What do farang girls say about us?

TANAI KWAI says:

"...whose husbands always come home late, smelling of soap."

GodDAMN that's brutal. Heads will explode.

Cynic says:

What's this bullshit about Thai women keeping their mouth's shut?

My wife hasn't shut the fuck up for six years. No different to my mum and she's a farang.

Personally, I don't really care what nationality a girl is as long as I find her attractive. I don't think Thai women are more beautiful (quality) than white women - but I do think there are more beautiful (quantity) Thai women than, say, Australia for example.

smee says:

ah..I am so sorry....
I will continue voting with my dick...
and you may continue voting with your mouth..

how can you knock STDs when you have not tried them?

MR X says:

Well i've gotta say im not usually in agreement with David's posts, but i think he has a point here. While im not sure of the numbers, i personally have met a large number of farang girls who have real resentment for the 'thaigirl+farang guy' partnership. Sure - fair enough to have ill feeling towards protitution etc if you so wish, but what is so wrong with a white guy having a relationship with a thai girl? And why does Mandy seem to think that every thai girl is a prostitute? it seems to me that she knows very little about the country and the culture, and should be maybe look into the situation a bit more closely before sending such ill-informed, offensive emails.

Oh yeah and one more thing?

"Most of them are ugly as fuck "

I have no idea where you got his from, but trust me, you are very very wrong. Sure, while a beautiful woman is beautiful regardless of her nationality, i think i big part of it is that Thai woman take a lot of pride in their appearance, in particular their weight and so there are a large number of woman that guys find attractive.

That's it

MR X

John U says:

They take pride in their appearance Mr.X, I'm 100% with you there, and mostly the care and attention they give their hair.

The Thai ladies I've got to know well have their hair done every day, and it sure shows. Absolutely beautiful.

But I think the most impressive is their personal hygeine. I've never yet smelt the slightest hint of any type of body odour on any of the ladies I've been with. They are compulsive showerers as you probably know.

Can you honestly say that about the farang ladies you've known.

I know they're not all bad, but I've felt like telling some of them "Close your legs your fucking breath is smelling".

Billy P. says:

John U dontworry about guys who cant take a bit of piss taking. I read a lot of your stuff, and most of it is real funny. I like yoru SOH. You get a bit serious sometime, but always readable. The one with the Thai girls email was soooo good. Iam still laughing. Keep them coming buddy.

Bill

I-Hia! says:

I'll take a flat-footed, monkey-nippled pickaninny like Tanai Kwai's girl anyday over a nubile, sexy, fun farang chick... NOT! I-Hia!

Cynic says:

I-Hia you poor embittered cunt.

LDMA says:

So, Claire and Mandy, what the fuck gives you the right to call my wife, a local well-respected university academic a whore? Maybe this is why I went off feminazi western slags to start with. My wife has more feminine qualities in her big toe than most 'Lang girls I've been out with, most of who have rejected traditional female qualities, that shock horror, men still seek in their perfect partner, that is domestication, loyalty, and most of all femininity. Sorry, that you don't want that, but frankly I do , I've got what I want from a woman, and she has what she seeks from a man, and if you don't like it you can FOOK RIGHT OFF.
These attitudes smack of unadulterated RACISM and SOUR GRAPES.

Once you go Asian, you never go Caucasian.
I fucked plenty of Lang girls....but there's not a single one of the slags I'd marry.

TANAI KWAI says:

One aspect of *certain* Farang/Thai relationships that drives Farang women nucking futs is teased out in the movie ìUnder Suspicionî (based on the novel ìBrainwashî by ex-Yorkshire cop John Wainright).

Gene Hackman plays prominent lawyer Henry Hearst, who explains his preference for young women to Captain Victor Benezet (Morgan Freeman), effectively telling polite society to go fuck itself:

HEARST: "What can they possibly have in common?î they [Farang women] ask. What do they talk about? See, girls don't talk. They laugh. They make you feel aliveÖ If I want to talk about the S & P 500 I'll call my broker.

I think many Farang women sense that their would-be husbands and boyfriends are out there ìLiving the Dreamî with dusky nymphets with whom they can barely communicate.

And in their desperation these women of America and England and France lash out with ìYou'll be sorry in 30 [or 40 or 50] years when you'll want somebody to talk to and you will have built nothing of your life,î or words to that effect. That is the gravest threat in their arsenal, and many a Farang man has succumbed to it and stayed home.

(Ö)

John U says:

Billy P,

Is that your name? ( the one in the email address) If so I'll take my fucking hat off to you. You must have had a few bumps and bruises.

I thought my name was bad enough, but thank my lucky fucking stars.

(relieved emoticom)

Prorogue says:

I was wondering if the White woman complaining here about Thai whores could give me a little moral guidance. The little bunny currently sleeping in my bed unfortunately complained that I was hurting her while fornicating. 'jeb'...'jeb' she cried just as I was building up my stride.

Just for the record I'm hung like a hamster so I was wondering if I should tell her to sling her hook when she arises requesting payment for services not rendered. Great body though I suppose I should acknowledge that if a white girl had her butt and skin I'd pay 10 quid just for a stroke and a feel. But that wasn't the initial unspoken deal.

So come on girls. Shall I throw her out on her ear or slip her 500 for doing nothing? Answers to the e mail below. Call it online real time feminist democracy. Bring it on for your Sistas.

I'll check my mail when she gets up!

usvirgin says:

Fortunately, for farang women, they are still preferred, by some, in their home countries, should they repatriate. For example, on the subject of lithe, Thai women, a gentleman from West Texas told me the other day, "Ain't nothin' but a dog like a bone, and HE BURIES it!"

Prorogue: I'd likely give her 500 for taxi money and triple that for damages but, wanting to know who is held in higher contempt (the farang man or the Thai service 'provider'), I'd be interested to see the results of your survey! :)

Anir says:

lets have a decent date..write to me the farang ladies: tcy78337@yahoo.com..I am sick of Thai ladies..and their materialistic views and money sucking attitude...
heh someone romantic out there with some substance??

The General says:

I think you've got more chance of pulling a muscle than you have pulling a farang woman on here.

Dark says:

Dear Mandy,

What ever happened to Female solidarity or is that used only when convienient?
I swear the worse shit about Women come from Women!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
They are nothing but whores! I don't understand why western guys find all Thai girls attractive. Most of them are ugly as fuck and they look more like men. Don't forget that they always give you something to remind you of them -- STDs! - Mandy.

dvarpala says:

Better to die happy, than live to a ripe old age , if it has to be spent with a miserable farang scrunter like you - feck off.

The Siamese Chick says:

wow..
some people hah? :-)

JR says:

I beg you to differentiate between thai hookers and farang hookers, not thai hookers and farang ladies, if indeed you still see a division on that side :)

Word of warning....just like any woman, Thai women can be very ahem bitchy if you stay with them long enough.... especially any who have some chinese blood in em :P

E says:

Farang women aren't money grubbers? Where the hell do you guys live? American women are much more money hungry than Thais.

Lets compare...Thai girl, let her run around the supermarket buying food. Happy.

Farang girl, let her run around the mall buying $300 purses and $200 shoes. Take her to a $50 a person trendy restraunt with crappy food. Happy.

Which bill would you rather get?

Raz says:

I do like these Farang birds that give it all the "you can't get a decent girlfriend" type thing .. ironically, these farang chip-on-the-shoulder merchants are the easiest lay ever - especially in Thailand !

YABS says:

An observation here.
I remember when i was about 12 or 13 back in the mid eighties in england The girls would come to me. They would go to the boys at discos. The boys at this age were very shy but the girls would take us
under our wing. i never had to summon the courage
up to talk to them as they did all the work. Then
in the nineties it all changed. Girls no longer did the work. You had to do the work.
What happened? Was it an age thing or was it about this time that falang women changed?
Theres no room for wekness with these
falang women now. they are all as hard as nails
or 80 percent anyway.
Thai women take care of their men.
You can relax with them, something you can never do with a falang girl. They don't have to eb entertained 24/7. there is not pressure to discuss
bullshit 24/7. Those awkward silences that you sometimes get are no lonegr awkward and its a two way thing. THEY contribute
Thai girls should start running soem classes on
how to treat men.
take note falngs your days are numbered.
shape up or ship out!

dee says:

I think most men, not just farangs, will agree:
Western girls (american and british in particular, french and italian less so)
1. are full of herself
2. are always bitching
3. cheat
4. do not age well (turn fat and ugly after 25)
5. all of the above

Meanwhile, asian girls(thai and japanese in particular, chinese and korean less so)
1. are truely feminine
2. are loyal, considerate and supportive
3. look much younger for their age
4. make men feel appreciated
5. never complain

There is simply no comparison. No wonder a lot of guys turn gay after marrying western women.

Check Six says:

I live in a poor fascist country south of Canada and north of Mexico. We have a dictatorship where our imperial court selects our leader. All of the women here are very large carbohydrate gorgers and whine and moan constantly from inside the folds of their speckled fat. Many are incapable of vaginal sex because their thighs can't spread wide enough (owing to large rolls of thigh fat) for a man to gain admission. Anal sex is out of the question as the distance from their cheeks to their anus is often a foot or more, and most of our fellows are not endowed in excess of a foot.

These women are competed for heavily, and dole out the favor of their attention to the men who are the most virile and will accept the most whining. Marriage entails servitude for life, bringing offerings of fatty foods and apologies to these large pasty queens.

Can you find it in your heart to help? Just $1500 per month will allow you to sponsor one of our poor men for a month in wanton luxury in Thailand. These men need your help. Their eyes cry out to you for assistance. Please help.

Dana says:

All of these monsters in the shopping malls here in the States have boyfriends and/or are married.
Men compete for them. They have sex lives. They get more attention and self-fulfillment than most men. They are the winners, not the men. Maybe instead of carping about these unappealing females men should examine their own behavior. What the fuck are men doing copulating with these beasts? What is wrong with men? It is beyond my wildest imagining that I would spend my time saying "Yes honey" and "Yes dear" to these fat slobs. But if I was in the way I would get trampled by men stampeding to these women. What is wrong with men?

Sandy says:

^ Err, no choices?

Sandy

cauc.chic says:

I'm a caucasian girl dating a thai guy. Sometimes when we're out together I'll see a cute thai girl walk by and I'll say to my guy "Hey look - she's cute" but he always replies "No way! She's ugly - You farangs have got the worst taste in Thai women!"

Heather says:

I'm 21. I go to university full time, and work full time. I drive a nice car (that I bought myself), live in a nice apartment (that I'm paying for myself) and can count the number of times I've ever expected a man to buy me dinner. It adds up to zero. I currently have a (farang) boyfriend, and I pay for as much-- if not more-- than he does in terms of our living expenses. I never goad him; I am not a "feminazi" who insults him, makes him feel worthless, and I never expect him to be "subservient".

I never leave the house without my hair done or my makeup on, nor am I ever dressed less than impeccably. I'm thin. Obviously, not Thai-girl thin, because I have breasts and an ass, but I still only weigh a little over a hundred pounds. I work out five days a week, and have modeled for local publications-- never anything too serious, because I'm only 5'4.

I've spent the last six months in Thailand. Just came home two months ago. Frankly, I never had a problem getting attention from males-- farang or Thai. Yes, there were some guys who ignored me for Thai women. Some of them just simply have a preference for Thai girls, as I generally have a preference for caucasian men (though I'm open to exception). Some, on the other hand, were undeniably too lazy to approach a girl like me.

Most of the guys who bitch about there being too many "fat American bitchy women" are just plain and simple too lazy and ugly to persue girls like us (oh, and I'm Canadian by the way, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about). I'm not going to lie-- there are money grubbing hags who try and push guys around. Lots of them. But for every one of those girls, there are many, many open minded, respectful, laid back and attractive white girls, too. You saying that all of these Brit/American/French/Canadian(?) girls are like that is exactly like us saying that "all Thai women are whores after your money" or "all farang guys who date Thai women are ugly pedophiles who just want a cheap subservient whore". None of the above statements are true, and I think that even the most devoted.. er, "connoisseurs" of Thai girls will agree with me there.

I don't think that all men are after Thai women because they are too unattractive/poor/lazy to get women in their own country, but there are a certain quantity of them. Probably as many as there are overweight, demanding, indignant farang girls. And as many as there are Thai hookers who only want the money of a farang guy.

The bottom line is, if you class everyone into catergories, you're missing out. If you assume that all farang women are disgusting gold digging slobs, you'll miss out on some of the best women in the world. If you assume that all Thai women are gold digging STD-ridden whores, likewise. You'll miss out on plenty of beautiful, intelligent and agreeable girls, too. I don't think that any farang girls who post here have a problem with guys who truly enjoy Thai women for who they are-- they just have a problem with men who take advantage of certain Thai women, because certain farang girls who are comparably attractive might require a slight degree of work to attain, and in fact, might be "out of their league". If you like the Thai culture and lifestyle, of COURSE you'd want to date a Thai woman, because she will share your opinions. But if you're just looking to take advantage of a Thai girl's poverty because you don't have the A) balls to talk to a pretty farang girl or the B) commitment to maybe put a little time and effort into YOUR appearance so that a farang girl might like you and you have to resort to abusing your wealth... Well, then you are a thousand times worse than the gold digging, money hungry, unnattractive and mean-spirited farang girls you are so quick to belittle. Seriously, you guys keep whining about white girls who don't put effort into their appearance. Every one of you who mentioned that-- when was the last time YOU hit the gym, got a hair cut, or wore a nice suit?

Seriously, people. Don't be so quick to label. Like what you like, that's great. Just don't assume that every one of us farang girls is the devil, and maybe, they'll stop giving you and your Thai girlfriend funny looks on Samui.

Dana says:

". . . to pursue girls like us."--Honey, I stopped pursuing girls 10 years ago. Now I just buy'em.

TANAI KWAI says:

Hi Heather.

"I don't think that any farang girls who post here have a problem with guys who truly enjoy Thai women for who they are-- they just have a problem with men who take advantage of certain Thai women"

You sound as though you must be gorgeous and quite a catch. That you do not judge a man by his money (since you evidently have your own) is also a nice posture from which to assess possible mates. You do, however, strike me as someone who would be as hard on farang men for their lack of fitness or as many posters here are on farang women.

You make the fine point that many men who date women could not hope to attract a farang girl as attractive as their Thai girlfriends. I think you would agree, however, that in the West, the only barrier to finding an inordinately more attractive girlfriend is money. The same is true in Thailand, only it generally takes less money. But it's basically the same principle. And so I am not sure if there is actually that much difference between being "taken advantage of" by a rich man in the West as opposed to in the East.

"...certain farang girls who are comparably attractive might require a slight degree of work to attain, and in fact, might be 'out of their league'."

Ah yes, "work." Again, I think you would agree that with Trump-like resources the workload suddenly lightens considerably in the West. The other thing to realize is that a Thai woman would be somewhat less likely to vent at length about the hipocrisy of Farang men. They know that such observations tend to annoy their men, and, all things considered, probably would not improve their relationships. If they wanted their man, for example, to lose weight or get hair transplants, they might find some means to achieve the appropriate beguilement with great care to avoid wounding his pride.

Needless to say, there is nothing wrong with a woman who has the carefully considered views you hold. I find you impressively incisive. But there is a certain je ne sais quoi that Western women (not even the French ones) may not always have as part of their arsenal of charms... a certain manner that tends to pump up their man rather than to belittle him. It is a sense of grace that should definitely not be mistaken for subservience.

For my part, I love all kinds of women, and I work extremely hard to remain fit and as attractive as my modest gifts permit. If I met you, rest assured I would do my best to attract you. But likely not being nearly so handsome as your boyfriend, I suppose I would fail.

(thanks for posting)

Dana says:

TK when you roll over on your back and she tickles you does one of your legs jerk spasmodically?

TANAI KWAI says:

That is not the particular spasm I would be anticipating, no.

(...)

Mr. White says:

“I'm a caucasian girl dating a thai guy. Sometimes when we're out together I'll see a cute thai girl walk by and I'll say to my guy "Hey look - she's cute" but he always replies "No way! She's ugly - You farangs have got the worst taste in Thai women!"
Posted by cauc.chic”

I think this must have something to do with nature balancing everything out in the universe. It's nature's way of ensuring that everyone is attractive to at least somebody.
Living in Japan I've noticed a few things on the dating scene. A lot of the girls that foreign guys date are pretty hot in my (and I assume the foreigner's) eyes. However these girls seem to be unattractive to Japanese guys. At the same time, “ordinary” is the only word that comes to mind to describe a lot of the girls that the Japanese guys date. Most of the Japanese girls I have seen with black guys here are some of the roughest unattractive Japanese girls (quite thin on the ground here incidentally) I have seen.

I think it works out nicely. The girls that do not fit the traditional definition of beauty in their native culture seem to be attractive to some people who are not indigenous to the culture. Something for everybody.

Heather says:

Tanai Kawai,

It's unfortunate that I strike you "someone who would be as hard on farang men for their lack of fitness ". I definately understand how my post came across that way, though mainly that was in retaliation to the obscene number of men who hostily attacked farang girls for their supposed obesity and ugliness, in both this post, and one that referred me to it.

In truth, physically, my boyfriend would be unlikely to stand out in a crowd. What did stand out to me, however, was his compassion and selflessness. I met him at an AIDS benefit. While I was travelling Thailand, indulging in an array of pleasures, he was working for Canada World Youth, teaching English in India, as well as giving seminars on HIV prevention. To me, it is his heart of gold that makes him immensely attractive. I hope that I would never belittle him in anyway, or make him unsure of himself as a person.

In terms of "working" for a woman's affections, I prefer an open conversation to being showered with gifts. By the men who I referred to as being perhaps too lazy to attain an attractive western girl, I mean that they would rather spend a couple hundred baht on a dinner and a glass of wine for a woman than they would spend five minutes in an intelligent conversation with her. Again, I am not implying that all men merely want stereotypical "arm candy" as opposed to an intensely satisfying relationship. There are, of course, many men who are looking for a charming and entertaining partner instead of a trophy-- and many woman who prefer a smile and a little affection to a bank account.

I completely understand, however, your beliefs about western women. Based on the actions of many of my friends and coworkers, I am not remotely surprised that many farang men seek Thailand and the Thai culture as an alternative to western life and relationships. For every bulletain board showcasing a scantily clad, airbrushed supermodel with flat abs-- exactly what your avgerage western woman attributes to horrendous societal pressures to be or appear a certain way-- there are thousands of women belittling and degrading men in a much worse fashion.

You're right; to some degree, money always plays a factor. In fact, I myself-- though I'd never expect a partner to provide for me-- tend to date people in a comparable income bracket. Whether it be the fact that this is merely who I most frequently "rub shoulders with" in life, or the fact that while I never expect to be provided for, I generally prefer not to have to provide for someone else, either-- I don't know. In our western culture, I do believe that there is a degree of women taking advantage of rich men. Maybe it's just the fact that the cost of living is so comparably low, but in Thailand, I often felt that it was the rich men taking advantage of poor Thai women. Perhaps I'm wrong. Perhaps, the only difference between those two situations in a difference in perception.

Anyways, thanks for your thoughtful response... Based on the previous debates, I was rather expected to be ripped to shreads, ha ha.

That was my first visit to this website, but be forwarned-- I'll definately be back, and armed with debates ;)

Check Six says:

"I myself [...] tend to date people in a comparable income bracket" (Heather)

It's my experience that farang chicks tend to always look for guys who make as much as or more than them, and farang guys tend to not usually have a problem with chicks who make less than them - maybe the "provider" instinct or something.

Outside of submissives and the d/s world, it's hard to find respectful farang women who desire "traditional" (i.e., me Tarzan, you Jane) relationships, at least here in the fascist country I live in. There are a few here and there, though. Not usually hotties, true, but you're only a hottie for a while, and it is the right attitude that carries you the distance.

Jay Dee says:

Heather, do you agree this opinion (already posted by Dee) :
ìMeanwhile, Asian girls (Thai and Japanese in particular) :
1. are truly feminine
2. are loyal, considerate and supportive
3. look much younger for their age
4. make men feel appreciated
5. never complainî
OK, with certainly some exceptions to this ruleÖ A farang girl can be such a girl 1 - 2 - 3- 4 - 5Ö one can always find ONE diamond, within tons of roughÖ!
However, average ratio Quality / Price favours Thai (and Japanese) girls.
This is the main reason why we prefer to be here and not come back homeÖ
Jay Dee

Pat Paulsen says:

"...but you're only a hottie for a while, and it is the right attitude that carries you the distance." Soooo true Check Six!

If only western sisters could truly managed their expectations with aging gracefully, instead of flaming their loved ones when "beauty" turns to "wisdom." The one who turns the TV off now and then, who keeps her expectations balanced within the real (working)world, disengages from the "horrendous societal pressure," who foots the bill every so often, looks past gender politics, and manages a certain grace, will be a renaissance (woman).

Asked by a publishers secretary how he creates his female characters, Melvin Udall said "I think of a man, then I take away reasoning and accountability." How telling. Wish it weren't true. But after twenty-five years of dating I had to laugh emphatically at that silver pearl, while my girlfriend looked on quietly.

Pat

cauc.chic says:

I'm facing a dilemma. My thai boyfriend earns considerably less money than me, and well, I have always been like Heather, dating guys in a comparable income bracket (they weren't on thai salaries). The simple fact that I earn more doesn't bother me (nor him). And to be clear, I don't support him financially. However, as things get more serious (and as I get older), I'm starting to desire rather 'traditional' (embarrassing to admit) things - like if I have a baby, I want to stop working and stay home and be supported. However, because I'm very comfortable with my current wealth/lifestyle, I'm anxious. What should I do?

Check Six says:

"However, because I'm very comfortable with my current wealth/lifestyle, I'm anxious. What should I do?" (Cauc.Chic)

This is somewhat off-topic, but have you had him checked out? Is he truly monogamous? Does that matter to you? I'd hate to see you get the fleece'em treatment that Farang guys have gotten from certain Thai women.

That said, you have to follow your head and your heart, both, to protect yourself. Then again, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Still, "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" sounds like famous last words. Hmmm...

Don't know what to tell you - your heart is involved and that muddies the logical waters thoroughly, as it would for anybody.

Jay Dee says:

Cauc.Chic,the best way is to continue working... however teach your Thai BF how to take care your baby, and your home...
Farangs always support Thai financially, this independently of gender.
Possibly he will get some girl-friends while you win family money... your baby could have big family, including several aunts!
Good luck.
Jay Dee

Check Six says:

"while my girlfriend looked on quietly" (Pat Paulson)

Hehehehehe.... ominous.

I used to have a problem with a previous FGF where she would, roughly every 3 weeks, decide to have an anxiety-filled meltdown that would begin with the phrase "Do you love me?" or "I just don't know how I feel about everything". Sometimes she wouldn't say anything at all. I'd come home and she'd be sitting on the couch, looking at me with wounded accusing eyes (I hadn't done ANYTHING), and that would start the episode. The episode would last 1 to 3 days and would eventually culminate in her crying like a baby, eating a pint of ice cream and pressuring me for sexual attention.

You know what I did? I wrote a genetic algorithm to determine when she was going to do it next. You laugh, but I identified the metrics that seemed to determine the episodes and let it "train" with some recent history. By the end of the first year, it did an incredibly accurate job of forecasting the next outburst, and I was able to "business trip" my way the hell out of there at each impending critical juncture, saving myself much agony. By the time we split up, she had associated her depression episodes with me leaving town for a bit, but her correlation was not that I was tracking her but that I was so critical to her happiness that my absence brought about her mental crises.

So I'm a nerd, sue me. You give me a nearly insurmountable problem and I'm going to use the tools at my disposal to try to solve it.

Korntails. says:

Simply put...Great, fat, big mouth, white women are not even on the menu for me anymore. And when they see me walk into a restaurant or mall with any number of assorted little hotties i always get the stink eye. And I love it.

White bitches, you did it to yourself. Shut the fuck up, calm down, grow a fucking spine and perhaps I will let you suck the dribble off my cock after ive unloaded it into some hot little latina or asian princess.

Until then, get the fuck over yourself. You aint all that!

cauc.chic says:

What the fuck are corntails? And i'm certainly not a fantail of that kind of language.

cauc.chic says:

Check Six & Jay Dee - thanks for your replies. Actually I trust him completely so I'm not worried. I think that we'll probably get a modelling career going for the baby (it will be a gorgeous eurasian) so it can support us both. How do you guys feel about eurasian women? I haven't seen any comments on them - if you had the choice of a nice thai girl vs a nice eurasian girl, which would you pick and why?

Pat Paulsen says:

"I was so critical to her happiness that my absence brought about her mental crises."(Check Six)

Ever gone without real sex from a real relationship for an extended period of time? Me too. Then the moment you start getting some you want it more on a regular basis. I used to be like that; realizing what I was missing, being "in-the-game." Most women depend on a guy to behave aggressively, or play the fool; saves them the indignity of trying themselves, possibly getting rejected. Somehow it's okay for guys to get rejected on a regular basis, but women...no way. And we're still equal by the way.
Well, if you crack the glass face of a western woman, and make her smile, watch out! You're now also responsible for saving her from many of her own future emotions, keeping her happiness intact. She's already decided this, you just have to show up. It's the old "I was fine, but I forgot how much fun I was missing until you came along .... you're my personal toy now(read:beast of burden), don't think of leaving or you're really in deep shit" situation. Feast and famine. Not much of a middle ground is there, and that has always been what scares me the most. They either want the world, or only to learn the score of a Red Sox game...scary!
Actually, what scares me most is it doesn't happen anymore.

Pat

Pat Paulsen says:

A friend of mine lives in New York, has two young daughters, and a lovely(working) wife. Of course they need an "Au Pair." Several years ago I showed up not knowing a thing, and they put me on the 1st floor studio with large rolls of brown paper, a futon, cavanses stacked against the wall. Their living area was the next floor up, so after unpacking, and making some room for my stuff I wandered up stairs only to meet the most stunning Asian au pair of about twenty-five(she looked much, much younger). After several days we were talking, her English was perfect, and I found out she'd been abandoned on the steps of a church in Seoul, Korea in a snow storm(guess maybe her biological mother was a prostitute), four months later adopted by a young Swedish couple. She was raised in Ostersunde, Sweden.
Yes, Eurasian women are very, very beautifull, but...if I could have it my way they would be Asian on the outside, Scandinavian on the inside. Talk about best of both worlds: those silky Asian features, the eyes, long dark hair, beautifull skin contrasting with an educated, no nonsense open-minded-attitude-towards-sex Swedish/Scandinavian mind set on the inside. If you're caught between "Ying" and "Yang" like me, can there possibly be anything better?

Pat

Sandy says:

"Actually, what scares me most is it doesn't happen anymore."(Pat Paulsen)

Is that because you're drifting over the hill Pat?

Sandy

Greg says:

"They either want the world, or only to learn the score of a Red Sox game...scary! "

Well said.

Another well said phrase I've recently learned: "No."

Jay Dee says:

Cauc. Chic : "if you had the choice of a nice thai girl vs a nice eurasian girl, which would you pick and why?"
I have now that choice : my GF Sheena is fifty US and fifty Thai. Very beautiful. More clever for sure. In bed I prefer 2nd GF Tey-Ya, 100% Thai.
So I prefer to "show" the first one, but I prefer to f... the second one. If you want to compare, give me your E-Mail, I'll send you pics of both...for private use only.
Jay Dee

cauc.chic says:

oh that's ok - i don't want to risk contracting any viruses...

...but I'm curious - what does Tey-Ya do To-Ya?

TINGTAWNG says:

Heather, oh Heather.

Why do we like Asian women?

Well I like them for their looks, very much including their naturally slim body (there's just something about the legs, you know....gravity defying).

OK, now I move onto charm....my God, they have it in spades. It's very much, as TK says, a je ne sais quoi....but the charm is very strong.

Then there is the DNA thing...what they have that farang women do NOT have is a unique DNA fingerprint to farang blood. I like to spread my genes far and wide. If alien women came down to earth, I'd be the first in line with my unruly member pointing the way to them.

E says:

Heather,

Thai guys like tall, anorexic thin, very white skin, big pointy nose, thin lips, no butt and long face.

Farangs like some curves, full lips, and smaller nose. Hence, farangs like Isan girls and Thais do not. Don't believe me, look at the idealized beauties on Thai TV.

If you are being straight about yourself, you are rare in farangland. Girls like you have three potential new boyfriends picked out before even dumping your current partner.

I grew up in America with the two worst qualities a man can have in trying to attract a girlfriend (poor and shy). I would be considered better than average looking, 6' tall, athletic build, and top 1% in school with a masters degree. Yet, I had trouble attracting women of my equal. Why? Money, money, money. Most women of my peer group grew up comfortable middle class or better and expect boyfriends to provide a certain standard of material comfort.

For example, I dated one girl whose parents were literally multi-millionaires. Four or five million dollar homes, dozen cars, first class airline seats, five star hotels, etc. Did she offer to pay for trips or activities far outside my financial means which she was used to doing? Hell no! A man dating a woman of less financial means would pick up the bill for trips and activities without even thinking about it. I ended up dumping her in part because of the constant pressure to live in a lifestyle her father provided for her and was far beyond my finances.

Rock Doctor says:

I've seen a few amusing incidents in Thailand and in other countries where the women are nicer looking than US/UK. Farang couples where the bloke is looking like he wants to slit his wrists because he's thinking: "What am I doing with this minger when there's all this quality gash around?"

The saddest I saw was a couple who were both fat and ugly and from middle class England - both happy to be with each other - and sitting in an open air restaurant surrounded by Venezuelan beauties: all of whom were on the game. Anyway, the uglies were playing travel scrabble. Made me proud to be British.

chris says:

I've been approached by lots of farang girls when I'm out clubbing in Thailand, asking me why i hang with "those kinds of girls" when there are plenty of white girls showing interest.

Well girl, maybe because I'm fed up with stuck up european bitches. Id rather barfine a 35year old pattaya pro than date another obnoxious farang.

Besides its a religious experiance to turn down free sex from some drunk English girl and grab a bargirl instead.

daniel says:

well i have to say once you meet these lovely asian women and begin to have relationships with them {not bar-girls, freelancers etc} you never go back.

i havent yet anyway, sure there are some obnoxious farang and asian girls but it seems that asian girls seem to be more relaxing to be with, some farang girls just make me feel uncomfortable and this is because..

MANY FARANG WOMEN TEND TO LOOK DOWN THIER NOSES EVEN WHEN THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOOK DOWN ABOUT.

heather you write a very good debate, why can't farang women be a little more like yourself, unfortuantly these bad experiences with farang women seem to causing major problems for many farang men.

i.e i came to thailand after watching the movie 'the beach' it seemed so exciting, as opposed to europe, spain etc, however, the longer i stayed here i more relaxed i felt. i have never been to asia before... but as soon as i returned home i started to make plans to return back to thailand and then to china and to japan.

i can honestly say without a shadow of a doubt that it has been the best experience of my life.

it also raises a negative question
" can i go back to what i lived with before " ie ignorant, obnoxious women with no feelings except for themselves.

i will let you know when i return, which i dont think will be anytime soon.

you seem like a good person and i know that there are some nice farang women in the uk, its just that the majority make so hard for the rest.

hate westhern says:

Let see you want another bomb in usa. or united kingdom? by saying like these,while know nothing about thailand.
but soon all of you will see it.
all of you brought all those dirty things to my country? we never wanted you to come to our country.