Prime Minister Tony Blair gets Mangoed

Mr White says:

I'd gladly register. Just make sure you get rid of that BlackJack clown. That fool cost me a lot of money.

Get a life says:

"NJW/GET A LIFE

With its traffic currently falling, perhaps you should to be concentrating on improving your own website rather than making trouble on mine.

Posted by David | August 20, 2004 04:53 PM"

So, you assume I'm Tony Blair!!!!!??????555555555

David says:

GAL - Don't flatter yourself.

TONY BLAIR says:

Hi David,

Thank you for bringing to my attention the popularity of "www.number-10.gov.uk" vis-a-vis your own site "Mango Sauce". My authorities have informed me that you are quite wrong. Indeed, I submit to you the following evidence:-

Mango Sauce:- http://ranking.websearch.com/SiteInfo.aspx?url=www.mangosauce.com

(ranked 243,925)

number-10.gov.uk:-
http://ranking.websearch.com/SiteInfo.aspx?url=www.number-10.gov.uk

(ranked 85,874)

Kind Regards,

T. Blair.

(p.s. Gordon Brown told me to tell you to get your shit correct)

mr peter says:

I'm a bit suspicious about thai-uk.com having higher figures than mangosauce, it might be a fiddle. Maybe paul steele is signing on and off his site a few hundred times a day to up the numbers? Nanaplaza and stickman must easily get more visits than the the, look we married a thai girl club, can the numbers be fixed?-peter

Combover says:

Hmm - and Dirty Nigel is around the 5000 mark and Hairy Eddie at 10000.

David says:

Tony Blair/GET A LIFE/NJW

Stop making a fool of yourself.

Few people have heard of the "Web Search toolbar" let alone downloaded it so the sample size is too small to analyse. The figures are wrong.

Comparing "Web Search" to Alexa is like comparing a grain of sand to a continent.

With your own web traffic on the slide, I understand how bitter you must feel but I'd have a lot more respect for you if you didn't let it show.

Tracey Emin says:

(real) david -

dont let the trolls get ya down. the anti-mangosauce presence here is tiresome, but easily ignored.

your site pisses all over the *other site*, by the way.

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TANAI KWAI says:

Would someone please provide the name of NJW/GAL's website so I can see what all the shouting is about?

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David says:

Thanks, Tracey Emin

Incidentally, regular contributors can obtain a TypeKey identity prior to the introduction of comment registration.

The link to TypeKey is just underneath the "Post a comment" heading.

When you get there, just choose a user name and password and then reply to the confirmation email.

The TypeKey system preserves your anonymity. I have no access to it.

David says:

TK

GAL/NJW supposedly has some connection with www.thailand-uk.com - the people who allegedly shopped Mr Peter to his employer for browsing their website during office hours.

I don't know for certain whether GAL/NJW was involved (he refuses to confirm or deny it) but he certainly sounds vindictive enough.

Greg says:

Slan.

Anyone imagine it a serious possibility?

Some new group of people much smarter than I will certainly arrive, barring likely catastrophic global interventions.

Class war therefore does seem to be a possibility. Culture wars are our history, for longer than we've had one.

I'm saying this because death threats are common on this forum, and some posters here are extremely stupid, some mediocre, and others seem more capable. The dumb tend to focus their attacks on the smart.

Greg says:

I know that a few posts last night were sprouted beans from mutant pebbles. Thoughts didn't fit in and add up properly. Nonsense.

It wasn't my intention to get metaphysical. I was trying to share experience, open to verification.

tonychang says:

"The dumb tend to focus their attacks on the smart."
Looks like you got me sussed....

you twat.
cheers
tc

R@gtopmuse says:

David

It ain't bragging if its the truth. However you got it wrong again. Tony has a reach rank of 20, yours is 12, sticks is 16. This means if a randam sample of all internet users was taken 20 out of 1 million visit Mr. Blair, 12 out of that same million visit MangoSauce.com. Tony's page views per user is a modest 2.1. Mangosauce is a ridiculous 50 plus per user at times and therein lies the difference. Alexa rankings are a clever marketing device for Alexa. Reach rank is where it is at, in my opinion.

The question I have is who would you rather invite over to your house for supper, the Tony Blair reader or the MangoSauce reader? Register away, I'm all for it, but be prepared to watch your rankings fall further as the obsessive compulsives are weeded out.

Tea anyone?

David says:

R@gtopmuse

I haven't got it wrong and you are misrepresenting the data to suit your own purposes (I don't know what your angle is but I can guess).

You keep banging on about the value of "reach" - which is a rough and dirty indication of visitor numbers. In fact, reach is just one part of the equation. In the case of Mango Sauce, it's also rather inaccurate and I'll explain why in a moment.

Why do you dismiss "page views per visitor" as unimportant?

If people come to your site, look at just one page and then bugger off, it's nothing to boast about.

Alexa reveals that the average Mango Sauce visitor spends quite a long time navigating through the site.

Why does this irk you so much?

Incidentally, the Alexa Mango Sauce stats under-represent reach and over-represent page views.

Most web traffic originating in Thailand is funnelled through just half a dozen IP addresses. My guess is that Alexa misinterprets this traffic as being just half a dozen visitors viewing thousands of pages.

The distortion is, of course, cancelled out when the reach and page views figures are amalgamated into a traffic rank.

According to Alexa, traffic rank is irrefutably the best measure of a website's popularity and that's why I quoted it.

You're clutching at straws, R@gtopmuse, and you know it.

Are you a mate of Stickman's?

R@gtopmuse says:

Opposing opinions are welcome here right?

Lets say you have two libraries.

Library A gets 1,000 visitors a month who enter once a week. 4,300 entries a month.

Library B gets 500 visitors a month. They come every day. 15,000 entries a month.

You are library B. Congratulations.

The question is which library serves the community best?

And there is no dispute that Libary A gets a higher percentage of the population to visit. Just as Tony Blair gets more internet users to visit his site than you. That's the facts Jack.

I ain't grasping at anything. Just presenting a more accurate portrayal of the facts. Stick? I could care less about. I have never met him.

GET A LIFE says:

"GAL/NJW supposedly has some connection with www.thailand-uk.com - the people who allegedly shopped Mr Peter to his employer for browsing their website during office hours.

I don't know for certain whether GAL/NJW was involved (he refuses to confirm or deny it) but he certainly sounds vindictive enough.

Posted by David | August 24, 2004 10:44 PM"

Can't speak for all the other people you think I am, but I gave my reasons for not answering your question before, but as you insist; I deny it (not that you'll believe me).

Lies, damned lies and statistics. You can twist any set of figures to suit your own purpose. But isn't it a bit childish of you to be playing this pathetic game of "My site gets more hits than your site!"

What next? My dad can beat up your dad?

(Still don't get it do you? Ignore me and I'll go away. I've given you enough hints. God you must be thick, thick enough to be a Gooner!)

David says:

R@gtopmuse

I welcome opposing opinions.

Mango Sauce can, indeed, be compared to Library B. It's a new library which has relatively few members but its books are proving popular.

Library A, on the other hand, has been around for years - a bit like your mate Stickman.

It has far more members but its books are old and dusty. It gets busy on a Sunday - but only if it's raining.

Sadly, most members of Library A don't even know that Library B exists. The head librarian keeps them in the dark.

They'll find it eventually, though.

David says:

GET A LIFE

You said this

"(Still don't get it do you? Ignore me and I'll go away. I've given you enough hints. God you must be thick, thick enough to be a Gooner!)"

I've no idea what a "Gooner" is but I'd like to take you up on your offer.

I'll ignore you.

You go away.

mr peter says:

'(Still don't get it do you? Ignore me and I'll go away. I've given you enough hints. God you must be thick, thick enough to be a Gooner!)
Posted by GET A LIFE'

Now we have it in writing (again) can everyone please ignore him as requested. Of course he will only start posting again under yet another daft name, but it keeps him from getting arrested-peter

Meister says:

A 'Gooner' is a supporter of Arsenal FC. Be careful when using it around people of African descent. A friend used it around some Jamacian guys once. Took a few minutes to convince them he was talking about football!

Thierry Henry says:

GAL/NJW/Bend over it's time for your shafting

You must be another twat from Queen City.
Plenty of ladyboys up there.
Pack of red rimmed arseholes.

Tf says:

Thanks for helping Tony, unfortunately the whole thing was a bad idea with no benefits whatsoever. Sorry all you dead soldiers.This person will vote for the first time,against Bush

Dana says:

Attn: David

Registration will be my deathknell. But at least unlike Trink I will know when it is time to retire.

Bento Box says:

That's ok Dana, we'll just paste in your Stickman postings here for you, shall we?

Sandy says:

I thought Trink GOT retired by the Bangkok Post?
Is he still writing somewhere can anybody tell me?

Sandy

TING TAWNG says:

David : "Most web traffic originating in Thailand is funnelled through just half a dozen IP addresses."

Huh? You're kidding, right?

I have my own exclusive IP address. Am I special or something?

[I'm not kidding and we're all special - David]

OXO says:

Hi Sandy
If you feel it is worth the money Trink's site is.. idontgiveahoot.com You get to look at a sample issue before subscribing. Also if you have an interested in Trink, Stick has done a lengthy interview with him over 2 weeks
I am a little bemused by the backlash David is encountering by having a successful siteóand by anyone's measure for the time it has been running it is a successful site, -- especially when you take into account his target audience, against other sites being quoted. 99% male. 99% interested in Asian women. 95% People who want to relocate to an Asian country for the rest of their lives. ###
I don't see this vilification on Sticks, BKK Phil, Thai Tips or any Delphi forums, maybe that is because the freedoms he is allocating to his siteówhich everyone excepts, as a right, or he would be just a money making fascistóare not given on any of these sites. I have seen some latitude here that would get you kicked on ìBKK Chatî. I think the hit times are also relevant, Sticks at this point in time does not hold the same interest for me as mango, but I still visit it weeklyóits freeóI still pick up the free paper at my health club & glance through it. Sticks e-mails gave me a lot of help when I first decide to relocate here some years backóhe seems to take the time to answer all inquiries-- & I would recommend anyone else thinking of making the move read his living in Thailand sections. Now he has a wifeóI don'tóNow he visits the clubs with her, & she answers questions on his site, so maybe he is reaching for a whole new audience.
David your site has done well & it is amusing, the one thing it does lack however is a bar/club/ review; at least as a weekly feature. This is what made Trink, This is what got Stick of the ground, & I think, that is what most people knowing (or wanting to know) BKK relate to. -Where's the best priceówhere's the best girls etc. you wont be short of feedback, I assure you.
OXO
##(--Disclaimer--Figures completely guest work by me, and are based on absolutely no research at all, and should not be quoted by anyone not wanting to be flamed.)

PS David, don't be late home for dinner, I have done your favoriteÖ. is that OK hon.Ö

Sandy says:

Thanks Oxo,

Excellent.

Sandy

David says:

OXO

You mentioned that Mango Sauce lacked a bar/club review.

Rather than being an oversight, this is intentional. There are loads of other websites that cover this ground - Stickman, for example.

Mango Sauce has often been compared with Stickman but, despite dealing with similar subject matter, our approaches are actually completely different.

In my view, the two websites are complimentary - but, unfortunately, Stickman doesn't see it that way. He's banned any mention of Mango Sauce on his website.

http://www.mangosauce.com/archives/000265.html

That's why I take the piss out of him sometimes.

PS. Thanks for cooking my favourite. It was delicious.

Gurst says:

David, can you block "Blackjack" from posting? It's losers like him that are ruining this blog. Maybe charge him for his advertisements? A flat rate for his blackjack banner? Whomever you are, you're targeting the wrong people. We are not here to play casino games. Go away.