, it's clear that you know only too well how easy it is to get sucked in by one of these girls.

Whether your particular honey is all she says she is is another matter, but your friend's freelancer theory certainly looks reasonable.

She's not necessarily a whore but if you find out tomorrow that she has made a bit of pocket money on the side does that suddenly make you a muppet or a mug or a freak?

You might be more of a mug to drop her if she's living off others' wages and you're getting it for free.

mr peter says:

Yabs I said nothing about BG's being more thai than anyone else. Of course by and large they are more devious,dishonest and unreliable that goes with the territory. Yes they are often a disaster area where marriage is concerned and only the very opptimstic or foolhardy would consider otherwise. As friends though to knock about with they are much more fun than the snotty nosed middle class girl who often seem to value western culture above thier own. As for intelligence fortunately this cannot be bought so although educationally disadvantaged miss bargirl is quite often no worse off. I have met quite a few bg's who just do it for a couple of years while putting themselves through some course or other and also have enough saved to buy a house, then they have just stopped. Thats more intelligent than working your arse off in a factory for 40 years and ending up with nothing to show for it. So what if people look down on them, many of those sorts are involved in some sort of corruption in one way or another so have no right to be looking down on anyone else.
You sound like you've had enough of thailand, well the nightlife anyway-peter

YABS says:

KERMIT
I didn't knowingly know she was/is a whore which is a world of difference to actually taking a working girl knowing she is working away to marry.
I'm sure there are good ones but the odds are stacked against you and i think to take one as a wife i maintain is a little sad to say the least.
I mean could you feel proud of yourself?
Mr peter
i still enjoy the nightlife but i regeret spending so much time in it when there are plenty of normal thai girls available.

mr peter says:

And of spending so much cash on it as well I should think, same here, but most people seem to get to a point where the expense, risk, hassles start to outweigh the pleasure. Good luck with the normal girls-peter

YABS says:

yes that as well!
although if yoiu take a girl to the cinema or restaurant it costs roughly the same!
I just don't get much from it anymore
used to be good to go out shopping for a girl
you wanted but now i'd rather get a bit more menatlly connected with a girl.
I feel like i wasted my best years on those hookers now. I'm 30 now and i spent my late twenties with these hookers
this time should of been spent on proper girls.
hoiokers can be had at any age
good looking young normal ones cant
just hope i havn't left it too late!
I just think its a very dangerous place to be
you cantotally lose the plot.
I've never slept with whores in england so why did
i do it in thailand when really it is so easy to meet
normal girls.
the new nana is emporium
theres countless girls there and if you dress well
you can take them out
Also salons etc have a lot of girls and friends.
some of these are hookers too but a lot aren't.
anyone got any other tips for meeting "good' girls?

YABS says:

my view of whoring now
is just like having a posh wank!vaguely gratifying but ultimately not as good as good as the real thing!

mr peter says:

For gods sake nobody tell me the internet, still makes me shudder thinking about some of the girls (not all turned out to be) met through that work of the devil. I have spent hours wandering about the emporium but never saw anyone who looked like they wanted to chat never mind shag, but then lots of thai girls say I look like a ladyboy so maybe that explains it.
Shagging whores can be great fun, but also often disappointing. Marrying one is mostly just insane as is proven to me all the time seeing falang/bg couples in the UK I always think of it a bit like being a comic and paying people to laugh at your jokes. If you are shagging a girl who is only with you because you are paying her, well it don't really count does it. I like bargirls now more for company than sex and if you are only there for a couple of weeks at a time it's about all you can hope for, except meeting them off the internet-peter

ollie gay guy in london says:

Hey, just thought I'd say a little bit about prositution, I met a couple of lovely guys (thai) and was all tempted by the sex industry..I found meeting these people I was going to pay, thai people that I have come across when i was there were really lovely, geneous and kind with Manners that the english (like me) could learn a lot from. I didnt pay in the end (not moneyboys) and most meals etc were shared in price...hang about for a bit where ever you go and maybe you will meet one of the thai people that isnt a whore! fair enough dont expect it in pattaya but then if you want to see real thailand you wont go there in the 1st place! re prostitutes m friends have been with the whole fee thing traditionally is a 'tip' and goes a long way for the poorer people...if you trat a thai person well and give a decent tip 700-1000bht I'd rather have the affectionate nature of a thia whore than anywhere else....and in that case if you both have fun then its mutually benificial ... i do realise its not all that pretty and sometimes awful when there is explotation but the tradition of it can be a good thing (in some cases) ! i gues i am just saying even if you regard a person as a sex object then you are going to lose out, if you like them but you are not going to be attactive to them and they are just doing it for the money, then give them a good 'tip' and treat them well and at least then you can know they did get something out of it

cauc.chic says:

Yabs, Do you have a job? Why don't you meet them there?

Yabs says:

I do have a job yes nut offshore on a boat
You don't get many women there at all
let alone thai women.
I come to thailnd every 6 weeks for a months break

Rock Doctor says:

Can we bring back Mandy please? Where are you?
Geez you were certainly in a ragweek induced man-hating and beautiful-Thai-girl-hating mood that day weren't you? I'm new to this site so I've just seen your posts.

I've been to Thailand three times - the last was 8 years ago. I'll be back soon so if you are around, Mandy, let me know via this site. I'd just love to see how horrible you are.

I know many Thai girls - most of them carnally - and I have nothing but utter respect for them. I learnt to speak Thai and found that the vast majority of them are intelligent, sensitive, intelligent, creative, intelligent, and have respect for farang women - regardless how ugly they are. Ugliness is not only physical, Mandy. Perhaps you are physically beautiful but for sure you are one ugly son of a bitch.

And another thing. In my three visits to Thailand, I shagged about 100 thai girls. Moslty without using a condom. And I never got an STD! Least of all, the mythical AIDS. I shag one farang bird in London - I get a dose of the clap! What does that say to you, Mandy.

I'm sure you were winding us all up. Please respond so we know that we aren't all mugs.

jeff2 says:

The only downside to all this is that it's too goddamn easy! I was in Thailand this summer and basically fulfilled my every fantasy. And it wasn't enough. It was only when one morning I woke up next to a rough but attractive girl that I had met on a street restaurant in Sukumvit and had to terrible realisation that I'd barebacked her and would probably have AIDs, that I started to ask myself the ultimate question! What's it all about and when will it end? I realised that the answer was that I'd never be satisfied and that the whole thing was strangely shallow and depressing at the end of the day. Fucking great fun at the time mind - but as I've done it so many times I started to realise that the truth is that having a girl that you love and can trust is more than anything. The alternative is an eternal mission to keep fucking until you end up one of those afore mentioned sleaseballs or dying on an AIDS ward.

ozricmann says:

i think is does turn you into a pervert...... in a nice way

I was just saying to my friend the other day that the longer i stay in Bangkok the more of a pervert i am becoming. just walking around Siam square on any given day of the week turns me into a googly eyed perv..........!

i take the sky train in the mornings and there it is again, i lose concentration i must concentrate for work but no its gone again and i turn into pervo again..............!

So a spot of shopping at the mall should be ok but this has to be the worst place of all, i forget what im buying, why im here and what im i going to do next.
the problem is solved, i head straight for the foodcourt to eat, that should take my mind of it.

then a young sexy chick swivels round in her seat and asks if i work in bangkok or am i just on holiday, so i begin converstation and my mind is now thinking clearly. its thinking when can i get the chance to take you for a somewhere private, i just want to get to know her better.

it just is amazing here, not only can you look but you can very much touch as well.

this rarely happens to me happens to me when i am in london on a break and when it does the girl in question is just not so forthcoming or sweet and innocent with it either.

"you see david......... the perv is racing to the surface again" !

david said:

"but most people don't live in Thailand. Here, the opportunities for misbehaviour are mind-boggling. Everywhere you go, pretty girls hover like flies. Anyone with a few quid in his pocket can share the suffering of Hollywood's elite.

"yes thats right and boy do i want to suffer, for as the case is brought before the jury i am clearly guilty as charged".

'i forget how many times i have been convicted though my record is getting rather long' !.
'the longer the better i say'!

cm says:

i am 31 and have had many relationships with girls in uk and have slept with over 300 girls in uk. my last girlfriend screwed me over BIG TIME mentally not financially although he was a gold digger(arent they all!!)i went to with some friends and a great time and now i love LB'S so much so that i visit Thailand 3-4 times a year and have many LB@s that i stay in contact with and have so much fun with , i have never been happier its wonderful xx

Dan says:

Jeasus guys, just get over it. You can pay pretty women to have sex with you, big deal.

Anonymous says:

show me a pretty thai women!! and they are not that good in bed either take a walk on the dark side . i have done it all so i move to the next level man..the next buzz yippeeeeee. off the LOS next week

G says:

I have just come back from probably my tenth trip to thailand and had an absolute ball, i hav gotten to know a few thai people over these trips and yes it is about the money but why not these people are running a business, from the bargirl to the girl who cleans my hotel room, who doesnt like a few xtra dollars to spend on themselves or there family, the trick is the thais do it so god damn well and with a smile, there service is second to none.I go to the supermarket at home and all i see are sour faces looking back at me, no wonder i cant wait to take my next trip.My sister thinks im a sex fiend for going back all the time but i try to explain to her its more than that, yes they have some of the most beautiful girls on the planet but even the ugly ones r just so much fun to be around and hav a chat with, the food is amazing, i love the hot steamy weather and the service from everyone there keeps me coming back so im more than willing to pay for what in my home country is small money to them can feed there family for a week for a couple weeks of indulgence like no other place ive ever been.

hentaigaijin says:

you should try living here - it ain't all that great. you'll get over it. shelling out to bang whores is not the be-all and end-all of life.

aside from the whores, what is there? rice? shopping malls? you can find pool tables back home, and bowling alleys too for that matter.

thailand is pretty cool sometimes. but it's not THAT good.

Landmark Larry says:

A lot of bargirls have very slim smooth bodies, but how can anyone call them pretty? I just can't see it. With respect, I don't find big flat noses and faces at all attractive.

It takes more than a slim body to interest me. I reckon that most men who claim to love Thailand so much would secretly prefer a slim pretty European woman if they could get one.

It's just that there are not enough really slim women available to ordinary guys. In the UK we've got a lot of mingers with very lumpy overweight bodies, so the few beauties get snapped up. And once you're over 40 it just gets even tougher, as almost all women of similar age are horrific.

Thai bargirls are not the answer, and most of them are not that great in bed anyway.

dickman says:

Yes hentaigaijin, not sure about living in the province but living in Bangkok truly sucks in my experience.

That can be pretty nasty from what I've learned. We might after a while get used to the horrible traffic, smog, noise, rotten smells, humidity, rats, low income, lack of timeliness, language you can't read/understand, lies and general fakeness but at that moment we are probably already over the somehow superficial excitement of the endless supply of girls who you never truly understand anyway.

Well, if you are a lonely middle aged unemployed ugly guy living in northern Sweden in an old rotten cottage out in the forest but near a polluting power plant or smelly farm and want to escape from your credit card debt, I guess you would find Bangkok an improvement of your life in every way.

Or alternatively, if you simply are or wanna be a sex freak it's also an ok place to settle down I guess.

AFR says:

Landmark Larry, I understand where you're coming from. But for me, the one thing that western chicks will never match their eastern sisters in is femininity. Its not something one can put their finger on, but whether its a bar on Soi 33, the sidewalks at lunchtime around Silom, or the night markets near Ram Uni, Thai girls have the grace that white chicks can only dream of. Oh year, that and body hair. I could NEVER go back to snuggling up to leg stubble...

Wombat says:

Landmark Larry

Interesting scenario. When given the opportunity to choose between the girls with "big flat noses" & "very slim smooth bodies" or "very lumpy overweight bodies", both of whom are quite possibly lousy in bed which one would you choose?

Landmark Larry says:

Wombat

I've given up! Sex is not the be all and end all really, unless you really like the girl.

I was in Thailand recently for 11 days and decided to only go with a girl if she was absolutely stunning, could converse a bit, and if I also detected a bit of chemistry.

I found one, on the 9th night. In England I don't even bother looking any more.

I've possibly been spoilt by the two most recent relationships I had in England. They both knew their way around a double bed and were true professionals in every aspect of sex.

As I've said before in another post, Thailand is still a great place to holiday for a single guy, even if he doesn't have a girl every night, which I admit I used to do.

dickman says:

Wombat, my answer is...I would use my brain, kick the ass of whoever gave me such limited opportunities and walk away.
By the way, I personally prefer Asian beauty, but depending on where you live, it might not be so difficult to find a really cute Asian girl in your own country, if you try a bit. Unless of course you are an unattractive, alcoholic, old, ugly or poor guy and live in a place with few Asian girls.
California is a good example of an area where the opportunities for finding cute Asian girls are endless.

somchai says:

once you go thai, you'll never get tired...

bwahahahahaha...

but wait, there's another somchai on this board?

hmm...

and an angry one, too.

*ps. thailand doesn't turn farang into freaks; freaky farangs come to thailand. we also have our own freaks. it's one freaky world we live in.

Pyrrha says:

It is addictive, as are all pleasurable things, like alcohol, nicotine, food, gambling, etc.

It is also true that addiction causes suffering. Check out the Four Noble Truths.

However, taking a realistic attitude helps. I was very impressed by the person who commented that the bargirls are just working (even when they get married).

Thailand is not a rich country. These are not rich women. Sentiment is fine but money is important if there is no health insurance, no pension, no unemployment benefit, and your elderly mother needs food and shelter.

Whoring is not a high status job, but at least it pays well. And if you're going to whore you may as well enjoy it - smile, laugh, be nice to your clients and they may be nice to you.

That is charming to many western men who want a bit of fun, away from the mortgage, 9-5 grind, and raising kids.

Incidentally, I do like Western women normally. But it is nice for a mature man to have a woman in her twenties sometimes - the firm body, smooth skin, fresh face, bright eyes, tight cunt...

If you can manage alcohol, gambling, etc, then this addiction shouldn't ruin you.

mr squirty says:

I dont know if Thailand turns you into a perv bcoz I was already a masturbating wreck before I went there.
Face it though, there's no need to spend time & money chasing euro mingers when sexy young things are so readily available in BKK.