Mango Sauce

barry says:

Only just discovered your website,i find it a really good read.Since my 27 year old ex go go dancer girlfriend just pissed off to America with a 53 year old US Navy officer to get married and live in the States and in the process rip me off to the tune of several thousand pounds i have found it a real help to know i`m am not the only gullible prick around.I do hope Mango Sauce will live again soon.

kwai mai sabai says:

In these climes it's probably best that you get a real job. I only came on board 5 months ago but I've never laughed harder in my life than at some of the goings on here. Will miss the sauce!
Chok dee khrup

DaveB says:

I'm fooking choked as this is one of the best sites on the web. I'm gonna put a curse on Google, everything seems to be spiraling downward.

Many thanx for you great comment & effort over the years, wishing you all the best.

DaveB

broadbandbully says:

The end of "Mangosauce"

Reason No. 1417 why Thailand is really going down the pan! FAST!!!!!

C'mon David, surely there's room for a compilation Post, or a "Top 10" Posts and one last "lets rip it out of a Farang woman" One last time.

My favourite post has to be "Farang Pervert stalks Thai Girls on Bangkokchat" HAARRRR!

nongfar says:

I must say that I've been checking the site daily and wrongly assumed that you were afraid of more sinister consequences. We all know that the Junta have no time for freedom of speech! I wish you all the best with your new career but sincerely hope that you are back in full flow sometime very soon...

chicagobob says:

Now that really is a shame! I've enjoyed mangosauce-apart from the childish tantrums of a handful of split personalities using the forum to rage against anything and everyone, and vent their anger at the world in general. David, if there's any way you can maintain or ressurect the "sauce", please do. I, and I'm sure many others, will feel the poorer without it. All the best.

tatt2dude says:

This site was partly the inspiration for me to start this blogging "lark" so I am quite saddened by the news that you have decided upon this course of action.

I am lucky in that I have the day job or three that pays the rent and that my blog in some twisted way is justifiable due to my profession.

Good luck with the job hunting if you need any assistance drop me a line I really am quite grateful for the exposure that you gave me here.

I wish you well in your pursuit of a "proper job" and I sincerely hope that you will soon find your niche in the corporate jungle.

Then you too can enjoy, surly dishonest suppliers, ungrateful clients and unreliable resentful staff on a daily basis, for little or no thanks.

Come to think of it, pass me that empty Evian bottle and point me at the soi dogs, there's a vacancy here!

Best Regards

Tatt2dude

www.tatt2dude.com

Brian West says:

What next for the great David? Professional Lychee squeezer? Fusion foodstall financier? What in the name of Keith Summers himself could drag you away from this site?

You will be missed.

D333 says:

David,

Sad, but perhaps predictable news, especially after the Google stunt and as Kwai Mai Sabai has said, the current climate.

I sincerely hope that in the not too distant future things improve on many fronts and that Mango Sauce becomes a viable proposition again.

On picking a subject to spark a new thread, the paragraphs were often wittier than anything else being presently written about Thailand, and Mango Sauce will be sorely missed.

Best of luck in finding a lucrative alternative.

DudeBangkok says:

It sounds like an intelligent decision although your site was one of the very few openly describing the important topics for many farangs coming to Thailand.

For anybody who think Thailand is the paradise of the world, think again and see this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68qeExiAMY8

This Youtube video might be unavailable in Thailand but it's about an interview of a poor farang begging somewhere in Bangkok.

Yes, living in Thailand is very often not that great (besides the girls) and many guys give up when the wallet runs empty and the standard of living drops well below what they were used to before they came. Even a simple thing like owning a car is a hopeless dream for many farangs in Thailand.

Pants Elk says:

Better, perhaps, bottles of your own urine than someone else's. Think positive!

Robert says:

Ive read MS for about two years and I have enjoyed it a lot. It made me "close" to LOS even if I was far away in a another part of the world. By far the best (and funniest)online blog about life in Thailand. I will miss it.

Good luck David.

anonymous says:

As long as it's bottles of your own urine, you're fine.

Just curious, David, what's the new career?

Echobeach88 says:

A great shame David as I have enjoyed the site very much and forwarded the link to many a friend.

You could perhaps impose a levy on BGs to maintain things; say 20 bht per customer per night donated to the upkeep of the site.

Not sure if the ladyboy contingent would contribute but maybe they could raise funds for you by arm wrestling brawny US Marines on their shore leave in the LOS.

Cheers,

Dave The Rave says:

Hello David, I am very sorry to hear the news about the situation with your website. I am sure that my sentiments will be shared by many, when I say that the inimitable Mango Sauce will be missed. I wish you the best of luck with your new career and hope that you continue to post. You put such a unique angle on themes and news stories that I would hate to see such a talent disappear. Even if it is just occasionally we want to keeping reading Mango Sauce. Please keep posting mate!

Chris says:

Oh no! Mai dii mak!

I've just recently discovered this site. I love reading about all the sanuk mak mak things in LOS. It is one of those sites that gives me a taste of BKK while I'm living in Yerp. Fuck, I miss Thailand... Only been there on vacation twice. Last year on a lads vacation to BKK, Samui and Phangan. No, I am not some sa-melly cheapskate backpacker. Spent PLENTY of baht on the good things in life. This site gives the low-down on life overthere. I have also wrestled my way through Stickers piece on living there. I just can't believe this guy is an English teacher! I'm a non-native speaker and even I cringe at his shite spelling!
Oh David, please don't give up. Why don't you apply for a job at the Bangkok Post or The Nation ;-) Or would that be too restrictive?
Chok dii khap, C*

Lui says:

Many thanks and good luck ...

BangkokBadBoy.com says:

I assumed this was in the air, but it's still disappointing to see it confirmed.

Mango Sauce was by far the best-written of the Bangkok websites (yes, even better than mine), and whilst the legendary pissing matches in the comments sections sometimes had me shaking my head, it's always been a great source of entertainment.

Here's hoping it's not *quite* dead, and that you can at least post a few occasional updates every now and then.

Lost Boy says:

Shame. Have enjoyed this blog for some time now (since the whole saga with the good lady Lyle I think). Good luck with everything.

Andy says:

Hi David,

Thanks for the nice reading, intelligent comments, and keeping both feet on the ground (for all of us).

Good luck to you and yours!

Andy.

Stromasher says:

Sorry to hear your winding this down, your articles always gave me a laugh and it was interesting to read some of the wacky opinions posted on here.
All the best for the future that man.

Dana says:

I'll miss Dicer.

Combover says:

Any clue as to the new career? English teacher perhaps?

wetback farang guy says:

Hi david, I can't possibly understand what the fuss, let alone the duplicity is with Oggle. I mean, if they're going to ban you then sure do it because the damn site is so banal, but not because it's endangering young minds.

How can sites like the hun get away with it? If you Oggle "the hun" you'll get a site that's been a favourite for a while, but it's hardly women's weekly!

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=
the+hun&meta=

http://www.thehun.net/

See you around David, so long, and thanks for all the mango

Whippet says:

Sad to hear the news, David, but I understand the decision. When blogging goes through that transition from being fun to a major source of income, I don't believe it can ever go back to being truly fun again. I do hope though your "new career" is a euphemism for a "new website".

The timing is a bit of a bugger though as I was going to contact you in this coming week or two about you plugging the free beer and free food we'll be giving away soon to members of www.BKKPages.com. I guess now, I won't get chance. ;)

Saeb says:

A great pity Dave,
Mango Sauce has had beer running out my nostrils more than thrice.

A compendium of the funniest threads should be published and sold so that the bairns of the future may marvel on non PC speech.

I still cannot see a pic of a 'gote' without an involuntary snigger.
Classic indeed.

Anyway, wish you well, any help we can offer.

Regards,
Saeb.

Whippet says:

Ooops, please let me add to my previous message. It was rude of me not to say Thank You for such a truly great site.

Of all the Bangkok sites, this one was more than head-and-shoulders above the rest. With no disrespect to anyone, how Stick got more traffic than you was a travesty in terms of journalistic (not to mention graphic design) style.

Your writing is simply excellent.

The thing that frustrated me most about this site, and I'm pretty sure yourself included, was the number of readers who simply didn't "get it"; not through fault of your own, but purely because of the subject matter. There is some phenomenal advice contained in these pages for those who can comprehend beyond the tits and bums. "...those sincere about taking a wife should seek out the nicest girl they can find and accept no substitute - or anything that rhymes with it" is the single best sentence written anywhere, ever, on the subject of the Bangkok girly scene.

Best of luck, mate, and thanks once again.

migrant says:

I've enjoyed your stuff, but do understand.

But I don't understand why 'bottles' of urine? Usually I just let it go in the corner, on my pant leg, or on the soi dog.

the man with no name called dave says:

End of an era :-( Very sad!

David says:

Thank you for your kind words, Gentlemen. I can hardly believe that no one has come here to gloat or dance on my grave and I'm truly touched.

Due to the small band of male stalkers bent on either seducing or ruining me (I hope it's the latter), I can't reveal publicly what I'm going to do next but, in answer to Combover's question, I can confirm that I won't be shaping young minds in the classroom. However, with any luck, I'll still be doing it in the gogo bars for many years to come.

Tatt2dude's remark best sums up my new situation in life.

"Then you too can enjoy surly, dishonest suppliers, ungrateful clients and unreliable resentful staff on a daily basis, for little or no thanks."

Back to the real world...

chris says:

that is a shame,i enjoy reading this site,mabye u could come bck under the name chutney sauce,just an idea.

blender says:

Hey David,
I've been reading and enjoying your posts for years but never commented until now.
Shame that the great Mango is winding down!
Best of luck,

bauk haum noi says:

terrible to hear that things may be wound up permanently - the sight was always great humour in an enviroment which is short on clever thought. Perhaps the variables will change so that the financial model might be made to work out.. but if not au revoir and many thanks for great writing

Sunglasses Ron says:

eh? eh? Fkn EH?

I can't believe it. Is there a fat lady singing? (If there was, what would she sing? would it be any good? of course it would, fatties make smashing singers. FACT. Everyone knows it.)

Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbour.?

No it wasn't. But, Thaksin heads to Blighty to buy Man City (lavverly club, smashing, done nothing since teh Fedora smoked that last great cigar) and you've got to dash off after him, aintcha?

Yes... there's a job going...yes, its in your first love, football management... yes it'll pay millions (and yes, we put the lady boy frighteners on Ranieri so he'd do one for you)....... but what thought have you given to teh poor little perves on here? NONE. YOU'VE JUST NOT GOT IT IN YA NO MORE.

They don't want to have to go back to being ignored by farang girls. They want honest to god, fly by night scrubbers, what have got ones on em like stab wounds in spider monkeys backs.

I know its only right bruvver, i know it had to happen, but think about the children David, say it aint so Joe, say it aint so...

I'm out there with the Glass miracle from July 20th. You are playing upfront in a 4-3-3

Fruit Batman says:

You've not been offered the Man City manager job have you?

Baby driver says:

Farewell you have kept me amused for a long time

TakeItEasy says:

David, been a reader for a while. It is truly difficult for a blog to be one's sole income and you were rather fortunate to make it for a while.

But the Internet is very dynamic and these things are bound to happen. Only a handful of people have a 'internet' job that really pays the bills. You were rather fortunate, but it had to end one day. Don't take it personally and try to use other kind of ads too. ;)

Just get a day job and try to keep MS alive with a few posts a week. You can have a job just like us, but only you can get this site going.

Cheers!

Swampdonkey says:

Since coming to Thailand over a yearago I have avidly been reading your website.

I am extremely dissapointed that Google have done something like this. is there anything we can do to let Google know we are pissed off with the stupid people?

Anyways, good luck for the future, and I hope that you still get the chance to at least weekly or monthyl drop a line on here for us to keep up to date with ya.

If you're ever in Pattaya, drop me an email and I'll buy you a beer or two for the many months of great humour and company you've given me.

Cheers mate.....

Anonymous says:

david.....

a witty an informative site a mens magazine such as FHM style of journalism no pissing around straight to the pint and not as long-winded as many other sites.

i am at a loss on how you could make much money with adsense as peeps have to click though the ad and then you only get say a certain amount of cents for each click.

any info here? as i have made a thailand mulitmedia web site but as yet wait to upload to the web. i know that you may be busy right now but david that pain in the ass job awaits you somewhere, tatt2dude is spot on.

[You need to (a) attract a lot of traffic and (b) not piss Google off - David]

anyway dont take down the site just yet as it would be great to to look back at some of the good stuff. i may be pissed for quite some time.
as metioned earlier you could now have mangosauce the greatest tits etc etc.

btw....when going for a piss in a dirt soi forget the dogs you have to see if you can hit the biggest rat.

good luck.

Anonymous says:

I would like to read some of your stalker/overzealous fan encounter stories.

Ernesto Ortega says:

ITS A PITY THE WAY IT HAS GONE. WHERE AM I GOING TO GET MY FIX OF THAI BEAUTIES?

THANKS DAVID FOR THE PUBLIC SERVICE YOU HAVE DONE.

IF YOU GET SOME TIME PLEASE DO POST SOMETHING ABOUT THAI GIRLS - ESPECIALLY THOSE RARITIES WITH ENORMOUS BOOBIES!

EO

starkravingmad says:

I'm wondering how much the threats of David's outting by the moronic and nasty psychopath John Galt/Keith Bummers have to do with this decision? Is this the straw that broke the camel's back? Has this loony bastard caused yet another interesting and fun Thailand website to close, or caused at least its ruination and downgrading to a much less interesting site? Is Galt the one who caused Google to take a hard look at the MangoSauce site and its "adult" themed content?

Will we ever know? Who's next? When will Yahoo ads come to play in the "pay for click" ads game in a serious and lucrative way? Are there no other places to gain income through ads placed in a website or blog? When will Galt get his just due?

I am sorry to see this site go. It is one of the best written, amusing, intelligent, interesting, and zany outrageous websites about the LOS on the net. The best of its kind by far.

I'm sorry to hear this David. Good luck in your future endevors, and try to keep up at least a weekly here.

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Hi starkravingmad

People have been speculating that Galt/Summers might have influenced my decision to quit but this isn't the case.

When I first started writing this blog, I was quite taken aback by the level of hostility - and even death-threats - aimed at me but I quickly realised that these idiots were all wind and piss.

Getting stalked by weird men was a bit alarming at first but they all gave themselves away by adopting the same approach - posing as potential advertisers - and delegating my ad sales to an agency solved the problem.

Galt has been my most determined stalker to date and his antics are rather distasteful but, frankly, he's nothing special - just a silly little loner with a personality disorder.

The only nutcase who actually managed hit his mark was the guy who persuaded Google to pull my ads. I don't know who it was but he certainly delivered the coup de grace to Mango Sauce.

At present, there are no viable alternatives. Yahoo isn't a serious player in the international market and the AdBrite network's pay-per-click rates collapsed a few months ago.

Regards
David

Tatt2dude says:

"Back to the real world..."

Hey your welcome. Just remember to set very clear goals of where you are going and where you want to be:

Mine is to move into the highest condo in Bangkok.

When I jump I want to make sure the impact kills me instantly, but I still want enough time to admire the view on the way down.

www.tatt2dude.com

KC says:

Amen

Gianni says:

That's such a shame...

Many thanks for everything you've done David, your web site was definitely one of the best I came accross.

I do wish you lot of success in whatever you will do in the future and hope to hear from you soon.

Take care mate,
Gianni

John says:

Good luck with working in a real job. It's kinda sad since four years online is a good knock, but it's better to throw the towel in before you end up with "Parkinson's syndrome." I guess we'll have to read Keith Summer's drivel now - LOL! Thanks for the memories and see you round Sukumwit.

kwai mai sabai says:

The only nutcase who actually managed hit his mark was the guy who persuaded Google to pull my ads.-David

Who would go so far as to eliminate all the competion for his web-site by any means? Who hates the world and himself so much that he would stoop this low?

My guess is it's J(ism) G(uzzler) himself. I've seen him do the same thing on at least 3 other forums.

Karma has something waiting for him! And it isn't going to be pretty!

ozricdan says:

damn ive been saving pages of mangosauce furiously.......dont take it down just yet.

going to get some friends to my house and make a night of it.

so much i have missed............!

btw.. david you can REALLY make that money with ad sense?

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Hi Ozricdan

Don't worry. I'll leave Mango Sauce up for posterity.

Yes. AdSense really is quite lucrative - so long as you have a high-traffic site.

Regards
David

Dark Dreams says:

David,

You have done great things with this forum but please don't patronize us with talk of ending it because of inadequate earnings. I see no evidence that you tried to monetize this site nor make the most of its earning potential. The loss of Google advertizing may have played a small part in the decision to end it but I see no evidence that you have tried to seek out other ways of making money from the site. I don't for a moment think that is your reason for walking away.

I therefore believe that there is another reason for your choosing to bid adios to the forum. I am with the growing minority who point to a certain Great Git who has been responsible for silencing other websites. I would bet a small fortune that he has found out your identity and or personal details about you and threatened you and you have buckled. That is your choice and one I understand. Just please do not try and tell us otherwise. Fools we are not.

I would wager a good amount that you have been threatened.

You were never in it for the money. Most of us realized that. Don't upset your faithful by telling fibs at the time you need us most.

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Hi Keith Summers

Stop playing with your "tummy banana" this instant!

That might be your sweaty fantasy but it didn't play out that way, did it?

Naturally, I value my privacy but, even if you had managed to 'out' me, what's the worst that could happen?

Someone might buy me a beer.

Regards
David

ketkonen says:

Bye bye hansum man david. Moma say water buffalo velly sick, so please keep send money western union. Will miss you, where I find galtboy ? He have good heart ? He give me money for Moma ? Always solly to see falang money go. I think it velly sad

canipsi says:

No great loss...

Mr Lucky says:

One less piece of amoral trash on the internet...

A damn shame, that.

Geoff says:

Why not look for someone to take over and negotiate some kind of revenue sharing on whatever income the new guy can generate?

[Because there's no revenue to share - David]

I am sure there are plenty of people. who are looking for an opportunity and who could (without your flair, of course) carry on the Mangosauce legacy.

Kasman says:

Granted it was a popular site. But also granted is you had NO WORK Permit and probably did not pay any Thai tax on the income you were earning.

So you eventually got what was coming to you. If you live in Thailand and collect income, even if the site is hosted in the USA, you have a responsibility to pay tax.

Granted I remember getting into a hoe-down a while back where some of your readers claimed you had more money than jesus, which at the time I disagreed with.

So that does not appear to be the case if you are going out in search of a menial job?

One of the posters had it correctly. You have a huge site, but your ego and eccentric behavior, combined with a lack of business accumen, led you down a path where you could not financially capitalize on the sites full potential.

You should have roped in a couple of partners, increased the amount of daily stories, created all the contraversy in the world to increase the traffic, added your own Mango Themed products like hats and polo shirts, and a host of other things.

Counting on Google ad-words for your only source of income, even though it may have worked, was incredibly stupid.

While you had some income was the time to be building up more income, not by being arrogant and egotistical.

I was never a fan of your stories at all and quite frankly the last story was a good summary of most of the stories here, in that it sucked.

However, Bangkok needs a forum where all people can verbally duke it out with each other.

It can be Mango Sauce or Elephant Sauce, no one would care as long as readers can post their opposing opinions on everything and anything.

You are a victim of your own egocentrical behavior.

Getting a job and from the sounds of it in a bar, better hope you have all your legal ducks (permits and visas) in order because it will be just a matter of time before you get popped.

You probably alienated a good number of foreigners here that are in position to help you with jobs, finances and other things.

In the future, never put yourself on a pedestal above the common man, because sooner or later, the pedestal will get knocked out from under you and there will be no one left to help you up off the ground.

Another farang casualty of Bangkok. Add your name to the list, snuff out your torch and do the walk of shame out of her.

There is no mercy or pity for arrogance and egomaniacs. The internet is what it is, and while you may fancied yourself as a quasi internet god here, your self-imposed god-like internet stature has collided with real life.

Now be a good boy and go fetch the boss a cup of coffee before you lose your new job.

Kasman starts the bidding for MangoSauce at 5000 baht?

Do I hear 6000 baht anywhere?

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Hi Keith Summers

The insight that you've given us into your fantasy life is predictably disturbing.

Please pop your cock back into your pants and go frot yourself against someone else.

Regards
David

Dicer says:

THE NOI CONCLUSION

If there is one good conclusion we can make from MS I'd put it this way. Cesar Millan, that crazy Mexican hisser who's the second cousin of Tanai Kwai has a basic lesson: your dog is not Fluffy (the human) but first, animal, then kind, then breed and then Fluffy. This is a lesson that was transposed time and again. From David's articles to the comments to the amusing stories from plenty of Men Who Love Bangkok for One Specific Reason... its women.

You can get it that males superimpose some DNA vision or whatever on ladies. Take any Noi for example. You have to back up. Noi is not the class president, never worked at Wendy's and does not have a grandmother named Hilda. So let's do the Cesar.

WHAT EXACTLY IS NOI?

We have mammal. Then Lao and poor. We have a look at Noi now. She is 100 miles off any fraternisation plan and in Asia almost an untouchable. You have to deal with her as the lao farm girl, serf, etc or she will run you over and put curare in your coffee. If you put Noi on a pedestal it simply means you're trying to compensate for Eileen who did the dump on you back then. Cesar again: Noi is not Eileen. Noi is for entertainment purposes only.. Noi is not to be taken home. And def Noi is not to be given the keys for the master bedroom.

The beauty of synthesis is this: there is always a conclusion.This is what Those Men Who Love Bangkok for One Specific Reason should take home. Cesar did it with categorisation. MS did it with disambiguation and the fertile-murtle did it with tart analysis.

The noi conclusion a la mangosauce can even be called "the disambiguation of misalliance."

Poking fun at this misalliance was the enjoyable part of Mangosauce. Why? Well....for starters not everyone is you. Then not everyone comes from Kansas. And then people and culture are not the same. Mangosauce is replete with the suitcase full of assumptions people bring to Thailand. If it is not the locals we are poking fun at then it certainly is these assumptions.

The Essence of Mangosauce

As I travel the Middle East and Africa I notice the same stuff as in Thailand. Just as money sloshing around the markets looks for a quick profit and inadvertently arrives at dodgy countries like Bulgaria and Moldova in search of real estate gains cocks travel to strange places looking for pussy and potential hooker-wives. Strange places like Trobriand Islands in the Pacific or Djibouti, just off the Bab-el-Mandab. LOS stories and the mutant tart lore are similarly played out in several countries. So it is not the 'passing' of Mangosauce that I mourn but the lack of similar websites - well above the Lonely Planet/Worldsexguide fodder - for other interesting cities in Asia, Mideast or Africa....cities like Addis Ababa Ashgabat or Dubai.

Prufrock says:

David

Mangosauce brought (and continues to bring) tremendous fun and great insight to our little corner of humanity.

A behind-the-scenes book on Bangkok's most successful blog, perhaps?

In a tough room like Bangkok, you'll always be head and shoulders above the rest.

Best of everything in your future endeavors.

Respectfully,
Prufrock

mbkljb says:

Hi David

Thats really sad to hear. As a newcomer to your excellent forum, I have enjoyed the endless wit and amusing turns of phrase covering a wide range of subjects. Even the non-believers are quite entertaining in their feeble attempts to disrupt the flow.

Sadly money is king wherever you go these days, and Thailand is most certainly one of those places where it is more than just 'handy'. Best of luck with the new venture, whatever it is. Having passed your website onto many colleagues and friends, I'm sure I can wish you success on their behalf.

Perhaps I might bump into you and your canine friends in a dirty old soi down Khlong Toey some day !!! If not, then it might be in that excellent music bar again.

JB

Roberto E. Lee says:

David,
Your site always pulled me through the tough times of Thailand. And when I couldn't elaborate on the difficulties I encountered in the land so many tourists might consider a paradise, a quick hyperlink to your stories fleshed the problem out.
I can remember reading your site while drinking a bottle of piss-warm Chang from the local 7-11, drowning out the taste of rotting fish from the som tam. Your site provided a sense of digital camaraderie in a bestial nation, and I still often return to MangoSauce for the humor you provided.
Though I hate to suggest such, perhaps it might be time to hop on the exodus wagon? If Thailand is no longer so pleasant a place for you, and now fails to be even profitable, then why remain?
Best of luck in whatever you do, but don't let your writing talent fade.

ouan says:

Thanks also for the entertainment.

Have you looked at alternatives to Google? The Yahoo Publishers Network, e.g.?

Have you ever considered getting some kind of watchdog involved in your case, since Google AdWords do appear on other "naughty" websites? A friend was successful doing that.

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Hi Ouan

Over the last 12 months, I've investigated all the alternatives.

Which watchdog were you referring to?

Regards
David

Kasman says:

David

Boo fucking hoo to you!

Not everyone on this site that does not agree with you is Keith Summers.

Your ignorance in all matters is exactly why you are looking for a job.

Long gone is the arrogant, egocentrical king of the Thailand bloggers.

Welcome in a current era of backslapping, sadness and self-pity.

Ask your arrogant self if you are now still the king in your own mind?

You are a personal waste of your own talents.

Why?

Arrogance and egocentrical behavior, thinking you are always better than everyone else here.

The big problem is Mango Sauce created a persona for you that in your mind you were someone very important in Thailand.

Internet popularity and financial wealth are not the same, and as you are now finding out, all the popularity in the world won't pay the bills here David.

If you still think I am Keith Summers, maybe I can arrange an interview for you at MY COMPANY here in Thailand.

I am sure you with your intellect and wit, we could certainly find something for you to do.

There are farangs here that have financially strong, professional businesses like everywhere else in the world.

We are not talking about EBAY like Summers, or teaching school and running a website.

Head over to Thai Country Club and I will introduce you to many.

It's sad but your five minutes of fame is up. Your internet persona led you to believe you were one of the elite here, and I think now that reality has slapped you in the face, you should think long and hard about what it takes to be able to financially survive in Thailand.

Depending on Google Ad-words is not the answer.

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Hi Keith

After-market LED turn-signals don't really float my boat.

Thanks for the offer but I have my own plans.

Regards
David

broadbandbully says:

I knew Stalker Summers would not be able to resist kicking a man whilst he is down. You know he will be taking full credit for your downfall in his next episode of "Fantasy Island" he puts out every thursday.

Mangosauce is still the best ex pat themed web site out there, how many people will be looking through "The Great Galts" archives in three years time and laughing? Very few I fear.

Come on David get the job sorted out and get back to Mangosaucing as soon as possible, we'll be waiting for the next installment.

Pants Elk says:

I don't see the need for any Fat Elvis style sobbing farewell tours just yet. If your problem is you're not getting any money from your writing, do it anyway, as a hobby, from time to time, like you said in your piece. There are plenty of us out here who write because they once made a decent dollar from it, and continue in the sure and certain belief that better times are ahead. You're a writer, David, that's what you do (probably what you do best) and even if you don't find the right combination of luck/talent/work that sometimes results in a fiscally advantageous side-effect, you'll keep writing. Because you know you're good at it and you enjoy it.
And I wouldn't worry about the frequency of your updates. The comments section has achieved critical mass, with its own momentum - we can carry on quite well without you, thank you very much, but please do drop by from time to time to freshen the place up a bit. (What about that poor slob arrested for making threatening emails to Tesco's from Soi 4? How can you resist?)
Come on, David - be a go-with guy!

Prufrock says:

Keith Summers

Worldwide, there are more than a few expat communities where the foreign guys for one reason or another and much to the delight of the locals, stumble around stepping on each other's blue suede shoes.

Thailand is no exception.

Whether you actually did it or not, you crow about killing the comics page of daily expat life here in Thailand.

Paul, wisely, chose not to engage.
David, a class act all the way, engages, beats you and retains his composure, his self-respect and legions of fans, friends and allies.

I make no such claims to propriety or civility. I'm still waiting the day when, out of the blue, I can flatten your fucking nose with a surprise elbow smash, at a time and a place of my own choosing.

I see things ending painfully for you in the months to come, in any case.

Your bullshit reason for this psychotic stalking behavior is that you did it because David might not have paid taxes to the Thais.
This insults our intelligence.
By saying it, you simply prove to all that as a business partner you'd have been toxic in any event.

You attempted to blackmail this site and others into business entanglements with you.
Wisely, they resisted.
You poisoned their lives and you are a blight on ours.

Expats will be expats, though, right Keith? Sadly, instead of banding into a loose community of friendly, supportive allies helpful towards one another, they squabble. Or wisely, in steering clear of sick bastards like yourself, they lead good lives they stay sane and good.
No biggee it's just what expats seem to do. It's what normal people usually do.
It's no big surprise.

You seem to confuse your heavy Prozac/ psychotropic drug mismanagement program and your modest eBay sales with some semblance of acceptance and popularity here. You see yourself as some beacon of light and an example of good comportment. You, Keith Summers the self-admitted sex tourist, pedophile and virgin-stalker, blackmailer, dead-beat parent, and hit and run artist.

More reality?

Your behavior towards your contemporaries here is patently and consistently extortionate.

Your eBay sales are half a planet away. Here in Thailand, your ugly face is known to all. You overdose Prozac because your life is miserable.

The relevance of all this?
Back here where it counts (because back here is where you live and work, after all) you are undoubtedly the most detested foreigner in the entire population.

That's right Summers, I simply challenge you or anyone else to tell me of a more detested and reviled piece of shit in all this land.

And we'll include this Tesco blackmailer, the old German AIDS guy, pedophile John Mark Kerr and any other freak you'd care to name in the mix.
In going broad-spectrum you've surpassed them all.

G'head Keith.
You're currently challenging Paul's ex for a tell-all, and and putting a price on David's ID so here's a challenge for you:

Is ANYONE in Thailand hated or reviled to a greater extent by ALL his fellow expats than you are? I'd say Thais you don't pay are with us on this. And some you DO pay ;-)

If YES please provide a name or two.

If the answer is "NO" and you cannot think of anyone more despised than yourself, by your standards of logic and reasoning we'll accept your golden silence as admission and confirmation of the truth.

Keith Summers is the most detested reviled foreign piece of shit in all Thailand.

Tony says:

I'm not a massive fan of the whole "nightlife thing" in Thailand, but I did find the MangoSauce site entertaining and will definately be sorry to see it go. Hopefully David you will still be able to run the site as a sideline/hobby.

If I remember it correctly the whole Google AdSense debacle blew up long before KS appeared on the scene.

Is there any mileage in going back to Google and figuring out what needs to be done to get off their Blacklist? I am grabbing at straws here and I guess you tried that already.

Well, I hope the site continues in some shape or form and good luck with the new job.

Coldweasel Quintus says:

David

Sad to see the end. It's been a brilliant site and some of the articles are the best material on Thailand I've seen anywhere.

Time for the book, methinks: there is enough work here for several volumes. As to the question of whether people would be prepared to pay for Mango Sauce collections now that no new material is being produced, the answer is strongly in the affirmative: All art increases in value when the maker stops making it.

Drop me an email if you are interested in publishing something.

Steve says:

Very sad. During a recent 21 month corporate project this was one of the bright moments of the day and did produce a regular smile as I peeked into the lives of ex-pats in Thailand. Best of luck in the 'real world'

Wombat says:

Kasman

While gloating you said in relation to David "Arrogance and egocentrical behavior, thinking you are always better than everyone else here". You are too stupid to realise that you described yourself. An arrogant, egocentric, witless caddy.

hash9 says:

Thought you found a way around your Googleproblem after that Yankistani BoyGeorge lookalike shot you out of the water. Even before his compatriot poofter began flashing his indicators on your site.
Great pity, I enjoy your stories - and where will the children write fuck fuck suck-my-dick now? Only on toilet doors at school?

Poetic Justice says:

Sorry to hear that David...you provided endless fun.

Besides this particular thread will not die because the persecution of "he with bloodied eye and cloven foot" Prufrock,, must begin again in earnest. The supposed editor of a Canadian comic wants to elbow smash Keith Summers. Prufrock has obviously forgotten Ubon Herald's excellent report on that topic.

You lost Pru, live and learn...

Anyway, I thought you were taking Om Sin (High-class-ho) to Switzerland and selling her? I'm curious to know the final price for this used meat product. Let me know...

Tatt2dude says:

What a wanker!

As we Brits say......

www.Tatt2dude.com

Loose Cannon says:

Sorry to see you go David.

Hopefully, with no forum to trawl, Prufrock will try jumping from the Landmark Hotel? How we would love to see that on Youtube...

Kasman says:

Wombat,

At least I am not on here balling about losing my google adword income and having to get a job.

You are mindless twit and who knows, who knows, who knows.

Bangkok is a small, small world

Looper says:

This geezer flogging fairy lights from Nakhon Phanom has some weird issues regarding his professed concern with other people's self image.

I don't think his efforts are so much about pulling up people 'who think they're better than everyone else' so much as sabotaging anyone who clearly is better than the Great J[izzum] G[argler]

Kasman says:

Prurock,

You get my vote for the most detested piece of shit in Thailand, not Keith Summers.

I would pay Keith a big bounty to out you, you fag.

Then see what would happen next? I think you would be on the next plane out of here.

You have been the biggest mouth on this site and I for one am happy as hell people like you will have no place to spew your bullshit,or any of your 100's of other names you use.

Do what the other poster suggested at the Landmark. Do us all a favor.

Mango going down the drain is good news, good news.

Kasman says:

Mango Sauce dies on the vine. This is the best thing that can happen.

For all you expats that worship this site, fuck all of you stupid asses.

Going to die with no more Rock Rat stories? How fucking pathetic!

The only reason this site thrives is the ability to comment and people (like that stupid shit Prurock) getting 500 people to post and argue with him off the main topic.

There are no stories what so ever that have any value to any one with any common sense.

All you fuckers must be too broke to get out and enjoy life in Thailand, to miss something as pathetic as this website.

Want to have contraversy and argue? Hand out all your email addresses to each other and once a week get together for a drunken verbal assault that will lead to everyone beating the shit our of each other FOR REAL.

Dave is nothing but a fucker loser who played all you idiots into supporting his site so he did not have to get a job.

I suggest to Galt to keep an open eye out Dave to see if you have a work permit and are legal or bam, you are on the next plane with Prurock.

There are 100's of better websites with better material than this. If you dont believe me as ask Tatt2dude as he is plugging his site in every post.

None of your grown men, need this site to survive and it will not be missed.

Hopefully you can find something real and meaningful to do with your time. And if you feel the urge to argue and have contraversy, go to the nearest bar, get snockered and pick a fight with the biggest guy in the bar.

The next morning you may realize you don't need so much contraversy and argueing.

Mango Sauce provides a forum for everyday fuckers struggling to make ends meet here in Thailand, to shoot their mouths off using multiple user names and threatening everything and everyone under the sun.

What a bunch of lame keyboard pussies!

Dave the best thing you can do is shut this shithole site off for good. You will eventually get a job and this site will follow you around, eventually outing you and getting your ass in a pan of hot water.

Cleanse yourself of your Mango Sins and try to live a righteous life here, donate some of your time to a good cause, and put this all behind you.

Life is too short. You sold your sole to be an internet whore here in Thailand and it is time to pay the devil his due.

You and I both know big brother is watching you, watching and waiting.

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Hi Keith Summers

I think you're having a nervous breakdown.

Seriously.

Regards
David

Prufrock says:

Hmm. Let's see now.
Pathetic Nonsense, Loose Condom, who always post in tandem, Kasman, dangle pringle (RIP) . . . I'm compiling the guest list for the first (and last) Asian Smegnals writer's convention.

You guys, except when you're trying to build profile for your handles, never even bothered to write distinctively and differently from one another. Who do you think you're fooling?
We know who you are.
You write so badly you can't even hold your cover.
So yeah, as usual, Keith, your convention of one. Your orgy of one. Your partnership of one.
Onanismus un-interuptus.

The truth doesn't hurt that much if you gobble those SSRI's like breath mints it seems. Jailed for under the counter and re-habed in the US and now OD-ing on ersatz over the counter SSRI's. This will end badly.
For you, Keith.
For you.

The side effects from this are well documented. Do continue with your self-medication . . . hell that shit works its magic even when a doctor's involved.
. . . . so sooner or later there'll be that messy rooftop swimming pool incident . . . .
Thailand's most despised and reviled foreigner does a Jim Morrison in an ABS water tank full of LED's.
What's the six o'clock news here without pixelled-out accident footage involving a foreigner ?

danny says:

I'm looking foward to the day I run into Keith Summers.
My Motorcycle Taxi friends tell me it 100 baht per kick.
Cheap.

Dana says:

"the disambiguation of misalliance"?

Quick, I need a Dicer medication. I'll miss Dicer. He only mistepped once when he lined up with the other little boys to throw snowballs at me and temporarily I could not tell the difference between his balls and the other boys' balls. Sad. But a misstep is not a career and I will miss Dicer.

I will also miss Tanai Kwai who even when he irritated, did it with interest. This Quixotian duo wasn't seen elsewhere with density on the web and David's site seemed to be the site where you could stumble across their spoor.

Neither one of them deemed me sufficiently interesting to return an email. I am sure you find that as amusing as I do. Ah Thailand, soon the farang necrophiliacs will have to find other corpses, this one is growing old.

Prufrock says:

Speaking of "small, small world"(s): BTW, you manage to out yourself every time you grab the keyboard.
It's phenomenal.

Summers, we ALL know what you look like but you haven't the slightest idea which one of us is gonna clock you next. They say you did time for powders in the states so you'll know how this works. (You're on EVERYBODY'S dance card so it's just a matter of time.)
Could be ANYWHERE you show up. And THAT'S not in some rambling bowdlerized fantasy from a pathetically sophomoric imaginary newspaper.
You can take this one to the fucking bank.

You . . . in big pixels . . . the six o'clock news . . . a roadside ditch.

Just skip your SSRI's for a week or gobble a blister pack of ersatz "blanks".
It'll save us the trouble?

Meantime, I'm just waiting for that name from you. You know, someone who'll stand out as more hated than Keith Summers.

Think fast.

Carrie says:

Hello Keith Summers,

I have decided you need to be kicked in the bollocks so that is what I am going to do. See you soon. And where is that dumb shit Toad Natzi?

Kasman says:

Prurock

You have been talking about clocking people since the first day Summers outed Stickman.

Either clock someone and post the event on You Tube or shut the fuck up. Your idle threats are scaring no one.

The demise of Mango Sauce was predicted a few months back, remember.

Too bad Dave cannot be honest as to the real reasons he is bowing out, but I think it would have something to do with a place where he might get some dicks stuffed into his arse?

In the end Prurock, you have never been right and now your one avenue for internet fame is closing down.

Do me a favor, run out in front of the first car you see and put yourself out of your own misery.

You know where Summers lives, what he looks like, then have some balls and go up there on YOUR own and clock him.

You are allowed to take one camera man to film the event, however, the camera man cannot assist you if you start getting your ass kicked.

No more talking, time for action Clock Man. Get on the first bus to Summers house and make it happen.

In the event you cannot find the balls to do this, shut the fuck up and don't give us any excuses why not.

No gangs of internet hooligans to help you out, you, yourself and your hot tub LED fantasies need to head North and make it happen.

Remember, NO FUCKING EXCUSES!

broadbandbully says:

Kasman,

Please list below: "There are 100's of better websites with better material than this."

Come on KSman, you have a waiting audience. For Gods sake don't write down any of your own sites because they aren't a patch on MS, never will be.

cns says:

We have several native English speaking technicians here working with us logging Thai based blogs.

Keith Summers is now fully visible to us and we have the mandate to block and deport net users who violate our country's ethical internet code.

'NotStickman' is under review and there is no appeal. Thanks to your reader feedback we are better able to track and monitor offending individuals and their actions such as Keith Summers.

His currents remarks about visa renewal irregularities on his blog 'NotStickman' have enabled us to better proceed with this matter from several different angles.

This must be some assurance to 'Prufrock' who, indirectly, has been able to highlight matters for us.

Tatt2dude says:

" If you dont believe me as ask Tatt2dude as he is plugging his site in every post."

Oh dear.

Does this mean I am the next object of your desire?

Let me save you some time, got the work permit, the companies legal. the visa's up to date and already outed myself.

That don't leave you much to work with does it?

Oh! I forgot, name dropping, the famous one liner..

"I know people"

Well I meet the most interesting people in the tattoo community and as world wide communities go it's quite small, the Thai artists love the new ink we are importing for them.

David you have my admiration.

It takes real composure and a certain amount of class to walk away from something as distasteful as a spiteful little bully.

Never been able to do it myself, in fact I take great pleasure in taking them to the fucking cleaners when they start.....

For the sake of consistency... www.tatt2dude.com

starkravingmad says:

David,

I've recently come across a website providing alternatives for Google Adsense. Some of these might prove useful for you if you haven't seen this yet. Here's the url to the page which includes links to all ten of the alternative ad sites: http://www.rosswalker.co.uk/adsense_top10/

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The Top 10 Alternatives to Google Adsense

Google AdSense is the current leader in content-sensitive web-based marketing. Webmasters can place Google AdSense JavaScript code on their web pages in order to allow Google's servers to show context sensitive advertisements (Google Adwords). The left hand side of this page shows an example of a Google AdSense skyscraper displaying a text or image ad.

Google's terms and conditions are very strict such that many web publishers cannot use adsense adverts on their sites. They are either denied from joining the Google AdSense program, or in a situation that is becoming more and more common do not wish to do business with Google. A number of publishers are also finding their Adsense accounts are being disabled for reasons that are completely beyond their control. The problem is that most of the alternatives to Google's Adsense are pretty useless. Most of the good ones (such as doubleclick) are only interested in very large volume customers and so are not interested in the little guy with his blog who wants to earn a small income on the side. For this reason I have compiled my Top 10 alternatives to Google's Adsense that are ideal for the small time publisher.

Has your adsense account been disabled? Then try these top 10 alternatives.

Clicksor
Yahoo Publisher Network
All Feeds
Fast Click
Veoda
Bidvertiser
Chitika
Target Point
Revenue Pilot
ClickThruTraffic
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I hope this may possibly be of some help, David. Google is the leader in this, but possibly with a mix of a couple/few of these ad revenue sites, and some other creative advertising schemes, you could possibly bring in enough income to make the site more productive financially.

starkravingmad

[Thanks for that, starkravingmad - David]

Prufrock says:

Summers
Drop the other names.
Everyone knows.

You're losing it now aren't you. That nervous breakdown is just around the corner. You know all the signs.
The last breakdown happened when you cut your posts to bi-weekly.
This one promises to be slightly more tectonic. But you'll just up the SSRI dose, right? You can handle it. Just up the dose. A few more lines.
These episodes are becoming more and more pronounced. The SSRI's will help less and less and finally, keith, finally, you'll just blow.
People under medical supervision and using SSRI's blow all the time. You are in the middle of the fucking jungle ass-wipe and you're gobbling them like Clorettes.
But you know all that.
Time is on MY side.
It's on OUR side.
You're fucked. :-)

So no Keith.
NO, I will NOT be blackmailed, manipulated, cajoled nor will I fall for any of the other Prozac-brained and Keith Summers generated logical" silliness you try to frame.

Your nose job is gonna happen at a time and place of MY choosing or, more realistically, OUR choosing.

First, I want everybody to see the psychological breakdown of Thailand's most hated and reviled and perverse foreign resident.

I've got plenty of time and plenty of money by the way. Ask around.
So g'head. Just put the question out. You're good at that. Ask around.
Hey. Put out a reward.
People DO know me. I've been around for years. And there are people who know I've got the money and the time.

It's you who's running out of time.

You need to get me into a show before this play runs cold.
You're the desperate one.

I'VE got YOU.
You're the one having a fucking blowout.

How do you like it, you crazy turbo-hated bastard?

And I'm still waiting for that name.

C'mon smart ass.
The name of some foreigner in Thailand more thoroughly hated and despised than Keith Summers.

Hey, Fuck man, I'll even PAY you for it if you can come up with a good one. David's call.

In fact, ANYONE. Can ANYONE (I guess we can include all Keith's aliases here as well) Can ANYONE come up with the name of a more a more hated person?
There were legit posters who took heavy shots at the Prufrock brand.
So, Anyone here.
Can anyone come up with a more hated and more reviled name than Keith Summers; owner of Asian Smegnals??
I don't think so.
Keith Summers, the self-admitted sex tourist, pedophile and virgin-stalker, blackmailer, dead-beat parent, jail-bird, prescription and non-prescription drug addict and hit & run artist.

If David's Mangosauce posts less or not at all it's YOU who suffers most. YOU.

C'mon. Make our day.
Have another SSRI.
Double the bloody dose.

Heh heh. Go crazy. Go out with a bang. We'll like you better for doing it super-nova. :-)

Prufrock says:

Good one broadbandbully.

Summers'll drop this Kasman shit if you push him hard enough. I've done it before. If you can get him to up his SSRI doses and to spin faster and faster he'll just blow.
Fun to watch.

He's such a shitty writer.
He just can't keep his "voices" straight.
So shitty that he had to try to blackmail people into writing for him. He just can't do it.

Do ya think this Summers douche-bag can come up with the name of someone in Thailand more hated than himself?

I don't think so.

Keith's "100's of better websites with better material than this" are all illegal for the simple reason that Keith's self admitted tastes run to, (and I quote from the writing of the weasel himself) the aforementioned hobbies and passtimes:

self-admitted sex tourist, pedophile and virgin-stalker, blackmailer, dead-beat parent, and hit and run artist and much much more :-).

Prufrock says:

Summers
It's not just Prufrock as you can see.

Now at this stage I'm sure you'll bring in your clown patrol to try and confuse the issues at hand. But since all your ID's write like you and spell like you and come from the same abused tornado-bait background as you, and write like the barely functional sub-literate, Keith Summers, there's not much use in doing that.

Save yourself the trouble.

Step up as "Keith Summers".
Freaky doofus "'Art of the Deal', Keith". (loved that BTW)
"Pathetic, hiding, scared- shitless Keith".

"Read 'Atlas Shrugged' in the slammer Keith".

"Hot-tub Keith"

Sooner or later someone's gonna get to a truly desperate twat like the Tesco guy and just drop him some dough to do you. Taxi guys. Guys from Irish pubs (my bet, actually)
You are a sitting fucking duck.

In case you haven't noticed, these guys not actually into threatening.
Their statements sound like simple promises. Promises made by people who're familiar with the art of this particular kind of deal.
For starters, it'll be at a time and a place of their own choosing. Not your's.

Who in the real world of "settling", ever responds to a taunt from a talky hit? A Taunt to come into the open from a sneaky, stab in the back, sniping, cunt like yourself? As a player and an artist of the dealyou surely know better. (But you tried it on anyway)

As a bona fide stalker you should be able to appreciate the aesthetics in play here, Keith. We all know that.

BTW, Your last Kasman post sounded like it was posted by an angry drunk.
You drinkin' again, Keith?
Now that White Russian was the whore's, I know, but you sound like your drinking again. Or overdoing the meds at least for fucking sure.

SSRI's - heavy hit once a day? Or do you ramp in 10 mg.'s ?
Just asking.

Anyway Keith, while you're just waiting around in the heat to boil over, got that name for us, yet?
The name of some foreign resident of Thailand more hated and reviled than yourself?

Have a little nap, then.

DK M says:

You are saying that this site began as a hobby. You might still need a hobby after you get re-employed. Just hoping.

Anonymous says:

This Summers character has caused untold damage and has a lot to answer for and I hope he gets what he deserves, but I doubt he will. He's been playing the fool for what, a year now?

All these guys who would love to have a go at him are hot air. I just checked a map and he is closer to Vietnam than he is to Bangkok. What is anyone going to do? Jump on a flight to Nakhon nowhere? The answer of course is nothing. Nada, zilch, zippo, nothing.

If he was in Bangkok it might be a different story but he is in the middle of nowhere.

Which Bangkok blogger is next?

sniffer says:

Keith Summers wrote "You sold your sole to be an internet whore here in Thailand"
Can Mr Keith or anyone else tell me where I can pick up one of these obviously highly-paid fishmongering jobs?

Khunt says:

And then one day almost 2,000 years after one man was nailed to a tree for basically saying how everyone should be nice to each other, Mango Sauce came to an end...

As a relative newcomer to MS I will miss all this human love and kindness.

I have one question though:
Mango sauce is identical in design to Bangkok Girlfriend. Judging by the dates on both sites MS has been running for a few years and is now ending, while BGF is only a few months old. MS has no Google ads. BGF has.

An overlap coincidence?

Chok dtee for the future

and luv to y'all...

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Hi Khunt

It's no coincidence. Tanai Kwai is a good friend of Mango Sauce.

Regards
David

Chris says:

What in the fuuk is going on here?

I am a bit green when it comes to this war between, Stickers, KSummers and MS.
First, I thought this as all just a little bit tongue in cheek razzing of each other. Guess, not. I am starting to smell blood...
Q: Is K.S. the Stickman?

Can somebody let me know what started this (online) popularity contest? Don't want to re-hash for others who are in the know, but I was orienting myself regarding possibly shooting for expat life in BKK and stumbled into Stickmans 100,000+ word blog. Thought it was pretty good info besides all the ridiculous spelling mistakes. God iso good. Pffft. Now I am thinking, fuck all that hassle, a 3 week vacation every now and then will do. Besides, I am more of a chill-out-on-some-quiet-haad-on-Koh-Phangan kinda guy. One or two nights on Samui will be enough of the BGs. FMPs are not my thing.

Just received my Learn Thai complete audiopack by D.Smyth. I'm so exited I can hardly contain myself! And yes, Dana, phom rien phaasaa thai, ??????????!
Translate that, you grouch.

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Hi Chris

The story begins here:

http://www.mangosauce.com/internet/
galt_silences_stickman.php

Regards
David

Wombat says:

Kasman

You threatening me again. It didn't get you anywhere last time. Do you dream of taking to me with one of your employers golf clubs? Do you fantasise about it you little worm? The reality of that situation is that it would take quite an effort for the doctor to extract it from someone as anal retentive as you.

Prufrock says:

Chris

David Smyth's Thai: An Essential Grammar is the most comprehensive book that I have seen on the subject for beginners.

Smyth's approach is simple.
If you know what a grammar function is in English Smyth's work will give you a middle Thai equivalent into which you can "plug" you vocab as you acquire it.

A Dutch guy once told me that since there are no cognates (i.e. liberty/ liberte/ libertad etc,) you had to fight for every word in Thai.
Well, in a vivid environment like this it's not exactly a fight but you get the idea.

Another stumbler is that, as in English and any other language, regionalisms and outright dialectical displacement of Central Bkk Thai will tend to confuse you as they confuse Thai learners of English who struggle with our various pronunciations.

For what will be an almost painless transfusion of disposable assets to her family's agricultural budget, one of the mischievous young ladies in the upper right hand corner might care to assist you in these matters.

Regards

Prufrock

Kasman says:

Kasman is stickman? What shit are you smoking here? That has to rank up there with the stupidest shit of all times.

As far as Stickman, I have seen him around Bangkok and he has seen me, however, he has no idea I am Kasman, because contrary to popular belief, it is easy to act like a total dickhead here and be normal in real life

Prurock, sorry dickhead, I was by the Landmark Hotel today measuring the roofline in case you decide to jump, I want to make sure you made a big splat and not simply injure yourself.

If anyone is spinning out of control, it is Prurock, with 3 posts in a row, all a regurgitation of his bullshit.

Prurock, is still talking WE and OUR?

Whats the matter Prurock, cannot fight your own battles?

High tail your fucking cowardly ass up to Summers house and call him out you pussy. AND SORRY, WE DO NOT NEED 3 MORE POSTS why you cannot do this yourself.

The Kasman has fooled everyone one of you silly fuckers on MS.

Guaranteed not to be Keith Summers, because Keith lives up north and I can stand on Sukhumvit Road or anywhere else in Bangkok and tell you what the fuck is going on everyday, which would be impossible for Keith to do since he does not live here in Bangkok.

I can even take photos and send them over to Dave as proof. Dave probably has seen me near his favorite market on Soi 5 at least a few times.

So all you ignorant fuckers here use your heads. Tommorrow one of you peckerwoods call Keith to make sure he his at work or home, and at the same time, I will send in something live from right here in Bangkok.

Dicer had the closest hit on me and Wombat has an idea, but the rest of you fuckers are out in left field thinking this is Keith Summers.

As you can see, I like the word fuckers more than anything, a word I don't think you will find Keith using.

Ok since Mango Squash is falling off the planet, look out for KasmanBangkok.com coming to you soon.

Since I do not need a teaching job, or google adwords or any fucking advertising to keep the site going, you will never have to worry about pulling a runner like MS.

KasmanBangkok will promote topics to create as much contraversy and conflict as possible. We will encourage flaming, name calling, outing identities and all sorts of other wild shit.

Kind of like Jerry Springer does Bangkok.

Sorry no Rock Rat or other stories about furry animals, or Prurock selling Oh Sim to the highest bidder.

With the resources we have, we will hire a couple of Thai photographers to hang around the bars and take photos of farangs them post them on the website, with some foolish stories we concoct. (Read the disclaimer before bitching about your photo showing up on Kasman)

Maybe we can give away 5000 baht per week for photo ID'ing some farang dillrod doing some stupid and embarrassing shit.

All sorts of fun new things and topics and within a month, you will forget all about Mango Squash.

Any of you Canadian Cartoon copy editors want to volunteer with the website editing? Please be sure you only use words a sixth grade would understand.

www.kasmanbangkok.com coming soon. I have succeeded in my quest to get my name recognized and known to the point where I am sure all Mango's readers will flock directly to my new site to see who is first on the whipping post.

Matt says:

Which one of you guys sent Galt a picture of David Gower??? Hahaha. That's a classic. Galt has even gone to some lengths to describe how he figured out David Gower is not David Mangosauce. What a detective!

hentaigaijin says:

please sir david ... can we have some more?

.. *hic*

Prufrock says:

Kasman/Summers

You're starting a website?
Of course you are.
Your oxygen has almost been cut off here.
WE can't wait.
Your site and Summers' site, fighting it out for the x axis on Alexa's ?
Whoopee

I requested a simple name. The name of a foreign resident of Bangkok who is hated more than Keith (Asshole) Summers alias the Kasman.

Just a name, Keith. Not a trip. Not an exposure to stalking. Not a day off from making the kind of money you can only dream of. A name. Give me a name.

You can't. can you. !
Because we all know, is true.
No one is hated by more people here in Thailand than YOU :-)

Aside from your usual infantile and, I might add, entirely predictable "I know you are but what am I?", playground response, you are unable to give us (that"US" REALLY gets you as well obviously) US - You are unable to give US the name of someone in the foreign community who is more hated and loathed than Keith Summers (the self-admitted sex tourist, pedophile and virgin-stalker, blackmailer, dead-beat dad, jail-bird, prescription and non-prescription drug addict and hit & run artist)

You can't even get THAT right, Summers.
Have some more SSRI's. I have a visa run (New York) so I won't be posting for a few days.
I'll have to let you stew.

We're all looking forward to your weekly Mamy Poko Pants effort, BTW (heh heh)

(Nice to see you so close to that roof BTW, but I'd rather see you lose your mind in a public place first. In fact WE're ALL enjoying your SSRI ride. SO, for now, the internet will do just fine.)

kwai mai sabai says:

Oh, I don't know about that. I'm pretty sure Kasman must be Stickman. They even have the same last name.
Because Keith lives up north in Nakhon Nowhere and Kasman knows where the Landmark Hotel is in Bangkok, therefore Kasman cannot be Russell Keith Summers. Even Socrates could not argue against that kind of logic.

thebamboorat says:

Ahhhh shit!! This is sad news.

I have enjoyed reading your particular slant on life in Thailand immensely. Nothing else has been as well written or come close in terms of humour.

As someone said earlier, I hope you'll being making the occasional cameo appearance now and then if time permits.

How can you not when Thailand keeps throwing up stories like the one below that is crying out for the MS touch.

Randy sniffer dogs sacked

June 12, 2007 08:19am

Article from: Reuters

TWO Thai street mutts who became ace sniffer dogs at an airport near the notorious "Golden Triangle" opium-producing region have been fired for urinating on luggage and sexually harassing female passengers.
The pair, Mok and Lai, had been plucked from obscurity under a program initiated by King Bhumibol Adulyadej to turn strays into police dogs, the Bangkok Post said.

Although they won plaudits from police for their work in sniffing out drugs at northern Thailand's Chiang Rai airport, near the border with Laos and Myanmar, so many passengers complained about their behavior they had to be fired.

"He liked to pee on luggage while searching for drugs inside," Mok's former handler, Police Lieutenant Colonel Jakapop Kamhon, said. "He also liked to hold on to women's legs."

"Both were just as good as foreign dogs trained for use in drug missions.

"But they were stray dogs, so their manners were worse than those of foreign breeds," he said.

Tatt2dude says:

Thats some disturbed posting... how about?

www.straightjacketbangkok.com

(own domain withheld for fear of reprisal)

zodia says:

Kasman,

Your not Keith it's fairly obvious. Keith's grammar is all over the place when he's feeling this touchy, Kasman, you write quite well and I actually believe you could pull a site. I'd visit it.

Trouble is though....can you keep all this anger up? I mean will you be as interesting when you chill out?

Trouble is rap sucks when you grew up in Holland Park, and well, a trailer park would be palacial in Bangawhore.

MS worked because it had a cross section of stories, nothing to upset our equilibrium. Since David took a step back the site has continued in comments alone. Without the Keith Summers spat with Stickman I think life would indeed be duller.

Keith isn't such a bad guy tI suspect, though I've never met him. My guess is it could yet have a happy outcome. He can be made to see reason, trust me. David has been patient him well you gotta admit.

As a veteran ex-pat of 26 years (please, either sympathy or respect!) the new blogs have been a good way to reduce expensive evening alcohol consumption, reading all Prufrocks and Kasmans outpouring recently has meant my fridge is almost as full of beer today as it was yesterday. That's a first.

Indulge me. Kasman, you promised us a blog, that's good news. I like your style though I'd also like to see what you write on other things. tell us when it's active.

I used to like Metacafe but the comments were so predictable hateful and dull. Shouting only is effective after much silence and there wasn't any of that, so I removed it.
Here, underneath all these amusing deaththreats I beleive some serious writing talent is hiding.
You have to do something a bit creative to keep sain here if you are mad enough to be here for the long haul.

So, Keith, yeah, everybody has been getting off watching you get slagged off, but some good has come of it.You started writing, that's cool. Forgive me Stickmam, look at it this way....Your an English teacher, your site it...ass'licking monumental, and you have inspired all this raw writing talent too... now you didn't expect that did you? I'd guess your the kind of guy that would like that kind of idea.

Keith, come back here!!!you're really not such a bad guy....it's mostly just a bit of fun. Maybe if you concentrated on the quality of your blog, people will actually re-visit when this had died down, for other reasons that seeing you mouth off at Stickman. You're not really a contender for 'Maddest in Thailand'just you got off on the wrong foot with Stickman, and... well, he has a lot of loyalty.

Blogs are an probably an emerging artform. You can't be a copy and there are some pretty hot blos around. Starting a new one takes a bit of confidence and without the obvious porn links, is your life really that interesting that people will take an hour of their day to check out you life??

Rap thrive on anger, emotion. Planning to create a blog wishing harm on others, well, you will be hated and friendless and fall down hole somewhere. You'll quickly get bored with it and go off and do something else.

The cns are watching the blogs. David felt a twinge the other day. Porn is on hold guys for the moment.

Also, the girls don't like angry guys, they like funny guys. My Thai wife (of 12 years... futher sympathy or respect please!) fancies goodlooking falang guys with messy hair, slim belly and a few thousand chestfreckles and...a great, calm charming personality, serious sometimes, but wants to have smiles and jokes. What can I do? That's not me!

So, (excuse me getting off the subject of the rat but there are no new stories.... so what the hell...

Keith... can we have a bit of an amnesty? Keith, stop asking to speak to ex-Mrs Stick. Write more about your crazy life and how you are finding your way here... cos you have found your way here, but you're loosing it. You could be happier at the moment, right?? Perhaps you'd be better of putting the energy your wasting focusing on Stickman into your business and for god's sake, get a bloody girlfriend. You gotta stop paying for sex at some point and find a soul mate.

Kasman, Prufrock, liked what you write,get on with the blog. Careful with CNS so don't know how you'll get the crazy sex stuff past the censors for long but you'll find a way.

My Thai neighbour tried to shoot me the other week over something I was building at the back of my house here in BKK. It had been building up for months and I'd taken every complaint on board and caved in. But, the other day I lost it. I was tired, had building realated stress and invited him to the street to have the oppotunity to kick the shit out of him. I waited a while in front of his gate and eventually we went at it. No way was he going to win and suddenly pulled this gun out of his trouses and trembling aimed at my head. I stuck my face to the barrel and taunted him to do it, didn't give a shit, I'd so much adrenalin pumping. His wife pulled at his arm and the shot just missed. A few moments later I couldnt believe all this emotion suddenly and grabbed him by the shoulders and hugged him. We became really good friends after that, and I even payed to have some building work done on his house for the hell of it.

You can see what I'm getting at. You can't keep all this shit up forever, a few more days and then it will get boring. It's better to stop before some head damage is done to Keith.

Keith, drop all this honesty bullshit, you're a businessman now, let things slide a bit side to side while walking down the middle. I know it's not easy and your trying. maybe you regret a few things in your life and you're trying to put it behind you. You don't want to start something like your blog and look a prick later on when you've run out of ideas and changed your style or just the novelty of writing a blog has worn off, or want to prove yourself to Paul.

well, some of us have less exciting things to do than you lot, or then again, maybe that's not true, but you'll never know.

Zodia

Alex Christofferson says:

Sad to see MS go. Hope it is temporary. With the apparent forthcoming demise of www.thepanamapages.com, there seems to be a disturbing trend for independent expat/bloggers in tropical paradises to fold and move on.

I have been reading regularly for the last few years - not to get factual news, but for David's unique slant. He would make a blog about Tuscaloosa or Bournemouth just as interesting.

Anyway, the rise and fall of MS is, if nothing else, a lesson in human folly and destructiveness: if you build it, they will tear it down.

Hoping the wheel of karma turns.

Anonymous says:

Dana wrote...

"temporarily I could not tell the difference between his balls and the other boys' balls."

In other words, a typical evening out for Dana.

RH says:

Keith "Kasman" Summers wrote:

"Ask your arrogant self if you are now still the king in your own mind?"

Enlighten us. Please provide one arricle on MS, even one sentece, where the author comes across as arrogant.

YOU, however, come across as a childish, jealous, wanna-be, little prick...and I can scroll up and find many quotes of yours to back that up.

Read through these comments above. David has a loyal readership that shows genuine affection for his wit and writing ability. Dont' be jealous. Its a gift that neither you, nor I, possess. Deal with it.

Wombat says:

Zodiac

What planet have you been on? Summers reasonable? An interesting life? I really can't wait for his next article on how to seduce a prostitute. A must read for any FOB. From a man who probably needed someone to put it in for him the first time he visited Thailand.

On a lighter note I am planning some renovations to my home. Please forward me your address so I can take a shot at you in order that you will be happy to contribute financially to the renovations.

Nasty Nick says:

David keep the spirit.

And as for summers some classic lines.

The water container on my roof doubles for a hot tub.

The picture was taken before i bulked up.

I gave her 1500 baht for the whole night.

Classic.

Kasman says:

RH

I come across exactly the way I want to come across. To create chaos, contraversy, hate, and discontent.

Everything else in life, I can find a different source for.

You can jump of the Mango Squash backslapping band wagon all you want and they write some sad posts about how your life will be fucked and unforfilled because Mango Squash is going under, but not me.

There are 1000 of you David MS worshipping backslappers and what we need is some more Keith Summers, to keep all you fuckers in line.

Mango would be nothing either with the Stickman/Keith feud.

As I said before, who is their fucking right mind wants to read about a Rock Rat? Is this the discovery channel?

I would take Stickman and Summers, over any of you faggots, you meaning you and Prurock and any of his 100 of other aliases we see springing up everytime he is under attack.

Kasman says:

Prurock,

You are more hated than Summers, the most hated asshole in Thailand.

You comment "Not a day off from making the kind of money you can only dream of"

Since when do company employees that fetch coffee for a Thai boss make that much money?

No one likes you.

So please get busy and create 100 new user names that can all post that they are your best buddy.

Kasman says:

Zodia

I would read you website for sure if you had one, as you seen to have both wisdom and common sense.

Grunt says:

"Getting stalked by weird men was a bit alarming at first but they all gave themselves away by adopting the same approach - posing as potential advertisers - and delegating my ad sales to an agency solved the problem." - Sir David the Clueless

Oddly enough, I (repeatedly) tried to warn you that princess dicer the sycophant extraordinaire was sizing you up.

Not only did you ignore the heads up, you basically turned the comments section over to the peanut gallery.

Now that any posters that would have stood by you are long gone, here is a little taste of whats in store for you Dave old boy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8rnBVduKKI

MrClis says:

Just a few words to say thank you for the laughs, the insight and the beautiful writing.
You have a real gift.

Zodia says:

Wombat,

I haven't re-read what I wrote about KS but shit..did I really go as far as saying "reasonable" or "interesting life"? .....

Also, I admit, I'm never too sure which planet I'm on at any given moment. I put this down to my failing with Leo mainly, and when I'm totally unsure I know it's worked.

I for one, checked out K.S's site when all this blew up here on MS and I guess many others did too.

It seems, weirdly enough, the more we take the piss, the more his site gets hits. He doesn't realise it's the piss taking issue I suspect, but he's getting well known now, mainly for being the "Maddest ("and most discussed" I'll add) person in Thailand", We all know 'Asian Signals' now... so we've doing him a bloody favour.

Sure enough, and I agree with you, his site isn't to everyone's taste, but, he hasn't been the first to alite on these tantalizing tropical Thai shores in search of pleasure with econommicly challenged asthetically gifted honey coloured beauties, and, well, Pattaya has been know, on occassion, to play host to such scenes of suduction you say he describes.

So, for him to write about them seems actually, to me at any rate,an open an honest thing to do. If he doesn't do it very well, that's just asthetics and he may improve in time,but my guess is he'll probably just give up.(but I hope actually he doesn't)

I don't think Keith's urge to write about his life is a bad thing... Even if it all started with his hatred of Stickman. Maybe it was a jelousy thing, an inferiority complex, who fucking knows, (I find it hard to believe it was just the bar reveiw thing but that's the story so far and an example of his tendency toward madness)

But at least he's having a go. He doesn't have to be a professional writer to have a blog, and we don't have to like what he says or agree with what he does,( after all, we're all soooo perfect aren't we...) but it's 'his' way of getting it out, facing up to who he he is, and perhaps and hopefully waking up.

And, if he looks to us all a total wanking pratt in the process well that's the price he pays for having a blog and coming out and being himself. Maybe he'll never live in down, but I won't be the first to throw stones. I'll reserve judgemnt that there's still some good in him somewhere, although it may be dormant deeply burried in icy hard earth where little rain falls.

(can I have some free lights now Keith?)

Sorry Wombat,you don't qualify for a burrow improvement grant just yet, but you can have a free HUGGGGG... there you go...feel better?

zodia says:

Am I the only one that that senses David hasn't finished with Mango quite yet?

Recently,there's been much reflection from him and all those involved with visible Thai based sites but I don't think (Grunt) it was ever destined to be eaten by the hairy green eyed monster.

Being optimistic, with a new government in the new year, the atmosphere has to improve, and in a more relaxed climate there may be a way he'll get up in the night and get back to the drawing board.

I'll wager a fridge full of beer....MY PEN (NO) LIE!

Eniac says:

David

I'm very sorry to see you go. I don't know if 'The Galt' played any part in your downfall but if his blatantly vindictive actions have in any way damaged your business or reputation then you have solid grounds to claim substantial damages through the Thai courts. He may also have breached the criminal law and if you're interested in following this up offline I can put you in touch with a Thai lawyer who has experience in this area.

zodia says:

Wombat

My wife said if you are as cuddly as a real wombat, she'll cuddle you herself.

If you could see her, you wouldn't want her to let go.

Like a wombat, she has also been know to share her burrow with visitors.

William Mahanakorn says:

David,

There are too many factors that make blogging about Thailand less fun than it used to be...censorship, Thai politics, mentally-ill bloggers who sell electronic parts for motorcycles, and mentally-ill computer engineers who sell a bill of goods to advertisers, then turn around and create retarded algorithms for those who are first seduced by the idea of advertising revenue, and who soon fall into despair as ads like "Genocide Ringtones" appear over and over and over, like a demented nightmare. You block some...they appear again: "Khmer Rouge Bedspreads".

Well, for me, I don't have to rely on Ad Sense revenue, in part because I am building a dildo factory in rural Thailand and repatriating the proceeds by establishing a lending library and a hospital for injured animals with a center that documents the rare Lao Rice Rat for future conservation programs. I will display all of this on my blog soon, in the hopes that it compensates for some of my early, less successful business ventures in Thailand. My "Ride a Long-Necked Tribal Woman Safari Package" wasn't so popular with the TAT, although it was fun while it lasted. My apologies to the Akkha tribe for some of the misunderstandings.

Also, I will soon open an informational kiosk for farangs who are looking to flee Thailand without having to pay exorbitant visa costs and who can keep the brown farm girls they soooo can't wait to bring home to mother and to suburban USA to live in cramped apartments behind convenience stores and live the American dream together, in love and harmony.

Well...first things, first,....a good name for my line of dildoes....Hopefully your readers can provide some suggestions. I'm thinking "Summer Lovin'". But again, I'm in the very preliminary design stages, and am hoping for some angel investors who believe I'm a credible businessman. Khun Suphan...I will, repeat, will pay you back for the jeep!

Anyway, I will miss you. Please keep Mangosauce as a hobby at the very least. I have been needling Google and Co. on my blog at (inserting shameless dildo...I mean plug):

www.thaipeeps.blogspot.com

The most recent clip sums up the current situation quite well I think.

Keep writing old man.

Don't let the elephant sweep you of its back.

William Mahanakorn

Grunt says:

"Am I the only one that that senses David hasn't finished with Mango quite yet?" - zodia aka princess dicer

Well, seeing how your "canned debate" (faus 'argument' between two sycophants, subject irrelevant, designed to drown the comments section in a sea of offal) has reduced this site to the number 7 slot in the google ranking, Id think otherwise.

Close the doors, David. You are defeated.

rastaman says:

Keith summers is the kind of kerazzzy guy that I just lurve !!! I mean he's wow, so now, so happening, so anarchic. He just kicked the shit out the thai expat internet establishment. Ain't his fault google bumped yer. Mans been harrassed but he's still walkin'

Mr Thaksin, bangkokchat.org says:

wonkers all wonkers.

what a right bunch of wonkers here lately.
No wonder old Davvy has had enough.

Where's Dicer when you need him.

Thaxo.

Pyrrha says:

Play together nicely now, boys, or there'll be no honey for tea.

Wes says:

Yes, indeed, Prufrock now hides himself in the bowels of the Landmark as the forces which will out him edge ever closer. Look over your shoulder a bit more. With this site down, you'll have lots of time.

Zodia says:

Grunt,

Don't post if you're that drunk and recently your postings have been the most mundain of mundain.

Kasman, Wombat and Prufrock are interesting, you are however a giant yawn, pretentious and patronizing.

Kieth is a bit silly, you're just boring.

get a voice!

afghansitan says:

kieth summers is not crazy. An expat school teacher who spent days out his precious life developing a website about a country he lives in, who talks down about the native hosts of that country, and who criticizes people who spend hours contributing to his site, last but not least talks from a moral high chair as if he is a saint is crazy

Farang Rak Thai says:

Its just a bloody shame. The once great Mangosauce felled by Kieth Summers, a guy who had to get laid through a sex tour. I hope he is satisfied by just taking your site down, and hope he doesnt go through with the full on outing of you Dave. Its seems that the internet has just turned into a jungle out there.

--------------------

Hi Farang Rak Thai

You're giving Keith too much credit.

Regards
David

Zodia says:

Afghanistan,

Hi keithy...oh it's just got to be...who else would be sober enough to write about you at 11:01 pm???

Wombat

(It seems our uninvited guest and instant folk hero Kiethy is still interested in what we think of him...though he recently denied it to me)

Is he feeling alone in a crowd making mistakes accidentally on purpose with American English to hide his identity?

Here in the land of forced smiles, with authoritarian anarchy using weapons of peace to gather government intelligence to build a totalitarian democracy with a xenophobic foreign secretary, the insane logic of taking a working vacation here,the unspoken suggestion here is that I should work on my snow-white tan and stop being a social hermit behind my screen, my sure guess is shouting in a whisper, my silent yell is that 'safe sex' is sadly a oxymoron too, like 'wise Wombat' (JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Zodia says:

Grunt,

P.S.

If MS is as dead as you say it, why, your last comment was sent a week after David's adieu, at 6.19 am, before you even had time to brush your teeth, and your last one on the same day, at 10.42 p.m. just before you popped the aforementioned into the glass for the night.

Seems like the peanut gallery that irks you so was the first and last thing you thought about yesterday...one week on...

why are you still here when there's nothing else but peanuts and tumbleweed passing through...it's a mystery!

David says:

Wise words, Zodia. It's pretty obvious that the fat lady has sung. Would the last person out please switch off the lights.